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Tbetta’s Bullets: Round 14

Welcome to another edition of the Bullets, brought to you with a slightly different feel this week; it’s less about rookies from now on, and more about maximising your points with the big dogs of the fantasy world.


  • Tale of the Tape

Welcome to another edition of the Bullets, brought to you with a slightly different feel this week; it’s less about rookies from now on, and more about maximising your points with the big dogs of the fantasy world.

But firstly, some retrospection. There was a huge range of scoring this week (1850 through to 2200 in quality leagues), usually indicative of unavoidable carnage or some kind of late withdrawal -and wouldn’t you know it, it was the backline once again that had our boats sinking or sailing.

Birchall (knee) was the big culprit leading in to Round 14, while Vlastuin’s late withdrawal (shin) left coaches shell-shocked post-lockout without the usual assistance from Thurlow (emergency) and Goodes (wrist) off the bench.

Donuts were eaten, loopholes were thwarted and Captains were scorned. How did you squad fare?

  • Polling and Trolling

Polling R14

3. Ryan Griffen (136)

The man I affectionately think of as Cyclops (there is something seriously going on there in the peepers region…) has been in ripping form lately, averaging 128 DT in his last three games – ranked first in the League. He also boasts the fourth-highest average in the competition, just a lazy 111.6 points per game. I’ve always been wary of Griffen because of his propensity to get tagged; he’s much more a game-winning type (like Ablett, Pendlebury, Dangerfield) that attracts the tags rather than a pure stat-slut like Priddis, Boyd or Swan, who usually avoid the run-with roles. With Boyd out, could Griffen be the answer to the midfield crisis?

2. Dean Terlich (112)

We’ve had a trio of reasonably reliable D6’s over the past month or so of footy; Terlich, Goodes and Vlastuin. In Round 14, only Terlich of those three took the field, belting out his third ton of the season under interim coach Neil Craig’s potent altered playing style. He was the difference for a lot of coaches with more backline pain this week; if I had him, I’d be holding him at D7 (in a complete backline) for the foreseeable future.

1. Jobe Watson (122)

Class. Definiton: Copping crap from all angles, and with all eyes on you on the big stage, you carve out a Brownlow vote-worthy performance at a hostile arena. No one modern player has answered his critics more over his career; once pegged as a chunky, one-paced midfielder with shoddy disposal, he’s emerged as a powerful, composed and highly efficient possession machine. Oh, and he scores pretty well in fantasy too.

Trolling R14

3. Vlastuin (LW) ft. B. Goodes (wrist)

What I don’t understand is why Vlastuin was named on the field (Tigers had a 7-man interchange due to a Sunday match) at Thursday Teams if he was always in doubt with shin soreness? The small rationalisation that “he’ll definitely play now, named on the field” may have lulled a few coaches into a false sense of security, where they possibly may have made moves to cover a possible Vlastuin late withdrawal had they known his woes. That left many straight-jacketed coaches with a donut on Sunday afternoon, particularly with popular coverage options in Goodes and Thurlow on the sidelines also.

2. Captain Expectation

All the numbers pointed to a massacre at the hands of three of the biggest fantasy assassins this week; the deadly Ablett against his bunny team in the Crows, the relentless Swan in hot form and the brutal Boyd against a timid Demons outfit. I honestly expected and average of 135 from these guys this week. We got a slither over 90. I guess the lesson here is that we need to take historical data with a little grain of salt in the future.

1. Ryan Crowley

If there’s one thing that kills DT scoring more than the finality of a substitute vest, its taggers. I hate them. Unfortunately, they’re so bloody effective that there will always be a place for them in the game as long as superstars like Ablett, Pendlebury and Crowley’s target this week, Selwood (38), exist. Ryan Crowley is one of the best in the worst business in town, kind of like being The Rock at the peak of the WWE. Keep an eye on possible upcoming Crowley targets: Montagna (R15), Cotchin (r17) and Dangerfield (R18).


  • Team in Focus: destROY

Over the next couple of weeks, we’ll take a quick look at a few DT sides than can teach us a thing or two about how to play the evolving game that is Dream Team in 2013. First up is one squad that has been in Black Caviar-like form, sprinting around the outside lane while other sides have been cracking the whip over the MBRs, but seemingly going nowhere.

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destROY (see the squad here) has surged in from an overall ranking of almost 14,000 pre-byes (and well outside the top 30,000 earlier in the year) to the 2,130 he’s currently sitting – a massive effort! How did he turn it around, using the same amount of trades as the rest of us mere mortals?

1. Teach Your Boys a Lesson

Got an under-performing Premo? Let’s be honest, we all do. Burgoyne was brought into destROY as a Premium, but failed to fire in recent rounds, notching 44 and 55 leading into Round 14. Now, the accepted protocol is “always back the Premium in”, but Roy used the oldest trick in the book and dropped old Shaun back to the bench, playing new boy Terlich ahead of him – that unconventional wisedom boosted his score by a massive 72 points this week!

Tbetta Than You members in Rocky and Hanley… you’ve been warned.

2. When It Hits the Fan, Bring In the Old Man

destROY was in a heap of early trouble with new kids on the block, the statistical fiends in Beams and Greene, who derailed his start to the year. As we all know, Beams suffered the world’s longest thigh injury (was it amputated or something? Honestly), while Greene struggled with a serious case of the 2nd-year blues.

Beams’ replacement was the evergreen O’Keefe, while Boyd was turned to in the midst of MBR pain. Both are at least 30 years old, both have been reliable options in year’s gone past and both players feature in the top six players competition-wide for DT points score in their last 5 games. When things get tough, you turn to the guys who have got the job done in the past.

With that in mind, should we be taking a serious look at Enright to right the ship in defence?

3. Take A Risk, Grow A Pair

One of my favourite traits of Roy is that he’s big on the break-out guys. He successfully jumped on Suckling and Shiels in their break-out seasons in 2011, and he’s had a ‘no stone unturned’ approach to 2013 once again.

Ibbotson, Ellis and Griffen were all risky trade-in propositions at the time, but they’ve all come up trumps so far. Where my DT lizard brain was screaming “AVOID!”, Roy’s was crunching the numbers and taking calculated risks.

So there’s a few lessons we can learn from the big fella this week. Is there a DT side that you want reviewed next week? Let us know in the comments!


  • Fixture Fixated

As promised last week, Fixture Trading analysis will slower become more in-depth and critical as we head into finals with all these trades, yet also with ‘complete’ sides with no obvious improvements to be made. This week, I’ve combined the Form Ticker (correct as of pre-R15, which includes all the data of DT points for and against, plus a focus on Tons conceded) with the Fixture Study (R15 Update) (again, correct as of pre-R15, including a focus on upgradability and fruitful fixture sprees) to somehow qualify just how ‘soft’ a club’s upcoming draws are.

The excel files are reasonably self-explanatory and contain more useful data than I’ll be able to highlight here, so I recommending perusing them if you’re interested in a little more detail.

The Soft Six

Sorting clubs by DT points attained versus the amount they allow gives us the DT Points Differential (in %). Ranking the data this way shows that we have a clear ‘Soft Six’ sides, and these teams are reliably close to the bottom 6 placed sides in almost every measure of fantasy prowess so far this season.

Differential (%-wise) Chart - simply click to enlarge.

Differential (%-wise) Chart – simply click to enlarge.

Melbourne, GWS, Gold Coast, Brisbane, St. Kilda and the Bulldogs are the only sides that allow more points than they earn, which is skewed by the two-tier nature of the competition. Obviously, these are the teams we all want our players to come up against, so keep an eye on their opponents in the latter half of 2013.

FT Ag vs Tons compPoints Against versus Tons

Often you’ll hear the rationale that while some teams (such as the Soft Six) leak points, it’s the mid-range players that see the boost in scoring, and not the ‘Premium’ players. This is an interesting theory, and hard to prove or disprove.

I’ve looked at which teams give up the most 100+ scores, and it’s no surprise that there is a strong relationship between Points conceded and Tons conceded. There are however, a couple of discontinuities that buck the trend:

As you can see, both Port and Fremantle are middle-of-the-range in terms of Points conceded, but significantly stingier when it comes to allowing 100+ scores. I have my theories; Port’s ‘stinginess’ is likely a by-product of their soft fixture to date (easiest fixture to date based on DT figures), whereas Fremantle’s looks like being Ross Lyon-influenced, as Fremantle’s game plan involves continually strangling the opposition of easy possessions.

On the flip side, Collingwood and North Melbourne are in the Top 8 in terms of Points Against, but ranked significantly lower in terms of Tons conceded. Again, I have my theories; North’s lack of a shut-down option in the midfield might account for the big scores they allow, while Collingwood’s midfield has traditionally gone head-to-head, allowing the opposition’s prime movers to score well ever if their side doesn’t necessarily win.

FT Next 4Fixture Quality

Basically, we want to know which teams have a soft run coming up, so we can load up on Premiums from those teams. To do that, I’ve ranked each team on a scale based on how many points they concede to the opposition on average (check out the excel file for an exact formula), then attributed these values to their upcoming opponents.

For any trade you’re considering this week, it’s probably best to look at their ‘Next 4’ fixture quality for instant reward:

As you can see, teams like Sydney, Essendon, Geelong and Collingwood have the softer upcoming runs (based on the amount of points their opposition usually concedes). Players like Kieren Jack and Ryan O’Keefe might be worth a hard look (Giants and Melbourne in next two), as well as Brent Stanton (Bulldogs and Giants in R16 & R17); but definitely Stevie J for the run of Melbourne, Adelaide and St. Kilda once his suspension ends.

Port Powerful

I owe Port Adelaide an apology based on last week’s purely intuitive assessment they contributed to Essendon’s ‘cakewalk’ run – that simply isn’t the case. Not only have they knocked out wins against Sydney and Collingwood in the past fortnight (both at home, however), the numbers suggest they are restrictive fantasy opponents regardless. They’ve only conceded 1700+ once (Melbourne and GWS have 7 times), second only to Essendon and North in that respect. They also concede just 2.7 tons per match, fourth in the competition.

Port are no longer an easy proposition, as Swanny learnt in Round 14.

Melbourne Resurgent

Probably the biggest point to take away from this exercise is how different Melbourne scores under Neil Craig.

FT MelbAs you can see, their own scoring has been significantly up and the points conceded considerably less, attributing to what is essentially an extra 11 points per player at the Demons, while conceding 11 points less per player to the opposition. That’s huge. They’re sharing the ball much more than under Neeld, which is great; but more importantly for us, it means it’s spending less time in the opposition’s hands. They conceded 5.45 tons per game before the bye, but only 4 per game since – that might not sound like much, but it is, especially when it comes to Captain decisions – they’ll still leak points, but expect more of a trickle than a trickle than a flood from now on.


  • Operation Get Stevie J / Bridging Trades 

As I alluded to before, Stevie J for his run of Melbourne, Adelaide and St. Kilda and the resulting point spree is an absolute must – if you’re holding the slippery midfielder in your side, then you’re set. If you don’t (like me), it becomes a case of Operation Stevie J. Luckily, we still have a week to plan our attack…

Boyd to Stevie

If you have other things that need doing this week (Duffield injury, upgrading D6 or R2, etc), then holding Boyd one week with a view to go sideways to Stevie J next week isn’t the worst idea. As he’s proven so far this year, Stevie J is easily a Top 6 Forward, and getting him is an absolute must – a straight swap from Boyd would save you from any money-related woes as it’s a Lindsay Thomas headbutt away from a straight swap.

You could re-establish a Mid/Fwd DPP link off the bench (proving quite handy with all these high-profile injuries), or you could simply leave Stevie J in the guts where he can hold his own in the Top 8 Mids. Obviously, the downside here is that you’re holding a $540k points machine on your bench this week.


This is the most common way to skin the cat, and it’s worked for us pretty well so far. Unfortunately, one disadvantage of this tactic is that you have to make a downgrade to get the transaction through;  I’m not sure how many of the 1st gamers from Round 14 (Ceglar, Boston, Tunbridge, Richards, Michie, Arnot and Sheridan) will be worth jumping on next week. Of course, downgrading your R4 (Blicavs, Daw or Rowe) to an $89k rookie isn’t out of the question as it’s unlikely you’ll need that 4th ruckman post-byes.

As I said, this is the way we’ve done things in the past. It does require some careful planning to make sure you have enough capital to clear the $541k that you’ll need to welcome in Johnson… but with 2 trades per week, is there another viable option on the table?

Bridging Trades

This brings me back to bridging trading, a popular tactic earlier in the season when cash was king. The Westhoff and Ellis (and to a lesser extent, Mullet) were successful in the way they allowed us to bank points while generating cash, whereas rookies often do the latter exclusively… Realistically, these guys won’t make enough in one week to these types of trades worthwhile for most coaches, but they’re certainly worth looking at for the medium term, post Stevie J.

Yes... Got a game.

Yes… Got a game.

There are a few options that have caught my eye. Firstly, in a West Coast midfield without Selwood (at least three more out) and Shuey (1-2 more), Dalziell and Hutchings are worth a cheeky short-term look. Dalziell costs just $256k with a breakeven of -23, coming off a team-high 113 DT points last Thursday. Likewise, Hutchings will set you back just $249k (-13BE) and has posted scores of 84, 97, 83 and 91 so far this year – he’s even someone you could plug in at M8, a la Tom Mitchell, if you really needed it. This pair should shoot up around $40k (even with modest projections) just this week alone, and close to $100k over three solid weeks; this makes them slow-burn cash cow options looking past the immediacy of Stevie J.

Can I play yet?

Can I play yet?

And finally, there’s Kurt Tippet. A BE of 89 at $373k sounds very ‘Blurgh’,  but when you consider that he’s playing Melbourne (118 last season) and GWS (90) in his next two whilst getting silver service from a reigning Premiership midfield… I mean, he looked excellent with 95 and some very clean hands last week in torrential rain – imagine what he could do with a dry footy? I’m liking him as an F7/bridging option, and possibly someone who could replace Rockliff on the field while he and Vossy sort their beef out…

What do you think? How are you getting Stevie J into your side? Will you consider any of Dalzeill, Hutchings or Tippett this week? As usual, let us know in the comments below!


  • 100 words on: Round 15 issues

# Heppell, Goddard, Gibbs then Daylight

That’s what our Top 6 Defender list looks like at the moment… Who will fill those last 3 slots over the run home? Ibbotson ($465k, 102BE) and his Fremantle teammates have a promising run home, while Enright ($441k, 133BE) has been under the radar with his consistent output lately, going at 92 per game in his last five starts. Even Waters ($414k, 89BE) has been showing great signs with 90 and 88 in his two weeks back from injury.

With most coaches scrambling for a D6 with the Vlastuin/Goodes issues, this will be a huge focus at the trade table for R15.

# Rookie Bonanza

After a lean fortnight with rookie in terms of quantity, there’s been an explosion of fresh meat available at the local market. Mitch Clisby ($89,300 DEF, -84 BE) is the leading option and rightly so, but Joe Daniher ($143,200 FWD, -52BE), Brad McKenzie ($108,500 MID, -66BE) and Lachie Hunter ($102,700 MID, -39) are all bubble options that deserve a look when contemplating cash-making targets this week.

# Blitz over?

With Awesome Dawson (Simpson) making a splash in his return to the Geelong ruck stocks, is that game-over for Blicavs fantasy-wise? His run of 80+ scores ended last week (58), coinciding with less time in the guts and attaining his peak price of $324k – All the signs point to moving him on this week if you haven’t already. Nicholls is a solid R3 for the foreseeable future, and Blicavs –> Naismith nets you a massive $235k to use elsewhere.

# Underperformers

What do we do with guys like Tom Rockliff and Shaun Burgoyne? Rocky has been sent forward and hasn’t posted a 90+ score since West Coast in Round 7, while Burgoyne’s three scores under 60 on the trot is just unacceptable. If you can relocate Burgoyne to D7 and upgrade around him (as he’s only worth $309k now!) then I’d look at that, while Rockliff might get one more week to show something before Stevie J takes over in the forward line and Rocky slides to F7 if he continues his current form.

# Double D’s?

With so many rookies on the bubble, should we be thinking about double-downgrading?

The short answer is no, and the long answer is “Hell no”. It’s all about points on your field at this point in the year, so fielding the best possible starting 22 should be your only concern at the moment. As I suggested earlier, downgrading at R4 in a lean rookie week is something you can do to bridge the cash gap; there’s no need to set your team back this week to grab a couple of rookies.

# Boyd has a Broken Face

Sorry guys, I wrecked him for everyone. Of course, after I say Boyd’s off my Watchlist for 2013 then proceed to trade him in a month later, karma was always going to curb-stomp that kind of contradiction. My bad.

Leading replacements at this stage include his teammate Griffen, as well as the consistent Kieren Jack (great run in his next two, remember) and the unique Montagna… Even the out-of-form Stanton at $475k with his upcoming run will coming into calculations.

# Barlow ‘Likely’

Yep, the Injury List says ‘Test’, but the club says ‘Highly Likely” in the piece of PR bliss. Well done to those who held him… If you believe anything a club with Ross Lyon at the helm says!

Who are you looking at to replace Boyd? Will you be acquiring Clisby, or looking at another rookie ahead of him? Discuss in the comments below, or tweet me at @Tbetta9. Good luck!


footyrhinoPS. Make sure you check out the FootyRhino Podcast featuring yours truly here, or go straight to the MP3 download here – All about what to do with Boyd and the Unique All-Stars for 2013!



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    July 2, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Hello great read !! Would Boyd > Barlow be a good trade or are there better options?

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      July 2, 2013 at 10:33 pm

      Jeez… A bit risky with the question marks over Barlow still…

      I’d probably give Barlow a week or two to make sure that the jaw surgery hasn’t affected his form if I didn’t already have Barlow sitting patiently on my bench.

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        July 3, 2013 at 12:32 am

        Agree; 1, with the risky bit, you’d be paying top or near top dollar for barlow, and he can only go down in price by not scoring as well as a result of the jaw. Sure he’s a keeper when he gets brought in, but if there’s a high chance you can get him later at a cheaper price then why not. 2, Barlow’s in great form – but only technically speaking: that form has been interupted by a week off, as well as any trauma from having his face mangled.

        For a similar price, there are a host of other mids in similar form to Barlow (and Boyd before he did his jaw): grif, Pendles, Dangerfield, ROK, even Cornes now that port are back in form.

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    July 2, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    “1. Teach Your Boys a Lesson” – already doing this, and it has worked twice as well on the weekend, when i made hanley my Emergency, for a playing Vlastuin.

    Glad to see Hanley didn’t need any more time in the dog house, busting out his best score for me since I bought him.

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      July 2, 2013 at 10:35 pm

      Hahaha Vlastuin OUT probably a good thing for your side then… Didn’t actually see the Brisbane game on the weekend, so not sure what to make of Hanley’s total.

      He’s still on my shit list until I actually see him do something I’ve decided.

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        July 3, 2013 at 12:35 am

        Yep indeed. I’m hoping both Hanley and Rockcliff lift against GWS this weekend. Incidently, both have had thier DT scores affected by Vossy’s retarded coaching.

        If Rockliff gets a big one, i’m hoping to recoup a bit of lost money before selling him off. Not even a nice 150 is enough, simply because I can’t trust where Voss is going to play him in the weeks after this.

        • Stuart


          July 3, 2013 at 6:30 pm

          They play GC not GWS.

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    July 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    Hey TBETTA thoughts on the trades macaffer-stokes and VLastuin to which one hibberd or waters? Torn between the two

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      July 2, 2013 at 10:44 pm

      Hard call! Hibberd has the runs on the board all season, but has dropped off lately – I think the opposition is starting to pay him more respect. As for Waters… He looked terrible on the weekend, so I can’t morally recommend anyone grab him, yet he still belted out an 88.

      Probably Hibberd, but I’d be looking at Ibbotson/Enright ahead of the pair I think.

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        July 2, 2013 at 11:12 pm

        yes interesting that one think Waters/Hibbered will score bout the same but worried about having 3 Ess players in my defence while with ibbo (gonna wait a couple more incase he does a ellis two 70s)
        Enright i think will average about same as Hibbered/Waters but gonna stay away due to Cats player management.

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    P Mackey

    July 2, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Awesome work Tbetta,

    I still have Birch and I think him to Clisby will giv me plently to play with. Boyd also in my team needs to go. Unsure of who to.

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      July 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm

      Interesting – Boyd and Birchall out means you don’t have to grab Clisby, but should you still do it? Don’t think any of these current rookies are a must.

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    July 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    I would Post this in the ‘my team’ section but mine not showing even though its says ive posted it :/ thought i’d post on here.. Great read Tbetta!! Always look forward to your article at the start of the week.

    DEF: Goddard, Heppell, Duffield, Gibbs, Vlastuin, Clisby (J.Webster, J.Thurlow)

    MIDS: G.Ablett, D.Swan, M.Barlow, T.Cotchin, N.Fyfe, P.Dangerfield, K.Jack, T.Mitchell (N.Kommer, N.Hrovat)

    RUCKS: D.Cox, M.Blicavs (T.Nicholls, D.Currie)

    FWDS: J.Kennedy, J.Bartel, Martin, L.Franklin, Rockliff, B.Staker (S.Johnoson, S.Rowe)

    $420,600 in the bank

    Trade Options:

    Vlastuin to Ibo

    Staker to Daniher OR use the Staker DPP and trade Thurlow or Webster to Daniher..

    Thoughts on my team overall? Trade thoughts and suggestions??

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      July 3, 2013 at 12:46 am

      My thoughts:

      Improvement obviously can be be made in the backs – you already have Clisby in youre playing mob, but most wouldn’t consider him a starter. Question marks over Richmond’s naming of Vlastuin this weekend (recall Ellis from 6 weeks back…). Webster/Thurlow don’t seem to offer the safest cover at the moment. A large portion of that 420 K should go toward improving the backs over 2 of the next 3 weeks.

      Mids: sell Kommer, get in a downgrade rookie on the bubble, to keep up cash to improve backs, rucks and forwards (not sure if 420K is enough)

      Rucks: you need a stronger 2nd ruck, but not as high priority. Play Nicholls, and sell Blicavs within 1-3 weeks to free up cash.

      Forwards: Staker & Rowe are weak coverage, while Franklin and Rockliff are out of form. Downgrading the first two to at least 1 playing rookie (e.g, Daniher) will add to the coffers, to allow future upgrading of Rockliff and Franklin, and maybe Kennedy once he reverts back to 80s and 90s

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    July 2, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Great article Tbetta.

    Personally I held onto Stevie J for his suspension to make some other handy trades like Vlastuin to Gibbs (fist pump!)

    This week Thurlow to Clisby and cutting my losses with Cotchin and turning him into Gary Ablett (finally!).

    Once Stevie J is back I will only have Macaffer & Terlich on field, and a few underperforming premos such as Hanley, Rockliff & Heater.
    I picked up Craig Bird a few weeks ago who has been brilliant. He should be easily upgraded to Stokes or Bartel in two weeks.

    Next week I’ll be considering some of your ideas (Rock to Tippet, Blicavs cash grab, etc).

    With Boyd’s broken jaw I now officially forgive you for talking me out of getting him (‘old man calves’) ;)

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      July 2, 2013 at 10:42 pm

      Ablett is a must! Great trade whenever you can make it. And re. Boyd… still can’t believe how this has turned out.

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    July 2, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Great Read Tbetta!

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    Charlie Sheen

    July 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    Nice articble Tbetta! Great POD point on Tippet which could really work out.

    Because of that I now I have a tough one, Scooter>Tippet (via Dwyer) & Caff>Hibberd (via Staker) or any DEF.. And miss Clisby on the bubble

    Or, what I was originally thinking of: Dwyer/Caff>Clisby & Thurlow>Hibberd or any DEF.. And Stuck with Scooter for another week.

    Current team to put some perspective on my thoughts..
    DEF: Goddard, Heppel, Gibbs, Scotland, Ellis, Staker (Thurlow, Pittard)
    MID: Ablett, Swan, Watson, Fyfe, Pendles, Scooter, Priddis, T.Mitchell (Barlow, K.Martin)
    RUC: Cox, Naitanui,(Nicholls, Gawn)
    FWD: Bartel, Martin, Franklin, Roughead, JJK, Macaffer, (Dwyer, Stevie J)


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    July 2, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Already have Steve J and Clisby, so its Boyd out and Pendles in for me. Also Stokes in for Caff

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    July 2, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Love the thought provoking bridging trades!

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      July 2, 2013 at 11:12 pm

      Thanks – probably not for me (although Tippett…), but always nice to take stock of all the options.

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    July 2, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Top stuff Tbetta.

    Prior to the dreaded round 13 I traded O’Meara to Scooter…and Scooter to Boyd last week. How’s that for a hard luck story?!

    Might be time to change my Avatar too :/

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      July 2, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      Yep, not fun – same thing happened last season in the ruck department if I remember correctly!

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    July 2, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    Great read as always Betta!!

    Thoughts on Craig Bird? With goodes out, a great run ahead and a solid 3rd average is he worth a pickup?

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      July 3, 2013 at 3:36 am

      Think he was a good pickup for guys like me who got on him a few weeks ago. Might be a tad reactionary now (bit like guys who were late getting on the Hoff train and got burned). Still a low BE and two easy games, if you want to use him as a stepping stone, but need to be confident you’ll be in a position to get rid of him when he peaks.

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    July 2, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    with $375,000 in my pocket would upgrading vlastuin to ibboston and macaffer to riewoldt be a good idea? a bit hesitant on missing out on clisby, and as i already have stevie j, stokesy, bartel, JJK, franklin, not really sure who else to upgrade to in the forward line.

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      July 3, 2013 at 3:42 am

      If you read the article I’d assume Tbetta would advise the double upgrade to maximise points and just miss out on Clisby.

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      July 3, 2013 at 12:15 pm

      They all have similar BE’s and I have both Vlastuin and Macaffer myself. I think Vlastuin-Clisby and Macaffer-Roo are good trades. Nothing wrong with the Ibbotson trade, but can’t see him changing price much in a week and you would miss Clisby’s price rise! Clisby was Jeppa’s downgrade pick this week and he is sitting nicely on my bench…

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    Tom H

    July 2, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Who should i get out of Goddard, Hep or Enright?

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      July 3, 2013 at 3:44 am

      Goddard. Everyone has him but atleast you’ll stop being at a disadvantage to them.

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        July 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm


  15. Gunner6288


    July 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Cheers Tbetta

    I’m all baout points this week, and am Looking at Boyd –> Ebert, and Vlaustin to Terlich. I have $0 exactly in the bank, so the trades have to fund themselves. What do you reckon?

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      July 3, 2013 at 12:19 am

      two sideways trade with $0 in bank will limit you for next week too. i agree with getting rid of boyd but vlas to terlich seems a waste (may not score to differently assuming vlas plays). so maybe jump on clisby this week as dont know too many more rook defenders coming through. this then allows an easier upgrade next week.

      • Gunner6288


        July 3, 2013 at 1:55 am

        Well Terlich’s tonned up twice under the new coach, while Vlaustin’s been poor the last two weeks

        If I buy Clisby I have to play him.

      • Gunner6288


        July 3, 2013 at 1:58 am

        THanks for the input :)

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      July 3, 2013 at 12:20 am

      I notice you can grab Waters and Stanton…. Haha.

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        July 3, 2013 at 12:21 am

        Otherwise, grab the best MID you can, then downgrade Vlastuin to Clisby. Will give you options next week, which could include upgrading to a top-line defender (assuming Vlastuin was your D6).

        • Gunner6288


          July 3, 2013 at 1:57 am

          Already got Stants, yeah Vlaustins the D6, would have to play Clisby (unless Goodes comes back in, but then its a toss up) – you don’t think Terlich will ton up again?

          Thanks for the thoughts :)

        • Gunner6288


          July 3, 2013 at 2:01 am

          I could go Waters and Cornes, what do you reckon? – a bit of risk/reward there

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            July 3, 2013 at 10:01 am

            My advice would be to downgrade SOMEONE to Clisby – you need some cash in the bank if you have 0. Clisby has 72 and 68 so has outscored a lot of premo def’s anyway so if you have to play him its not that big a risk – he looks to be avoiding the vest which is the biggest concern. If you do that you could sideways Boyd to –> Griff, ROK, Barlow(if he plays) Cornes etc etc. You then have enough cash in the bank to fix your D6 next week….

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    July 3, 2013 at 1:43 am

    Great read Tbetta. Thanks for the info.

    Quick question. Who would you prefer to bring in as a D5 (behind Goddard, hepp, ibbo and Gibbs) I’m looking at enright or malceski. Thoughts?

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      July 3, 2013 at 4:20 am

      The boys discussed exactly this in Monday’s podcast. Both Enright and Malceski got a mention.

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      July 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm

      Enright is my pick. Super consistent yet very unique pick. Malceski is very patchy, notice he’s been relying on intercept marks a fair bit as well.

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    July 3, 2013 at 3:09 am

    thoughts on griffin?

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      July 3, 2013 at 3:45 am

      read the article.. he likes him but thinks he might attract some heavy tags due to good form and Boyd’s absence. I tend to agree.

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    July 3, 2013 at 4:07 am

    Great article as always Tbetta, cheers. Couple I’m pondering for this week:

    DEF: Goddard, Gibbs, Hartlett, Scotland, Terlich, Goodes, Vlastuin, Pittard

    Pittard -> Clisby is a no-brainer this week.

    But then Goodes or Valstuin to say a Ibbotson?
    And then I’m actually tossing up whether Scotland gets benched and sees out the year as a D7 while I get Heppell in there later.

    Similarly I’m tossing up this week who gets benched in my MIDS out of T.Mitchell, Crouch and…Luke Hodge!

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      July 3, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      Yep, all good thought here. Defence needs a make-over and Clisby + Premo is the way to go.

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    July 3, 2013 at 8:23 am

    I dunno, the Stevie J project? I listened to the experts and got him in eventually, he underperformed then got suspended. Then I finally bent to the hype and got Swann in, and see what happened. I might get SJ back in this week, but just wanted to let you all know that means he will tank.

    • Burger


      July 3, 2013 at 9:28 am

      Stevie J will certainly tank this week – he’s not playing! It’s the 2nd week of his suspension. BTW another great article thanks Tbetta.

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        July 3, 2013 at 9:40 am

        Heh. Gosh it’s a long fortnight isn’t it?

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    July 3, 2013 at 8:26 am

    Also, ‘Ibbotson, Ellis and Griffen were all risky trade-in propositions at the time, but they’ve all come up trumps so far. Where my DT lizard brain was screaming “AVOID!”, Roy’s was crunching the numbers and taking calculated risks.’ I don’t know that this makes Roy a genius. I mean, we all take risks on rookies and relative unknowns and sometimes they pay off. Roy’s paid off. Mine didn’t.

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      July 3, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      ‘You’ve got to risk it to get the biscuit” is one of my favourite all-time movie quotes ever (gotta watch Fired Up if you haven’t already)…

      Just because you take a risk and it pays off, doesn’t make you lucky – you still have to pick that one guy to take a risk on out of all the risky options. Continually pegging the right risky guys is a genius skill I reckon, and Roy’s been awesome at it the last few years.

  21. Will


    July 3, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Is vlastuin->hanley an upgrade? I’ve got vlastuin, goodes and thurlow (and gibbs, goddard, heppell, hartlett, terlich) so I’m torn between trying to finish my backline with a fallen premo (not sure if hanley should be in a finished backline?) and generating cash to get someone more consistent like enright or houli…

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      July 3, 2013 at 9:56 am

      Definately not…Hanley can be easily tagged out of the game, and is getting so these days…the backline is sooo hard at the moment, but due to the dockers reasonably soft run (exc WCE in 2 weeks who will smash them;-) i’d look at Ibbo. has a low of about 75 which isnt terrible this year for a back but can get you 120+ every other week too…

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      July 3, 2013 at 1:24 pm

      I warn you not to get Hanley! He is being played in the forward line and will get a lot of tags along the way. i will be going Hanley to Hibberd or Ibbotson this week.

      • Will


        July 4, 2013 at 8:54 am

        cheers, i guess that’s enough to set me straight. I had him in a draft league since R1 and he was killing it for me at the beginning of the year. i guess im longing for days gone by lol….

  22. Graeme


    July 3, 2013 at 9:28 am

    Looks like Thurlow to Clisby and McAffer to Stokes for me. Rockliff can rot at F7 once Johno comes back. Next week Bliclavs to Rookie allowing me plenty of cash to updgrade some prem mifielders to better ones.

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    July 3, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Traded Boyd in for his fantastic 90….now who to flick him for
    – Barlow (risky after injury)
    – Griff (something still says “tagged” even with form + no boyd)
    – Watson (cheap, but money isnt a concern)
    – ROK (always screams down the home stretch and has easy run, in good f

    Who would you go with crew????

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      July 3, 2013 at 11:56 am

      ROK for me

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      Az Man

      July 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      Im in the same boat as you. Im going ROK.

    • Stuart


      July 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm

      I’ve currently gone ROK but could change to Barlow, Griff, Jack or someone else by Friday

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    July 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    Nice write up as always, I DestRoy is Black Cavier like, then I am Phar Lap as I was position 41876 after week 1, and I am now 223 with a bullet (pun intended)

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    July 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Good article once again TBetta

    Need a little help if anyone can

    DEF: God, Hep, Gibbs, Hanley, Hartlett, Vlastuin (Goodes, Webster)

    MID: GAJ, Pig, Pendles, Danger, ASwallow, Priddis, Boyd, Watson (Titch, KMart)

    RUC: Cox, Clarke (Blic, Nich)

    FWD: Bartel, Rocky, JJK, Cloke, Buddy, Dusty (Staker, BKennedy)


    2106 Overall

    Boyd —> Premo (Stanton?)
    Vlastuin —> Ibbo/Waters/Hibberd/Enright?!

    want to leave around 120k to grab SJ next week.


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      July 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm

      Boyd to Griffin or Jack
      Vlas to Ibbotson or Hibberd.
      Hibberd has a few easy games coming up.

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        July 3, 2013 at 1:30 pm

        I don’t like the chances of Griffin continuing his form with Boyd out…But I hadn’t really considered Jack before you mentioned him – Great run coming up! For the matter ROK could be good too. Dilemmas!

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          July 3, 2013 at 1:39 pm

          Yes ROK and Jack have a great run coming up and should be in the top 10 midfielders come season end. Malceski could be a POD too. i like Ibbotson though.

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    Jackson S

    July 3, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    to get stevie j i might go ben kennedy to daniher and vlastuin/goodes to clisby this week then next week go macaffer to stevie j and goodes/daniher to hibberd. what do u think?

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    July 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Great read as always Tbetta. Best article on this sight by far.
    Can I have some thoughts on my squad lads.

    DEF: God, Hep, Shaw, Gibbs, Terlich, Goodes (Staker, Thurlow)

    MID: Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Barlow, StevieJ, Priddis, Mundy, T Mitchel (Omeara, Crouch)

    RUC: Cox, Kreuzer (Nichols, Rowe)

    FWD: Riewoldt, Bartel, Stokes, Dusty, Roughead, Kennedy (Franklin, Macaffer)

    $372,500 in the kitty.
    this week thinking Goodes to Hibberd/Waters And Macaffer to Daniher

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      July 3, 2013 at 7:51 pm

      I’d use your cash rather than horde it at this stage.
      Maybe look at moving Omeara on for a Premo instead of getting Daniher.

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    July 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Melbourne’s improved DT scores for and against has nothing to do with a new coach and everything to do with their opposition over the past 2 weeks.

  29. Stuart


    July 3, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    As I have Thurlow & Webster on the pine in def and Goodes & Scotland on the Pine in Mid I’m thinking of skipping Clisby and going Vlastuin to Hunter (moving Scotland or Goodes to def) & Boyd to ROK (or another Premo).

    Leaves me with $447k to go Macaffer/Rocky to Stevie J & Goodes/Scotland to Heppell next week. If I go Thurlow to Clisby I don’t gain much cash plus Vlastuin has a high BE.

    • Stuart


      July 3, 2013 at 6:44 pm

      Hopefully Goodes is named this week.

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        July 3, 2013 at 7:03 pm

        He said on game day that he didn’t think he’d be back for the GWS game.

        • Stuart


          July 4, 2013 at 8:48 am

          Damn, might have to play Scotland or trade Goodes and play Vlastuin

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    July 3, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Who should I get in as I premium in my forward line

    I’ve already got:
    > Bartel
    > Martin
    > J.Kennedy
    > Buddy
    > Stevey J

    I’m thinking Nick Riewoldt, or even Roughead because I’ve already got Dean Cox and Nic Nat in my rucks and it would be a good DPP option.


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      July 3, 2013 at 8:52 pm

      Definitely Roughead.

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      July 3, 2013 at 11:36 pm


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    July 3, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    LOL Terls looks so happy that his head is exploding!

    Great read again Tbetta, thanks for your efforts

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