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Roy’s Trade Talk – Rd 14

Bye weeks are over but damn there is some carnage to deal with. Here are a few names that might help you navigate it. Be sure to discuss your ideas in the comments

  • Roy

The bye rounds are over but hold the celebration… There is carnage looming with confirmation of Selwood and Barlow out, mixed reports about Kelly, Nank and Rocky while my mate Zak Jones got suspended and don’t get me started on that bullsh*t.

 

Here are my top trade targets for the week:

Dom Sheed (MID/FWD, $486,000) Has embraced an increased midfield role and his scoring is reflecting that with a three round average of 112 and a break even of just 50. A great option.

Isaac Heeney (MID/FWD, $530,000) is all class and it has become obvious as to why I was throwing the ‘must have’ label a few weeks ago. He has a three game average of 105 which includes scores of 113 and 109 in his last two leading into a home game against the Bombers where he should easily cover his BE of 86.

Toby Greene (FWD, $531,000) is in season best form with an average of 108 in his last three. Unlike the above two, he doesn’t spend much time up the ground in comparison but if doesn’t effect his scoring. He is a nice price given form and the fact he has dropped $29K since the start of the year.

Nick Riewoldt (FWD, $525,000) is not for the faint of heart, but it may be the last opportunity to have the great man in your team…  even if it is unlikely to be every game over the remainder of the season. He is down $142K since the start of the year despite a respectable average of 97 and he is coming off an impressive 106 where he was receiving marks in the back pocket from kick ins… always a good sign.


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Jack Newnes (DEF/MID, $518,000) was very disappointing last week but he is still a great buy at this price. He has a three round average of 112 and has three out of his next four at ES.

Jake Lloyd (DEF/MID, $509,000) is nice and cheap due to his KO in 2 a few weeks ago. If you ignore that, he has scores of 91, 122, 122 and 106 in his last four… very nice for a defender.

Seb Ross (MID, $618,000) is a dead set jet and it is mind blowing that he is owned by less that 1% of the competition. He is averaging 117 in his last five games and has dropped under 110 on just one occasion in that time. He is absolutely ripping up ES and has plenty of games there on the run home.

Adam Treloar ($617,000) is one of the bargain of the week considering he is a genuine Fantasy star. He is averaging 114 despite a rough patch where he was battling injury but he looks to be well over that with scores of 116, 117, 109 and 126 in his last four.

Well there you have it, hopefully a couple of those names get you thinking and be sure to discuss your ideas in the comments.

@RoyDT

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169 Comments

169 Comments

  1. Crazed Turkey

    June 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Hey guys,

    Which is the best option for trades?

    Barlow > Riewoldt and Scooter > Treloar
    Barlow > Sheed/Wallis and Scooter > Treloar/Pendles
    Barlow > Yeo and Marchbank > Lloyd

    OR if Scooter is out for only 1 week (maybe with the possibility of two)

    Marchbank > Lloyd and Barlow > to any forward.

    Thanks in advance.

    • the Cricket

      June 20, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      Option 3. Don’t trade Scooter out yet if you can rest him on your bench for a week or two. Time for Marchbank to go (thanks for all the cash) and Lloyd still a bargain.

    • JJoker

      June 21, 2017 at 8:31 am

      Sheed and Treloar for me

  2. Euman

    Euman

    June 20, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    Dom for me

  3. mfawcett

    June 20, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    I’m thinking Barlow & Scooter > Newnes & Greene leaving me 43k for next week. Would give me a team line up of:

    Def: Adams, Laird, Simpson, Tuohy, Lloyd, Newman (EVW, Ryan)
    Mid: Titch, Merrett, Danger, Dusty, Hanners, Wines, Newnes, Cousins (Mountford, Picket)
    Ruck: Martin, Nank (Preuss, Cameron)
    Fwd: Greene, Heeney, Stevens, Dahlhaus, Sheed, Greenwood (Eddy, Hannan)

    Thoughts on those trades would be great please or some other suggestion.

    • Matt

      June 20, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      Solid trades mate. If you could get Yeo that would be good as he is a guaranteed top 2 forward really, but Newnes and Greene are good picks, can’t go wrong

  4. Matt

    June 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    Hey guys, ultimate footy keeper league starting up, need 7 more coaches, anyone who is interested and into their Fantasy footy is welcome to join.
    Here is the invitation link

    http://ultimate-footy.theage.com.au/346725/invitation

    • mfawcett

      June 20, 2017 at 8:12 pm

      I’d be keen but wouldn’t be available for the draft. In the west and wouldn’t be able to do a draft until 7pm Western Time which may be too late:(

      • Matt

        June 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm

        We wont do the draft until we get a full league, and we can make the draft a slow draft which would give everyone lots of time ie a number of hours to make their pick if they couldn’t do it straight away

  5. BazDad

    June 20, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    DEF: Adams, Tuohy, Laird, Shaw, Newnes, Newman (Hibberd, Ryan)
    MID: Mitchell, Danger, JP.Kennedy, Treloar, Martin, Kelly, S.Selwood, Cousins (Miles, Willsmore)
    RUC: Martin, Kreuzer (Soldo, Cameron)
    FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Steele, Heeney, Billings, JK-Harris (Junico, Brett Eddy)

    13k in the bank and need ideas.

  6. BazDad

    June 20, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    Also for a draft league, whos better Ellis or Salem in the defense (along with Tuohy and Lloyd)

  7. Oleg Markov

    June 20, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    Dalhaus cooked or worth holding?

  8. Normy

    June 20, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    How long do thay think josh Kelly is out for ? And what’s wrong this him ? Has anyone got any information on him !

  9. Brad

    June 20, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    So Scooter still a chance it sounds

  10. Peter

    June 20, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    He has a hip injury. Touch and go though against Brisbane they may rest him….

  11. Jakob

    June 20, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    Should i keep franklin or get rid of him

    • mfawcett

      June 20, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      keep. Why would you get rid of him? Must have bigger issues than a guy who can go off and should be top 6 forward?

  12. BazDad

    June 20, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    Thoughts on Tom Papley?

    • Tom

      June 20, 2017 at 8:53 pm

      Haha refer to my comment below

  13. Tom

    June 20, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    Thoughts on Tom Papley lads? Had 2 shockers to kick off but they were low TOG and after an interrupted pre season, since then has averaged 92 from his 7 ganes. 460k, with no real stand out Forwards bar Yeo he could be worth a look

    • Will

      Will

      June 21, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      geez, hadn’t noticed but you have a good point. cant help but feel like 460 is too much for the risk that he’ll drop back to 60s, maybe the value was there last week at 430ish. Still, great POD option who doesnt mind a ton!

  14. brad

    June 20, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    Def: Adams, Laird, Touhy, Lloyd, Newman, Marchy (EVW, Ryan)
    Mid: Titch, Zerrit, Rocky, Ablett, Danger, Ebert, Murphy, S.Selwood (Cousins, Mckenzie W)
    Ruck: Kruz, Martin (Soldo, Pierce)
    Fwd: Heeny, Barlow, Dahl, Wallis, Nank, McCarthy (Greenwood, Eddey)

    Thinking of going Scooter to Trelor and Barlow to Grey.
    Will leave 51k in bank to upgrade McCarthy next week.
    Current rank 228

    Thoughts…

  15. Dylan

    June 20, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    Treloar and Papley
    V
    Wines and Macrae?

    • Brendon

      June 21, 2017 at 1:19 pm

      Treloar and papley dalhaus cooked

  16. antongus1

    June 20, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    Hall and Barlow OUT
    A or B IN?

    A) Pendles and Dom Sheed
    B) Shuey (or Ebert/Sidebottom/619k mid) and Heeney

    Mids I already have – Titch Zerrett Danger Dusty Treloar JPK Oliver

    • Will

      Will

      June 22, 2017 at 10:52 am

      option 2

  17. spicemen 65789

    June 20, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    trade josh kelly or hold, can go anyone if i do and alos stef martin or kreuzer ? cheers

  18. Fletty

    June 21, 2017 at 8:12 am

    Which trade?

    Michael Barlow and Scooter out for either
    1.Gibbs and Yeo
    2.Yeo and Greene
    3.Simpson and zorko
    4.ablett and duncan
    5.merret and trealor

    Cheers

  19. JJOker

    June 21, 2017 at 8:44 am

    Help.
    1. Barlow and longer to Yeo and Grundy
    2.Barlow and Stewart to Sheed and T Adams.
    3. Barlow and D Myers to Sheed/Yeo and J Lloyd.

    Pre-trade team and cash $277K

    Def: Newnes Stewart Laird Newman Scharen Marchbank

    Mid: Rocky Gaff Ablett Danger Titch Oliver Zorko J selwood

    Ruck LOnger and Grundy

    For: Heeney Barlow Nanks Greenwod Dahl Ryder

  20. Daniel

    June 21, 2017 at 8:59 am

    Is anyone planning to hold Scooter? I’ve got Rocky, Titch, Zerrett, Danger, Dusty, Sloane and Ebert for my top 7 mids with a fit Scooter as M8, SPP and Myers on the bench.

    How’s this for a ballsy trade then? Keep Scooter (SPP cover), Barrett(F3 – yeah, needs work there) down to Stradnca, swap Buzza and Stradnca and bring in Jake Lloyd for EVW.

    No doubt the Thursday factor will throw it all up in the air again.

  21. Daniel

    June 21, 2017 at 9:09 am

    Sloane the best sub 600k mid?

    • Geoff

      June 21, 2017 at 9:21 am

      I’d prefer Murphy or JPK mainly due to consistency. Sloane more likely than not to ne tagged each week and high chance to pump out 60s.

  22. Rosie

    June 21, 2017 at 10:45 am

    JPK & $71k or Sidebottom & $21k??

    • D Day

      June 21, 2017 at 11:22 am

      JPK

  23. Luke

    June 21, 2017 at 11:17 am

    If we’re Upgrading scooter this week, and can afford anyone except titch, is it Better to go zorko (and have some spare $) or Doch?

    • Simon

      June 21, 2017 at 11:30 am

      Doch. You lose too much ground holding another defender in his place whereas with Zorko you don’t as there are heaps who can keep pace with him

  24. Toby

    June 21, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    I have R1. Kruezer, R2. Goldstein and R3. Longer. Thinking of trading longer to free up some cash. Are there any good downgrade targets? Is Ivan Soldo going to get another game?

    • Simon

      June 21, 2017 at 1:04 pm

      No, and don’t know. There’s talk of Nank missing this week, so he might…

  25. Toby

    June 21, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    Thoughts on team? any trade suggestions. ($72,200 remaining salary)
    I am considering: Pederson > Greene and Longer > Soldo (If Named)

    Def: K Simpson, L McDonald, N Newman, M Hibberd, J Howe, H Shaw, T Stewart, M Hibberd

    MID: P Dangerfield, J Selwood, M Bontempelli, D Hannebry, J Ziebell, D Beams, S Selwood, N Fyfe, J Barrett, J Cousins, D Mountford

    RUC: M Kreuzer, T Goldstein, B Longer

    FWD: E Yeo, L Franklin, L Dahlhaus, I Heeney, C Pederson, H Greenwood, L Webb, B Eddy

    Thanks

    • Alan

      June 21, 2017 at 12:37 pm

      Why trade Pederson?? Give him a week with Gawn, see how he goes, he’s not losing anything..

      Longer to Buzza and Barrett/Fyfe to a Premo

  26. Alan

    June 21, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    Who’s holding onto Scooter and/or Kelly??

    I’m thinking about benching them and playing Mountford and Cousins so I can dump the extremely underachieving Hall and Hanley.. So annoyed with them after the BYE that I can’t stand keeping them in my team and losing money..

    • Andy

      June 21, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      Yes, I’m now also considering keeping Scooter even if he misses a week.
      I might have to reconsider my trades and play Cousins. I’ll trade Barrett if he’s out.

    • Plugger

      June 21, 2017 at 1:12 pm

      I share your distress with Hall – we paid big money to bring him in for the byes and he has provided nothing but frustration. You have Hanley, I brought in Harbrow also for the byes – I think you got the better deal of two very raw deals.

      And if Scooter seems likely to be out just for the one week, I will keep him and trade Hall (even knowing he may be capable of having the last laugh this week- the saints don’t seem inclined to tag too tightly). But enough is enough! And he is most unlikely to reach anywhere near his 152 BE.

  27. Mick

    June 21, 2017 at 12:36 pm

    Mitch Wallis a worthy target? What will he average?

    • Simon

      June 21, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      Probably more worthy than Sheed… don’t really see either of them as keepers / premos, but as others have pointed out the pickings up forward are slim

      • Andy

        June 21, 2017 at 1:27 pm

        Agree. Sheed has been over-rated. And Wallis is currently doing better than his better rated teammates.

      • Plugger

        June 21, 2017 at 1:35 pm

        If neither are keepers (I assume they wouldn’t be planned to be), then Sheed’s BE of 50 vs Wallis’ of 92 might provide some grist for the mill in churning out a decision. Sheed’s 3 home games over the next month looks attractive too, if fattening up for an upgrade in 3 or 4 weeks, is part of the plan.

        • Kanye West

          June 21, 2017 at 3:16 pm

          I’d argue that Sheed’s fixture and 5 round average could see him as a top 8 averaging forward over the next few rounds at least. He has a better 5 round average (just) than Heeney and people are calling him a keeper.
          I’m getting on him for value, as he allows me to do my projected round 15 and 16 trades.

          • PowerAde

            June 21, 2017 at 3:55 pm

            cant argue with that logic, both sheed and wallis are playing like keepers over keppers like dahl and steele

          • Simon

            June 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm

            The crowd has won me over… maybe

  28. Will

    June 21, 2017 at 1:03 pm

    Marchbank to Hibberd
    Or
    Parker to Ebert/Shuey?

    • Simon

      June 21, 2017 at 1:06 pm

      Parker to anyone wins hands down

  29. Nick

    June 21, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Can’t decide whether to get in Newnes or Simpson for Touey. Thoughts?

    • Hogan

      June 21, 2017 at 3:16 pm

      Simpson. Carlton’s current game plan means +++ possessions for their back half.

    • D Day

      June 21, 2017 at 3:54 pm

      Why are you getting rid of Tuohy? Surely you have bigger fish to fry?

    • Simon

      June 21, 2017 at 4:20 pm

      Up till the weekend Simpson had been largely shit. I know he’s averaging 100 but that’s due to about 3 big scores and 9 poor-mediocre ones (between 53 and 102). I was actually contemplating dumping him. Not a lock for top 6 DEFs from here in my view.

      • Nick

        June 21, 2017 at 6:08 pm

        Thinking of getting rid of Tuoey only because Newnes and Simpson in similar price brackets should probably outscore him.
        And watching Carlton just knock the ball around was making me itch to get a Carlton defender in there!

      • PowerAde

        June 21, 2017 at 6:26 pm

        hate to admit it but I have owned simpson from the outset, choose him over doc start of year. completely agree, simpson may pull in a decent end of year average but frustrating as all hell watching him put out a 70 on the odd occasion

  30. Martin

    June 21, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    After reading 140 trade advice/questions. I have come to the conclusion. That nearly everyone is jumping on the sheeds train (Which I can understand), some are bringing in gray ( beyond me why), Kennedy is going to come on strong in the second half of the season (my crystal ball, hasn’t informed me of this, this year, previously he has) and my favourite is that people are thinking of Sloane/rocky this week trade ins. Bye.

    • Tommygun

      June 21, 2017 at 4:47 pm

      Most are picking Gray as a cheaper alternative to Sheeds in the forward line. Is there anybody you could name who might be a better choice but not Sheeds?
      The problem is that Scooter was undervalued at $500k and nobody that good at that price, so better to take the Barlow money and upgrade Scooter but then what do we do with 400k in the forwards? I only ask not to be a smart ass (I actually enjoyed your post) but because I’m one of those poor people bringing Gray in.

      • Martin

        June 21, 2017 at 6:13 pm

        Your not being a smart ass, you didn’t refer to me in anyway in an uncivil way. Gray could be a good pick, but he hasn’t shown any thing to date, that is consistent in what he has done in previous seasons. Don’t knowing your team, Greenwood, Bolton, Brown, Crocker or Beech. Just to name a few. You’ll save money, that you can use for upgrades next week. Hope that helps you.

        BYE

  31. jordricer

    June 21, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    49k
    D: Adams, Laird, Newnes, Marchbank, Stewart, Newman (L Ryan, VWillis)
    M: Dangerfield, Titchell, Zerrett, Dusty, Ablett, JPK, MMurphy, SSelwood, (Myers, Cousins)
    R: Stef, Grundy, (Preuss, Cameron)
    F: Dahlhaus, Yeo, Heeney, Barlow, Barrett, Greenwood (C.Brown, Hannan)

    Not sure who to get out…
    Scooter, Barlow, Preuss (cash sitting on the bench), VWillis, Marchbank.

    Open to anything at this stage.

  32. Liam

    June 21, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    Thoughts on Scooter-Whitfield and Lloyd-Beech via Cunico.

    Or are people thinking of holding Scooter??

  33. Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

    June 21, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    Does anyone else have a red dot next to Zac Jones at the moment in AF? Everyone else is yella…

  34. BazDad

    June 21, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    Westhoff or Dahl?

    • Simon

      June 22, 2017 at 10:45 am

      What flavour shit sandwich do you prefer?

      • Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo

        June 23, 2017 at 7:28 am

        😂

  35. Luke

    June 21, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Treloar or Sidebottom?

    • Huxley

      June 23, 2017 at 3:46 am

      Sidebum is a great unique. Treloar good value, more safety. Toss a coin

  36. Liam

    June 22, 2017 at 10:55 am

    Need help with trades this week. Have only 21k in the bank!
    Suggestions welcome.

    I’m thinking of going Lloyd-Beech(if named) via greenwood and Scooter- Whitfield

    What do yous think??

    Doch, Laird, Shaw, Adams, Newman Scharenberg,( EVW, Ryan)

    Rocky,Danger,Merrett,Tmich,Ablett,Hanners,JPK, Scooter( Myers, Lloyd)

    Martin, Jacobs( King, Cameron)

    Macrae, Buddy, Volt, Nank,Greenwood, Barrett(JKH, Cunico)

  37. Loz

    June 22, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Scooter to Zorko vs Merrett

    AND

    Cousins to Beech via Pickett
    vs
    Barlow to Macrae?

    If I get Beech this week it means I could go Barlow to Yeo next week. But I’ll be playing an extra fwd rookie on field this week.

  38. Feather

    June 22, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    Darcy Mac elevated! Likely to come in for Barlow methinks
    but at 270k and FWD only…
    bring him in for Fisher (req 30k)? or maybe trade barrett down to him and get some cash from it?

    • Feather

      June 22, 2017 at 1:17 pm

      290k sorry

    • Bjorn

      June 22, 2017 at 1:39 pm

      Yeah definitely an interesting one to keep an eye on this week. Averaging 122pts in NEAFL from 10 games, which as far as I understand is worth about 80 in real terms??? If he can do that at top level he could be a decent stepping stone.

  39. Frank

    June 22, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    Def
Adams Laird Lloyd marchbank Stewart Docherty (Willis, Ryan )
    Mid
Dangerfield, tom Mitchell, Rocky JPK murphy Merrett Gaff Mountford (Miles cousins )
    Rucks
Grundy Simpson ( Cameron preuss )
    Forward
Macrae Dahlhaus Yeo Heeney Greenwood Barrett (Black Pickett )

    I have currently 204k in the bank
    I’m thinking down grade black and upgrade preuss thoughts appreciated.
    If preuss plays do I keep him as ruck 2?
    Any other thoughts appreciated

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