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Roy’s Trade Talk – Rd. 2

Roy’s Trade Talk is a little later than the regular Tuesday morning time slot but it’s here. Use the comments section to discuss your trade options with the DTTALK community.

  • Roy

What a week! The big dogs came to play for coaches in the first round with some massive scores, while a few of the mid price ‘roses’ also came to the party… unfortunately, most of the rookies didn’t get the memo and have many coaches sitting on the edge their seat for this weeks team selections following the worst collective debuts I have ever witnessed. Guns and Rookies strategy could easily become Guns and Doughnuts, so unfortunately two trades could
easily be used this week shuffling the rookie deck.

A common question I am receiving is in regard to hold or fold Nick Riewolt (FWD, $659,000) and whether to hold or fold after hearing the news it might only be a 1 to 2 week injury. Despite this, it’s almost a blessing in disguise to patch up a bad rookie pick by trading Roo out to a mid priced success story (for round one at least) and bringing in someone like Jack Steele (MID/FWD, $442,000) or Touk Miller (MID/FWD, $504,000) and using the cash to upgrade to a ‘best 22’ player you may have missed like (Caleb Marchbank DEF, $226,000) or Zac Jones (DEF, $352,000).

Here are some mid priced guys that we all considered, but many didn’t go through with that are great targets this week.

Dyson Heppell (MID, $578,000) What an absolute champion! After looking a little off the pace in the JLT the Bombers skipper absolutely dominated with a performance for the ages, scoring 156 from 34 touches, 8 marks, 7 tackles and 3 goals. There is a serious risk the Bombers may have a flat patch at some stage soon given the emotional high that has been likened to a Premiership, but even if so, Hepp is great value.

Andrew Gaff (MID,$587,000) Did exactly what we thought… Absolutely dominating with the likes of Sam Mitchell and Matthew Priddis combining as the best inside mid combination in the competition and provided endless opportunities for Gaff to record +6’s on the outside.  He took a phenomenal 13 marks and gathered 36 possessions (32 uncontested) on his way to 144.

Marc Murphy (MID, $510,000) looked like the Marc Murphy of old, as opposed to the one we saw last year. He didn’t miss a beat against the Tigers and it left many of us scratching our head as to how we could miss Bryce Gibbs at his price last year, only to do it again with a player who has averaged as high as 111 in the past. He has 35 touches, 6 marks and 7 tackles for a whopping 139.

Jobe Watson (MID, $47,000) was one of the feel good stories (well for most of us) but especially good for the 19% of coaches who selected him after he dominated with 27 touches, 7 marks and 8 tackles for 122. He has a BE of just 52 and looks set for a sensational season.

Imagine the cash we could have saved by starting with Matthew Kreuzer (RUC,$454,000) and Jarrod Witts (RUC, $352,000). Kreuz looked like the player we have all thought he could be with 39 hit outs, 2 goals and 15 possessions for 120, while Witts embraced the responsibility of sole ruck duties at his new club with 37 hit outs and 9 tackles a highlight of his 104. Both remain worthy selections, especially for those who may have taken a punt on Tom Hickey.

Of the young bloods worth grabbing, unfortunately we will need to pay for it as the guys at the top of the tree such as, Andrew McGrath (DEF/MID, $276,000), Will Hoskin Elliot (FWD $258,000), Sam Powell Pepper (MID, $233,000) and even Alex Neal-Bullen (FWD/MID, $288,000) all come at a cost after great games but their job security and scoring ability make them worthwhile.

Use this article as a platform to discuss your trade options with the DTTALK community

@RoyDT

187 Comments

187 Comments

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      James Hird

      March 29, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      my team doesn’t need any pharms yet

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      Buster

      March 29, 2017 at 9:50 pm

      Wow! Jobe Watson is cheap at $47,000. I didn’t know players could go that low! Did they discount him cause he took drugs or something?

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    Jason

    March 29, 2017 at 1:09 am

    Volt -> touk miller, Murphy or Watson?

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      Fantasy King

      March 29, 2017 at 1:29 am

      I’d say Miller. But all options are good.

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    Mark

    March 29, 2017 at 2:02 am

    Is it worth downgrading Mills to Jones?? I don’t really have any trades to make tbh but choosing mills ahead of Jones has been my only regret so far. However I am worried that with rampe injured Jones will play a more defensive role. Thoughts will be appreciated

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      Beats

      March 29, 2017 at 9:56 am

      If Aliir comes into the side Jones will be fine

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    John

    March 29, 2017 at 2:03 am

    DEF: Docherty, Laird, Touhy, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart, Otten, Hibberd
    MID: Pendles, Titch, Adams, Steven, Fyfe, J. Lloyd, Beams, O’Meara, Mountford, Barrett
    RUC: Grundy, Nank, Preuss, Cameron
    FWD: Roo, Steele, Roughead, Taranto, M. Kennedy, Butler, Pickett, Eddy

    Roo -> Hannan, Hibberd -> Heppell? I dont have Ainsworth, WHE, Powell-Pepper or McGrath though. Is it worth developing those players over to have some good upgrade targets in a few rounds time? I think all 4 can get to 350-400k. Thinking of going Roo -> Ainsworth, Hibberd-> Powell-Pepper. Other option is to get Dahl/Miller/McCrae. Thoughts?

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    Alan

    March 29, 2017 at 7:34 am

    Who will average more – Taranto or Sam PP?!

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      Fourbells

      March 29, 2017 at 10:02 am

      I believe Taranto will struggle to be in the side long term, therefore SPP

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    Corey

    March 29, 2017 at 7:48 am

    Good trades?
    Taranto or kennedy to neal bullen
    and
    hampton to zak jones

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      BenS

      March 29, 2017 at 10:54 am

      Hold Hampton if you can but otherwise they seem good

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    James

    March 29, 2017 at 7:53 am

    Thinking of trading J.Viney to Heppell and Eddy to butler or Houston.
    Thoughts ?

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      Fourbells

      March 29, 2017 at 9:57 am

      Heppell or Gaff and yes to Butler but not Houston

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        James

        March 29, 2017 at 10:33 am

        Cheers! already have Gaff, so I reckon I’ll go with Heppell

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    Pedro

    March 29, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Hi guys some input on trades would be much happreciated.

    Which option is the best:

    A. Mills + Swallow –> Jones + Watsone
    B. Horlin-S + Taranto –> SPP + WHE
    C. Swallow + Taranto –> Oliver + WHE

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    SamBennetts

    March 29, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Wellingham –> Jones
    Taranto –> WHE
    Thoughts was also considering Docherty –> Laird

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      Fourbells

      March 29, 2017 at 9:55 am

      Wellingham to Jones – No (Rampe out means Jones might have lockdown role)
      Taranto to WHE – Yes
      Docherty to Laird – No – Chasing points and Docherty will be a top 6 defender

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    TimorSaint

    March 29, 2017 at 10:36 am

    McGrath or Jones – who has better JS and scoring potential ?

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      BenS

      March 29, 2017 at 10:51 am

      I’d say Jones personally

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    joelzettin1

    March 29, 2017 at 10:36 am

    houghts on getting Alex Neel Bullen?

    He has a break even of -2 so I assume he will go up in price alot

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      BenS

      March 29, 2017 at 10:55 am

      Decent shout but don’t expect those scores every week. Or even again. Will produce cash though

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      Idana

      April 8, 2017 at 2:05 pm

      Plaeisng to find someone who can think like that

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    Lance Franklin

    March 29, 2017 at 10:44 am

    Trades:
    Swallow -> Redden
    Jack Steven -> Heppell/ Murphy/ Gaff (Chasing cash and value)

    32k remaining with Heppell, 100k remaining with Murphy and 23k remaining with Gaff

    Also thinking Jake Lloyd -> Zac Jones to case more cash

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    BenS

    March 29, 2017 at 10:50 am

    Which do you guys think is better.

    1) Voldt > Miller + J. Smith > Z. Jones

    Or

    2) Voldt > WHE + J. Smith > JJ

    Current line ups for reference:
    DEF: Adams, Laird, Doc, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten (Hibbo + Smith)
    FWD: Voldt, Dahl, Steele, Roughy, Taranto, Kennedy (Butler + Eddy)

    Thanks for any advice!!

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      Lance Franklin

      March 29, 2017 at 11:09 am

      From the looks of your team youre going to be coping a ZERO with otten unlikely to make the team this week. Therefore I would go for pick 2 however IMO.

      I would merge both trades. Voldt -> WHE and Smith -> Z. Jones
      Z Jones looks to be set for a great year coming off that half back roll where he will get a lot of the ball. JJ is good at this as well but he is also around 150k more. I would also grav WHE as he is great value and wont be far off the scoring from what Miller will produce.

      Next week id recommened putting the saved cash into an under performing mid pricer and boosting them to a premo (potentially a mid field you have)

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      Nelle

      April 8, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      Toncdhowu! That’s a really cool way of putting it!

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    Tony Modra

    March 29, 2017 at 10:52 am

    DEF:Adams,Laird,Mills,Marchbank,Hampton, Otten (Hibbered,Stewart)

    MIDS: Danger,Rocky,Treloar,Titch,Beams,Jobe,Jom,Horlin Smith (Barrett,Pickett)

    RUCKS: Martin,Nank (Preuss,Cameron)

    FWD: Franklin,Dahlhaus,Steele,Roughy, WHE,Butler (Eddy,Hannan)

    Absolutely stuffed, I have no idea what trades to do and would appreciate some input. Obviously chasing some cash but getting mixed feelings about ANB and McGrath and their scoring potential.

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      BenS

      March 29, 2017 at 10:57 am

      Can move on GHS for someone who will gain cash and get rid of Hibbo to McGrath if you have the cash

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      Alex

      March 29, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      I wouldn’t say you are stuffed. It’s a good team.

      I would put Stewart on the field and Otten on bench. Maybe SPP for GHS as he has much better JS? Then you might try get a few more playing options on your bench down back?

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    Nush

    March 29, 2017 at 11:15 am

    Any thoughts on Mills > Marchbank.
    Smith (melb) > SPP? leaves me with $152.. I scored 2194 last week

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      Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

      March 29, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      Solid

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      Denver

      April 8, 2017 at 2:15 pm

      Fell out of bed feeling down. This has bretghenid my day!

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    Jordy

    March 29, 2017 at 11:16 am

    I have no trades that need to be done but im thinking of getting rid of Callum Mills for wither Zac Jones or McGrath? Good idea or nah? Then I was thinking of upgrading o’meara? What do you think?

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      nush

      March 29, 2017 at 11:23 am

      im looking at same thing but already have jones so working something depending on rookies getting cut.

      McGrath will get u more cash but possible inconsistent scoring.

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      nush

      March 29, 2017 at 11:24 am

      do you have marchbank already?

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    What the Bejeebers

    March 29, 2017 at 11:40 am

    Ive got Voldt and don’t have Macrae. Was wondering if the best option was to go Voldt -> Macrae (a set and forget) OR go Voldt -> Touk Miller (a break out), and potentially use the cash elsewhere

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    Jibba

    March 29, 2017 at 11:51 am

    Trading M Kennedy > Hannan leaves me enough to upgrade hannebery to any midfielder. Already have danger,rocky,fyfe,gaff,crouch.

    Is it better to take a treloar/merrett or get a heppell/tmitchell and save money to use elsewhere?

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    Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

    March 29, 2017 at 12:33 pm

    Thoughts on trading danger to Heppell and then trading treloar to Murphjy because Heppell and Murphy score higher on the weekend

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      Jeremy Praz

      March 29, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      brilliant trades, gawn > kruezer is another worth thinking about given the cash savings!!

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      Dtrel

      March 29, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      keep danger and Treloar because they will probably average more and you don’t really want to trade out premos.

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      Jacob

      March 29, 2017 at 12:53 pm

      lol

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      MickyB

      March 29, 2017 at 1:01 pm

      Danger and Treloar are locks

      • Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

        Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

        March 29, 2017 at 1:04 pm

        Love how you think I’m actually serious,
        Did u also kno the word Gu liable is written on the roof

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          MickyB

          March 29, 2017 at 2:09 pm

          calm down mate, i was just having a laugh. not sure what you’re taking it so seriously for. hate when people like you take internet comments too seriously

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            MickyB

            March 29, 2017 at 6:48 pm

            I need a new name . so confusing..
            signed 1st post MickyB

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      Alex

      March 29, 2017 at 2:32 pm

      Has anyone made a Zac Dawson joke im the last hour?

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        PowerAde

        March 30, 2017 at 11:51 am

        How did Zac get into his house after a truck crashed into it?

        He didn’t because the Dawson the floor

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          PowerAde

          March 30, 2017 at 12:26 pm

          it wasn’t that bad, hey?

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    Lance Franklin

    March 29, 2017 at 1:11 pm

    Trades:
    Swallow -> Redden
    Jack Steven -> Heppell/ Murphy/ Gaff (Chasing cash and value)

    32k remaining with Heppell, 100k remaining with Murphy and 23k remaining with Gaff

    Or
    Jake Lloyd -> Zac Jones (not sure about this trade yet)
    Swallow -> Redden or Murphy

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      Alex

      March 29, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      Don’t get Redden, unless it’s a joke

      Of those three get Gaff or Heppell

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        Lance Franklin

        March 30, 2017 at 2:34 pm

        2011 avg – 109.2
        2012 avg – 103.1
        2013 avg – 94.9
        2014 avg – 105.5
        2015 avg – 97
        2016 avg – 64.9*** (Moved to WCE)

        Now that WCE have Sam Mitchell with a firing Pirddus, Shuey and Gaff their midfield just went Beast mode!! Redden has support now in rotations and has also shown his JS is golden you’re not going to get dropped for 22 disposals and 8 tackles while sharing the load with the other 3 midfielders.

        No joke in picking Redden, Swallow is still injured and he is a great mid priced replacement IMO

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    MickyB

    March 29, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    Thoughts ??Roo out for a solid mid and with the lot over cash should I bump up rucks or mids
    I’ve got Ryder and Nanker in the ruck
    Taranto to move in the mid and Swallow if not named this week.

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      Ellen

      April 8, 2017 at 1:47 pm

      I’ll try to put this to good use imdteiaemly.

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    dan

    March 29, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    where do I find breakevens guys?

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    Bretto

    March 29, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Roy & Others please help, what would you recommend out of the followibg trades:
    Volt to WHE & Joel Smith to J Johanissen or
    Volt to Touk M & Joel Smith to A McGrath (Ess)

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    Buck Hunter

    March 29, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    Thoughts on Eddy > Hannah AND Mills > Touhoy

    or hold on Mills for another couple?

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      ZingaSo

      March 29, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      I’d hold onto mills for another week. However if you have cash for Eddy > Hannan, that is a good trade.

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    Camel

    March 29, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    DEF: Adams, Laird, Doc, Marchbank, Hampton, Stewart (Hibbered ,Otten)

    MIDS: Danger, Treloar, T.Mitchell, Fyfe, Beams ,Jom ,Powell Pepper, Barrett (Mountford ,Pickett)

    RUCKS: Martin, Nank (Preuss,Cameron)

    FWD: Macrae, Franklin, Dahlhaus, Roughy, WHE, Taranto (Eddy,Butler)

    Anyone have any ideas on what i should do with this team?

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      Alex

      March 29, 2017 at 2:50 pm

      Do you have any cash? I would trade out taranto for Hannan, as he’ll generate cash with a low breakeven. Or maybe Stewart to Mcgrath or Jones.

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        Camel

        March 29, 2017 at 2:56 pm

        at the moment im thinking i will have to go:
        hibbered to vickers = no $ change
        Taranto to Hannan = +55k

        this will leave me with 110K in the bank

        Im just not sure if this is a waste of money having it in the bank or an advantage for future trades….

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    marcus

    March 29, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Why hasn’t anyone thought of trading a premium ruck like Gawn or Martin for say a Sandilands or a witts, then upgrading somewhere else.

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      dan

      March 29, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      go ahead! crazy talk. 1 game and ppl think that all these guys are going to maintain these averages. only the elite ones will keep it up. Kruezer is not elite

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    Bartel13

    March 29, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    I need to get rid of N. Riewoldt and D. Swallow!

    Was thinking Riewoldt to T. Miller or should I go Jack Steele?

    As for Swallow, I will have enough for Marc Murphy or should I take the opportunity to downgrade to McGrath and save some money?

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      Tisha

      April 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      That saves me. Thanks for being so sesilbne!

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    Fantasy King

    March 29, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    Zak Jones or Zach Tuohy?

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    Ray

    March 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    N. Riewoldt unfortunately has to go but for who? Already have Roughead, Dahlhaus, Billings and Nakervis in fwd line. Thinking of either, Macrae, Franklin or Kennedy. Macrae is enticing due to DPP but also having Dahlhaus makes me unsure. If Dusty was available through DPP I’d certainly go for him. Suggestions pls?

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    Swanny

    March 29, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Which trade?

    1) Riewoldt + Teia Miles -> JJK + WHE (7k left)
    2) Riewoldt + Taranto -> Buddy + WHE/Neal-Bullen (79k/49k left)
    2) Riewoldt + Taranto -> JJK + WHE/Neal-Bullen (102k/72k left)

    Or possibly save more cash and go for Touk Miller or Jack Steele?

    Any other trades, advice would be appreciated

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    Dawg

    March 29, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    Thoughts (all trades via DPP action):
    1. Riewoldt+Smith -> WHE & Stef Martin (giving Gawn + Martin R1/R2 – Nank into Fwd)
    2. Riewoldt+Smith->WHE & Heppell (adding to Danger, Treloar, Fyfe, Gaff, Titch, JOM, GHS in the mids)

    Cheers

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    Bom

    March 29, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Best option??

    1. NRoo + Hibberd -> Hannan + Gaff
    2. NRoo + Hibberd -> ANB + Murphy/Watson
    3. NRoo + Eddy/M.Kennedy -> Touk + ANB

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    Choco

    March 30, 2017 at 1:03 am

    What to do with Bernie Vince?

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    Daniel

    March 30, 2017 at 9:50 am

    3k ITB, I scored 2198 and I am currently ranked 2173rd

    DEF: T.Adams, J.Johannisen, R.Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, T.Stewart, E.Vickers
    MIDS: Dangerfield, Treloar, S.Mitchell, D.Beams, Fyfe, SPP, T.Mitchell,
    O’Meara, Barrett, Pickett
    RUCK: S.Martin, Nankervis, Pierce, Preuss
    FWD: Taranto, Dalhaus, Miles, Roughead, N.Riewoldt, WHE, Butler, B.Eddy

    I am new to AFL Dream Team and would like to know what my best trades for overall are, appreciate your assistance.

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    Agents of S.H.I.E.L

    March 30, 2017 at 10:34 am

    Rocky, Zerrett or Pendles?

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      Bob

      March 30, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      Pendles, cheapest one won’t score much less then the others

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    Beast

    March 30, 2017 at 11:14 am

    Would you consider trading Fyfe to either Heppell or Jobe for cash generation and Taranto to Whe

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      Dawg

      March 30, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      No, surely you have bigger problems than trading out a bloke who scored 110 last round.

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    Bom

    March 30, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Best combo?

    Hannan + gaff
    OR
    ANB + Touk/Watson/Murphy

    If B, best of the 3?

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      John

      March 30, 2017 at 4:32 pm

      yeah B with watson, not convinced with murphy yet and you get a little more extra cash.

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    cam

    March 30, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    DEF: Adams, Laird, Shaw, Hampton, Marchbank, Otten (Stewart, Hibberd)
    MID: Dangerfield, Treloar, Titch, Fyfe, Beams, O’meara, Powell-pepper, Barret (Pickett, Mountford)
    RUC: Gawn, Nankervis (pruess, cameron)
    FWD: Riewoldt, Dalhaus, Steele, Roughead, Taranto, Bowes (Butler, Eddy)
    10K

    Thoughts on what trades to make???

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      PowerAde

      March 30, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      I would go roo and one of either Taranto or bowes for whe and miller if it was my squad

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    Lance Franklin

    March 30, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    1. J Lloyd -> Zak Jones and Swallow -> Redden (155k Remaining)
    2. J Lloyd -> Zak Jones and Swallow -> Murphy (58k Remaining)
    3. Steven -> Heppell and Swallow -> Redden (32k Remaining)
    4. Steven -> Gaff and Swallow -> Redden (23k Remaining)
    5. Steven -> Murphy and Swallow -> Redden (100k remaining)
    6. Steven -> Murphy and Swallow -> Touk Miller (9k remaining) – potential for DPP

    Please help

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      Liam

      March 30, 2017 at 4:44 pm

      Yeah i wouldn’t consider trading in redden

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        Rob

        March 30, 2017 at 4:46 pm

        do either option 2 or 6

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    Liam

    March 30, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    Should i upgrade watson to heppel or trade caddy to macrae

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