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Tbetta’s Bullets: Round 8

Welcome to the return of the fully articulate Bullets! Apologies for the hasty effort last week – I’ve learnt the same lesson Riewoldt & Dal Santo were taught last season – technology is not always kind to us. Anyway, into the important stuff – the Round 8 review! Check it out.


  • Water-Cooler Threads

Welcome to the return of the fully articulate Bullets! Apologies for the hasty effort last week – I’ve learnt the same lesson Riewoldt & Dal Santo were taught last season – technology is not always kind to us. Anyway, into the important stuff – the Round 8 review. It was a highly variable round, with scores ranging all the way from 1800 to 2300 from high-quality teams, depending on whether you dodged the few, but very damaging, mines hidden in the fantasy battlefield this week. Let’s cover a few talking points out of Round 8:

“Oh man, you’re not still holding Gibbs are ya?”

On the surface, holding Gibbs looks like a bad call in hindsight. He’s been missing with that ‘slight hamstring strain’ (again, club politics… wankers) for three and a half weeks now – If he misses Round 9, it certainly will be. But look at what’s happened since he’s been gone; if you sideways traded him out in Round 6, you probably picked up one of Waters (attractive bye round), or either Hartlett or Birchall based on their form. We all know how that has worked out – you’d have been much better off playing someone like Terlich as starter instead. And then in Round 8, you may have been forced to leave one of Ellis/Terlich/Vlastuin on the bench as an emergency – speaking as one coach who held onto Gibbs, stashed him on the pine and put my faith in Vlastuin, I can say I’m actually pretty happy with the way that evolved. I certainly won’t be all smiles if he fails his fitness test this weekend though, that’s for sure.

“Yeah, Dale Thomas will be back in two weeks, no worries”

Yet another case of clubs managing fan reaction. Collingwood has had a tough, and probably morale-draining for the fans, run with injuries so far in 2013, so it comes as no surprise that the PR chose to go down the ‘deliriously optimistic’ path with their medical reports. All I can say is, if you truly believed that a club like Collingwood would risk one of its most talented and bankable stars by rushing him back after he injured the very same ankle that he had off-season surgery on, then you probably also believe in the tooth fairy, the mysterious power of the Bermuda Triangle and the concept of an equal AFL fixture. Sure enough, news filtered down today that Daisy has just completed his second ankle surgery and may not even take to the field again this season. Trade, trade, trade.

“Swanny, 90? What?”

Do you remember that Five For Fighting song, “Superman (It’s Not Easy)”? One line that should resonate with you before you reach for the pitchforks and start hunting Swanny down is, “Even heroes have the right to bleed”. Yes, he failed to get to 100 this week. But let’s gain a little perspective here… this is only the second score he’s had in double-figures in the last two seasons, with his other an injury-affected 95. His two worst scores are 90 and 95, how cruel of him. Complaining about Swanny’s form this year would be like Ashton Kutcher whinging about Mila Kunis’ cooking. Shut up, and appreciate the amazing specimen in front of you. Sir Oinkington will be back, and if you took a peek at Calvin’s Captains like any serious DTer, you’d have known he was due for an off-game anyway.

“That Jolly bump was totally different to the Kelly hit last week”

Pffft. In the way that it occurred to different players at a different location and at a different time, maybe. You’d be splitting hairs – nay, atoms – trying to distinguish between the heinousness of these crimes. No sane human can blame James Kelly for this tweet:

James Kelly Tweet

Now this doesn’t affect us in the fantasy world directly – if you had either Jolly or Kelly in your salary cap sides, you wouldn’t be browsing this site – but it does have big-picture ramifications. The MRP may as well be called the MRL; the Match Review Lottery. I honestly picture the panel sauntering into the office on a Monday morning with bottles of whisky and absinthe, comparing their egos over shots of liquor then playing ‘Spin the Bottle’ with the empties to decide the punishments of any quasi-incident that rears its head over the weekend. Come on guys, us fans are all concrete-mixers; we’re just looking for some consistency. I just pray that our players can continue to avoid the Russian Roulette that is the MRP’s ire.


  • Polling and Trolling

Polling R8

3. Rookie Backmen

After suffering weeks of acute pain in the backline – thanks mainly to our popular Portlets’ fortunes following that of their club as a whole – we’ve finally had a week where we can sit back, look at our backlines, and the desire to make a dartboard out of their smug little 8-bit faces isn’t anywhere near as strong as it once was. I’m talking of course about the rookies involved in the Tigers vs Melbourne points-fest, where Terlich collected a team-high 120 points, and eventual victors Vlastuin and Ellis cherry-picked their way to 131 and 155 points respectively.

While most jumped on Terlich and Vlastuin as standard in the weekly rookie cycle, Ellis was one that many missed. Priced precariously at $217k after his 85 in Round 5 (and after finding himself in a vest over the first four weeks), if you jumped on him as an expensive rookie right as our Waters/Gibbs/Heppell issues started to surface, you can safely order a ‘Trade of the Year’ Trophy and bask in its shiny glory. Since he shed the vest, he’s averaged 113.5 and shot up $165k. Now that’s DTing, Barry.

2. Sam Dwyer (104)

While other forward rookies drift away around him (Sinclair and Rowe nowhere to be seen, Mayes regressing and Neade tiring), Dwyer has stepped up in a huge way. Unfortunately, this just happened to be after his BE maxed out a fortnight ago (at around 52, which looked very doubtful based on recent form) and many coaches moved him on. And in many cases, for Dale Thomas, who scored 78 before abusing his surgically-repaired ankle. It was certainly the ‘right’ move tactically at the time – it just goes to show how fickle this game that we love is.

Coaches who held onto the mature-ager will be ecstatic with the 95 and 104 point returns from Dwyer in the last two weeks, which has the added benefit of kick-starting his price generation again; his BE is down to -22 this week, even after swelling by $54k in the past fortnight. Great hold.

1. Keiran Jack (138)

Call me a pessimist, but I was one coach who always assumed that Jack would be just a SC gun, never a DT star; much in the same way that JPK (98.6 DT versus 120 SC) and Andrew Walker (83.9 DT versus 111.4 SC) – and Judd in the past – are much better suited to the more complicated salary cap competition. Not the case. Jack has actually averaged 106.1 points per game in 2013, plus he’s topped the ton in all but one game this year; a feat matched only by the competition elite in Swan, Cornes and Ablett. He now has to be a legitimate Premium consideration.

Honourable Mentions: Ablett (135), Bartel (119), Fyfe (116), Ja. Roughead (118), Priddis (104), Zorko (103), Naitanui (103), Stokes (99), O’Meara (99), Staker (61).


Trolling R83. Stevie J (LW)

After being one of the most traded-in players just a fortnight ago, Stevie J has done the unthinkable and withdrawn late, forcing donuts, tears and probably a handful of divorces along the way. What’s even worse is that he did it at training mid-week, meaning that the club knew he was in doubt and never said anything. Pricks… One of my all-time AFL pet hates, along with that counter-intuitive sliding-in rule and the fact that Firrito still exists. An obvious flow-on effect from this is that coaches weren’t able to prepare emergency-wise, often resulting in a dreaded donut or possibly Kerridge’s 55,  Neade’s 42 or Mayes’ 31. Ouch… And especially ‘ouch’ for those coaches holding onto a hobbled Daisy.

2. Birchall (36)

What happened to Birchall? While we’re there, what happened to every other fad, like The Jonas Brothers, Blu-Ray technology and Myspace? Because that’s what Birch is starting to look like – a fad that eventually became tired; a novelty. I mean, if I was to tell you that Player X averaged 119.8 over the first four rounds of the season, and Player Y averaged 61.9 over the next four games, you’d be pretty safe in assuming they were different players. And Player Y was sh*t. (Predictable) Spoiler Alert: Birchall is both Player X and Player Y. The worst thing is, there’s nothing we can do but hold on and ‘enjoy’ the roller coaster ride – most of us spent too much getting him in ($520k plus) to just lose faith now. (That might sound stubborn… But remember, this is coming from a guy that has held all of Waters, Gibbs, Heppell, Goodes and Daisy so far. So yeah, stubborn works.)

1. Mayes (31)

Generally, we expect our rookies to start off slowly before finding consistency after 6-8 games (think O’Meara) – or at the very least, display the kind of typical inconsistency you get from young, and often by extension, fringe, players in their first season at AFL level. Not Mayes. He instantly built us up, buoyed our hopes with a first-up moving average of 93.7 – excellent for a fresh-faced 18 year old – before slowly tearing down the walls of hope around us with totals of 65, 54 and a green-vested 31. Put simply, Sam Mayes is the Benjamin Button of Dream Team. I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if he were to be dropped this week, Karnezis-style, so strongly consider banking the $133k profit and moving him on.

Dishonourable Mentions: Wellingham (8), Zac Smith (25), Whitfield (36), M. Wright (45), J. Selwood (69), S. Selwood (71), Dangerfield (77), Swan (90).


  • Thinking About The Byes

Firstly, if you haven’t had the time to check out @WarnieDT’s Bye piece, then head over immediately. It includes all the nuts and bolts of how the MBR’s work for us in DreamTeam (confirmed by Virtual Sports), plus a quick look at the spread of players over these rounds and the accepted trading strategy that most adopt to counter the devastation of the bye period. The points below are an extension of those basic principles.

The bye period is a dark cloud on the horizon, an unavoidable bout of inclement weather we all have to weather before coming out bigger, better and stronger. If you don’t think about it now, you’ll certainly be thinking about it in Rounds 11-13, and these thoughts aren’t going to be all rainbows and unicorns. More like Nickleback-y and Ricky Nixon-ish. The best way to prepare for the byes is the same as you would for a Zombie Apocolypse. Here is my “Five Steps for Surviving the Byemageddon.”


1. Enlist Every Able Body.

When the undead come for you, you’re going to want to have all the able men and women at your disposal to ward off the lethal waves of attacks and contribute to your continued survival.  Everyone has a role to play, whether it’s on watch, cooking and cleaning, scrounging weapons and supplies, or just plain old zombie killing.

This means that there’s no room for dead weight. Dale Thomas simply has to go if he’s not going to play. Same goes for rookies like Rowe, Sinclair, Viney, Heath, Plowman, etc – there’s no room for passengers over the MBRs. Aside from obviously avoiding donuts, it’ll help you put together the best score possible thanks to the new ‘Best 18’ system.

Say you have 18 players take to the field, totalling 1750 points. Well done Coach, you avoided a donut. But if you had 20 players available, you’re able to drop off those last two disappointments – likely 30 or 40-point scores the way things are going lately. That 1750 becomes 1830, 1850, 1900. The more the merrier people, so don’t underestimate the power of job security.

2. Head to Big W for Supplies.

With the living dead coming for your brain matter, you’re going to need some supplies. Food, water, power generation, fuel, weapons like shovels and crowbars, building materials, medicine – you’re going to need the lot. You simply won’t survive the long periods of isolation, the repeated attacks, and the harrowing fear without them. Big W has most of what you need, otherwise head to Bunnings and then any abandoned country farms later in the apocalypse.

Simiarly in Dream Team, you won’t survive the Byemageddon without some serious reinforcements – but it’s also just as important that these reinforcements are appropriate. No good coming back with hair dryers or popcorn makers – gotta keep it practical. That means keeping an eye on the players that you’re trading in over the next few weeks.

How does this new player affect your bye situation? As a general rule of thumb, anything close to a 9/10/11 (or more likely a 8/10/12) weekly bye structure is what you should be aiming for by Round 11. That might mean you have to overlook a juicy Jobe Watson at $480k because it makes you too top-heavy in Round 13, or strongly consider trading in Thurlow instead of making an upgrade this week because you’re struggling with Round 12 defenders.

3. Fortify your Asylum.

You’ve made the basic security enhancements to your base – locked doors, boarded windows, sturdy fence. But now it’s time to get serious. You need to soundproof the environment and limit any smoke and aromas when cooking to keep from attracting the undead to your doorstep. Barricades and obstacles are essential to aiding the well-armed and trained sentries in ensuring your safety when they inevitably wander along. But the most essential consideration is eliminating any points of weakness – gaps in the fence, weakened gates, and unsecured retreat avenues – all your efforts are for nothing if the weakest chain in the link breaks so easily.

This is critical for Dream Team. There is no point boasting about your 9/10/11 bye structure if you have 8 midfielders with the Round 13 bye – if anything, you’ll be sitting able bodies on your bench in the other lines. These areas of weakness have to be addressed – for me, this is how my side looks after trades this week:

TTY ByesAs you can see, I have two major focus areas that I need to constantly keep in mind. These are reasonably popular concerns: The Round 12 Defenders and the Round 13 Midfielders. The plan is to try and bring in another R12D for a R11D sometime before the byes so that I’m not too light on in defence in Round 11. After that, trading R13M’s to R11M’s becomes a massive concern; otherwise I’ll be rolling out half a team in Round 13. DPP will help, but not enough to eliminate the threat. Have you examined your side for weak spots?

4. Regular Health Checks.

The most crucial tool you have for survival is morale. For high morale, you need to feel safe. To feel safe, you need to know that the guy next to you isn’t infected, and that’s he’s not, in fact, a Zombie in the making. To ensure everyone is still human, you need regular health checks. Any signs of bites, cuts and scratches should be immediately reported, and you have to be vigilant – whether it’s an oxygen thief like Ke$ha or your beloved wife in question.

It goes without saying that there will be casualties over the MBR’s – those who owned any of Waters/Pendlebury/Hargrave during last year’s bye period can attest to that. Stay vigilant, and remember – you can’t hide these players on your bench like we’re able to in the peacetime (ie. Gibbs). You must be ruthless.

5. Continually Evolve.

Just because the majority of the population has turned into a walking mass of death and unrelenting murderous desire, doesn’t mean that you stop evolving as a community. They say that every problem is just an opportunity in disguise – consider an army of bloodthirsty zombies a huge opportunity. Learn how to fight. Learn how to hunt. Learn how to build things, fix things, invent things. Teach others to become better and the Zombies won’t stand a chance.

Yes, the Byes are a massive inconvenience for fantasy coaches to say the least, but the worst thing you can do is stagnate. Of course, the obvious way to avoid donuts is to trade R12 bye players to R11 bye players after R11, and similarly after R12. That’s clear, and it’s worked perfectly for us in the past. The trick is to improve your side in the meantime, not to simply dodge donuts with sideways trades. Check it:

As I said previously, I have 7 midfielders from the R13 bye. 4 are Premiums: Swan, Ablett, Pendlebury and Watson. Three are rookies in O’Meara, Lonergan and Crouch.

When it gets to Round 13, sure, I could trade out Swan and Watson for Joel Selwood and Trent Cotchin. Yay, I’ve dodged a couple of donuts, but hold on…  My team doesn’t get any better.

Instead, I’ll be looking to trade out two of Lonergan/O’Meara/Crouch in a classic upgrade-downgrade manoeuvre. To get the cash to bring in Cotchin or Jelwood, I’ll jump on a R11M or R12M; say a freshly debuted Tom Mitchell for the sake of argument. I still dodge all the donuts, but I walk out of this mess with one extra Premium.


  • The Engine Room

In the past, midfield Super-Premiums have been reserved a level of adoration and reverence slightly below whichever God you answer to and slightly above any act of involving Dustin Fletcher. Did you know that he’s reasonably old? Did you? They say that a single spoil from his hardened fist packs the punch of three Jericho missiles, and that he urinates crude oil.

Anyway, it could be that we’re starting to realise that these Midfield Premiums are merely human too. No longer am I trying to move Heaven and Earth to bring in a Matthew Boyd, because he’s been shade of his former self so far this year. The same goes for Joel Selwood who had just 69 on the weekend, Murphy who tainted his strong form with a 53 in Round 7, and Jobe Watson, who’s produced two scores under 70.

Below is a list of the 13 Midfielders I would have classified in the ‘Super-Premium’ bracket prior to the season. As you can, they’ve performed horribly to date. Only two of the class have actually exceeded last season’s average, Mitchell and Murphy. Neither is perfect though, with Mitchell notching three sub-tons and Murphy exhibiting a nasty basement score of 53.

Premos R9I guess my point is that we need to lower our standards a little. There is no saviour out there, no sure-thing like we’ve had in the past. And now we have two extra slots to fill… That’s one reason was I was a big advocate of bringing in Priddis last week. At $393k he was a bargain for what you’re getting – whatever you sacrifice in ceiling, you make back in spades in reliability and value. Ignoring his subbed score in Round 5, he has topped 80 in every game, not to mention that he’s averaged at least 93 points for the last four years straight. Who doesn’t want a guy like that at M8, at least until you’ve upgraded elsewhere?

With that in mind, here’s three excellent-value (Non Round 13) Premiums you should have firmly on your Radar – remembering that they aren’t the indisputable Demi-Gods they once were:

Joel Selwood

Unfortunately, Selwood has the discouraging quality that he seems to have to work hard for a lot of his points. Moderate possessions tallies for an elite midfielder hurts his scoring at times, and means that he’s prone to the odd stinker. We’ve seen that already with scores of 66 and 69 this year. However, it’s not all bad. His possession rate is the lowest it’s been in the last 6 seasons, so there’s a heap of room for improvement. Once Kelly, Chapman and Stevie J are all fit again, the load will spread and the DT points will flow easier for Jelwood. Thanks to his sub-standard score in Round 8, he should drop a little in price over the next fortnight, ripe at around $450k after Round 10. Strongly consider that week or after his Round 12 bye for not much more than $470k. You can’t see it, but there are dollar signs in my eyes right now.

Trent Cotchin

I’ve said it before – Trent Cotchin is the next Gary Ablett. It won’t be this year, but it says a lot for his ability to find the footy, and similarly, the desire for his teammates to get it into his hands. Cotch’s knee issue has resulted in a few down weeks on the trot (84, 62, 92), which is perfect for the astute bargain hunter. Like Selwood, he’ll be priced around $450k in the coming weeks – strongly consider making Cotchin the upgrade that you make between the R11 and R12 byes.

Matthew Boyd

Boyd is a longer term prospect, mainly because I want to make sure he’s back to the Boyd who’s averaged a massive 115 over the past three seasons, and not the slowing Boyd we’ve seen in his comeback from a calf injury so far. But as I alluded to earlier – it’s all about value. The more stinkers he has early, the better his price looks once he regains that elite consistency he’s famous for. With a BE of 140 this week he’s likely to cheapen, plateauing at around $460k in the next fortnight. What an absolute steal for someone that was priced at a slither under $600k to start 2013, someone that averaged 115 points per game just last year. To put it in perspective, a price of $460k roughly equates to 90 points per game at the moment – you’d think he’d smash that at his best!


  • Nek Week/Burst Fire

So I’ve rambled on a bit this week, and missed out on covering a few issues that probably deserves a bit of exposure. I’ll just hit the cliff notes with this week’s Burst Fire, but hit me up on Twitter at @Tbetta9 if you have any further issues. Good luck!

# Cox a rumoured out. Wouldn’t surprise me at all, although it would bring his run of 79 games in a row to a halt. Seems a tad inconvenient with NicNat probably a little underdone, Sinclair on the Rookie List and Lycett likely unavailable with a groin issue. However, KPP Blayne Wilson ($108,500 DEF) has been earmarked to make his debut this week, and this would definitely explain why. Obviously you would never trade Coxy out, so DPP switching him into the forward line for someone like Jarryd Roughead ($455k, 38BE, Gold Coast and Demons in next two) would be a winner.

# Troy Menzel had just 8 points in his role as the sub at the weekend, meaning that the $139k Fwd/Mid shouldn’t rise too much after his third game. This gives us an extra week to consider him if he survives that long.

# Who do you bench out of Terlich, Goodes and Vlastuin moving forward? I’d lean towards Terlich given that he plays for the hapless Demons. It could also mean that we don’t need to worry about our backlines for a few weeks – particularly if our rookies are going to put up better scores than a lot of our Premiums. coughBirchallcoughHartlettcough.

# Staker… Looks like a perfect pick-up (if he can avoid any more Final Destination-type scenarios… A big if, I know), so I wouldn’t hesitate in grabbing him this week. One tip – try getting him in the forward line. I have more faith in him than Neade/Mayes, but that’s mainly because I have zero faith in those two. It also gives you the flexibility to trade in a forward for a Stevenson/Heath/Pittard type by swinging him into the backline via the magic of DPP.



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    May 21, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    Stevenson out for Scotland or Waters?

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      If your looking for reliability then Scotland however Waters can punch out some big scores. Scotland could too but methinks those days may be behind him.

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    May 21, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    You really think Mayes has had his time in the sun for 2013?

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:05 pm

      The 2 games I saw him play I thought he played really well. Got plenty of the ball and always hit his target.
      Maybe down a bit at the moment but hell, he almost got the same score as Birchall in one quarter.

      At this minute, I’ll hold for byes and hope he gets a gig. Will be a valuable option to move into mids if needed.

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      Modern Marvels

      May 21, 2013 at 9:19 pm

      Looks safe until Rich returns i recon

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        May 22, 2013 at 9:30 am

        It would be nice if he got dropped this week so he didn’t leak anymore cash and came back during the bye rounds

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    May 21, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    Absolute ripper of an article Tbetta! Brilliant read!

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:12 pm


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    May 21, 2013 at 9:00 pm

    Worth the wait. Staker is gonna be Mayes replacement if nothing worse happens on Thursday

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Thanks Tbetta. Great write up.

    I will adopt strategy number #1 “Every Able Body”.

    4 players did not play last week:
    Pittard (3 weeks)
    Crouch (SANFL)
    Currie (3-5 weeks)
    O’hAilpin (??? not mentioned on their website – does anyone know??)

    Good bye Pittard. Hello Thurlow.
    Currie out. O’hAilpin to rucks. Staker in.

    If Cox is out = I’ll promote Blicavs.

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:52 pm

      AFL Website: The Doc says: O’hAilpin is likely to push for selection after his calf strain. Lets hope he gets named

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:20 pm

      I thought he was playing NEAFL?

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    great write up yet again:) But 1 question, why is everyone so keen on getting Staker in this week when quite a lot are still carrying some of the Portletts and there’s other cash grabs that can still be made this week with guys like Thurlow, Crouch, Setanta is he plays amongst a few other slightly higher priced rookies then bring Staker in next week?

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      I’ll wear Stevenson because he keeps getting a game.
      Pittard out. Thurlow in.
      I already have Setanta and Crouch.
      Voss gave a glowing report on Staker today on how he lifted the whole team to greater heights.
      I think his JS just got better.
      Currie out. Staker in.

  7. Damo


    May 21, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Fantastic as always TBetta!

    Just a thought, has Mayes be the 2013 Kyal Horsley?

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:06 pm


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    May 21, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    Can’t believe the effort you go to Tbetta – but very glad you do!! Great read – probably the best for the year.

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:21 pm


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    May 21, 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Love it mate, top shelf stuff yet again!

    Have heard the Cox rumours and know what’ll happen next… Roughie will get a rest too. It’s not like they’re short on FWDs / RUCs in the Happy Team.

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

      I haven’t got Roughie.

      I hope they rest him for a month……

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        May 21, 2013 at 10:32 pm

        Hehe… he’d be an ideal upgrade from Mayes to switch with Cox for me. I hope they put him through his paces till the bye and beyond!

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    To trade mayes to staker and have extra cash or to trade neade to staker

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Nice work mate.. Made up for last week Big time!

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Ripper read! You have convinced me to rid myself of Rowe. Unfortunately, this will give me a bye structure of 10/10/10, instead of my preferred 9/10/11, but I know I will be glad I did when the carnage hits.

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:23 pm

      You’ve still got a while yet, don’t stress if you’re one off.

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Good write up, thanks Tbetta.
    Pretty happy with my trades so far this week (Viney to Thurlow & Wines to Buddy) but if the Cox rumours have any truth to them, it could mess all my plans up again. Would have to look at Roughead.
    At this point I’m relying on Maric & Stevie J to both return.

    Bye-wise I’m in the same boat as Warnie, mostly ok but midfield is heavily stacked with R13 byes. And FWD line somewhat heavy on R11 byes.

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:18 pm

      Also wanted to add I’m really happy that I started Kieran Jack in Round 1. He’s been an absolute gem P.O.D except for his 1 lousy 59. Have to give most of the credit to “Lefty’s Leftfielders” however.

      At the same time I’m rather peeved at starting Watson & Cotchin who’ve both become ‘fallen premos’ that everyone else will pick up at bargain prices.

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        May 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm

        +1 to having jack from the start

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    Jaimon Yuen

    May 21, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Mayes-Roughy or Naitunui?

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      May 21, 2013 at 9:19 pm

      Maybe Roughy for short-term easy draw? GC & Melb.

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        Jaimon Yuen

        May 21, 2013 at 9:39 pm

        long term?
        more consistent

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        May 21, 2013 at 11:24 pm

        What are their BE’s? I’d be a little worried about a resting of Roughy

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Great Article!
    Last year there was a pretty cool spreadsheet app that allowed you to play around with trades over the bye rounds. Will there be another set up?

    Nix Trader spreadsheet is an awesome tool, but the one last year allowed you to do trade analysis, including DPP trades. Thats ultimately what I want to play around with. I want to determine if its worthwhile having a few DPP links around the place to even out the Bye rounds. Could compensate for you having too many defenders fwds or too many mids for one particular round.

    Was thinking of making one myself, but if I recall the one made last year was superior quality.

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Thurlow or Webster for D8?

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      Jaimon Yuen

      May 21, 2013 at 9:17 pm


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      May 21, 2013 at 9:26 pm

      dunno…ring em and see who’s keen on tacos….

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        May 22, 2013 at 12:52 am

        lol, i see what u did their

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    Dustin Deledio

    May 21, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    James Kelly can suck it up and stop being a keyboard warrior.

    Firstly he jumped and initiated the contact, granted he had so much momentum that it was difficult to stop, but the intent was there. Quite evidently so.

    Darren Jolly’s bump on Matthew Stokes was different, although he did initiate the contact, there was no better alternative. It was simply a collision where the bigger player looks guilty, if it were Stokes who bumped Jolly people would be praising him and screaming things like “COURAGE!” and “Brave act by Matty Stokes!’

    bottom line Kelly was found guilty and whinging like a little prick when you have been suspended in the past isn’t getting you anywhere.

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      Blue boys

      May 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm

      Was interesting to hear with the Kelly hit that the fact he left the ground never came up as a reason for him being suspended/cited.
      The main difference i saw was the fact Kelly was always going to bump whereas Jolly went to tackle and had to bump/brace for contact after Stokes got rid of the ball.
      To be honest, Jolly did nothing wrong. Kelly maybe a bit by leaving the ground (but that never got raised). The overall contact % of body vs head seems very very similar in both though.

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        May 21, 2013 at 11:28 pm

        google ‘MRP AFL Round 7’
        There’s a really good video series that explains WTF the Tribunal are thinking and their justification. Fairly sure they mentioned him leaving the ground.
        Both were good bumps, Kelly had intent. Jolly more of a reflex.

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      May 21, 2013 at 10:02 pm

      You obviously grew up in the 2000’s cause you don’t have a clue what your on about, Kelly’s bump was fantastic, jollys was good too. Maybe you should take up lawn balls and leave the men to play footy.

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        May 21, 2013 at 10:56 pm

        Go lick a dick rick you little prick. What his point was why bring it up again on twitter? He is only seeking sympathy and attention, what’s done is done, get over it. I would like to shirtfront you on the footy field.

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          May 22, 2013 at 7:12 am

          I hooe you rhymed that for a laugh, no one takes a key board warrior seriously when you start with that. And you wanna shirt front him? Watch out!

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      May 22, 2013 at 12:37 am

      That’s awesome mate. You spanked him for being a keyboard warrior by being…ugh….a keyboard warrior!

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    great read thank you mate..”Complaining about Swanny’s form this year would be like Ashton Kutcher whinging about Mila Kunis’ cooking.” hehehe

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      May 21, 2013 at 10:35 pm

      Yeah, that’s right up there

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:29 pm

      I like the Nickle-hack reference.

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    May 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    This article is going to cost me significantly in the rankings, as it is the bucket of icy water over the heads of the incompetent.

    Nicely done, perhaps too much so :)

  20. Stuart


    May 21, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    Great read, cheers Tbetta

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    Blue boys

    May 21, 2013 at 9:56 pm

    Epic segment Tbetta, almost a double version. :-)
    Mayes is the interesting one……the next Sam Dwyer anyone?? Has scoring potential just some game time to bounce back.

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    May 21, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    Stirring stuff Tbetta! Gibbs > Hartlett is up there with the worst trades of my life!

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      May 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm

      Hartlett outscored Gibbs by 120ish in that time mate, so not the worst (I made it too!). Ellis would have been better, but hindsight is a wonderful thing

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      May 22, 2013 at 3:20 pm

      Dawson wouldve been better than Hartlett you muppet Simon

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    May 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Deledio vs Jack…Jack suits me for the bye rounds but i really like Deledio

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    May 21, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Personally, I’m seriously looking forward to the byes. They really do seperate the pro’s from the schmo’s.

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:01 pm

      Agreed. I know quite a few ppl in my league wont bother with thinking about bye strategy, cos “its too difficult”.

      Saying that, LTIs, and omissions may lead to virtually no strategy anyway, and many of us might be dodging donuts.

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        May 22, 2013 at 1:22 am

        I’m somewhere in the middle. I’m planning for it, but LTI’s etc each week tend to force me out of planned trades and into damage control mode. I might cop a donut or two but should be in better shape than all the “its too hard” scrubs.

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    dirk diggler

    May 21, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Tbetta..awesome read.
    Isn’t Callum Sinclar at WCE injured? I think he got injured in training last week..didn’t play for Subiaco….so if Lycett is down…perhaps Cox wont be rested?

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      May 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

      I thought Sinclair was back on the rokie list, could be wrong, buts thats what I read

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    May 21, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Looking to trade Daisy out.. but for who? Stokes or Robbo or a better option? Cheers.
    FWD: Rockliff, Cox, JJK, NRiewoldt, Monfries, Thomas??? (Mayes, Macaffer)

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      May 21, 2013 at 11:32 pm

      Damn.. Very handy forwards. Personally I’m happy to hold Daisy as long as I have cover.. Mayes should drop in price so that’s more urgent to me.
      Plus waiting to bring in a premium closer to the Byes is a little safer

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        May 22, 2013 at 1:18 am

        The thing with holding Daisy is that you’re committing to trade him another week, in which you may have more pressing matters to deal with. I’m getting rid of him while I can.

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      May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am

      Buddy has hit rock bottom this week, I did Daisy -> Buddy myself.
      Although there are still concerns about him staying in his current sh*t form. Just gonna take the punt. He still has two easy games coming up.

  27. Mark


    May 21, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    The Ashton kutcher line was awesome.

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    May 21, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    Brilliant article tbetta! Looking at a 11/10/9 if currie and rowe were playing so gotta sort that out asap! Roughhead and staker look like the options to go with..

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    May 22, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Would have been good to know at the start of the season for farks sake.

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    May 22, 2013 at 8:27 am

    Any good downgrade options for Mayes besides staker?

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    May 22, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Get rid of Neade or Mayes first?

    Who’s the best premo upgrade: Pendlebury, Deledio or J. Selwood?

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      May 22, 2013 at 11:39 am

      Neade first…..very slim chance of achieving his 77 BE. He hasn’t scored that many points in a game yet (75 highest). Mayes is BE is quite high too (94), but he has passed that score twice this year (111 and 95), highly unlikely to pass that score, but I’m holding Mayes at least for this week….hopefully avoids the green vest this week – he produced 31 pts from 1 qtr game time, so definitely capable of scoring big!!

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    May 22, 2013 at 10:53 am

    In a way I’m happy to keep having the choice taken out of my hands. In the lead up to Byemageddon, I have 2 bandaids on my bench: Varcoe (he was my early risky point of difference – all risk, no point) and Curran (honest mistake). They have to go. There is really only Staker to bring in up fwd, and I’m going to go with Thurlow down back. I still have some Portlets to shed, but LTIs take priority. Didn’t even have to think about it.

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    May 22, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    Neade set to miss this week according to AFL app. Rest him during indigenous week? Bit rough

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    May 22, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    what upgrade to do?
    blair to nick riewoldt
    omeara to pendlebury
    or goodes to gibbs?/shaw/birchell

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    May 22, 2013 at 6:29 pm

    Who to trade Matt Jones (M9)to. Brent Harvey or Allen Christensen? Must be a round 12 DPP – Unable to buy Bartel falling a few thousand dollars short. Bye structure for mids is 0 – 4 – 6 enabling me to hopefully play 10 midfielders in the the first round of byes with the assistance of substituting Rockcliffe and Mayes.

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    May 22, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    Can only play a maximum of 8 midfielders even if all 10 are available, might wanna spread that around, just a rhought

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    May 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Probably Blair to riewoldt.

    I’d hang onto o’meara and goodes for a few weeks yet.

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    May 22, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    Thinking of Mayes > lonegan

    And then Stevenson to thurlow. Still got pittard should I trade him out instead or will he be back soon?

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