G’day legends!
We’ve set up our very own Patreon page! We’ve been doing our thing since 2007 and have loved every minute of it.
We want to produce content and interact with the community. By having a Patreon page, we can bring some of the many ideas we have to life and continue to be part of a great community of like-minded legends.
Shout us a pot
On this $5 per month level you’ll have access to:
- Sunday night live stream – After the last game has finished. We will fire up the stream and take it back to the old school! Fantasy, fun and frothies!
- Rollin’ 22 – Roy will be updating his best 22 each week for our patrons. This will hit DT Talk once a month, but you’ll get a weekly update with some trade commentary from Roy.
- Pre-season Playbook – We have created a pdf that has handy info for coaches to print out as they do their last minute cramming this pre-season. It features club best 23s (the starting 22 and the projected sub) for round one, key stats from last season, three players in focus from each club, the Scale of Hardness and a stats page which includes the pre-season numbers.
- Open League – Join our open league which will see the Top 5 coaches after round 24 walk away with some cash! $500 for first, $400 for second, $300 for third, $200 for fourth and $100 for fifth. You must be a member for three months to be eligible for the Open League prizes.
Shout us a pint
On this $10 per month level you’ll have access to all of the above PLUS:
- Calvin’s Captains – This year Calvin will be dropping his Captains article on Patreon early. You will be the first to see his handy work on Tuesday evenings. This year an abridged version will feature on DT Talk, so for the full analysis which is bigger and better than before, you will need to be on Patreon.
- Mid-week Podcast – Every Wednesday night we will be recording and publishing a podcast, exclusive for this tier, which will feature the key information coaches need to know, our trade plans and answer to your questions which you can submit via Patreon.
- Jaiden Popowski’s Spreadsheet – We have teamed up with our favourite Fantasy stats guru to bring you a spreadsheet to have a heap of handy information in one place. You will be able to download this early in the week. There is also a special pre-season edition available full of data to help you pick your squad.
- Scale on Hardness – Calvin will be updating his infamous Scale of Hardness weekly, going up on DT Talk monthly. You will be able to catch this every Thursday before the round starts.
- Knockout – Remember the eliminator? Of course you do! We are bringing this back for the coaches on this tier. It will start at approximately round six (TBA) and if you’re the last coach standing, you will win $500 with the runner-up pocketing $250. You must be a member at this level for three months to be eligible for the Knockout prizes.
There will be more details to come on our content – including a first special LIVE STREAM on Thursday 9 March from 9pm AEDT featuring our team reveals.
Thanks for being part of the ride! This will be a lot of fun.
Cheers,
Calvin, Warnie and Roy
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So we won’t be able to see any of the content above for free anymore?
You’ll still get a Calvin’s Captains each week, similar to what you’ve experienced here. There will be a BIGGER version on our Patreon.
Scale of Hardness and Rollin’ 22 will appear here monthly (which is about what it was previously), but they will be weekly with some extra insights for Patreon.
Then there’s new stuff that was never part of our content:
– Jaiden’s spreadsheet
– Our pre-season playbook
– Sunday night live stream
– extra mid-week podcast
– cash prizes for open league and the new Knockout concept
If you don’t want to be part of it, that’s absolutely fine! Your experience won’t drop off here. This community is for those who want to shout us a beer a month and get quite a bit back in return for it.
See this as a bonus (which is what it is) rather than taking anything away. The dollars will help us justify the time we put into the site and the Patreon content. We want to create stuff! This gives us an avenue to do it.
What stuff do you want to create Warnie and get the bucks in your back pocket for?
Is it April 1st?
Good on you Warnie! You guys give so much time and content to the community and cop a lot of abuse for your efforts. You thoroughly deserve to get a bit more back.
I agree. It seems INCREDIBLY difficult to serve up content week after week that is trying to predict the future to an audience that (to a small but very vocal decree) loves to criticise you when you get it wrong. We all get it wrong a lot of the time so why be so critical of people who are trying to help you? It annoys me a lot but these guys keep going and, amazingly, stay GENUINELY happy and good natured to keep doing what they do. That’s not easy at all. I sure couldn’t do it.
I am enormously impressed that they don’t let the critics get them down and will be happy to support them in any way I can, like this.
I hate that I’m paying more to play a game I’m mediocre at, but hey, the boys are probably my favorite podcast to listen to so why not add more content for my weekly commute.
You boys deserve a few $$ for all the effort you put in. Now buying you a pint a month and looking forward to getting knocked out of the elimination league in round 1! lol
NP aka ‘errol guldens minions’ aka my only POD was ruined by errol’s practice match score
My December 2022 star was Constable, now his anonymity has gone!!
I’m happy to say that Charlie was one of the first players I picked in a UF draft keeper league back in 2019, lets hope he makes the most of his opportunity if he finally gets some games.
3 to 5 games and a price rise of $100k and I will happily off load him for an incoming rook! Callous, but that is life!
Great idea Warnie – I’m on board!
It’s great that you guys are starting a Patreon and I hope it works out but don’t you guys get paid by afl fantasy to make content? Or is that unpaid? I’m hoping this website doesn’t go the way of many other websites and end up behind a pay wall.
I’m not paying any money just because they are getting greedy
I’m just broke, hence trying to win a free car xD
If it was about being greedy, we would be putting energy into something other than Fantasy footy…
Yep – we get paid by the AFL to create content for them. We want to do more, they don’t want it/have funds for it. We provide plenty here for free – and will continue to do so (to be fair, we will probably have more content up here than last few seasons this year)… we wanted to add extra stuff for those willing to jump on!
While I understand you guys need some recompense for your great services to the world of Fantasy and footy in general , I am just not a fan of Patreon , in fact , I loathe it . If I joined all the Patreons my ‘ friends ‘ are promoting for their respective projects , I would rapidly become broke . How is one person’s/ groups Patreon more deserving than anothers ? Well , there are just too many of them . I assumed you guys would be getting sponsorship $s , particularly from the betting agencies . You should be putting the bite on them harder .
The beauty is that it is optional. Your experience won’t diminish here or via our AFL stuff. THere’s HEAPS there. This is for people who want more and are in a position to support us. No one is forcing you to do it! We believe we are offering plenty of bang for buck. But totally up to you.
Like a lot of things, I choose which streaming services I have – I prioritise what I like and what works for me. It’s not because i don’t like the others, there’s only so much I can consume.
We don’t get a heap out of other places (eg. no betting stuff for us here currently – that is wrapped up on the AFL side of things).
Thanks for checking it out, but if it isn’t for you, that’s sweet.
I think we understand most things about Patreon and why people ‘ use ‘ it . Already , with Calvin’s Capts , we are getting a reduced quality effort on DT Talk . Sure , you said it would be , but 5 top selections with no other data is quite frankly a bit sh*t . It is we loyal followers who have given you the opportunity to try and make more $s . Nobody is saying you should try to and you deserve it , but what irks me is that , using C’sCs as an example , we loyal followers are now getting way less . It’s like a subtle form of bribery . If you want more ( or as much as we used to get ) show us the colour of your money . Disappointing boys , Disappointing !
As someone who probably won’t get a subscription I can’t understand why people are complaining about this. There is already so much free and excellent content on this site
Helmet Brayshaw or Jordan Dawson or anyone else as D2 to Doc
Dawson for me.
I can’t see many people willing to pay for this
Imagine writing three comments on this using three pseudonyms to be negative. Mate, it’s ok if you don’t want to be part of it. Just ignore it!
I support the DTT boys desire to make money from their efforts. Fair enough. They were fortunate enough to be recognised and rewarded by the AFL for the community they’ve played a part in building. Fair enough. While they were the figureheads, they weren’t/aren’t the sole contributors. It is arguable that the content provided by others, which they have benefited from, is a significant or overwhelming part of the AFL Fantasy community.
My question is, are the people who contribute to the site also going to rewarded? Do the articles writers receive compensation? Do the posters who significantly contribute to the involvement and discussion of articles and content, also receive a cut?
There has been a clear drop off in content, and quality of content since I have returned in the last 12 months. I do not see the amount, or quality of content improving from here on in, as a result of compensation. The articles provided by volunteers has clearly reduced. I think the quality feedback provided by community members will also reduce.
The AFL Fantasy community has significantly died off over the years, and I believe the drop off will continue further, given the apparent desire for monetisation. I don’t think DTT currently has the quality of content, other than what is provided by community contributors, or official AFL content, to justify also being paywalled.
Be careful what you wish for lads. This site was pumping 10 years ago, with content and participation. As was AFL Fantasy. It’s not so much the case now. Isolating content according to P2P. may just be ineveitably be cutting your nose off to spite your face.
If content here is being further monetised, why should significant contributors to the content continue to do so for free?
tend to disagree teams off late very similar due to flood of content preferred it when there wasnt as much content around
Interesting questions thrown up.
People who contribute here are rewarded. I don’t want to go into specifics as it isn’t my place nor should it be your worry, but we have also facilitated opportunities for others and have always been a very open place for anyone wanting to have their say; including people getting a leg up promoting their own content (we have great contributions from people who have their own podcasts, etc). Plenty, like we have done – and continue to do, is for the love of it. I’m not exactly sure how we reward people who contribute to discussion of articles. Maybe that is the truckload of content they can engage in.
IMO – the Fantasy community is thriving, but like a lot of stuff, it has shifted away from websites like this. If we had our time again, we would have been better off building some form of community platform – maybe forum style with memberships – to keep it going as it may have been 10 years ago. But with Facebook and Twitter being a much easier place to converse due it the wide-reach, it has taken away from what the community is here.
Content has changed as well. Podcasts, live streams, short form on social, etc. has taken over from things old men like me were used to. We have evolved. Our numbers on different content like that is going well. 20k people listening to podcasts is far more than what we get on articles, etc.
As for the Patreon. The community there will be great fun. We can be more responsive for questions for a group of engaged people. Doing our Sunday night live stream is something completely new. As I’ve mentioned previously, everything on the Patreon is an add on.
The world is a changing place. We have worked our arses off and there are people who are getting a great earn out of this… we have probably made some mistakes along the way which has limited our opportunity, but we are having a crack.
I appreciate you taking the time and caring about us and the site. I am being honest with that. We have toyed with this for a few years now and have got to a place where we can commit to doing more stuff.
If you don’t want to get on board the Patreon, that’s ok. But plenty have and will hopefully enjoy the content. If your experience on DT Talk isn’t what you want it to be, I’m sorry. We’ve had to evolve … and there are a truckload of people out there creating content now. Things have changed along the way (including our lives… dramatically).
Ignore the haters, Warnie. You are my favourite Trader (apologies to your 2 team mates). Keep up the good work on this site and with your new venture.
Wouldn’t you rather set a $10 note on fire every month instead of getting advice from guys whose career best finish was in 2009?
There is a fair bit of anger being expressed lately. The way I see it is if you don’t want to pay $5/10 each month, then don’t. I personally have no intentions of signing up. I have been playing this game for longer than I care to remember, I have never won a car, but I have won lots of cash/prizes/leagues over the years and I have never let the traders influence any of my decisions.
You see, it isn’t just about advice… but you knew that already.
It’s totally ok that people don’t want to be part of it! There’s no begging or us even thinking it’s a must-have investment. It’s an add on for those who enjoy our content (which there is a range – and also some useful stuff from Jaiden that we couldn’t possibly do).
To the knockers
Lots off free “advice” on offer from a decent number of websites, podcasts, twitter and even instagram(!)
Accept what they are offering is access to data you may not have. You are then required to make your own choices.
You are also free to research all data yourself
I do fantasy afl for fun and enjoyment. I also like entertainment. Here the Traders excel. I am happy to join their patreon for that reason alone.
Warnie great reply above.
Yeah fully agree – I love the entertainment value so I’m more than happy to pay the small $ contribution to help fund it – like many other things I might do in life eg audiobook, streaming, gaming or whatever.
If others don’t see the value in it – that’s all good too – we all value different things. So not sure there’s really a debate here tbh – just make a choice & play on either way 👍🏼
This whole Patreon debate is causing as much anger and resentment as the news that Port Adelaide will be allowed to wear the black and white striped heritage guernsey against the Vrows in one match!
Whoops. Crows, NOT, Vrows!!
bring back the bars whoo hoo
I agree, PAFC. I lived around the corner from Alberton Oval for over 20 years and love that jumper.
I will definitely be cheering on the Crows during these matches. Black and white stripes are for Collingwood alone and anathema on anyone else.
Black and white, white and black, all the same to me.
Dulcify, they are completely opposite!! Bahahahahaha
Phteven, I have solved the jumper problem. Collingwood wears black with white stripes, Port Adelaide wears white with black stripes. Easy Peary!
When I lived in England there were 3 teams in the EPL that were all wearing black and white. They just had a different kit when they played each other. Seemed like a simple solution.
to simple for collingwood fans octopus
‘Too’ – and you are making fun of Collingwood fans
Daics, there should also be a capital C for Collingwood! Ps. I am a Port Adelaide supporter!!
chill daics go visit joffa and share a bag of lollies BRING BACK THE BARS
Phteven, I am used to forgiving the lack of capitalisation nowadays, because the younger generations have been too used to texting in all lower case. I cannot claim to be overly bright myself, as I am a Collingwood supporter, but PAFC has shown that Collingwood are not alone in having poorly edumacated fans.
Daics, I am a former English teacher (not a teacher from England) and I see the minutest spelling and grammatical errors everywhere. My favourite is signwriters putting apostrophes everywhere as they have no idea where to put them! My edumacation standards are too high for the modern world, even if I have been a Port Adelaide supporter since the mid sixties!
Phteven, that’s cool. I used to manage an ESL program in Vietnam after getting my CELTA. I assessed English more often than I actually taught it. I was a Maths and Business teacher in a previous career. I notice errors more than ever now. So, in a way, I wish I had not done my CELTA.
I’ll pay attention to reviews and feedback on the website to see if it’s worth it in 2024. GL
sorry to be that guy… I just want to join the party and give you guys some cash and enjoy the extra content. Is there a ‘Dummy’s guide’ to get signed up? I created the patron account but now I’m cueless.. anyone?
btw can’t believe the comments about cash grab – love what these guys offer!
Thanks, Nev.
Hopefully it’s relatively easy. If you head to: https://www.patreon.com/dttalk you can choose the tier that best suits you. Once in, hitting up that site will give you all the content relevant to the tier.
Thanks for the link Warnie, looking forward to enjoyng the content with my pint shout! With your guys help I spent 20 of 22 rounds in the top 100 last season for the first time… and I am still positive about this year even though I’m struggling. Cheers mate
Hi Warnie,
I have not been a patreon member with you guys yet. I’m wondering if you have any plans during the offseason. When would be a good time to join? I’m not trying to be silly but since I have no chance of improving my score this season I don;t see the value in it currently. But I would love to be a member next year. If you can convince me otherwise I’d be happy to join sooner. The sort of content I’m looking for is to get a leg up on the competition next year, the same as a lot of people are. Thank you in advance if you decide to answer. Cheers
We’ll have some stuff in the pre-season (start date TBA). We will have an expanded pre-season content schedule next season as this year we launched a fortnight before R1.
If you sign up now, we are hitting pause at R24 and you will get bonus off-season content for free (mostly fun, but also some advice and hopefully stuff that gets you off to a better start in the pre-season).
Totally up to you. There will obviously be stuff happening on here as well.