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Roos v Saints – Scratch Match Fantasy notes

Miller Time’s takeaways from the North Melbourne v St Kilda practice match.

In December last year you’d look at this match up, and watch the saints while gleefully lolling at the roos as they got touched up a bit. But of recent times the Roos have suddenly become relevant. The glut of mid pricers see’s Cunnington, Zeiball and Stephenson all interesting watches, throw in evergreen draft ( dont even think about classic ) ruckman and Cal’s pet Goldenstien, plus highly rated draftee’s like Will Phillips, Keeper leagues mate Tom Powell and Lew’s boy Lavazza ( or similar, I really need a coffee )  and suddenly its whirling durbish of fantasy intrigue.

The saints fantasy stocks however have been hit worse than bitcoin after a Elon Musk tweet ( Dogecoin ftw ). Everyone’s favourite F1 / backup ruck Rowan Marshal is down, Seb Ross is wandering a warehouse in Moorabbin wondering what crate he stored his form in, and Brad Crouch is busy ironing his short that says “I told you I’m just a fantasy tease”. What they really need is cheap and interesting rookie talent. You might say they have a HIGH need for MORE of that right about meow.

Injured / not playing

Saints: Marshal, Geary, Zak Jones, Ryan Brynes, Gresham – Didnt play
Roos : Phillips, Polec, Goldstein not playing – unsure if injured , Comben, Dumont, Bonar, McGuinness. Cunnington out – concussion protocol (Sorry Fantasy Fans – yes, I was saying Boo urns)

Result

Beautiful sunny day down at Arden St. The kind that makes you long for suburban footy. Given this you’d think North would really show up at their spiritual home and give their long-suffering fans some forlorn hope for the season. You’d be wrong. North were, for the most part, pretty insipid, and got smashed. Not that the score matters for fantasy or in the pre-season. But if you’re a north fan, well, maybe you’re not any more. On to the fantasy!

Oh just before I do, special mention to the camera man. He was no good. So if I missed things, it’s because of that. Also Rowan Marshal did not shut up. Yes he had some good yarns and he sold a lot of hope to the saints members, but I would have loved to have known what was happening on the field.

Fantasy Relevance ( or lack thereof )

Jack Higgins (FWD, $563K) – Pretty all round game by the small forward with stints through a middle. He’s the expensive side of mid pricing, but if he does it again next week, get your wallet out.

Jack Bytel (MID, $299k) – Really liked the look of Byte’s game, I mean he didn’t get 1024 possessions, so it wasn’t mega (DRUMS), but handy.

Jaidyn Stephenson (FWD, $470k) – Took a while to work into it, but in the end had good mid time and seemed to be everywhere. Get on board. Also, AFL FANTASY runner up and one of the small handful of people who beat me in 2020 @ShaunLessBrown is liking his role, so yeah. I reckon if you put it in your pipe and smoke it, it’ll be tasty.

Paddy Ryder (RUC, $575k) – He played weaker opposition, but he looked good, and got ball everywhere including a fair bit forward. Could get DPP, might be a sneaky cheaper ruck option? Don’t blame me if it doesn’t come off, but I’ll take the credit if it does.  He did seem to rotate off the bench with old mate Paul Hunter (RUC, $170k ) – That could well be of interest.

Jack Zieball (FWD, $644k) – His role looked fantasy friendly, but it’s all defence, could that mean DPP later ? That’ll be handy. Taking kick ins too. Had a good game, but I’m still baulking at his price.

Mason Wood (FWD, $435K) – 4 goals, big presence in the forward line along with Max King. You couldn’t do it, though could you? Maybe stream in draft.

Tom Powell (MID, $246k) – Went bang early, tailed off a bit late, but the club rate my highly and he’s got to be close to a shoe in for round 1. Throw in a handful of CBAs and some silk and there’s a future star there.

Charlie Lazzaro / Lavazza / Lizardo / Lizardman / Big and or Thin Lizzy / The boys are back in town (which in norths case, they weren’t, not even in the suburbs, maybe they got stuck in Kyneton, wouldn’t surprise, I don’t trust VLINE) (MID, $200k) – One to watch, looks like a lot of potential, if he gets named round 1 chuck him in your team or on your bench. Oh, and try to remember what his name actually is, I’ve struggled with that.

Tom Campbell (RUC/FWD $223k) – He’s not a bad ruck. They didn’t say why Goldstein didn’t play, but if that continues Campbell’s a lock for your forward line (Flynn’s obviously at R3)

Jimmy Webster (DEF, $316k) – Got a lot of ball, there’s talk he’s up against a few like Highmore for round 1 though. But I’m backing him in.

Dan Butler (FWD, $575k) – Got a lot of ball late. Stream for draft against the weaker teams?

Dom Tyson (MID, $410k) – He’s not dead! He even played a bit in the middle and had some CBAs. I wouldn’t buy him in a pink fit, but surely Dom off #3 is a goer.

Cam Zurhar (FWD, $472k) – looking good, bit of midfield clock, can find the ball. There’s a lot of guys in the forward line at this price, but you could do worse. Probably more consistent than a key.

Tom Highmore (DEF, $182k) – This kid highly rated in fantasy. Not by this guy! SHOCK! People don’t like that, but if Stevie Fizz has taught me anything it’s that you’re nothing without a hot take. I reckon he’s a player, but I’m not convinced he’s a fantasy player. Can take an intercept though. All that said, if he’s in for round 1 you play him and bank some sweet cash for a bit. Maybe don’t touch in draft or keeper though.

Luke McDonald (DEF, $692k) – Looked right at home, got plenty of ball and took a lot of kick ins ( seemed shared between him and Zieball ), and given the Roo’s could be bad this year more points are coming his way.  At 692 he’s an option if you can’t reach your Laird and Stewarts, or if Zac Williams is not everything Roy has sold his house for.

Points of Caution:

Norths mids/fwds – Norths midfielders and forwards got owned. I can’t sugar coat that, sure it’s only preseason and they had a few out, but it’s also only St kilda. It’s what Frontline’s Mike Moore would call “A worrying trend”.

Saints small forwards – Saints have heaps of small forwards, and they seem to be all going alright. Higgins, Billings, Butler, Battle, plus the bigger guys of King and Wood. Those points can’t go everywhere. If I owned saints’ forwards, and given the rate of change in my side, I possibly will, I’d be very concerned about consistent scoring.

The race for Round one.

Lots of kids in this game, they can’t all make round one. I’d be surprised if both ThinLiz and Tom Powell made it in. Tom was better early but then Lazareous did better late. Touch and go, although Tom is higher rated. Next week is a must watch here. There’s also talk Highmore isn’t in round 1, maybe he’ll be in the race with Webster who was also good. Saints spots will be harder than north spots to find so that’s a real doozy of a pickle.

Midfield time

There were more decent mids out there than in my fridge when I buy a 30 can box of great northern super crisp (mmm crisp ) . Steele was Steele (he’s good but can you pay his uber price ?), Hill and F.T.Crouch looked good and well worth keeping an eye on and Simpkin has not slowed down from his last start burning of Roy.

Medical room

Max King fell hard but seems ok
Bytel copped a finger injury early but returned and got more ball – mmm midfield ball , yumbo

Other maybe less fantasy relevant notes
– James Frawley looks good
– Bytel copped a small finger injury but seems fine
– Souva-Larkey is a tier one nickname
– Max King is a big unit. Can take a mark.
– Seb Ross may have draft value ! Half back role could be interesting
– Aaron Hall is still alive. He had 1 good qtr
– Talk of Hunter clark getting more mid time

CBAs

lots for the usual bunch: Simpkin, Steele, Hill, Crouch etc but a few for the likes of Bytel, Stephenson, Higgins, Powell, Lizardguts etc

Signing off

That’s all she wrote friends. Hope you managed to find a nugget, or at least some popcorn chicken ( no tendies here ). Until next time, which I believe is tomorrow in the Melbourne v Richmond game. Hit me up on twitter @time_millar if you want me to follow your boys. Or if you really like fantasy hat #5 selfies. I have one or two of those.

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36 Comments

36 Comments

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    LW

    February 25, 2021 at 7:20 pm

    Goldstein was missing due to sore ribs but will play the practice match against Hawthorn.

    Jed Anderson is another name to add to the list of those that didn’t play today for NMFC. Apart from Simpkin they were resting (some forced) their entire midfield.

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    Tigers3peat

    February 25, 2021 at 7:22 pm

    Is phillips injured? Anyone know why he didn’t play?

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      Dan

      February 25, 2021 at 7:59 pm

      Roos rate Powell higher. Only 3 mids allowed at CBA’s

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    Euman

    February 25, 2021 at 7:24 pm

    I’m slowly going off Stephenson he’s awkward price in an average team who may get smashed each week. Attend all the CBA’s you want but if your team ain’t got the ball then it’s pointless. Ok if your $290k not $470 just my thoughts anyway

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      Chrisco

      February 25, 2021 at 7:31 pm

      Tell that to Simpkin

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      Daniel

      February 25, 2021 at 8:00 pm

      Imma get him because I don’t want to pay up for Rozee or Caldwell & have Cameron.

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        Mighty Puds

        February 25, 2021 at 8:31 pm

        I actually swapped him to Caldwell today and already have Rozee, think both will be more reliable than Stephenson though he remains on the watchlist

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    Vom

    February 25, 2021 at 7:25 pm

    Abortion of a summary

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      Sir Fartypants

      February 25, 2021 at 7:58 pm

      I reckon…

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    Sam Miller

    February 25, 2021 at 7:47 pm

    Summary was worse than the Roos performance

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      Cino

      February 25, 2021 at 7:55 pm

      Just out what interest, what kind of things do you like to see in a game summary ? Im sure if you let the authors know they can make more targeted summaries in the future

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    Scott

    February 25, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    Good stats and insight, too many jokes and funny comments.
    Almost exited this article multiple times for this reason.

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    Left handed spinner

    February 25, 2021 at 8:21 pm

    The article has more variation than an Indian wicket on day 5

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      pendles4brownlow

      March 1, 2021 at 12:19 am

      Day 2

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    Cino

    February 25, 2021 at 8:30 pm

    Thanks for your feedback. I’m sure the author appreciates constructive feedback and can make a few less gags next time

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      Nate

      February 26, 2021 at 6:44 am

      Mate, this piece is riddled with woeful spelling, grammar and formatting errors. Jokes are fine but this wouldn’t pass a Year 10 English exam. Really, really bad.

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    Beej

    February 25, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    I’m sorry but this was hard to read. Trying too hard IMO but maybe others liked it.

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    Fred

    February 25, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Glad I watched it and didn’t rely on that dribble

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    Adam

    February 25, 2021 at 8:42 pm

    Awesome article!!! Smashed it out of the park with jokes and summary.

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    Steven

    February 25, 2021 at 8:47 pm

    The absolute drivel this article contains is extrodinary! FInd a new day job I say…

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      Paddy Wow

      February 25, 2021 at 9:59 pm

      Is that you Fred…or William…or Steven??

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    William

    February 25, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    Can we not let 10 year olds do the summaries ? Thanks in advance. That hurt my eyes.

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    tom

    February 25, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    Who wrote this? They should not be allowed to ever do one again, holy shit that was appalling

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    Brown Stain

    February 26, 2021 at 2:13 am

    Probably the most useless article ever written

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    Pete

    February 26, 2021 at 3:03 am

    Not sure what’s more insipid, the roos performance or this article

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    SB

    February 26, 2021 at 6:31 am

    Kyron Hayden is surely worth a mention with his high CBA attendance?

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    Brendon

    February 26, 2021 at 9:54 am

    Wow this article is crap!! I read comments first windering what people were talking about and yep. SHIT!!

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    Taezer

    February 26, 2021 at 12:56 pm

    Wow, I didn’t realize how many d!ckheads are in here. Criticizing a free article written by a community writer for the benefit of the fantasy community. Whether it was the best article or not, don’t have to be a dick about it.
    I appreciate it. I couldn’t watch the game and I’ve learnt enough from the write up to help make decisions regarding my team.

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      Tez

      February 26, 2021 at 5:47 pm

      I would guess most are probably the same person with too much time on their hands

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        K

        February 26, 2021 at 6:05 pm

        And shit on their chin

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        Flyin Ryan

        February 27, 2021 at 12:38 am

        I really don’t think people care about a poorly written article enough to do that mate. And for what it’s worth, this is not great.

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      William

      February 27, 2021 at 6:36 pm

      There’s probably plenty of people willing to do it. It was a rubbish article and people are entitled to their opinion. Whether you like it or not.

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        tez

        March 5, 2021 at 1:25 pm

        Then you watch the game and write one champ. If people cannot appreciate someone giving up their time to do something for the community then don’t bother posting…just my entitled opinion though

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      pendles4brownlow

      March 1, 2021 at 12:22 am

      Taezer – I agree

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    Macca

    February 28, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    “North’s midfielders and forwards got owned. I can’t sugar coat that, sure it’s only preseason and they had a few out, but it’s also only St Kilda.”

    So, they would have got flogged harder if it was Collingwood, Carlton, Geelong or Essendon?

    Where did the Saints finish last year?

    Oh, that’s right – 5th!!!

    Love the amount of dis-respect and yeah, let’s keep letting St Kilda fly under the radar!

    And in case anyone wanted the score – which was completely left out – North 6.13 39, lost to St Kilda 22.8 140, by the odd 15 goals!

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