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Tbetta’s Bullets: Round 9

As a DT community, we’ve been throwing the term ‘carnage’ around a little too loosely lately. Round 9 wasn’t carnage – it wasn’t even that destructive really. What hurt our scores was a league-wide lull in scoring, rather than a select few popular DTers who rained on our parade. I review Round 9, look towards Round 10 and check out everything in between. Check it out!

  • You Call Yourself a Premium?

As a DT community, we’ve been throwing the term ‘carnage’ around a little too loosely lately. Round 9 wasn’t carnage – it wasn’t even that destructive really. What hurt our scores was a league-wide lull in scoring, rather than a select few popular DTers who rained on our parade. With the rookies, we expect scores of a Katy-Perry nature. No, it was our ‘Premiums’ that let us down in Round 9. All you have to do it check out Calvin’s Captains this week:

Just to clarify, I’m not bagging the Irish Pirate’s choices – I’m saying that these 5 guys were supposed to be some of the most reliable high-scorers this week, and could only manage an average of 94 between them. Add in Boyd’s 111, Watson’s 91, Rockliff’s 76 and Mitchell’s 89 and it’s no wonder scores our scores suffered!

It’s pretty hard to call par in a week like this, and probably a bit pointless, but 2100 would have slotted you into the top 20,000 scores for the week. I’d be pretty happy with that.


  • The Mid-year Draft

Every week a random thread gets picked up by the national media, and this week it was the Mid-Season Draft concept. While I could make some profound comment on how the media are a pack of fickle vultures, I’ll keep it DT related: How cool would that be?!

From an AFL stand-point, there’s hardly a downside. Contract issues would need to be worked through with the AFLPA (half-year guaranteed contracts with a second-year option, etc.), timing of the event (would need its own weekend) and the determination of the Draft order could be tricky. But the benefits are huge; it adds another spectacle (clearly playing to Demetriou’s ego), it increases interest and exposure of the VFL and the other second-tier Leagues and their players, and it increases the competitiveness of the sides at AFL level. You only need to look at Fremantle’s injury woes last season and St. Kilda ruck issues this year to see the clear benefits of having a top-up player or two. I won’t even get into the advantages of player movement in the age of free-agency, or the increased importance of recruiting and player development at all levels.

I’m going to neglect the issues it would cause the second-tier Leagues and the families of those players asked to relocate because it doesn’t really support my argument, but I acknowledge there are issues to work through.

For DT, it would be amazing. Imagine all the new downgrade options we would have! We would know which players would have the best JS based on whether they’re filling holes (ie. any ruckman drafted to St. Kilda would be hot property), and we’d have all the stats, facts and figures on their recent form to help us decide whether they’ll become DT heros.

Thankfully, the AFL has said they are ‘open-minded’ to the idea, which is encouraging. The Mid-Season Draft has been used in the past to some degree of success, and it can be again. To quote Spiderman, “With free agency comes great opportunity”. Let’s make this happen.


  • Downgrade Heros

It’s a very delicate stage of the game, a week out from the MBR’s. Any trades you want to make are accompanied by that nagging voice in the back of your head that says it’s foolish to trade a player in now, when they’re just going to have their Bye in a week or two. For me, that voice has multiplied to a high pitch wail. As a result, I’ve shut up shop and begun the nervous wait until after Round 11.

Because of this, I’m hoping that some of our finest downgrade options start debuting over Rounds 10 and 11. Unfortunately, those like Darley and Sexton have arrived at an awkward time for us because they would both be very handy downgrade options if used in conjunction with a bye-avoiding upgrade over the Bye rounds.

So who does that leave us with? Here are a few downgrade options on the radar, which hopefully get a gig over the next few rounds.

Thomas Couch – Melbourne – $85,800 Mid/Fwd

Couch is the obvious one, and probably the best-poised player to force his way into the side, although we’ve been saying that for a while! He’s been on the radar since day dot, resulting in him being owned in 15,500 teams without even playing a senior game. Of the 6 games he’s played for the Dees’ VFL affiliate Casey Scorpions, he’s been in the best players 5 times. Unfortunately, there was a general bye in the VFL this week, which hinders his progress in finally getting a game. He averages 27 disposals a match, which is about 4 more than Melbourne earn as a team every week.

Sam Gibson – Kangaroos – $85,800 Mid

Gibson was another rookie-listed player we had in our sights over the pre-season, and the best way to describe him is ‘ball-magnet’. He’s played 8 games for the Werribee tigers this year, averaging 114 DT in that time and finding himself named in the best players on 5 of those occasions. This included a huge 3-goal, 40 disposal, 8 tackle and 8 mark effort against the Geelong Reserves side; good for 175 DT points. The kid (well, man. Another mature-ager.) can play, but unfortunately we have to wait until after Round 11 before he can get be upgraded (due to the AFL’s rookie elevation guidelines) as the ‘nominated’ rookie for the Roos.

Tom Mitchell – Sydney – $98,700 Mid

As a Father-Son pick, Mitchell is like a wolf in sheep’s clothing; he has all the ability of a top 10 draft pick but we get him at the bargain price of $98,700. In some ways, his pre-season knee issues have been a blessing in disguise, just as Mzungu’s were last year. We know we have a bona fide downgrade option on our hands, and he’s closing fast on an AFL opportunity. He’s slowly building up game time and fitness, resulting in a break-out 42 disposals, 6 marks and a goal for the Swans NEAFL side two weekends ago.

Hayden Crozier – Fremantle – $98,700 Fwd/Mid

Crozier is a bit of a smoky as a DT pick, but he was named as an emergency last week (culled from the 7-man interchange from Sunday’s teams) so obviously Fremantle like something about him. He’s been playing as a high-impact half-forward for East Perth, asked to make a contest with the high ball and crumb it when he can’t get there. He reminds me of Fyfe in his debut year – he looks skinny and out of place but still manages to win one-on-one contests. He’s been averaging 15 disposals and 1.5 goals a game but let’s himself down with just the 0.75 tackles a game, meaning he averages 64 DT a game this year. I’m not euphoric about those numbers, but he is in the mix so keep an eye on him.

Luke Brown – Adelaide – $98,700 Def/Mid

With Darley already earning a game and Sam Docherty on the comeback trail (and a little overpriced as a rookie), much of my hopes rest on Brown cracking a game over the next few weeks so that we have a downgrade option in defence. He was in the mix pre-season, but suffered that unprovoked pub attack in which he sustained dental issues that disturbed his training load. With Adelaide playing so well, earning a senior spot might prove impossible, but a DTer can hope, right? He’s been named in the best players for Norwood in their last two matches, which has to give him (and us) a fighting chance.

Others to Watch

Murray Newman – West Coast – $98,700 Mid

Elliot Kavanagh – Essendon – $98,700 Mid

Jordan Lockyer – Sydney – $98,700 Def

Sam Docherty – Brisbane – $139,200 Def/Mid


  • Makers & Breakers

Do we have a new super-premium on our hands?! Brett Deledio is doing everything right to be considered in that elite bracket of DTers. Let’s tick them off; He has the scoring – he boasts the 5th-highest average competition-wide this year with 117.6 points per game – he has the consistency – he hasn’t dipped below 100 since his Round 1 score of 91 – and he’s regularly producing those huge Captain-escue scores – the 141 he scored this week means he’s topped 140 on three occasions this year, after only reaching that figure once before 2012. He won’t be a DPP next year, but maybe he’s worthy of a spot as a pure midfielder?

Stevie J was simply everywhere on Friday night. He mark-kicked his way to 148 points, playing much further up the ground than we’ve become accustomed to. Johnson also notched career-highs in disposals (36) and marks (14), highlighting his new-found ability to be a valuable link-up player. If you’re in need of a forward, consider Stevie – he’s in some rare form, averaging 129 points in his last 4 games after ticking over at 80 points per game prior to that.

No matter what you do, it’s just inevitable that in any 50-50 you’ll end up playing the wrong rookie on the field. That’s what I’ve come to realise, and it’s stopped me losing precious sleep… Treloar was the one who got me (and many others) this week, but for those who benefitted from his 119, well done! Treloar’s living up to our pre-season expectations, scoring erratically but solidly overall. He’s now up to $288,600 with a BE of 12; a variable that’s likely to remain low while his latest effort hangs around in his rolling average. At this rate, he’ll be a great cash-in option at around $350k any time after Round 12. Hello, Swanny.

Well done, Zorko. Whilst I was always convinced of your JS in a struggling Lions outfit, it was your scoring ability that had me cautious. A vested 26 followed by 96 against a hapless GWS made it very difficult to gauge your scoring potential. But after 94 on the weekend I can sleep easy knowing that you’ll grind out a reasonable score for me, unlike the nervous sweats and uncontrollable shakes I get when I’m forced to start Morris.

A speedy and deliberate reply is the perfect response to finding yourself in the Breakers, and Mitchy Robinson has given us just that. His 146 points was partly facilitated by Murphy-issued midfield time, but was highly valuable nonetheless. Hopefully, we can rely on this extra on-ball time while Carrazzo and Murphy continue to find themselves on the sidelines.

Travis Cloke is possibly the biggest underperformer in the competition this season. He dominated at will last year, but he’s stumbled, and badly, so far in 2012. Is it all this conjecture about his contract situation? As we all know, contract hysteria is only a good thing when you’re playing well – if you’re down on form, it’s just a massive distraction. Sort it out mate, and hopefully dish out something more than 24 points to the 38,000 DT coaches relying on you.

It’s not often that you score -3 and miss out on the Breakers, and this week is no exception. After all the downgrade-option hype on the back of Tommy Walsh’s 85 last week (against the Demons, remember), we’ve all been brought back down to earth this week. It’s just shades of this pre-season, when everyone was smitten by his masterful round-ball skills in the International Rules tests until he almost embarrassed himself in the Nab Cup. While Walsh has a BE of -14 this week, forget about him as a downgrade option – he won’t earn you the points or the cash to make it worthwhile.

Two players came from nowhere to average 90 after Round 7; I’m talking about Whitecross and Clancee Pearce. With Fyfe and Goodes going down, there’s a fair chance you considered both these guys given their bargain prices. If you went down that route, hopefully you picked Whitecross and not the tattooed Docker. Pearce was in great form until Round 8, where he sustained a head-knock and was subbed out for 42. Whether that affected him this week, who knows, but it’s a wonder he even got to 32 in the Derby, he was that rarely sighted. You’d have to say the Clancee experiment has failed so far.

I’m going to keep this brief, because I’m still seething that I ‘upgraded’ Golby to this guy. Hargrave has scored 56 and 64, his two lowest scores for the season, in the last two weeks. Not good enough old man.

I questioned whether Geary was a legitimate option this season in an earlier edition of the Bullets. To paraphrase, I said that he was over-performing but would remain solid for the remainder of the season. I was half-right – he was over-performing alright. What I failed to realise was the affect that Gram’s absence was having on his scoring. With Gram out of the side, Geary averaged 84 points. With Gram back, he’s averaged just 34 points per game, including only 21 against the Swans this weekend. Umm… my bad.


  • Tbetta’s Tweets

There were some great questions send my way this week – keep them coming guys!

I had another few tweets asking the same thing, and I’m just glad I don’t have this issue confronting my team.

Firstly, we have to consider whether he can turn this form around. I think yes. At least, he can’t get any worse, but with 24 in his scoring rotation, are you willing to bet another $50k that he’ll wake up? Secondly, what can you get for around his price? Not a lot unfortunately. Whitecross is $40k dearer if you have the spare change, and he’s been pretty consistent over the journey. Didak’s also a little more expensive at an extra $20k, and he’s scored 110 and 80 in his two unvested games. Maybe you think he’s worth the risk? Lastly, do you really want to ‘upgrade’ Cloke? That’s two trades to bring in a Gun, for someone who’s supposed to be a gun. Stinks of wasted trades to me.

If it were me, I’d probably hold on for dear life and hope he finally gets his head right. But I’m very glad I don’t have to.


Great question, and again, one that a few people have been sending through. If you had asked me two weeks ago, I’d have said his JS was about the same as Miles’; He’ll come in for a game or when Sheedy feels it’s time to give others a rest, but other than that, pretty weak. But after he managed to: 1. Hold his place after about six guys came back from the General, and 2. Score a massive 42 in a quarter of footy, I’m starting to second-guess myself.

Thursday’s Teams will reveal more, but I can’t help but feel like he’ll retain his spot this week and be given a full game based on that quarter of footy. He couldn’t have done much more, and surely Sheedy has to reward that. So, it’s a week-by-week proposition for me, but overall I think he has shaky JS. Our mate RLGriffin thinks he’ll be in and out of the side all year, and I can’t help but agree with him there.


Definitely. If you’re worried about going forward the Steel Beam combo, don’t be. Beams proved last year that he’s a Gun, averaging 124 points in the last 5 games of 2011 when Swan was killing it and notching Brownlow votes almost every week. He’ll find the footy regardless of who else is around him.

Sidebottom is different in the way that he’s only just exploded this year. Again, I’m very confident that Swan has little to no effect on his scoring. Steele averaged almost 118 in the 6 weeks leading up to Swanny’s injury, so it’s fair to say I’m not worried at all.


Great stat! And this is the problem with how the Byes have worked against us this year. Ideally, the bulk of our rookies would be from R12 or R13, so we could trade them out when they reach their bye. Not so – most of the rookies are from R11, thanks to the Giants and some others from the Lions and Bulldogs. In a perfect world, there’d be an abundance of R11 Premiums on fire, so we can get upgrade to them after Round 11 and avoid their bye. But as you said, Dangerfield is the only one in the top 15 Forwards (18 actually), just as Waters is the only candidate in the top 10 Defenders, and Boyd and Thompson are the only two options the rate in the top 13 Midfielders.

As a result, I think we’ll see those guys, along with possibly Rockliff, as the most traded-in premiums immediately after R11. There are simply no other decent options.


  • Next Round

As always, let’s look towards next week. We have our Geelong, Essendon and Collingwood players lining up against the three minnows, and we can usually expect extra points from them. Although, Stanton (94) and Watson (91) both failed to capitalise against a gritty Giants outfit, especially Stants who junked it up late but was well-held by Scully to 52 until 3Q time. Stanton for the Magner tag? What about Selwood’s scoring with a McDonald/Scully following him around?

The other pressing issue is whether to trade or not. I’ve already outlined my reasons for holding, but it’s a unique decision depending on your bye structure and strategy. Darley and Sexton are the two impressive rookies on the bubble, but remember, if you get them now you won’t be able to squeeze much cash out of them in a downgrade over the MBR’s.

Let’s finish off with the Meme of the Week. It’s probably a week late, but given their effort in the Derby I think it’s still relevant.


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    May 28, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    Just a nice one that might leave a few coaches salivating. Miles is due back from injury in two weeks. possible downgrade after round 11?

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      May 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm

      Miles on the bubble at Rnd 11/12 would be PERFECT for us Magner owners who may still have him until then..

      Hope Couch getting a long overdue, well-deserved game isnt at the expense of Magner!

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    May 28, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Awesome as usual tbetta.

    Lol watch us all jump on Sexton then he gets dropped and Hall comes back in! God please dont do that to us Bluey!

    Hoping Horse can keep chugging along until Rnd 12! Dont hit your wall just yet, keep on galloping!

    Also Cloke will be at a very tempting price soon.. at this stage I want to trade in Swan, Pendles, Beams, Shaw and Cloke after Rnd 12!

    In other news, how stoned does Tom Walsh look in that pic? Prob why he got -3..

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      May 28, 2012 at 7:15 pm

      Stoned? He just looks Irish …

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    May 28, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Swan was listed as returning this week on the injury list on the collingwood website LAST WEEK.

    Just in case you traded him, thought i’d give you a heads up, one week late, oops.

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    May 28, 2012 at 7:02 pm

    Dyson Heppell very doubtful for this week. Probably atleast 1 more week.

    He’s been nothing but shit for me since I got him in.

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    May 28, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    To follow up on the forward delema, Ablett is the only top 10 premo with a round 10 bye in the midfield!

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      Chuck Norris

      May 28, 2012 at 7:11 pm

      What round 10 bye?

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      May 28, 2012 at 7:13 pm

      make that rd 13 bye, had round 10 on my mind! woops

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    May 28, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Have had Scotty Selwood since about round 3 now but was wondering what other’s thoughts are on keeping him as a pernament keeper? Already have Ablett, Swan, Jelwood, Boyd, Scotty S and Horse. He seems as though he’s going to be pretty consistent and keep his average up above 100?

    • Billz


      May 28, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      I too picked up Scooter in round 3, and he has been awesome. You have a pretty good midfield with Ablett, Swan, Boyd and Jelwood. So id keep Scooter, he doesnt look like changing back to a tagger anytime soon. So should serve well enough as a Mid 6 imo.

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    May 28, 2012 at 7:52 pm





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      May 28, 2012 at 8:05 pm

      If Couch isn’t named why would you do either. Just leaves you with one less player playing come the bye rounds…

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        May 28, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        nah but if he gets named what one..?

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      Couch hasnt gotten a game for 10 weeks, with the worst list on the AFL. Hacks have come and gone into their team each week yet he is no where to be seen.

      I don’t see any reason as to why the hell he would get a game now. But I really hope I’m wrong.

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:20 pm

      Um…. Not sure how urgent it can be. Lockout is 4 days away! I wouldn’t trade Couch in yet though re: above comment. Sound advice you should listen to.

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    May 28, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Guys – I want to upgrade Bugg to a Mackie or a Scarlet or anyone you think in the 350K and below range? Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated….

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:13 pm

      DO NOT trade Matthew Scarlet into your team.

      Who are your current defenders?

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        May 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm

        Currently got Deledio, Waters, Suckling, M.johnson,Hanley, Hargrave and Bugg with Mohr and Spurr as the reserves..!! Who can I upgrade Bugg to- got 350K to fit someone in…!! Dont want to keep Bugg for too long…cos looks like he’s gonna go down in value…!!

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:16 pm

      Malceski, Scarlett is not a DTer and Mackie has average scores too often.

      Hargrave is 352k or try find some more money and go birch at a touch under 400k

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm

      adcock has bottomed out at $364,700 if you can afford him. He scored 95 last week and is averaging 82.6 He represents great value imo

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      Look at thier averages before you consider this…

      Mackie 70.11
      Scarlett 74.75
      Bugg 72.38

      I can see Mackie and Scarlett are both scoring a bit higher than thier averages in recent weeks, and Bugg lower, but form can change.

      This would be a massive waste of a trade in my opinion, it can’t even be considered an upgrade. You should be looking for a defender that is averaging 85 plus, who is reliable, to consider it an upgrade.

      If you don’t have enough cash, you need to make some more cash, otherwise you might as well just keep Bugg cause you will get around the same output and have an extra trade.

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        May 28, 2012 at 9:02 pm

        Thanks mate… appreciate everyone’s response. Does make sense, guess was just thinking if Bugg has reached his peak thats all.

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    May 28, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I wish to apologise to the dt community for trading in watson last week. Thats why he scored an underwhelming 91. Expect him to be injured over the coming weeks, as did goodes, gablett, murphy, swan and waite who have also graced my team this year.
    You have been warned! Trade out Jobe now!

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:17 pm


      I’m about to trade in Scotland, you have been warned!

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    May 28, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    Nuthin’ like The Bullets and a pale ale after a long day at the office. Appreciate your work Tbetta!

    Will be making two upgrades this week, Bugg > Scotland will be one, still undecided on the other.

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      Cheers mate – had a pale ale myself after a long day of writing them! Double upgrade – someone’s been saving!

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    May 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Time to Golby/Trollby out for me.

    75 ppg average, and +65k on his initial price, that’ll do.

    Could possibly keep u in brother, but the right dongrade came through in the right week. BL mate, adios. <3.

    TBetta will be happy to see you go, but you've done your job Mitch. Thankyou.

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    northern nemesis

    May 28, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Been hammered with injuries (and poor initial selection) so I’m trying to save trades. 15 left. Going to sacrifice one bye round and should win 2/3. Anyone else in the same boat ? Also, can’t find a rd 12 downgrade from Bugg to balance up. Any suggestions ?

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      May 28, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      Is it bad that I only have 9 trades left? Got about 280k in the kitty

      I’ve got an easy run over the MBR’s, and as I’m only going for the league win, I think I should be ok.

      After Adelaides bye round, and thompson has bottomed out, welcome to my side.

      Was also contemplting mitchell, but he has gone off the boil a bit lately

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        May 28, 2012 at 11:13 pm

        same boat here if I do 2 tardes this week. Will be down to 9 but I’m only going for league win which I’m well positioned for. What’s your current line up out of curiousity?

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    May 28, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    What are peoples thoughts on walker? 89.6 average, scored 115 last week (yes I know it was only against the dees), blues leading goalkicker last year. He’s $384,200. In comparison zahas $427,600 averaging 90.3, pav $417,100 ave 86, martin $407,000 ave 86.7. And he’s ultra unique I’d say! thoughts?

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      Not a premium forward for mine. He’s in some good form, but once that’s finished he’s back to 60s and 70s.

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        May 28, 2012 at 9:02 pm

        yeah we’re spoilt for selection with forwards this year. no room for any “maybe’s’ when you’ve got guys pumping out 90+ week in week out

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    pickle ticklers

    May 28, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    great article tbetta

    i’m a freo fan atm but am wondering if its wrong to change to being a tigers fan

    reasons are i’ve had 9 years off disappointment and they are playing boring football tigers have always been my 2nd fav team

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      May 28, 2012 at 8:32 pm

      Haha I’m in the same boat (sort of). Geelong have been my 2nd favourite team for a couple of years now, but watching Richmond really has me up and about!

      Maybe go for Freo, don’t tell anyone, and support the Tigers when they’re on?

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        May 28, 2012 at 8:59 pm

        everyones a secret tigers fan (except when they’re playing your team).

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      lyo peers

      May 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

      go tiges… sing the tigerr song and theres a smile on your face . sing the freo song and wonder whats the point… thats my scientific view. ; )

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      Uncle Fester

      May 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm

      Everyone’s a tigers fan? Bwahahahahaha.

      The only joy I get out of the tigers is knowing they will finish 9th!

      Perhaps they should save everyone the time and not enter a team. In return, the competition should permanently fix Richmond into ninth position. Saves on salary cap and wasted effort by all.

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    Chuck Norris

    May 28, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Hey Tbetta, nice article again.

    I’m going to trade in one of your Eagles boys Waters for Morris.

    The only dilemma is to trade him in this week (when Waters is bottom dollar and Morris is at peak price) or trade him after the bye to save a donut but get Waters about $30k more and Morris has probably leaked a bit.

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:24 pm

      Possible double post here, but who cares.

      Chuck, if you can afford the upgrade today, why wait for tomorrow?

      If cashing in your cows now doesn’t hurt your ability to upgrade to other premiums later, then do it.

      I don’t want to be giving you tips now, considering I’m up against you in a couple of weeks, but I reckon upgrade while you can.

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      Rambo Tambo

      May 28, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      Waters will cover the doughnut in one week anyway, will effect your league game though

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    May 28, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    I just posted this to a response on the last page but I thought I’d stir the pot some more. Sorry for reposting.

    I personally think people are taking the MBR’s way too seriously. LADY LUCK is going to get you through them.

    What if you trade in all these players that you really don’t want but do just to win three rounds. YES you win three rounds (maybe). Then you are stuck with a final team you comprimised on.

    Not for me. I’ll forfit 3 rounds (maybe accidentlly win 1 or 2) to have the exact team I want then use the trades for the rest of the year to trade to whom I want, when I want.

    Strangely this could be a strategy that makes me or breaks me, but one thing for sure, most people won’t have that (dis)advantage.

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      I kind of agree. I’m letting it fly in the MBR’s because more than likely you will cake walk one, get destroyed in an another and then maybe run a close one.

      It depends where you are the league, for some it could be the chance to grab a couple of easy wins but if your in the top 8 I see no need to panic trade.

      If you’ve been doing your upgrades properly you probably only have between 12-16 trades left anyway. Which isn’t a lot with over a half season left.

      I’m setting my team for the season, if I get beat then bad luck.

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm

      Sure, luck comes into play, but you would be a fool not to prepare for luck.

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        May 28, 2012 at 9:36 pm

        Prepare for luck?

        So I should buy the most expensive house I can find, and not bother paying the repayments cause I am going to win lotto soon and can just pay for it with cash?

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          May 28, 2012 at 9:50 pm

          Totally agree Shazam.

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            May 29, 2012 at 12:52 am

            chance favours the prepared mind..

            luck is where preparation meets opportunity…

            so yeah, prepare for it or you could miss the opportunity when it comes along. Get it?..

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      May 28, 2012 at 10:24 pm

      I’m using that same strategy Shazz, so far unbeaten in the league, should win next week comfortably and happy to sacrifice 3 rds in the MBR to have the team I want.

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        May 29, 2012 at 9:02 am

        Will be interesting to see how we go.

        I predict no worse than 1/3 or ‘betta’ for mine. I’m not in any hero leagues though.

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    Mark Mellow

    May 28, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Swan listed as a ‘test’ on their Injury list.


    Even better is that more than 20,000 people traded him last week. Noobs !!

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:03 pm

      Good news, although read on Essendon’s site that Heppel will be given every chance to play but unlikely :(

      If I’m a betting man and Swan is close to playing this week, they play it safe and he comes back next week, same with Heppel.

      They would be very useful inclusions this week though.

      If Swan comes in this week it’s like trading Swan in to your team without using any trades, compared to those who sideways traded him to another premium…

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:05 pm

      yep thats why I held onto him ;) because he’s a reasonable chance to play this week. people should do their homework b4 jumping off a premo who’s killing it

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        May 28, 2012 at 9:56 pm

        Especially if you had Treloar for cover… you would have lost nigh on nothing by holding

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    lyo peers

    May 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    tbetta why is C.Judd getting away from the bullett ? First time i have ever had him and wow he is stinking it up .

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    May 28, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Fuck you TBetta you WC supporting MOFO.

    If it was a WC player instead of Pa with the cup in their hand, they’d be dreaming it was full of uncle Charlie.

    W.C. will choke come finals time, bookmark it.

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:21 pm


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      May 28, 2012 at 9:41 pm

      ’till finals time comes well just wait up here for you, if your boat hasn’t sunk already.

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:42 pm

      Hahaha :)

      Fremantle will win a preliminary final, one day.

      They’ll lose the Grand Final though. Obviously.

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      Chuck Norris

      May 28, 2012 at 9:52 pm

      Pity the meme wouldn’t make sense if it was an Eagles player holding the cup because they’ve actually won a premiership

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      May 29, 2012 at 12:39 pm

      West Coast, 3 premierships.
      Fremantle, 3 finals appearances, 0 premierships.

      nuff said…

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      Austin Pwrz

      May 29, 2012 at 3:02 pm

      At least they will have a chance to choke in the finals, your team would have to make it there first and it is not looking very good lately matey…

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    May 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Great read tbetta… I watch a very level headed Trent Cotchin, (GUN,) being interviewed on “The Couch.”

    With all this talk of mid-season drafts, and Warnie chipping in with how much better DT could be as it prides itself on resembling real footy, I’d love for them to ADD to the 3 way dpp, by making it 4 way!

    E.g. I’d love to trade out McEvoy, dpp Roughead into the rucks, then dpp Zorko to fwds and bring in a mid!!! :-)

    Now that would ROCK imho!!! (Why not have a bit of extra flexibility!)

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    May 28, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    which trade should i do this week???
    1.) Bugg to Scotland
    2.) Shiel to J.Selwood
    3.) Treloar to Beams

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:27 pm

      bugg to scotland

      growth in shiel and treloar yet

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      Mark Mellow

      May 28, 2012 at 9:32 pm

      BE’s say Bugg to Scotland

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      May 28, 2012 at 9:33 pm

      cheers lads

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      Chuck Norris

      May 28, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      Definitely Bugg to Scotland

      Shiel and Treloar have more cash to make while Bugg has already lost a bit of cash

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      May 29, 2012 at 3:05 am

      Bugg to Scotland for sure, although get Beamer in if you can as an upgrade later. His B/E is at 117 atm, so it is possible he may go down slightly around the byes.

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    May 28, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Koby Stevens for the hell of it?

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      May 28, 2012 at 11:54 pm

      Go for it! ;)

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    May 28, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Can you believe this from Hamish Mac?? Writes his own Wikepedia page including the most unbelievable dribble….talk about ego. The Big Footy boys are all over it and evidently he’s started removing links etc. Great laugh!

    Feel free to tweet him to tell him how informative you found his page ;)

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      May 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm

      Hamish who?

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    May 29, 2012 at 12:38 am

    great article as always!

    who should i downgrade marty clarke for out of:

    birchall, broughton or waters??

    any suggestions would be great.
    thanks boys

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    May 29, 2012 at 3:02 am

    Great article as always.

    I feel that Darley is worth the downgrade but, regardless of the bye structure. The stats alone say enough there really. Just hope he continues to get the games.

    As for the byes, I say “meh” to them. If you ask me, two doughnuts per round is worth it, if it means I get to keep around 9-10 trades for the home stretch.

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    May 29, 2012 at 6:55 am

    nice work again tbetta 2 option 4 me:

    1. Trade out Porpz to Beams

    2. Trade out Clarke UPGRADE to ???

    The good thing with option 1 is porpz’s BE is 74 which is achievable but i cant risk it + Beams is in great form ad a good choice for capt maybe. Leaving strong FWD = Franklin, beams, sidebum, robbo, martin, whitecross, didak

    But with defence the downside is that i already have a solid defence with Goddard, delids, waters, suckling, broughts, hargrave and clarke (with carrots on pine ready to pounce) so i could put clarke on pine when he comes back. + not many upgrades i can go with now.

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      May 29, 2012 at 7:10 am

      I’d go with option one mate. Your defence seems pretty solid to me. Not only that, but I see Clarke as a keeper. I have both he and Porps myself and rate Clarke the only keeper of the two.

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      May 29, 2012 at 11:55 am

      I’d go with the Beams trade. As said above you have a pretty strong defence and Beams also comes with the dpp link.

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    May 29, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Lads, need a bit of help.

    Trading Kennedy from GWS out, and iv’e got cash to splash.

    Which round 11 bye premo mid ?

    Thompson, Rocky or Redden ?

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      May 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm


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    May 30, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Cloke the joke:

    I removed Cloke as that score is unacceptable and cost me a win no second thoughts.

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