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tbetta’s Bullets: Round 19

What an amazing week! No point going on about it here in the blurb, so get in and check out this week’s Bullets! I take a look at some World Records, Fantasy Cats vs Dream Team Hawks, a few games coming in Round 20, as well as the Breakers and a world-first Extended Makers!

  • 2833

That was Round 19’s highest score, to a team by the name of DT Cubed Redux. Now I don’t think anyone keeps track of the records for highest score in a round, and if they do I couldn’t find it, but I can guarantee you that that’s the greatest total there’s ever been in Dream Team (now confirmed). And there were only 7 games this week!

I’ve been asked a couple of times already ‘What’s a par score in a week like this?’. I never thought I would say this, but…. about 2500 was a score you’d be happy with, and if you had anything less than 2400, I wouldn’t be bragging. That’s how HUGE this week was.

But I can hear you thinking ‘You say that every week!’. Well, here’s some proof. There was a huge 10 players to score 150 or more points this week – the most for any other round this year has been 3, in Round 10. What an explosion!

As Coach Carter once said “Those, are some stats, for yo ass.”

  • Cat-astrophe

With headlines like that, it’s a wonder I’m not employed by the Herald Sun… The Cats ran riot against the Demons on Saturday, setting all sorts of records, in both AFL and Dream Team. They had the equal-greatest amount of goals ever recorded (37), and came tantalisingly close to breaking their own record of 239 in a VFL/AFL match. But the Dream Team records are the ones that interest us here at DT Talk.

For starters, it’s the most 150+ scores for one side in a single match with 4. Individually, Joel Selwood moves into 7th on the Highest Scores list (since 2005 – he also owns 3rd spot), while Stevie J ties himself (and Dane Swan, just this week) at equal 18th with another 171.

We’ve only ever seen one game as dominant and as fertile as this, in Round 10 this year when the Hawks played the Bulldogs.

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As you can see, very similar games towards the top of the table. But as you go further down, you can see that 17 Cats score 80+, while only 13 Hawks achieved this feat. We went on and on about how amazing the Hawks scoring was back in Round 10… But check out the Cats! They had a grand total of 2236, dwarfing the Hawks effort of 2045! This equates to a player average of 102 from the Cats compared to 93 from the Hawks in Round 10, as shown in the graphics.

Quite simply, this was the most incredible Dream Team game ever played, and likely to be played for a long time. It’s not often a team wins by 186 points, while winning the disposal count 510 to 286. Once-in-a-generation type numbers.

A few weeks ago, I did an extended Breakers to underline just how bad that week was for scoring. Given the world-record week on hand, I think it’s only fitting that we have an extended Makers for Round 19.

The only criteria is that each player selected must have at least 10% ownership – I want to show you how well a REAL team could have scored in a week like this.


Enright (156) Goddard (152) Gibbs (144) Scotland (110)
Broughton (102) Heppell (97) Fisher (92)
Selwood  (178) Swan (171) © Pendlebury (141) Bartel (127)
Boyd (126) Ablett (118)
Cox  (155) Petrie(79)
Johnson (171) Pavlich (122) Krakouer (108) Fyfe (106)
Chapman (100) I.Smith (90) Darling (88)

With Swan as Captain, that’s a grand total of 2904…. And that doesn’t even include Gram, Stanton, Priddis, Dal Santo or Swallow, or even McEvoy or Knights, who aren’t popular enough to qualify! It also is fairly realistic – with Heppell, Darling, I.Smith and Krakouer all originally rookie-priced players contributing to that theoretical total. Massive, massive week… anyway, here are a few notes on some of the bigger scorers for the week:

As I said earlier, Joel Selwood’s 178 was granted a place in the record book, which is the best way to find yourself mentioned in the Makers. What makes it even more damaging is his uniqueness – not many held him through his latest suspension, keeping him in only just over 10% of teams. He gathered a career-high 43 disposals, while also laying 11 tackles – Jelwood is back.

Steve Johnson can probably consider himself unlucky scoring 171 and not earning the big photo this week. He had a massive game even by his lofty standards, collecting 34 disposals and slotting a lazy 7 goals. Interestingly, it’s the 2nd time he has scored exactly 171 points this year.

How strong the link between good form and good scoring is! St Kilda has had a fantastic month and a half, so it’s no surprise that Goddard is back playing like the gun we all know he is. Yes, it was against the Suns (which never gets much love from myself), but he was also my Captain, so I couldn’t help but notice his 152 point performance. He had 59 to quarter time and the writing was on the wall from then on, despite the Suns tightening up on him. This is his 5th ton in a row, which has pushed his price above 400k for the first time in a long time.


                  1. Moloney 0
                  2. Ben Jacobs 0
                  3. Waters 39
                  4. Suckling 63
                  5. Griffen 47

There were many bizarre things to come out of the Geelong-Melbourne clash, but the tale of Brent Moloney has to be the weirdest of all. Never before have I seen an AFL player fail to register a stat in a half – not even a free kick against! The ultimate donut – a row of 0’s in the stats column, until you get to TOG. Ling deserves all the praise he gets for keeping the Melbourne Vice-Captain and early Brownlow fancy statless, forcing the Demon to be subbed out at half time.

Ben Jacobs may not have played this week, but that is exactly why he’s in the Breakers. With Adcock and Deledio out with the bye, many of us had to call on the young Port defender-midfielder. But he was a Friday withdrawal with reported quad soreness, forcing the hand of many coaches relying on him for the first time in weeks. Personally, this was the cause of my 2nd donut of the year.

Throughout the week there was a lot of chat in the forums about the better option in defence, mainly between Fisher, Waters, Suckling and Birchall. Waters was a tasty prospect, with a low BE, no byes and an enviable ride home, but he ended up scoring only 39 in the Eagles slim win over the Bulldogs. He was subbed out in the 3rd quarter with what was rumoured to be lingering elbow soreness – he was spotted during the week copping a knock at training and there was speculation he might not play. I know I talked him up last week, but with his continued injury concerns, it’s probably best to play it safe this late in the game.

After missing last week with a back complaint, Suckling eased back into many teams with an underwhelming 63, improved with a junk-time goal. To be fair, the conditions didn’t help at all, with the sloppy footy keeping the Hawks to one of its lowest team totals for the year. Suckers’ price is now down to 343k, with a BE of 132 this week – meaning we have a bargain on our hands in a couple of weeks.

Ryan Griffen is one of the most consistent bat-raisers this year, but this week’s 47 is a great example of why he isn’t apart of more than 9,448 teams – when he’s good, he’s just good and not great, but when he’s bad, he’s very bad. That’s his fourth score of 75 or less this year – very significant when you consider he’s tonned up 13 times.

  • Going Clutch

The single most important round for your Leagues is upon us this week – a win or a loss this week has never had such dire and concrete consequences. We are without Bulldogs players this week, which means Boyd goes to the bench, as does Griffin, Murphy and Giansiracusa if you have them (Higgins should have gone a long time ago).

Consider your trades wisely this week – a trade now to secure a win (and maybe a double chance, for example) could be worth 2 in finals.

Looking ahead to this week’s games, we have some tantalising Dream Team games on hand. We have Cats vs Suns – if Geelong can smash a hardened side in the Dees, what can they do to the Suns at Skilled? Then Swan, Pendles and the rest of the Pies will travel to South Australia to take on cellar dwellars Port Adelaide. And if that wasn’t promising enough, Hawthorn clashes with the Roos on Sunday, which shapes as another tasty fantasy offering!

Pencil in another huge week Ladies and Gentleman!

Until next week.



Twitter: @tbetta9

Alex Trombetta has been with DT Talk since 2011 providing content in various forms. A lover of Classic, Draft and DFS, you can be sure to be getting top-notch advice from the Eagles man.



  1. Slappers


    August 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm


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      August 1, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      Good for you amigo

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    August 1, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    I got 2512 and was ranked 8704.
    Last yesr i got a 2534 and was ranked 80th overall for that round.

    That shows just how massive this week was!

  3. Dusty Cotch n Conks

    Dusty Cotch n Conks

    August 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Of all those juicy Cats players, the only one I had was Chappy. I would consider 100 from him in a 186 point thrashing a bit of a dud score.
    Should have taken my own advice regarding him dropping off in the last half of the season and not traded him in.

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      August 1, 2011 at 4:45 pm

      I didn’t start with him but traded him in. Im really surprised by his poor efforts this year compared with last year.

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      August 1, 2011 at 5:04 pm

      i traded chapman out for dalsanto this week

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    August 1, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    So nothing mentioned about Hodge not playing? Named on the teamsheet, no details about a injury, and suddenly he isn’t flying with the team…

    • Brak


      August 1, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      and Daisy Thomas…..

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        August 1, 2011 at 11:13 pm

        I had a friend with both of them with Ben Jacobs for cover.

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          Albert Lloyd

          August 2, 2011 at 1:16 am

          I had both of them with Goodes as cover :/

  5. Slappers


    August 1, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    who should i upgrade shaw to?


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      August 1, 2011 at 3:51 pm

      Fisher, hands down.

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      August 1, 2011 at 9:49 pm

      Birchall… has GC in the GF

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    The Pack

    August 1, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Any news on didak did he play vfl on the weekend?

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    Hill End

    August 1, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Any news on Mitchell – went down with 5 to go clutching his ankle???????????

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      August 1, 2011 at 3:46 pm

      He said straight after the game in an interview it was just a niggle, and that he’ll be fine for this week.
      Whether or not that’s true is another question – I’ll be covering him with an emergency for sure.

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    August 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Mitchell was interviewed after the game and said he was fine, just twisted it a bit and I don’t think Didak played in the Magoo’s, he wasn’t named anyway.

  9. feathertopDT


    August 1, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Hey!!! Good to see Dream Stats being used on this website :D

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      August 1, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      Yeah, I’m a big fan – it looks great, you can highlight your players and see see the stats or graphs with the click of a button.

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      August 1, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      Never knew Dream Stats existed … lovin it thanks guys

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        August 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm

        Dream Stats is awesome! I love meeting all the essendon supporters when their sides winning. Can’t believe how much the umpires love keeping essendon in games!

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    August 1, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    5 trades left, I am thinking of trading in pavlich or ROK for swallow in the midfield to cover byes for boyd, Petrie, chapman and Murphy, who would you bring in out of these 2, pav has the higher ceiling but ROK has broken 100 3 more times…

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      August 1, 2011 at 3:52 pm

      I’m not a Pav fan, so I’m going to say O’Keefe…
      But seriously, I think Pav is carrying an injury, and he has a tough run home… O’Keefe is consistent as they get and fresh from a bye.

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    August 1, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    3 trades left

    should i get rid of stanly (to ensure a win) and get anyone bar goddard gibbs, scotland. delidio and broughton


    hold out to next week and sell poops and get either sucklin or birchall

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      August 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      option 2 for sure, stanley is in great form and is good enough if not better at the mo than most of the premium defenders! he may not get u the 140’s lik goddard but he will give u consistent 90-100’s from here on in

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        August 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm

        and get birchall

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    Big Feller

    August 1, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    I’m littered with Hawks players and got stung big time on the weekend – do you think they’ll be back to their old ways from here on in?

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      August 1, 2011 at 4:37 pm

      What’s the weather supposed to be like in Launceston this week? If it’s dry, it’ll be points galore. If it’s wet, we’ll most likely see something similar to this weekend – it’s much harder to play that possession style of footy in the rain.

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      August 1, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      Wet weather was always going to make it low possession footy. Suckling worries me a bit, especially as he has been carrying a back injury of some sort.

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    August 1, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Forgetting about finals byes who would you put in your backline out of Broughton, Enright, Suckling and Birchall?

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      August 1, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      If money was no object, Broughton.

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        August 1, 2011 at 4:40 pm

        I thought the same until I looked at their draw. Freo will not win another game.

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          August 1, 2011 at 4:45 pm

          I dont think that will effect broughtons score too much as he got 102 this week and they got pumped!

          Also if you need the points this week id get enright as he dominates at skilled stadium. otherwise get broughton!

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          August 1, 2011 at 4:46 pm

          but broughton will till rack up

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            August 1, 2011 at 5:00 pm

            also just putting an idea out there if you wanted a unique pick you could go Jared Petrenko as he has been getting consistent solid scores now hes in the midfield and the crows have a reasonably good run home.

            Just an idea

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            August 1, 2011 at 6:12 pm

            On Sunday, Petrenko got put in a forward pocket for much of the match, as players like Knights and Dangerfield were given a run there instead. However he still played a stunning game, and was sent into the middle towards the end of the last quarter to rack up some junk time stats. A good unique pick, however his points scoring may suffer in games where they will be belted (e.g. v Eagles, Cats)

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    August 1, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Stevie J for captain at Skilled. He’s got an average of 171 against the Suns

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      Albert Lloyd

      August 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm

      Not to mention an average of 171 over his last 1 games.

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        August 1, 2011 at 6:52 pm

        I’m 7th overall… just sayin’ ;)

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          August 1, 2011 at 6:53 pm

          Shit, this was just meant to be a braggy post, not a completely irrelevant braggy reply!

          mah bad.

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          Phil Ken Sebben

          August 1, 2011 at 7:37 pm

          +9 Benny

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    August 1, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Regain Deledio, Adcock and Goodes as well as Riewoldt who returns from suspension.

    Team as of round 20.

    Gibbs, Goddard, Deledio, Heppell, Broughton, Martin, Adcock (Lower, Puopolo, Jacobs)
    Murphy, Pendles, Swan, Mitchell, Ablett, Mzungu (Boyd, Prestia, Hibberd)
    Cox, Petrie (Smith, Derickx)
    Fyfe, Goodes, Chapman, Sylvia, Riewoldt, Franklin, Smith (Darling, Lynch, Howe)
    SALARY CAP: $11, 800

    With my last two trades, should I hold or keep and what do you think of my overall team as of round 20?

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      August 2, 2011 at 1:43 am

      quite good and good cover too. Just need 1 more premium in attack

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        August 2, 2011 at 9:12 am

        Cheers :)

        I might trade Hibberd down to a cheapie such as Callinan to save cash , then trade Mzungu to someone such as Stevie J to complete my forward line.

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    August 1, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    According to informed rumours any Hibberd owners should be looking at their options. Club not happy.

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    August 1, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Who would you rather have for the finals?
    R. Murphy or Adcock??

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      August 1, 2011 at 7:41 pm

      Adcock… I think he’s back. When he was fit he was killing it, and i think his 79 and 96 (off the top of my head) in his last two shows he’s getting back to his full fitness.

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        August 1, 2011 at 9:10 pm

        Cheers mate, leaning towards adcock aswell.
        He has the potential to score 120’s, whereas murphy’s highest score this year is only around 100…

  18. POK


    August 1, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Who not to play this week . One out of Adcock, Gram, Heppell and Stanley. Most likely Stanley down at skilled.

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      August 1, 2011 at 7:42 pm

      I’m almost tempted to say Gram, just because he hasn’t gained my trust yet. Definitely a decision I’m glad i don’t have.

      • POK


        August 1, 2011 at 7:51 pm

        yea well i am playing gibbs in midfiled (boyd out) this week otherwise i’m having to have 2 of Adcock Gram Heppell Stanley on the bench every week apart from last 2.

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      August 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      Stanley scored 110 against Collingwood, even with an injury cloud.

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    August 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    TKOL ranked 1550 !

    LOL ;)

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      Blue boys

      August 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm


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    August 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Hodge not playing should definetly be in breakers. him and jacobs caused me to get a zero in midfield

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    August 1, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    I regain Adcock, Deledio, Cotchin, Goodes, ROK and N.Voldt this week to nearly get me back to full strength apart from Boyd and Higgins.

    DEF: Gibbs, Scotland, Goddard, Deledio, Suckling, Adcock, Heppell (Jacobs, Nicholson, Toy)
    MID: Swan, Pendles, Thompson, Ablett, Cotchin, Mzungu (Boyd, Prestia, Hibberd)
    RUC: Cox, Petrie (Smith, Derickx)
    FWD: Johnson, Goodes, ROK, Franklin, Sylvia, N.Voldt, Smith (Higgins, Howe Richardson)

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      August 2, 2011 at 4:27 pm

      thank god

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        Albert Lloyd

        August 2, 2011 at 6:19 pm

        Please, call me Albert

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    August 1, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Okay fellas….this will be my last trade pre-finals so I have to make it count!

    Input is VERY appreciated!

    I have 415k to spend on a midfielder.

    I have: Boyd, Swan, Pendles, Mitchell and GAJ + new (Mzungu, Hibberd, Callian)

    Unfortunately I have no idea who I should get!

    Judd, Selwood and Murphy all have byes (but thinking I would be hoping for the win first week and get a week off so Selwood an option).

    Hodge, Priddis and Rockliff are potentials as well.

    Or the risky option is Jobe Watson (but that leaves about 80k in the kitty for finals disasters!)

    Cheers in advance! :)

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      August 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      Rockliff has averaged 110 if you ignore his injured 59. I’ve loved having his since round 1.

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      Albert Lloyd

      August 2, 2011 at 1:18 am

      Selwood with Dal Santo a close second.

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        August 2, 2011 at 9:57 am

        Thanks guys….I’ll take it under advisement. :)

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    August 1, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    “Geelong star Paul Chapman was cleared of any wrongdoing despite his fracas with Melbourne’s Lynden Dunn being looked at by the match review panel.”

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    August 2, 2011 at 1:48 am

    I had 8 players score 140+ and another 6 score 100+ and who did I pick as captain?? Thompson who scored a massive 71!!! Oh what couldve been…

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    August 2, 2011 at 2:44 am

    Apologies for the lengthy post but would appreciate any thoughts on my rest of season plan…

    This week:

    BAC: Gibbs, Goddard, Enright, Suckling, Stanley, Adcock, Puopolo (Murphy, Hibberd, Nicholson)

    MID: Pendlebury, Redden, Mitchell, Thompson, Bartel, Mzungu (Boyd, Prestia, Irons)

    RUC: Cox, Smith (Lobbe, Bailey)

    FWD: Johnson, Fyfe, Chapman, Petrie, Sylvia, Franklin, N.Riewoldt (Lynch, Howe, Retzlaff)

    Going for league wins, in 5 leagues and sit 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 8th in them.

    4 trades left, $320k in bank.

    Round 20 (Bulldogs bye):
    Howe trade -> O’Keefe (or Goodes/Pavlich)
    Sub O’Keefe into mids to play instead of Mzungu as cover for Boyd

    Round 21 (North Melb bye):
    Sub O’Keefe back to forwards, Mzungu back to mids on bench, Boyd back on field
    Petrie on bench
    O’Keefe on for Petrie

    Round 22 (Geelong bye):
    Chapman sub for Mzungu who plays in forwards
    Petrie off bench and plays in forwards instead of Johnson
    Bartel -> maybe use a trade here (Swan/Ablett)
    Enright bench, have to play Puopolo in backs

    Round 23 (Carlton bye):
    Gibbs out -> use a trade and upgrade Hibberd/Puopolo into a gun back to replace him (Broughton/Fisher/Martin/Waters)

    Round 24 (Essendon bye):
    No players affected, save last trade to put best team on park (maybe upgrade Smith in rucks)

    So I manage to cover the byes as best as possible and use my 4 trades to most affect, barring unexpected injuries.

    Can anyone see any holes in this? Cheers guys.

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      August 2, 2011 at 3:06 am

      Actually I could do two trades in Round 22 and upgrade Puopolo, I then have the cover for Enright and then also Gibbs in Round 23 without having to trade either out.

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