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We received an email from crowsrock, the coach of Wecky’s Wackos, looking at players who we should look at upgrading to. It is upgrade season and we need to make the right choices. Which players do you have targeted for upgrades over the next few weeks?

We are now well into upgrading season with some of our cash cows getting nice and plump for the picking. Below is a list of upgrades in my opinion.

  1. Joel Selwood: If you take the 27 he scored in less than a quarter before being KO by Farren Ray’s hip he is averaging a massive 119.7, this would be the best average in the league, even better that Pendles, Boyd and Swan. Besides the 27 he has only scored under 100 once and that was against the unfriendly DT side Sydney. His next lowest after that is 116. His games in this time haven’t been easy either playing Collingwood, Hawthorn, Carlton who are all top 4 sides. Has a good run home playing Adelaide 2 times and Richmond, Melbourne, Gold Coast and Brisbane.
  2. Dean Cox: The second place has to go to the big cox, he has been the highest averaging ruck by a fair bit this year and is the 4th highest averaging player in the game. He has fallen below the 100 mark only twice this year and has a nice ceiling of 141. Also plays Adelaide twice as well as Gold Coast, Brisbane, Melbourne, Port Adelaide and Richmond on the run home. He really is a must have this year.
  3. Scott Pendlebury: After having a small form slump and dropping a bit in price the highest averaging player in the game is back after a big 131 on the weekend. Has a massive ceiling of 166 and has only dropped under 100 3 times this year. Plays Gold Coast, Port  Adelaide, Richmond, Brisbane and Melbourne in the run home. Best option would be to get after his bye in round 13. And is only selected by 28% of the coaches.
  4. Matthew Boyd: The second highest averaging player in the league this year is a must have in any good side this year. Has only dropped under 100 twice this year and has a massive ceiling of 162. Plays Gold Coast, Melbourne, Adelaide, Port Adelaide in the run home. Is only selected by a small 22% of coaches.
  5. Lance Franklin: The second highest averaging forward this year is back to his best of a couple of years ago. After a slow-ish start to the year he has averaged a very nice 110.8 in his last 5 games. Has fallen below 100 only 4 times this year and has a nice ceiling of 144. Has nice run home playing Gold Coast x2, Port Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane.

Honourable Mentions

  • Luke Hodge: Cheap, hitting form and is a gun
  • Scott Thompson: Playing well and putting up big scores in losing team and not many selections
  • Marc Murphy: Putting up big scores of late and is also relatively unselected
  • Dane Swan: Already selected by almost the whole comp and is currently injured

What about Gary Ablett?

I will probably get slammed for not including Gablett in the upgrade list but I don’t see him as a good upgrade. This year in 7 games he has cracked the ton only 2 times. Has already missed one game from injury/soreness and will no doubt miss more. Young team will tire and struggle towards end of year possibly. But how about the massive 156? Wow 156 against Adelaide he must be back, NOT. 52,000 coaches have already been sucked into Ablett and I feel sorry for them.

Written by crowsrock coach of Wecky’s Wackos

262 Comments

262 Comments

  1. spuzzlord

    June 2, 2011 at 10:06 am

    pendles for me. although undecided whether to hold off til after the bye.

    hmmmmmmmmmmm

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 10:14 am

      thankyou for not saying first lol

    • crowsrock

      June 2, 2011 at 10:16 am

      Im waiting till after the bye so Bewick’s price rises a bit more.

      • Serenity Now

        June 2, 2011 at 10:43 am

        I too have been waiting for Bewick, but he is either going to be dropped or will score very little. It was Bewick or Libba at the start and we got it wrong.

        • crowsrock

          June 2, 2011 at 10:48 am

          In three rounds he can still make a bit more money for us.

          Luckily i got Libba aswell but he’s gone this week for Murphy/HodgeThompson

      • Alex's All Stars

        June 2, 2011 at 11:03 am

        i’m in the same boat mate, thinking it’d be best to give him a couple more weeks while brisbane are firing. Hopefully he pulls some decent scores instead of his typical 30-55pt games.

        • crowsrock

          June 2, 2011 at 11:09 am

          He started off with 68 and 71 so hopefully he can get scores like that again

    • Alex's All Stars

      June 2, 2011 at 10:24 am

      All great points and I’m very happy to see I have all of these players in my team bar Hodge, Swan & GAJ.

      I’m surprised Stevie J hasn’t had a mention, especially considering his recent form. Jobe Watson must be close to consideration too but I guess we’ll see how he plays post this recent rest.

      • crowsrock

        June 2, 2011 at 10:29 am

        I did consider Stevie J but his average is rather inflated by the 171 and has been off and on and i think Franklin is a better option. Jobe would of most likely made it if he wasnt injured but he is so didn’t get in.

        • jb

          June 2, 2011 at 10:38 am

          i think stevie j is a good option it’s just wether you can afford to have 3 cats as selwood and chappy are must have’s.. unfortunately i started with bartel so getting stevie j would give me 4 cats… can cover 2, 3 is going to be hard but 4 don’t think so..

        • Albert Lloyd

          June 2, 2011 at 11:13 am

          Last 5 games: 104, 97, 127, 95, 171 for an average of 120.

          Not too shabby, is it?

          • jamesnb

            June 2, 2011 at 11:59 am

            Asked and answered

  2. jb

    June 2, 2011 at 10:14 am

    GREAT write up well done !! thanks you have just made up my mind was tossing up between murphy and ablett as my next upgrade and now going with murphy..

  3. Rydo

    June 2, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Hodge for me. J Selwood is a great option, but if you are looking to win your league, you’ll miss out in Rnd 22 when you may need all your guns on board; particularly if you already have Chappy and Stevie J. Hawks are tearing it up DT-wise as well.

    • crowsrock

      June 2, 2011 at 10:19 am

      If your teams good enough you can miss the Cats bye though

    • Ingoes

      June 2, 2011 at 10:21 am

      I am going to win my qualifying final and won’t have a final to play in round 22.

      If I lose my qualifying final, I will be playing a team that didn’t make the top 4 in Round 22. I can carry Jelwood, Enright and possibly Chappy and still win that game.

      In either case, Jelwood will be instrumental in winning my preliminary and grand finals.

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 1:28 pm

        whole lot of water to go under the bridge first mate. Over the next few weeks your team could be weekend and the teams towards the bottom of your league could begin to perform. DT is not that easy friend.

  4. jb

    June 2, 2011 at 10:34 am

    is anyone worried that hawks game plan is THAT obvious and teams will work out that all they have to do is play tight man on man and the hawks will have to change their game plan thus meaning hodge and all his buddies won’t get 13+ plus marks a game anymore.. surely we all remember what happened to their rolling defence that won them the premiership ????

    • Fast Eddie Betts

      June 2, 2011 at 11:35 am

      JB…

      Hawthorn are playing that style of footy as way to try and beat the press that most clubs are implementing this season. There logic is that it is easier to kick the ball, hopefully reatin posession via a mark allowing the player to stop if he needs rather than trying to run the gauntlet and take ther press on with run and carry and handball. The game is always evolving as coaches try and find ways to beat the current trends.
      The press came about as Collingwood tried to find a way to take the corridor of Geelong and stop there run and carry corridor football. As evidenced by last years prelim it worked very well. As is the way of AFL football sides are now implementing their own version of Collingwoods press with varying degress of success. W.Coast are an example of a club that has improved 10 fold from this tatic. Hawthorn coaching staff as reacted to the latest trend by trying to reatin posession with good foot skills until they get a chance to get the ball into the hands of Roughead and Budwood. Sound logic by the Hawks providing their foot skills continue to be up to scratch, kicing sort retaining posession rather than running into the press and turning the footy over in the corridor and bieng scored againt from turnovers. Most other clubs are choosing to kick the ball longer down the line, get a stoppage and back their clearance players to win a stoppage as a way of beating the press. Good luck to the Hawks for being ahead of the game and trying something different by denying sides the footy and playing a posession type of game and owning the football. Great for DT scoring, problme is opposition soides of the Hawks are scoring shite DT wise as they are simply not getting the seed much as the Hawks are retainig so much posession. So to answer your question if a side went man on man against Hawthorn you would expect they would react that tactic accordingly as they would then be able to runa nd carrymuch more in the absence of an oppostion press. Most clubs will continue to press as that is the latest trend and what they ahve worked all summer sometimes 2 pre-seasons on, so it is very hard to change a gampe plan and drill something new into players into the middle of the season. So in summary expeact the Hawks to keep playing the posession chip chip game as there way against th epress and expect the DT 100’s to ocntinue !!!

      • jb

        June 2, 2011 at 11:51 am

        you are 100 percent correct you are very good at reading the game.. im sure they will keep on playing kick to kick but don’t forget they have employed this game plan twice v saints and dogs who are playing very average football atm and have alot of young players who aren’t as clued on.. where as against sydney they didn’t use this game plan.. hence they will use it against the weak teams as they struggle to adapt to game plans.. however against teams like collingwood, cats, blues, eagles and bombers their players won’t allow them to play this way…

        • Shane_o_85

          June 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm

          Nah he’s actually full of sh*t. What he said in 25 lines could have easily been done in 5. Can’t spell either.

          How are ya festie? Make much money on that scam?

          • Fast Eddie Betts

            June 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm

            Can’t spell or can’t type ??

            Cash League is going well numb nuts – is full of competent high scoring DT coaches and devoid of spuds like yourself Shane O !! What is your ranking again 10,000 and what ???

        • Fast Eddie Betts

          June 2, 2011 at 12:47 pm

          JB,

          Teams like Collingwood & Carlton is exaclty who they will use the gameplan against as they are tow of the better exponents of forward pressure and the press.. Hawthorn are playng this way to comabt the press and not give the footy back easily, who they play is irrelevant if teams press against the Hawks they will chip the ball around rather than kick long down the line and risk turning the pill over with handball..

          • jb

            June 2, 2011 at 1:01 pm

            yes but it will come undone these teams will not allow them to do that mick and ratts live and breathe coaching they are masterminds i dare say they already have a plan a through to z in how to stop hawthorns kick to kick.. sure it works v the saints and the dogs because their forward lines consist of young players who aren’t clued on so it’s easy for all of hawks defenders to find space for kick to kick.. where as collingwood will be told to play man on man in their forward line and not allow the kick to kick and if hawthorn try it they will turn the ball over consistanly.. thing is collingwood and the other top teams have 22 players who are exceptional compared to saints and dogs who have 10 or so great players and 10 or so young/average players…. in conclusion hawks will continue this game plan and be great DT sluts but don’t expect them to have 13 + plus marks each v the top 6 teams it won’t happen !! case closed !!

      • Big Feller

        June 2, 2011 at 12:08 pm

        Epic post!

      • adzman

        June 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm

        nice post

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm

        Wow that was umm. long. I like the original question and think it deserves serious thought (not a seriously long essay) but what also needs to be considered is what teams will copy Hawthorn.

        It does not have to be an entire game plan but simple instructions to key individuals; Adock & Hanley or Rawlings & Firrito etc & etc to retain the ball. We’ve seen the innovation, now here comes the imitation?

  5. gilbo18

    June 2, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Do u rekon after i have done all my upgrading i should trade bartel to selwood

    • crowsrock

      June 2, 2011 at 10:45 am

      If you have enough trades and Bartel is still playing a shit DT style game then yes

  6. swanlow36

    June 2, 2011 at 10:55 am

    What are your thoughts on Bartel? Keep or trade jimBob to Hodge or Murphy?

    • FreshPrinceofKP

      June 2, 2011 at 11:00 am

      looking like i will keep him, will be good cover as a 7th midfielder ;)

    • crowsrock

      June 2, 2011 at 11:02 am

      Depends what your trade situation is like. If you have plenty of trades left then it is a good option but if you have used a few trades then holding is perhaps a better option.

      • swanlow36

        June 2, 2011 at 11:19 am

        I’m in a situation on whether to keep or trade Bartel as Bartel is not performing near the level I expected from him.

    • Rabbit

      June 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm

      Obviously can not expect 100+ every week but I would bet you have bigger problems. Keep him and his 80s & 90s and upgrade elsewhere.

      If you are unlucky enough to have him stick with him.

  7. da bar manager

    June 2, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Did a drunk trade late last night, but it was a bloody good one. Got jelwood into my midfield with boyd, pendles, swan, mundy, and rotating swallow with Gu, chapman and goodes. now it’s finished i think

    • Shane_o_85

      June 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm

      Drunk trades, love it!

  8. laine

    June 2, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Just pulled the trigger on:

    D. Harris -> M. Murphy

  9. chris1983

    June 2, 2011 at 11:22 am

    at 400k its hard to look past Ablett. He just got 92 against a good side in Geelong. A good effort. You all know what he is capable of. Are we certain he will get rested? 1 game at most if anything. It’s not like they need to rest him up for finals action. Gold Coast with no more byes also. A good pick as your 6th mid IMO.

    • crowsrock

      June 2, 2011 at 11:29 am

      96, 115, 83, 81, 84, 156, 92 does not inspire me and i will be staying well away.

      Hodge last three: 132, 103, 154
      A. Swallow last two: 116, 116
      Thompson last three: 135, 108, 126

      are all better options in my opinion and hodge and swallow are cheaper

      • jb

        June 2, 2011 at 11:34 am

        agreed like you said don’t get fooled by his 156 v crows they have probably one of if not the weakest midfield in the comp thompson is their only decent mid, not hard to carve up players like van berlo, douglas, doughty, slone…

      • chris1983

        June 2, 2011 at 11:42 am

        If your going to look at the last two for Swallow then why not look at the last two for Ablett. 156, 92. He was always going to get attention from Geelong too. He might be turning the corner and coming into his stride.

        Swallow as a better option? good luck. Hodge and Thompson are worth a look.

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 11:53 am

        I took the plunge on Ablett and I’m pretty confident the little master will be pumping out regular 120s in no time at all.

        • phatmaniac

          June 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm

          im with you! GAJ all the way!

  10. Mega-Goat

    June 2, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Fellow DT’ers, I have a serious problem. My team at the minute is largely filled with rookies, and as the downgrade options seem to be drying up, I am worrying how i will get my money to make the upgrades. Currently in my team I have: Heppel, Duigan, Puopolo, Hibberd, Alex Johnson, Swallow, Curnow, Prestia, Iles, Darling, and Richardson. Will it ever be necessary to sideways trade come the end of the season?

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 11:37 am

      all good the only ones you have missed out on is jacobs and lynch.. there will be more downgrade options to come..

      • Mega-Goat

        June 2, 2011 at 11:40 am

        Crap sorry, I do have Lynch as well. Currently 285k in the bank, Im looking to make some upgrades in the coming weeks to the likes of Sylvia, Chapman and Shaw/Carrazo. Thanks jb

        • jb

          June 2, 2011 at 11:55 am

          it dependes how many trades you have left too if you have more than 14 or 15 i wouldn’t be to worried, if you have less than 10 i would..

    • twiztid

      June 2, 2011 at 11:39 am

      callian cant be far away

      • Mega-Goat

        June 2, 2011 at 11:45 am

        That name rings a bell. Is he the very mature aged rookie at… Bulldogs?

        • twiztid

          June 2, 2011 at 11:47 am

          crows

      • random_guy

        June 2, 2011 at 3:54 pm

        You are right, he should line up at local league level this week. I’d put him at 3-5 weeks away from senior selection if he builds up some form.

  11. Ben1

    June 2, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Got a midfield of
    Swan, Thompson, Gibbs, Bartel, Swallow, Krakouer (Reserves: Bewick, Hibberd/Heppell (DPP), Harris).

    Thinking of Harris -> Mzungu, Swallow -> Murphy

    Would have preferred to trade out Krakouer, but not enough cash. Is it worth getting rid of Swallow, to bring in Murphy ?

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 11:39 am

      definately !! swallow has peaked.. and he will miss at least 2 games before the end of the year IMO..

      • Devo

        June 2, 2011 at 11:51 am

        Sure is. Swallow has peaked, get murphy in this week

  12. twiztid

    June 2, 2011 at 11:37 am

    ive got bartel so selwood doesnt fit my structure just yet i am gonna upgrade last mid to murphy or hodge just cant decide who. current mids are pendles swan boyd mundy bartel murphy/hodge (bewick hibberd smith)

  13. Shersto

    June 2, 2011 at 11:45 am

    I want to get in Boyd OR Franklin this week… given that the Dogs are playing the Cats and Hawks are playing the Dockers, I’m not sure on which way to go… any advice?

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 11:58 am

      mcpharlin will play on buddy.. last week freo got pumped but volt was shut down.. mcpharlin is good and does have the tank to run with buddy through the midfield..

      • jamesnb

        June 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm

        +1

    • THESKULL

      June 2, 2011 at 12:00 pm

      I’d wait on Boyd he’s playing cats at skilled prob with a fiery redhead up his arse

      • Shane_o_85

        June 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm

        Pig can’t run with the players like he used to, I wouldn’t worry about who Boyd has as an opponent, he’s a jet. It’s either him, Selwood, or Pendles for me.

    • Shersto

      June 2, 2011 at 12:04 pm

      Other option is to bring in Murphy instead of Boyd…

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:29 pm

      Buddy has a BE of 72 and Boyd 132 if that helps.

  14. Magoo

    June 2, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Yeah good write up Wecky. I would have to agree with about Ablett, as much as we all love the little master I just don’t see him getting the big numbers consistently, especially in a side that will tire from here on. He’s cheap and has no more byes as we know so coaches will pick him based on that and the fact he is sweet merciful.

    I won’t be looking at him as an upgrade target but good luck to all the coaches that are,he is an out and out champ and I hope he proves me wrong.

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:30 pm

      Me too!

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 12:46 pm

        Stink it up Ablett!!!
        please?!?

        I’m not interested this year but would appreciate a discount in 2012

  15. Devo

    June 2, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Can someone give me some good reasons why I shouldn’t bring in Scott Thompson for Libba as my 6th mid to finish off my midfield? Avg of 110 so far, very durable, looks to be good value at about $410k this week. Can he keep up this form all year?

    Midfield atm is Swan, Pendles, Boyd, J Selwood, Mitchell, Libba (Harris, Hibberd, Prestia)

    Cheers

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      not really he is a bit inconsistant but that doesn’t really matter when he is averaging 110 is only owned by 11 thousand so is very unique.. good pick i reakon..

      • Devo

        June 2, 2011 at 12:26 pm

        Thanks JB

    • clangers

      June 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm

      Will his output be impacted if Vince returns finds some form ?

      • jb

        June 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm

        vince may return but i doubt he will find form ?

      • Devo

        June 2, 2011 at 12:30 pm

        Clangers, how much ball do the crows put through vince?

        • clangers

          June 2, 2011 at 12:37 pm

          No idea. Hence the question mark. The potential for Vince lowering his output and the fact that this is his first year averaging above 110 (after 4 years in the 90’s) is why i’m leaning towards Murphy. I’ll just have to leave a trade up my sleeve come finals

          • jb

            June 2, 2011 at 12:44 pm

            i think the reason thomo is averaging a lot more is he is now the number 1 midfielder in the past he had goodwin and edwards who got alot of it..

          • Devo

            June 2, 2011 at 12:57 pm

            You’ve made a good point, it has got me thinking. I would only be getting Thompson on the basis that he maintains that 110 avg, so if there’s a real risk that he won’t, maybe I should keep my options open

  16. Big Feller

    June 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    I find it almost unbearable knowing the exact trades that I want to do on Monday and having to wait until Friday night to execute!

    This is the longest week ever!!!!!!!!!

  17. hairygrundle

    June 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    does anyone know whats crappening with cameron richardson? would have thought he would have made a comeback to the 1’s after smashing it up in vfl couple of weekends ago?? hes stinking up everyones forward line bench who was stoopid enough to keep hold of him .. at least hes no kayler-thompson from last year.. do we upgrade him or what! surely he’ll be back given norths form… or is there too many in front of him??

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 12:24 pm

      has been the emergancie pretty much every week since his been dropped.. may get a gig this week problem is his last game was 14 so he needs to play 3 more to make any decent money.. roos pretty much have a whole side of players that carve up at vfl level but can’t perform on the big stage..

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm

        Keep an eye on the teams this week. Firritto and Pratt out so both Pederson and Richardson in which a shot.

  18. bigmitts

    June 2, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    gonna go harris – selwood

    which means my mids will be pendlebury boyd selwood redden rockliff bartel

    good call bad call?

    • Big Feller

      June 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm

      Good call – lock on!

    • G-Bangers

      June 2, 2011 at 12:27 pm

      sh#thouse call because it’s not my midfield ! ;)

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:31 pm

      Don’t like Bartel in there but can’t go wrong with Bunnings (y)

  19. hinchdawg

    June 2, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    I got a dilemma, i want both murphy and scotland in the next to weeks but that would leave me with 4 carlton players and i dont want that come round 23 bye, so should i bring:
    1. Murphy, Hodge, Sheilds or Thompson
    2. Suckling, Enright, Scotland or Shaw (after round 13)

    • hinchdawg

      June 2, 2011 at 12:27 pm

      two*

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      I’d stay clear of Enright.

      Wildly inconsistent in the Bartel vein.

      • hinchdawg

        June 2, 2011 at 12:47 pm

        I hate the look of my backline, it has 3 of these 4 playing duigan, lower, jacobs, stanley

  20. Winters

    June 2, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Is Sylvia worth a look from Melbourne?

    I don’t have Chappy either so I am considering one of these two as my upgrade for B Matera.

    Currently have Franklin, Fyfe, Pavlich, Goodes, B Harvey, Darling, A Krakour (Lynch, Richardson) with the DPP link into MIDS with Muzungu and Prestia.

    Would like to hear your thoughts?

    • crispy

      June 2, 2011 at 12:29 pm

      Melbourne has a killer run for DT finals so Sylvia is definitely worth consideration!

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 12:39 pm

        Sylvia much better option than Chappy. His bye is a multi bye so it won’t hurt your league result.

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      Sylvia due to better form, his run home, no finals bye (bye in non league round?).

  21. crispy

    June 2, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Good article, the only problem is there is nothing in here for those of us in the market for defenders!

    My backline is in tatters with only 4 keepers, and that includes Heppell..

    I need to upgrade one of either Lower, L Thompson, Toy or Otten. I’ve already downgraded the others to Puopolo and Jacobs, using most of the cash to finish off my midfielders and forwards.

    I have $220K in the kitty so I can get anyone and was considering Suckling.

    Who do I upgrade though? I am thinking to hold onto Lower as I need his points to cover for Otten, Toy (if he doesn’t play) and Deledio (bye).

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    • G-Bangers

      June 2, 2011 at 12:30 pm

      get rid of Otten and do the upgrade , easy as ;)

      • crispy

        June 2, 2011 at 12:34 pm

        Yeah I almost did that already but thought I’d ask the collective masses permission first! Cheers.

        • Albert Lloyd

          June 2, 2011 at 12:40 pm

          Suckling FTW

          Birchall almost as good!

          Whatever you do, get a Hawk. They are the new DT Sluts.

          • DucKing18

            June 2, 2011 at 1:56 pm

            Cant go past Suckling,

            Although all of the good hawk’s backline are DT sluts this year.

    • Big Feller

      June 2, 2011 at 12:34 pm

      I got Suckling late in the season and haven’t regretted it for a second. Hawks game plan looks to him a lot and he looks like a pretty good sort.

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm

        Late in the season? It’s not even half way yet mate.

    • Rabbit

      June 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm

      Should have read your comment before posting my own. I’m in a similar boat and not happy. I think Suckling is the best option but kind of hurts that he has gone up so much $$$$.

      • crispy

        June 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm

        I agree, but sometimes we make bad decisions! No point dwelling, just have to wear the $150k. I just did :(

        Hopefully he doesn’t make me regret it!

  22. crafer

    June 2, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    enright ??

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      no

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 12:33 pm

        Scores of 62, 88, 94, 63, 74 and 85 in the last 6 plus a finals bye.

        Stay away!

  23. Rabbit

    June 2, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    No backmen, friggen typical. Have had pendles, cox and Franklin from the start and no room for Boyd or Jelwood.

    I have overlooked my defenders for too long and still have Hibberd, Duigan, Lower, Puopolo, Mckernan and Toy. But who do I swap to? Only possibilities are Suckling, Adcock, Shaw & Enright. Yuck.

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      No room for Jelwood or Boyd? Who else you got in there buddy?

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 1:38 pm

        Have Bartel so unless it is a direct trade jelwood equals too many Cats.

        To be honest Boyd could come in but I have bigger problems elsewhere, my mids strongly tied to my fwds thus they are

        Swan, Pendles, Bartel, Watson, Libba, (Prestia, jacobs, Mzungo)

        with the other 2 coming from
        Higgins, Zaha, Pavlich, Fyfe,

        Currently 3 fwds are in my mids thus bringing Darling onto the field. Can’t wait for watson’s return.

        Here is where you tell me to trade out Libba, despite the gaping hole in my backs.

    • 7ator

      June 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm

      Sam Fisher? Lids??

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 12:44 pm

        Both fine picks.

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 1:32 pm

        Got Lids. Fisher is popular in my league but that could be for good reason. To be honest I had not really given him much thought till your post. Perhaps I’ll bring him and Suckling in over the next couple of weeks,

    • DucKing18

      June 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm

      Suckling, Shaw and Adcock yuck?? Please explane!!

  24. crafer

    June 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    What do people think about Harbrow coming good ??

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:45 pm

      Decent for his price. Better options available though. Hasn’t cracked the ton yet.

  25. AzzDawg

    June 2, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Can somone please give me advice on my last trade?
    Steve Johnson, Paul Chapman or Colin Sylvia?
    Going for league win, advice is appreciated

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      SJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

    • crafer

      June 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm

      Sylvia for me

      • Rabbit

        June 2, 2011 at 1:39 pm

        +2

        • Gerryboy

          June 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm

          +3

    • G-Bangers

      June 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      Albert i disagree , he wants the League win ?

      makes much more sense to go for Sylvia with no byes in the finals and he’s been the best forward all year .

      stop giving bad advice …

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 1:36 pm

        It’s called an opinion mate.

        Sylvia has a game in hand on SJ hence his greater score and SJ has a much better last 5 game average.

        • G-Bangers

          June 2, 2011 at 1:42 pm

          so what if SJ missed one game , he’s going for the League win you fool or can’t you read … you talk out of you arse continually !

          • Albert Lloyd

            June 2, 2011 at 1:44 pm

            Whatever mate.

    • AzzDawg

      June 3, 2011 at 11:18 am

      Ha ha thanks for the responses, I didnt mean to cause an all out war. Both sides of the argument has its merits, but I think Sylvia it is, as I already have Selwood, Bartel and Enright for the Geelong bye in the Finals. Cheers (I should have had him from the beginning instead of Brent Harvey!)

  26. Barony

    June 2, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I need some friendly advice

    I want to bring in Muzngu this week and eventually turn a back rook into Goddard.
    (My thoughts are Buckley to Muzngu then Duigan to Goddard)

    I want to upgrade Bartel or Swallow to Selwood (maybe even Swan could be on the fritz) Need cash even though God will not cost me much, I will only get 120K from Buckley and that should go to a forward rook (Sylvia) not sure who to trade.

    80K 12 trades

    Gibbs Adcock Shaw Heppell Enright Stanley Frawley
    Dugian Lower Poo

    Pendlebury Swan Boyd Bartel Swallow Hodge
    Iles Hibberd Buckley

    Sandilands Cox
    Smith McCauley

    Franklin Johnson Chapman Voldt Knights Darling Krakouer
    Lynch Tapscott Prestia

    This is it for me Muzngu is my last down grade. I have only been below 2000 twice this year.

    • Rabbit

      June 2, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      Would you settle for unfriendly advice?

      • Barony

        June 2, 2011 at 2:06 pm

        All is welcome but looking at what I have done so far I need no help, my options are the best available.

        • Big Feller

          June 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm

          So this was an ego stroking post?

        • Turkey Slapper

          June 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm

          Keep Buckley another week at least. He will get more time in the middle with Swan out this week. Maybe only $20K rise in 1 week but all comes in handy.

    • ChampsorChumps

      June 2, 2011 at 2:19 pm

      Hey Barony, I would be tempted to do the following.

      Tapscott – Mzungu
      Buckley – Goddard and use the DPP link with Heppell
      Duigan – Suckling or Broughton (Or someone of the like depending on cash)
      Iles – Smith (You can then use your DPP links with Mzungu and Chapman for extra cover)

      That will give you strong cover in your mids for the Collingwood bye, strong players and greater flexibility with minimal trades. You would also still have 8 trades left for LTI’s and finals.

      Just a few thoughts.

      • ChampsorChumps

        June 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

        With those trades at today’s prices you would have $55,600 in the kitty to upgrade Bartel if you so desired …

  27. adzman

    June 2, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    is anyone at all looking at michell for the bargain price??

    proven player….had his down patch – can break a tag (remember the first 5 games this year?)

    in a team that is slutting up.

    i’m feeling tempted.

    people get agro cause he scored 13 points in the 2nd half last week but if you pretend you didnt know the score all game and got home to see he got a ton you would be happy!

    i want to find reasons not to take him…. hit me!

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 12:55 pm

      Doesn’t he take the hardest tag?

      Prone to getting 90s in the first half then ending up with 105. Not fun.

      Hodge and Shiels better options from Hawks IMO.

    • THESKULL

      June 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm

      His kids don’t let him sleep so he is always tired in the second half
      ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • THESKULL

        June 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm

        Has bad B.O

        Tells lies to other players.

        Word is he slept with Hodgeys missus and thats why he gave up the captaincy.
        Hodgey was really cool about it though

        • adzman

          June 2, 2011 at 1:45 pm

          good reasons by all!

          how could you sam – here i was thinking it was just the dodgy hammies

          hmm back to the drawing board for my final upgrade

    • cranker

      June 2, 2011 at 1:01 pm

      I am seriously thinking about Mitchell too – my main concern is DT Grand Final day, when Hawthorn plays GC at Metricon. If the Hawks are in a set spot on the ladder (eg have tied up 4th spot etc) will they leave a few players in Melbourne with “general soreness”?

      His be is 106 this week, so you could also wait one more week to be sure he is back in business before jumping on without his price going up too much, or possibly even going down a little.

      Same problem applies to Hodge I reckon re DT Grand Final too.

      Of course, on the flipside if Mitchell/Hodge do play in round 24, they most likely will smash it against GC.

  28. billy78

    June 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Goin well so far this season with 13 trades left and 89 000 in my hand
    thinkin

    Richardson/matera for mzungu
    the j voldt to someone to less than 400 000

    next week Darling to didak
    and shuey to ?????

    which leaves me with 9 trades reamining, a team im happy with and good cover in every position!!
    not sure who to trade in for jvodt and shuey though any ideas???? thanks

    • Brak

      Brak

      June 2, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      Chappy is now a bargain at under $400K. Look at the 2 MBR’s in Rd 16 (ADE, FREO, MELB) and 19 (BRIS, RICH, SYD) to get someone in that doesnt cause donuts.

      • billy78

        June 2, 2011 at 1:36 pm

        already got him, buddy sylvia and higgins up foward

  29. Brak

    Brak

    June 2, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Was going to try and keep Swallow as my 7th mid but am now thinking that if I have Jacobs with DEF DPP and Mzungu with FWD DPP surely that is going to be good enough cover. Should I upgrade him now to Murphy/Ablett etc or leave Swallow as my 6th mid for 3 more weeks to then get Pendles. Decisions, decisions.

  30. Fast Eddie Betts

    June 2, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    @JB you just don’t get it do you….
    Collingwoods whole game plan and success is based on the press. If the revert away from that against hawthorn then that is a winf ro the Hawks.. Colljngwood rely on team defence and the press as the majoirty of thier defenders are very ordinary one on one. ht eprime example being the poor mans Jason Cloke Nick Maxwell. Maxwell, Shaw, Obrien are all good players, great at zoning off giving each other chop outs but none of them can defen one on one.. Hence Collingwood would never go man on man

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 2:01 pm

      they are all defenders they are not the ones playing man on man.. the forwards are.. hawks aren’t chipping it around in their forward line are they ??? they are chipping it around in their backline so that means players like beams, krak, blair, cloke, dawes and anyone else who plays forward instead of zoning off like they normally do will be told once hawks have the ball to play man on man hece hawthorn will have nobody free to kick to and if they do try and chip it around still they will turn it over.. seriously dude these are proffesional teams they have meetings numerous times a week to discuss game plans if you think collingwood can only play using the defensive press you are wrong..

      • Shane_o_85

        June 2, 2011 at 4:13 pm

        Told you he was full of sh*t….and can’t spell.

  31. matty_

    June 2, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    I am torn on thoughts for trading this week…I want to get in on Gu, and also feel like I should be getting off D. Harris, but not sure what the best options are for the upgrade.

    Team:
    Backs: Deledio, Gibbs, Heppel, Goddard, Stanley, Broughton, Lower (Duigan, Batchelor, Jacobs)
    Mids: Swan, Pendles, Boyd, Mitchell, Hodge, Krak (Harris, Bewick, Hibberd)
    Ruck: Cox, Petrie (Sandi, Smith)
    Fwds: Franklin, Sylvia, Fyfe, Goodes, Chappy, Knights, Darling (Matera, Lynch, Richardson)

    15 Trades left, only 4k in the kitty.

    Was thinking:
    Darling -> Gu (Leaves me with 175K)
    Harris -> Premium (under 409K) Ablett / Riscatelli / Rockliffe / Judd to replace krak on the field

    Or going:
    Harris -> Gu
    Darling -> Premium fwd (Under 409K) ROK / Pav

    Appreciate suggestions on the upgrade targets – Or maybe I would be better off going for two downgrades, offload both Harris and Matera and get cashed up for next round of trades…

    Opinions?

    • Barony

      June 2, 2011 at 2:05 pm

      Keep Darling, trade Richardson to Gu and Smith to Bailey That will set your rooks and give you money to upgrade Matera and Harris

    • DucKing18

      June 2, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      Krak, Lower and Darling are the 3 players i would be looking at upgrading.

      Beware of the multi bye rounds coming up esp in your forward line.

      I would be looking at someone like Suckling in your defense. Then Riscatelli for your mid’s as a bit of a unique pick. I would stay away from Pav as you already have Avatar, Sylvia and Knights. (all with multi bye together)

      Maybe someone like Boomer Harvey as a bit of a unique pick??

    • DucKing18

      June 2, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      Krak, Lower and Darling are the 3 players i would be looking at upgrading.

      Beware of the multi bye rounds coming up esp in your forward line.

      I would be looking at someone like Suckling in your defense. Then Riscatelli for your mid’s as a bit of a unique pick. I would stay away from Pav as you already have Avatar, Sylvia and Knights. (all with multi bye together)

      Maybe someone like Boomer Harvey as a bit of a unique pick??

      Regards

      DucKing18

    • Brak

      Brak

      June 2, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      Tough call I agree, we all want Mzungu in but we dont want to trade out good solid players like Darling and Harris, and our other bench cover hasn’t fattened up enough yet.

      Remember Gu cant step in for Sylvia, Fyfe or Knights as they all miss Rd 16 which means you do need to keep Krak for DPP (and hope Richo plays?)

      I guess it would be nice to downgrade Batchelor but I don’t know who to, anyone getting on C Howard? I know nothing about this guy.

    • Turkey Slapper

      June 2, 2011 at 3:41 pm

      You need to get Petrie on your field in forwards and move Krak out of your side. Swap Krak with Sylvia between Forward/Mid link. Downgrade Krak to Tippet Ruck/Forward. Sub Petrie with Tippett. Then you will have Petrie and Smith on your field instead of Petrie and Krak and have banked some cash. Also you will then have the DPP link to Ruck for when Sandi comes back and then you will be able to downgrade Smith closer to final for a hell of a lot of cash for final upgrades.

  32. Funny Rooster

    June 2, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Hi guys,

    I’m on a quick lunch break so did not see if there was much response to Fast Eddie Betts’ info on the Hawks game plan, other than some verbal stoush re: the cash league, lol. But I would just like to say that I concur with what he was saying about the intention of the Hawks gameplan. For me, a Hawks supporter, they seem to have 2 gameplans. Game plan A as discussed by Fast Eddie and Game plan B.

    Gameplan A which is Clarko’s preferred plan to hopefully beat Cats and Pies is garbage and though I sorely needed the junk points to win my Eliminator on the weekend, its no chance of beating a decent team, basically cos in all the quarters of footy they’ve played it that I’ve seen this year I reckon I could count the no. of goals we kicked in thos quarters on one hand. Gameplan B, where we have a forward line is when we have kicked goals and won our games. I kid you all not, Gameplan A, is frickn impotent and we struggle to beat cellar dwelles using it. Sure its nice for the DT points when nobody mans up on us and we pass it around, but decent teams score well on us anyway and we CAN’T score at all, so its garbage.

    I’d prefer it if the Hawks coaching staff recognise that we have some fair offensive players and in our own right could beat anyone, rather than wasting our guns and playing negative bs footy that sees us kick no goals.

    Anyway, thats off my chest..and I can say that I’m considering Guerra, or maybe I will wait for next year as he seems to play 1 or 2 of those types of games each year, much like Bowden smashing the marks.

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      yes exactly !! somene else who agrees with me.. it will not work against the good teams they will try it but it won’t work !! although hats off to them for atleast trying something to beat the pies..

  33. The Spuds

    June 2, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    is it worth trading out A. Swallow for L. Hodge because Swallow has the bye first week of the finals
    and who is a good upgrade option for my foward line that has buddy, fyfe, sylvia, goodes?

    • DucKing18

      June 2, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      CHAPPY

  34. 2pops2

    June 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    need to upgrade a defender to complete my backs…… who is the best option out of suckling/scotland/broughton (possible dark horse)
    any advice would be great

    • jb

      June 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      if hawks continue playing kick to kick definately suckling stay away from broughton and scotland is solid always has been always will be..

  35. The Juddernaut

    June 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Trades this week:

    matera- mzungu

    libba/harris – m.murphy
    Who would be better to trade out, libba or harris.

    Also who would be a better sixth mid, mitchell or montagna.

  36. Silky Smooth

    June 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    definitely want to get selwood in and have 47,100 in the bank. can either downgrade darling for mzungu and upgrade harris for jelwood. Or i can downgrade kraks for mzungu and upgrade liberatore to selwood. Just cant afford to go libba-mzungu harris-selwood. Leaning towards kraks and libba for mzungu and selwood, but unsure. What do people think?

  37. Kevin Arnolds Dad

    June 2, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Just a general note on Hawks defenders. I opted to go Birchall over Suckling and haven’t regretted it for 1 second.

    If you want a little of uniqueness to your team, go Birchall!

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      +1

      Birchall is ripping shit up.

      But don’t listen to me, apparently I give bad advice. *~*

  38. Fat Cops

    June 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Backs: Gibbs, Shaw, Deledio, Goddard, Rance, Heppel, Lower (Puopolo, Luke Thompson, R.Tarrant)

    Mids: Swan, Pendles, Bartel, Mundy, Swallow, Curnow (Harris, Prestia, Hibberd)

    Rucks: Cox, Sandilands (Smith, Fraser)

    Forwards: Franklin, Fyfe, Stevie J, Chappy, Knights, Petrie, Mzungu (Mckernan, Lynch, C.Richardson)

    12 Trades, 182K, Rank 22,506 (Worst rank in years. Very poor start to 2011, however only interested in winning the league as we have a $50 entry and some coin on the line.)

    Have already pulled the trigger on Matera to Mzungu this week. Have one more trade to make this week. At this stage I am thinking of going Harris to Thompson or going Swallow to Boyd.

    Over the next week or two, I’d like to have both Boyd and Thompson in somehow. Didak and Broughton are also desirable and then sit on my trades to cover LTI’s and finals. Any suggestions???

    • Silky Smooth

      June 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      get thompson first by getting rid of harris. purely because harris will most likely go down and thompson will most likely go up or stay the same. Then trade in swallow for boyd the next week. Also id stay away from broughton and didak for a bit longer as it is a big risk and you would want to be pretty sure of it, can never tell for sure though. they are looking like great options

      • Fat Cops

        June 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm

        I’m definitely sold on the Thompson and Boyd combo. Will have to downgrade someone else to get some coin for Swallow to Boyd. Possibly Fraser as he’s sitting at 240k and have Smith as coverage once Sandi comes back.
        Am thinking of waiting another week for Didak as he’ll drop at least once more and it gives me a chance to see if he’s form is turning around. Think Broughton has turned the corner already and he’ll rise at least 30k this week and possibly the same the following week meaning if I want him, the trigger needs to be pulled sooner rather than later.

        • Silky Smooth

          June 2, 2011 at 3:08 pm

          yeh i see what your saying about broughton, il never touch him again just cos i had him from the start haha. um your probably still better of upgrading your mids first as will make the most difference and keep curnow as your 7th mid. Then maybe look to get didak in couple of weeks

          • Fat Cops

            June 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

            Yeah still not 100% sold on Broughton. Although if he could return to his best, at a sub 300k price, he’s a bargain. I’m also looking at Adcock to come into contention given his 50 score last week and the likelyhood his price will tumble. Scotland would be good, but has a bye in the last four rounds so I’ll be steering clear since Gibbs is already there.

    • ChampsorChumps

      June 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm

      Hey Fatcops, it might actually be wise to stay away from Thompson … Looking at your team and links, you already have Fyfe, Mzungu and Knights affected by the round 16 bye and you have Mundy in your mids. just thinking with Thompson there, and Hibberd and Prestia doubtful starters you might suffer a few donuts in round 16 unless you do further trades.

      Just a thought …

      • Silky Smooth

        June 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

        he said hes going for a league win so it shouldnt bother him

      • Fat Cops

        June 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm

        Thanks mate.

        I’d noticed that combo, Lower was in there too. I’m not going to be winning myself a car though!! Just chasing a few hunge from the League wins and a sh*t load of bragging rights to go along. A few donuts for the fat cop won’t hurt the waste line much more and I’m sure I’ll recover.

  39. Camoflage

    June 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    ok so heres the dilemma: $266k in the bank.

    LIBBA -> MURPHY (pocket 140k)

    or

    LIBBA -> MITCHELL ; KRAK -> SYLVIA

    • Silky Smooth

      June 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      second option will improve scoring the most. depends how many carlton you have re murhpy trade

      • Camoflage

        June 2, 2011 at 9:19 pm

        only murph and gibbs so not really a problem

  40. Big Feller

    June 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    I’ve noticed in a lot of posts that a fair few players have a bunch of cash in the bank! I don’t think I’ve ever had more than $10K.

    Is it better to have the cash as a back up or have a fully utilised team on the park each week?

    • Silky Smooth

      June 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      @big feller. id much rather have a great team than lots of cash thats for sure. There are a lot of variables involved and i difinitive statement cant really be made. A lot of the time its just the way trades work out and not the fact that people have planned to have a certain amount of money left over.

      • jb

        June 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm

        yeah for example the last 2 weeks i have brought in hibberd, puopulo, jacobs, lynch because for me the most important thing is to get the best rooks and right now is cashing in season.. other people like to do a downgrade and upgrade instead by either bringing in cows after 0 or 1 games or passing on them… my theory is the right rooks are number 1 because once they have played their 3rd they are gone where as premiums go up and down all every week and can get them at anytime..

    • Albert Lloyd

      June 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      I think your cash reserves really depends on what rookies are on offer at a particular week.

      If there are 2 rooks on the bubble one week and you have a couple of fattened cows, obviously you are going to want to get them both in before they rise in price so you might carry around a shit load of cash for a couple of weeks.

      I’ve done ~2 to 3 downgrades and 1 upgrade in the last 2 weeks because of rookies on the bubble meaning I have 200K in the bank and even more after this week.

      Then I can do 2 big upgrades the following week when I’ve got my rookies sorted.

      • Big Feller

        June 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

        Cheers lads – guess I’ll have to adopt that strategy for DT12!

        • Albert Lloyd

          June 2, 2011 at 3:24 pm

          I wouldn’t use my strategy for overall win though – I’m looking from a league win POV.

      • Albert Lloyd

        June 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

        Also, your opponents quality has a bit to do with your decision making process aswell.

        Maybe one week you are playing a really strong opponent and can’t afford to hold off bringing a big gun in to strengthen your team.

        Maybe another week you can afford to carry a few underperformers and not use any cash.

        As with everything in life, it’s all about timing.

        • jb

          June 2, 2011 at 3:31 pm

          good advice ! don’t know why assholes out there give u shit mate ? you give good advice..

    • TeeTee

      June 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm

      I like to have 30-40k in the bank so that if (or more likely when) I get hit with an LTI, I have a bit of flexibility to trade an injured premo for another, especially if my injured premo drops in price due to his recent injury-affected game. Of course, there are other variables that come into play, like the injured premo’s BE before his injury-affected game, etc… It’s a ‘rainy day’ luxury more than anything else. :-)

    • Brappinalong

      June 2, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      Way, way better having a utilised team then ca$h in the bank, my team has 19 premiums now + Knights, Petrie and a back rookie. I’ve gone through my trades fast (11 left) yet my team is almost complete. I’m in a position where I have milked EVERY cow I have. Now I can only downgrade 1 maybe 2 more rookies (Jacobs,Mzungu,Smith) to upgrade someone to Scotland and/or to Chappy- saving trades for the inevitable LTI’S,”Soreness” and finals.

      I’ve used the downgrade/upgrade strategy weekly and it seems to have paid off. Ca$h in the bank=lost points. And there’s no point chasing every good rookie to milk simply because you’ll run out of trades to profit off them!!

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