DT TALK 2010: Episode 4

Oh yeah! We are back! After the turmoil of the last week with our website, we have whacked together an episode for this week which will hopefully make you feel good about your team… especially if you’re doing better than us!


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Highlights include:

  • The Dream Team Bunch… ala The Brady Bunch – DT Talk style.
  • Advice on trading and not wasting your trades!
  • Calvin copping it from Presti the Parrot about his captain selections.
  • Chopper chopping Mark Seaby.

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956 Comments

  1. FANTASTIACLLY funny show guys.
    Especially loved chop, and the bit about seaby being like an orange cream buiscut……, someone thought hey lets put orange in between 2 buiscuits and tasted it and went YUK! CLASSIC!
    YEP, BEST CHOP EVER!

  2. Welcome back guys. Good advice on trades especially since I have Mitchell Boyd Shuey in my mids and Hitchcock and Roberts in my forward line. I am tempted to downgrade Danger or Hall to POds to free up cash to trade Shuey to Swan.

    I better take note of the community service announcement and sit tight and maybe cop a doughnut this week , right Warnie?

    • Yeah. Wait and see how long Boyd will be out for and Mitchell proably won’t miss. Stick with it! Still money tone made out of those other dudes!

      • Thanks Warnie. I am still tempted by Hitchcock to Pods if Hitchcock gets dropped. But I hear “dont trade side ways ” and “Hitchcock is not ready to be milked yet” , and “wait until round 6-9″, but the devil in me wants to trade when i see a bargain like Pods or Swannie for that matter.
        Don’t you love DT? What do I do after September?

  3. Awesome vid guys. Although Julian Lennon wasn’t assassinated. I don’t even think he was born in 60. John Lennon was shot in 1980, though, haha. Keep up the great work. Funny stuff and informative!

  4. Whats everyone’s opinion of Warren, worth keeping another week or worth the trade to downgrade to pods? The same might go for Danger but hes more likely to get a higher score

    • Hang tight with him imo. He hasn’t played that well yet in struggling side, but really hasn’t lost any money either. If he pulls 1 or 2 big game (80′s) u will benefit from that as well as have better idea of who to upgrade him to!!!!

  5. warnie, what is your opinion on how many people from each team you should have in your team. currently, i have: steve johnson, enright and bartel all from geelong and have enough coin to buy ablett. My only problem is, is four players from the one team too many? i dont want to overload my team in case they have a really bad game and all of them dont get good scores

    • My nephew has Ablett, Bartel,Corey,Chappy,Johnson & Duncan and scored just under 2100!
      I guess they are such a high possession side which helps, plus kicking 20+ goals most weeks doesn’t hurt either!

    • I did some last minute shuffling before the round 1 lockout only to find in horror that I had SIX fremantle players (5 on field, 1 on bench). Fortunately of those players, the only one I actually regret (and i still think he has the potential to come good), is Ballantyne. Indeed, the last few weeks I have resisted the urge to put Alex Silvagni on the field simply because I would have 6 freo players playing, thats more than 1/4 of my team! Of course it turns out that each week Silvagni would had done better than my 7th back and it has cost me points!

      While spreading out your players is good, at the end of the day I think you just have to pick the player thats gonna put the most points on the park and lets be honest there are not going to be too many players that put more points on your score than Gablett. There will not be many weeks when having too many geelong players is going to bite you in the bottom.

  6. Funniest article, (afl website,) relating to Dreamteamers, Seaby looking to turn tables on former mentor….
    Good luck scoring 20pts! Oh shit, that’s right, i’ve got him.
    Might star Warnock instead? whoopee, he’ll get 30!
    Coxy, keep getting fitter, but dont score too high, Round 7, you’re IN!

  7. I agree, it was the best chop ever.

  8. quality episode boys.

    absolutely hate sideways trades, sure i’m starting to think that luke ball is mince (the kid went totally missing and the pies still ran over the hawks) but you gotta keep faith. same goes for warren etc.

    anyone know dane swans break even, have the cash to uprgade from connors after the mitch clark, reiwoldt nonsense but maybe will wait a week if he is going to dip a little. same goes for selwood and hayes.

    ps, best. chop. ever.

    • According to FanFooty, Swan’s breakeven this week is 126. Pies play the bombers then Tigers in the next fortnight. Swan may be close to bottoming out. I’m not sure how people are scoring against the Bombers but he should smash the Tigers, unless Jackson tags him out? But I doubt that. Might be worth the risk to wait one more week. But that’s my (probably wrong) opinion.

  9. Those orange cream biscuits are really the shittest biscuits ever made.

  10. I don’t really mind that Seaby is doing shit because Tippett (who i traded him in for) is doing just as bad or worse, Seaby can lift and whip out another 100+ game…and Tippett is carrying injuries

    • Im in the same boat, with the amount of money i saved by trading Tippet after round 2 to Seaby makes his terrible scores look just average.

  11. You guys are from Tassie? Shit I knew something was off with you boys!
    But on a serious note, you are obviously footy fanatics, why the f**k would u live in Tasmania?

    The 4 of you could get an awesome apartment in Richmond the heart of football and u also dont have to have sex with your cousins. Its a win win.

    • Orbs you dumb shit… tassie is the engine room of Australian Football. Matthew Richardson do i need to say more. You are right that there is no such thing as a football fanatic in Tasmania because we all obviously play croquet. Here is a heads up from a Tasmanian who would obviously know nothing about football. Maverick Weller have him in your DT next year, get on board Orbs!!

      • haha Tom you DUMB SHIT! How many games are played in Tassie a year? I dont give a f**k who comes from there, im well aware Tassie has produced some footballing legends. But lets just clarify;

        You have no actual side! And get about 3 games a year out of f**king sympathy because the rest of the nation feels sorry for all you inbreds. The AFL is actually putting 2 sides into the AFL in states that already have them not to mention Rugby states over giving you guys a team.

        I reckon New Zealand are more of a chance that getting a side than Tassie.

        All i was merely suggesting to the DT boys was to get of the island, come to the main land, but an AFL membership and watch as many live games at the G and Etihad as you want.

        • Alastair Lynch.

        • i heard tassie is quite nice actually. its pretty easy criticizing it. but i won’t considering i haven’t been.

        • I’ve found that most people that bag out Tasmania haven’t been there. Those that have been there, love it. With a few exceptions I’m sure.

          Just for fun, a list of well known VFL/AFL players from Tasmania.

          Matthew Richardson
          Ian Stewart
          Darrin Pritchard
          Darrell Baldock
          Royce Hart
          Peter Hudson
          Rodney Eade
          Michael Gale
          Brendon Gale
          Alastair Lynch
          Adrian Fletcher
          Simon Atkins
          Grant Birchall
          Brad Green
          Brady Rawlings
          Jack Riewoldt
          Russell Robertson
          Jade Rawlings
          Brodie Holland
          Doug Barwick
          Graham Wright
          Roy Cazaly

          (David Neitz, Nick Riewoldt and Garry Lyon are among those born in Tas, but never played at a major level there)

          There’s plenty more, too. Some great players, there.
          Anyway, that was just a list for fun, not trying to get into the Tassie debate.

          • This has turned pear shape! haha I promise not to slag off Tassie anymore, im sure it is a lovely place!
            And yes it has prodcued some quality footballers.

            Im just saying it must suck, to not have your own side. I know if i loved football as much as you guys do and it was prodimently played in Tassi i would move there for the season. Its all about getting amongst it!!

          • Andrew Dunkley

    • A Tassie guy goes up to his dad and says, “Dad, I’m so excited, I’ve met the woman I’m going to marry. She’s smart, beautiful, funny, kind, generous, and best of all, she’s a virgin.”

      His dad says, “Forget about her, son. If she isn’t good enough for her family, she isn’t good enough for ours.”

      P.S. Graham Wright was fricken awesome. Bet that guy never shagged his sister even once

  12. Great show guys, wondering what is going to happen to hodgey’s scores now that sewell is comin back in?? probably drop off the pace a bit?

    • Nah, not with Gibson still out, he’ll always drop deeper in defence. Sewell’s inclusion along with Young having got his first game under his belt will affect Peterson and to a lesser extent Rioli. Hodge is too good not to rack it up.

    • How do u figure that!!!!!!
      Hodge will only benefit from having another gun back. Hodge is a his DT best when he has freedom to run where he likes and take on the play. Drops back 4 marks in defence, roams fwd and kicks goals etc………..
      Against the Pies on the weekend he dominated the first half and fell away in 2nd when the game had been lost, so as i see it the longer the Hawks stay in the game the bigger scores he will get!!!!!!

  13. Harry O’Brien is pissing me off. Has a great NAB Cup, scores 100 in his first game in the season proper, and since then has three successive scores of 60. Not f**king good enough Harry!!! The only thing saving him is that I’ve also got Waite who is another teaser stallion whose worth in my team still can’t be determined. Throw into the mix Rick Ladson, another c**t, this time because he goes missing for entire quarters like a forward-pocket and there’s three blokes who I have to sit on and hope they go the right way. Obviously Ladson is untouchable at the moment because he’s not fat enough but you other two had better pull your fingers out.

  14. goodbye warren… hello rockliff

  15. gold episode. i think presti’s antics are stealing the show! gotta love that parrot.

  16. Bit off topic I know but was wondering if virtualsports had given you any idea of what is going to happen with the bye next year for DT? Obviously the most logical way to deal with it would be to give blokes their average score when they not playing, but wasn’t sure if they had given you an indication of any other system they might use until the waste of space GWS enters the comp (should be a Tassie team in my mind, but Demetriou is obviously a knob)?

    • Never thought of the average thing, not a bad idea. I could see it being somehow exploited though. People trading for guns not playing and then making them captain to win league games perhaps?

      One approach would probably be an extended bench and slightly bigger salary cap. This is touch and go though as it would give you the ability to load more premiums into your side from the start which could have a slight impact on the important of rookies.

      I think by far the best option would be a substitute system. If you have say 2 collingwood players and they have the bye this week. Then you can simply sub them to any other player for the round for the same or lesser value. This would add a whole new dimension and strategy to the game and would be a refreshing change.

      So if I had Swan 500k and Medhurst 300k, it would give me 800k of subs for the week for these 2 players. You would obviously have to replace them in the same spots but you could downgrade swan to say selwood for 400k and then have 400k left to go medhurst to steve johnson. Then at the end of the week the players go back into your side. I think that would make the game so much more amazing! And a lot of straetgy could go into it, especially if your subs could be captain. Bring in a gun and put a C on him because they are playing Richmond.

      • Yeh thats probebly the best option, hope they look into it!

      • Too complicated I reckon, they won’t do that… maybe just keep it the same as it is now, increasing the importance of having bench players that play and not having too many from 1 club. :)

  17. Calvin: How much money would it take to keep your Captains Curse away from both Hawk Players (especially Hodge) and players in my DreamTeam? Surely Jono Brown or Brennan would be a great captain this week? ;-)

    • Ha ha, CC’s is up 2mrw night and I’m still not sure who I want to give a hammy injury to this week.
      Wont be Hodgey though. his record at Aurora in 2009 was bad and his history Vs Nth isn’t great.
      Maybe Mitchell is due to make his last weeks injury a little worse :)

  18. Medhurst or Zieball > Rockliff or Pods?????
    f**k, i just cant make up my mind

    • Medhurst to Rockliff

      • Thatr was my original thought, i havent seen Rockiliff this year though, will he hold his spot?

        • That’s not up to me haha. Rockliff was most damaging in the last quarter when the game was on the line. He created two or three assists for shots on goal playing as an attacking midfielder/half forward. Any fair-minded observer would say that he definitely had more impact on the game than either Redden or Rich which bodes well for his job security at this stage.

          I traded volt for him last week and am teetering on the brink of thinking I need Pods too. I’m not convinced that he’ll play as many games, but with so many peeps trading for him, the situation might develop that there becomes the haves and the have-nots. If you don’t have him and he smashes it, you’re rooted and if you have him and he goes no good, you haven’t really lost a whole lot and would at least have got some cash out him.

          • Also thinking I need to bring in Rockliff and Pods (The 2 fwd rookies I started with prior to round 1 teams). Roo to Rockliff looks likely. Gumby probably wont make that much more so him to Pods gives me 70 000 plus Pods price rise which will go close to 70 000. I will drop a keeper but will have 440 000 plus Rock n Pods price rise to play with later. Their job security is the main issue but surely Rock, Pods and Peterson wont all get dropped I’m hoping

          • @GingerNinja

            You don’t really need to trade for both, Petersen is scoring fine and rising in price nicely…

            But if you absolutely feel like trading for both Rock and Pods, I’d leave Gumby in your squad and trade out Petersen… Sure Gumby’s a bit of a spud, but he has far more job security than Petersen! As long as Gumby is fit, Knights will play him… so he can just sit there as your 9th forward and provide cover if you cop a couple of injuries at the same time.

            Plus you’ll have extra money in the bank by trading out Petersen.

    • Depending on who else you have, I would consider both with the thought at least one of them will probably be you 8th forward from here on in! There will probably more good rookies later but these guys look good now and why not jump on. That will also give you lots of cash for future weeks upgrading other guys.

    • Get Podsaidly.

    • Medhurst>Pods

      I personally am going

      Hitchcock>Pods
      Medhurst>Brennan (which I should have done last week. 40K mistake)

      Forget Brennan’s scores. Look at the way that mofo is going about his footy. As ridiculous as NicNat and I’m looking forward to having them both in my team

  19. You guys are classic, sure you are fun to have a beer with. do you have other jobs or is this it? and other than the free boags, what do you get out of this?

  20. Warnie, Calvin, Roy, Chop

    Sincere apologies for missing the festivities at Crown last weekend…. Fiji + small village food and water = tap ass + sleep…. Missed catching up with you guys like Matt did buying you what sounded like 1000 Bundies while I rested on Little Collins haha. Glad my team is as bad as yours, and glad you were entertained by my Mad Monday story after last year and not picking Barlow from that start…

    Get back to class.
    Cutter

    • hahaha it was awesome that you missed the boys at crown cutter. Too bad I was buying them bundies and not you!

      Great work again boys, best Chop ever! I love the fact Chop was so excited that I actually recognized him out. I have a feeling I know what Warnie was having a laugh about at the end too. You OLD DOG WARNIE!

  21. Great Video boys….. CHOP

    Ok how would you sub in the forward line this round if you were me.

    I have Brown, Rok, Goodes, Balla, Hall, Ziebs, Pods, Franklin, Gumby

    • Noone. Save em. Your forward line is ok.

    • Bench Gumby, Hall emergency

      • Hall will kick at least 4 goals against Adelaide, but probably more like 6.

        • Thats what im hoping, GO HALLY.
          And others starting are Brown,Pav/Balla/Mayne, (vs rich-RUN RIOT BOYS!) Ziebell and Pods, with Petersen emerg, and roberts(might get a game and rise a couple hundred bucks! lol

          • Bench Ziebell and Gumby, and pray that Ballantyne rips up Richmond and doesn’t spend the whole game with his thumb up his ass like he did against St Kilda.

          • Thanks everyone…. its tough.
            I already benched Ziebell and gumby, Zieb will be emergency. I have similar issues with my Backline and who I should put on the bench but atleast back there the difference in scoring each week isn’t like it is in the forwards… so hit and miss this year.

        • Backline for interest is Goddard, Enright, shaw, Kenelly, waters, Silvani, nason, hunt.

          Guess who I put on the bench?

        • Interesting! Barry Hall versus Ben Rutten:

          2009 – 4 goals
          2008 – 1
          2007 – 1
          2006 – 0
          2005 – 2 and 0

          6 games, 8 goals, make of it what you will.
          Granted Rutten had better help in previous outings!

        • He is playing against ben Rutten. One of if not the best FB’s in the competition.

        • @ andrew thats what we all thought when he came up against the tigers but that didnt work at all did it!

  22. anyone know some sites other than this, bigfooty and fanfooty? i already know about http://jackandsamsdt.ning.com and the other ning one….. thanks

  23. @ Mcscoundrel – Podsi looks more like a CHF type with Mooney in the team. Watching him against Freo many of his marks were lead ups from about 40m to the centre. Lats week against Port, he tended to double back much more and take the majority of marks inside forward 50. In saying that though, there wasn’t much of a need to lead up past the 50 as the ball was being pumped in that often. I would use the Freo game as a greater source and say more typically a CHF.

  24. Guys What do I do with KERR
    i will have 443 thousand who do u think i should trade him in for
    K Simpson
    B Gibbs
    C Judd
    J Corey
    Pendlebery
    L Hayes
    Okeefe

    • You got bench cover? If so hold off a couple of weeks and go for Gibbs or Pendles when they bottom out.

    • Gibbs, Pendlebury, Judd, O’Keefe all good options but you’d probably want to wait a week on all but O’Keefe. I waited a week on Riewoldt to get Podsaidly, for a long term injured player going out it’s not the worst thing when you can get another week to judge what’d happen… as long as you have bench cover of course!

      • Are you going Pods or Rockliffe!
        I’ve decided Roo to Pods and Martin to Swan.
        I’m not worried about Pod’s job security, and besides the $367,200 cash injection, its nice to know Pods will be worth around $250,000 ($281,400 according to ffgenie) in 3 weeks time. Games against CARL & RICH, help that cause!

        • That is if he keeps averaging 100 mate. Don’t get too carried away with that figure.

        • Yeh its a good trade. Just don’t think he will average 100 and go to 250k in three weeks. Might be wrong and i hope so cause I am getting him this week most likely. Wasn’t having a go at you or anything.

          • what will he rise 2 if he get 100 this week. AVG of 100…. just want to know cause I had him from the start and he is paying off.

          • Amazingly he will go up $87,500 according to FFGenie. So that takes him to $165,300.

          • It’s ALL GOOD!
            But now the dilemma is for people to decide whether to start him or make him emerg.
            I reckon 75+ against CARL not out of the question.
            Then the following week, the sky is the limit vs RICH @ Skilled, (& Rich coming back from perth!)

    • If McVeigh plays i will just leave kerr on bench
      Then if Juddy plays a good game ill trade kerr for himin time for a price rise,
      If juddy plays crap ill get one of the other blokes

  25. i got mitchell, boyd with shuey and howlett on bench:( is there a chance howlett will play?

  26. Ok, this will probably seem stupid but I’m gonna say it anyway :P

    trade Robbie Gray or Ben Warren for Tom Rockliff. That would then give me room to trade Sam Mitchell for Gary Ablett….

    My 10 year old sister said that to me just then. Is it worth doing for her Dream Team?

  27. Pretty original there Orbs…

  28. dal santo a good midfield choice?

  29. guys, ive got $200,000 in the bank. thinking of trading tippett > podsiadsly, ziebel > brennan. Then in the next couple of weeks, i’ll trade dangerfield > selwood/murphy. what do you think?

  30. Boyd and mitchell both not mentioned in injury lists…

  31. Pods out for 3 weeks with inflated ego…

  32. Ball in doubt with self esteem issues…

  33. Gray on the injury list with his back/hamstring again. Hahaha

  34. I HAVE TO TRADE THIS ROUND as my subs are usless who do u think
    k simpson, bgibbs, M murphy, c judd, (the thing with carlton players is they have all played crap teams) adelaide, richmond and essendon (brisbane) and the next 4 games r geelong, saints, collingwood and port

    and then these gus
    JJ Corey Pendlebery L Hayes all have drop alot in price

    and finaly okeefe he had a great start but slowd down in the last 2 weeks 130, 123, 92, 91 he has 2 home games coming up might score better

  35. Just had a look at that jackandsamsdt.ning.com site looks good needs some more post though. It has a chat so I will be on that most of the time lol.

  36. boyd hasnt been named on the injury list? does that mean a certainty?

  37. Had to trade out Gumby for Pods… Loved this weeks episode… Do you guys have a theory that the info, advice, knowlege etc that you pass on to us mere mortals will eventually make us better than you, reason I’m asking is that I got a higher score than Warnie a couple of weeks ago and this week I have 2066 passing all three of you. Keep up the good work guys!!!

  38. B Nason or M Maguire on my field this week?

    And should i put Pods on the field?

  39. What are people thoughts on Bazza Hall? He has go a nice 100 odd and 3 by 50 odds and has gone up 7 grand. If u have him what are you thoughts on trading him, and when? i am nervous each week, thinking he is gunna lose it and left hook someone who niggles or sledges him too much… then he is suspended

  40. hey, can someone please tell me wtf is wrong with boyd? nothin on afl.com.au or bulldogs site. i watched game this week, seemed fine. i just got him in last week, need him big time this week. gotta a league game against my bro, had already marked him down for a 130+ against crows at etihad!

    • Broken bone in his hand. Was reported in the Herald Sun i believe. Had surgery to fix it during the week and may or may not get up for this week. One week max.

      • f**k f**k f**kedy f**k! i reckon he woulda put up another 150 easy this week against the malfunctioning crowbots. oh well, hopefully m mcveigh plays, coz i got shuey sittin atm aswell. can’t believe i’m lookin at a donut already!

  41. i have 197k in the bank. would you guys trade warren for someone like pav or brennan? i have already used 3 trades so im probably not gonna do anything but watching warren play i rkeon he is gonna get dropped or something soon. i could also trade him for pods and earn an extra 160k which could prove veyr valuable for upgrades.

  42. Hey guys a new site a couple of guys just started check it out http://jackandsamsdt.ning.com have a look i just joined.

  43. I find it funny that we are listening to a bunch of blokes who are probably scoring worse than most of us currently.

    Best score for 2063? thats an okay score.

    The other guys not scoring over 2000 this week? Think I’ll be not bothering to come here anymore.

  44. I’m a different Andrew to the other I saw so Ill change to andrew1

    Cheers.

  45. any thoughts on trading roberts to pods, it will make me a lot of money but i think i might be burning a trade

    • i’d downgrade sum1 else to pods, pocket the cash and leave relton on the bench eating his sangas. that way u get immediate cash injection, and hopefully pods will stick around, improve his price to somewhere between 250-300k and u can then upgrade him to a prem late season

    • It will not make you a lot of money. It will make you precisely $0. It may also create an opportunity for you to use ANOTHER trade to make money. You are as bad as baconb, who adds his profit from the player he’s getting off to the next price rise for the player he’s getting on, and pretends the total is his return from a single trade

  46. Any ideas on when to trade nason? and who to?

    • i’m waiting to see whether ash hams can nail a spot with west coast, he’s priced at 77k. played one game so potential downgrade of either goose or nason to hams could make about 150k plus. whether he can hold a spot is the thing tho, hurn back this week, butler in two weeks i think. brad sheppard could also break in for wce soon, he was named as east freos bog this week in his first game back. phil davis also played first game for crows this week. keep an eye on those three at the mo.

  47. If ball performed well my mid field would be fine, Swan and Bartel are ok. Ball has been a little bit of a dissapointment. Shiels comes back in this week i hope after his suspension, and barlow and bastinac to start. Really tempted to upgrade Ball now to Goddard. I have to save my trades.

  48. Great video guys. Good discussion followed too :)

    You did a great job to recover from the site being hacked.

    Made a facebook group for my fellow ‘dream team addicts’. Feel free to join and let us know ‘signs your a dream team addict’.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118417961508220&v=app_2373072738#!/group.php?gid=118417961508220&ref=ts

  49. anyone thinkin bout the hall to pods trade?? net 200k by doing that

  50. I HAVE TO TRADE THIS ROUND as my subs are usless who do u think
    k simpson, bgibbs, M murphy, c judd, (the thing with carlton players is they have all played crap teams) adelaide, richmond and essendon (brisbane) and the next 4 games r geelong, saints, collingwood and port

    and then these gus
    JJ Corey Pendlebery L Hayes all have drop alot in price

    and finaly okeefe he had a great start but slowd down in the last 2 weeks 130, 123, 92, 91 he has 2 home games coming up might score better..

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