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Fantasy points for and against – Season
| CLUB | PTS FOR | >100 FOR | >120 FOR | PTS AG | >100 AG | >120 AG |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
 ADE | 1489.9 | 2.8 | 0.8 | 1519.8 | 3 | 0.9 |
 BRL | 1557.2 | 2.8 | 1 | 1435.9 | 2.8 | 0.8 |
 CAR | 1592.8 | 3.7 | 0.9 | 1444.1 | 2.2 | 0.5 |
 COL | 1501.2 | 2.5 | 0.5 | 1538.6 | 3.5 | 1.1 |
 ESS | 1462.5 | 2.5 | 0.5 | 1530.3 | 2.9 | 0.7 |
 FRE | 1583.6 | 3.5 | 1.1 | 1432.8 | 2.5 | 0.5 |
 GCS | 1426.4 | 2.2 | 0.5 | 1510.5 | 2.9 | 0.6 |
 GEE | 1577.7 | 2.8 | 0.8 | 1510.3 | 2.1 | 0.4 |
 GWS | 1568.1 | 3.5 | 1.1 | 1483.2 | 2.7 | 0.7 |
 HAW | 1437.3 | 1.8 | 0.2 | 1608.8 | 3.4 | 1.3 |
 MEL | 1525.6 | 3.2 | 1.5 | 1513.7 | 3.2 | 0.8 |
 NM | 1347.1 | 1.8 | 0.5 | 1632.3 | 4 | 1.2 |
 PTA | 1547.2 | 3.2 | 0.9 | 1402.2 | 1.7 | 0.1 |
 RIC | 1472.2 | 2.1 | 0.6 | 1481.2 | 2.8 | 0.8 |
 STK | 1548.9 | 2.9 | 0.4 | 1496.1 | 2.4 | 0.6 |
 SYD | 1478.2 | 2.7 | 0.5 | 1463.8 | 2.4 | 0.6 |
 WB | 1585.2 | 4.9 | 1.6 | 1483.6 | 2.3 | 0.5 |
 WCE | 1414.8 | 1.8 | 0.2 | 1629.6 | 3.5 | 1.5 |
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Thank god those damn byes are over.
Best forward target for butters? Currently have English, Dunkley, Brodie, Cogs, Cameron
himmelberg an option, otherwise gresham seems to be in form
Can trade Khamis and Butters for Hberg and Parnell, good option. Slightly worried about Phil Davis coming back in soon though
If haynes didnt stop himmelberg playing back there I dont see what davis will do. He seems to be just playing as the loose across half back like a lot of teams do. I dont see why theyd swap it around now when its worked 3 games in a row now
Treloar or maybe Libba
Bont
I was also thinking J.Anderson, nice run of games coming up
C Guthrie comes into my Team for Butters
preuss suspended now fuck me just got him in, English an easy swap for him, need witherden to play this week now and my team is back on track
If no witherden ill get parnell and cop an extra on-field rookie for a week with mccomb still onfield in the forward line
My team was meant to be done now at the end of the byes ffs, now preuss suspended if his injury doesnt keep him out means my new recruit has got to go, along with witherden if he doesnt get recalled
Got Preuss-English and witherden to parnell meaning ive gotta field 2 rookies for another week(cant afford to go witherden up to anyone)
If witherden is back ill probably go clark down to someone
I still don’t understand why people would bring Preuss into there team. If not out this week he never is a consistant player. OK by bringing him in gives you much more money for another Premium player. But if a player isn’t playing consistently. At this time of year its not a smart move I don’t think.
well, he was very cheaply priced start at season and had gained quite a bit of cash putting up good numbers. i agree he was never going to be r2 by end of season, likely being chopped around byes. his injury and suspension have made the decision a bit easier. so many rucks have missed games that a lot likely didnt have the luxury to move on earlier. He done his job well increasing cloase to $300k
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Good Luck in 2023
English look to be out for a week or two with concussion following Preuss’s tackle. Damn that tackle, that’s two rucks out in one play. >:(
Preuss is getting closer to the ‘Never trade in again!’ list.
Best option under 730k?
Jackson, Hberg, Salem?
Do you guys think it’s still okay to have to have two rookies on field (daicos and soligo or Clark but probably Clark is going up to laird next week)
You’re not supposed to after the byes, but I still have one after all the other fixes I have had to make. I think there are many in the same boat.
This would not have been the case if Butters could play. I now get to celebrate the departure of Butters from my team. He was definitely a bad decision. Having a rook on-field (also Soligo or Clark) is a small price for seeing the last of Soft-as. He now officially joins my never again list.
Carrol to Ambrosio – 178k
Petracca to anyone.. thinking laird or brayShaw or go Dawson and save 100k
As I have , Duncan, Witts, wines and merret who need to go eventually
Look at that big lug, Preuss, just sitting there, considering: “well, I’ve injured myself, but at least I smashed English so I wouldn’t be playing next week anyway…”
Going:
Gawn to English
Butters to Gresham
Looking good?
Brayshaw, Laird or McRea?
Cogs, Treloar or Libba?
Cogs, daylight, treloar then libba
What’s more important, offload Soligo/Hough as they need to play onfield again or upgrade J Kelly to Brayshaw. Only have 88k in the bank after De Koning to D Cameron (Ruck).
Rookies off field first, but who can you get to with their cash?
Best POD, Tex or Toby?
none of the above
Preuss to Jackson ?
Not as many great ruck options now and not convinced paying up to ROB/Witts/Nank.
The Butters to Gresham or is it Butters to Bont ?
Jackson is the play if you cant afford english I think. Hes got at least a month or so by himself, I dont expect some cameron like scores but he should do better at least with more time around the ball
I have both Butters and Preuss? Any ideas 🥴
Ruck Jackson and Himmelberg forward or whoever is better?
Def: Stewart, Hewett, Sicily, Houston, Rich, Zorko (Naicos, Wehr)
Mid: Oliver, Neale, Macrae, Guthrie, Titch, Petracca, Whitfield, Merrett (Soligo, Stephens)
Ruc: Cameron, Witts (Hayes)
For: Treloar, Cogs, Brodie, Hill, Himmelberg, Hobbs (Windhager, Jeffrey)
Utl: Owens
Bank: 52k
Interim trades:
Naicos to Parnell
Hobbs to English
A bit reluctant as Naicos and Hobbs have more cash to make. Any legends out there have other suggestions?
Thanks on advance!!!
I think zorko’s injured
If Hayes (POR I assume) isn’t selected, he has to go. Down to a red dot most likely (eg Moyle, Comben). If Zorko is not playing then him to Crisp / Doch.
Hayes had a decent game in the SANFL with the most hit outs and the 2nd most marks. Without Lycett or Teakle, I would say Hayes walks straight back into the senior side.
English is now out for 1 week so Hayes will get a crack on my field this week. Hoping for anything over 70
anything over 50 wouldn’t be terrible
Brayshaw or Laird?
Taranto or Treloar?
Brayshaw over Laird
Currently, Treloar over Taranto – would want to see what position Spike plays him
Spike was the Essendon McViegh mate
Essendon McVeigh = Giants Coach
Even with Laird playing Roos this week?
Brayshaw has a higher ceiling, but Laird has the best run of all the premos. Like on the weekend, you can expect regular 120+ scores from Laird, but not much in the way of 130+, like Bray is capable of. I have both, and they are both great options.
If Taranto is fit, I would go with him, but there is also the question of how he will fit into the team with the new coach. Treloar has less question marks, so at present, he is the better option. Taranto is certainly cheap, especially compared to what we know he can do, but it may be worth a week to see how he goes.
DEF: Hewett, Docherty, Dawson, Sicily, Whitfield, Rich (SFK, Wehr)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Kelly, Macrae, Miller, Cripps, Hately, Hobbs (Soligo, Windhager)
RUC: English, Preuss (Teakle)
FWD: Dunkley, Coniglio, Butters, Brodie, Coleman, Martin (Durdin, McComb)
UTL: Owens
Cash: 205k
I think it’s Preuss and Butters gone this week. Don’t have quite enough to get up to who I really want. Any suggestions, or would it be worth taking an additional rookie on field to downgrade and then get the upgrade of Butters that I want next week?
Given all the carnage, your latter play is the one I need to make too. Keep a rookie onfield to allow for a downgrade to get the cash next week. It’s so frustrating but hand has been forced! Preussy is going to a premo fwd for me but I can’t upgrade elsewhere to a premo, so it’s a downgrade for second trade
Might have to be english and preuss out this week for you, rough. I dont know if there are 2 ruckmen worth getting in to hold for the rest of the year. Maybe some value mid prices to save yourself for one of gawn/Grundy/english when they return
Who to trade for Preuss? Looking to maybe downgrade
Hayes – if playing
Def: Short, Daicos, D’Ambrosio, Cox, Hibberd, Wehr, (Nyuon, Durdin)
Mid: Brayshaw, Amon, Whitfield, Hately, Bruhn, Soligo, Cogs, Owens, (Burgoyne, Angwin)
Ruck: English, Preuss (Teakle)
Fwd: Rayner, Dunkley, Cameron, Himmelberg, Treloar, Clark, (Schofield, Hollands)
Utl: W.Kelly
Jackson for Preuss and Cameron for Gresham?
Or
Rayner for Rowe and Preuss for O’Brien?
Any suggestions?
crtl+ D to delete team :)
Thanks ;)
I might have to trial Jackson.. Can then upgrade Clarke to Mills or Brayshaw though.
Laird or Brayshaw for Kelly, I just want Kelly gone, don’t nothing good for me these past two games
Team must be pretty good if Kelly is your biggest worry
currently have 6 injured players in my team and thoughts on who should go first and maybe for who
– Budarick
– Sam Durdin
– Zorko
– Mitch Owens
– Preuss
– Teakle
As well as players i need to rid of soon or not
– Nic Martin
– Will Brodie
– SDK
– Bailey Smith
– Gibcus
Yeah and every bye round i was trading out injured players, its stuffed
Depends if they are on the bench or on field. For example Teakle will be R3, costs you nothing, leave him there, but Preuss is R2 so has to be fixed. Don’t know your cash or team, but order of trade-in would be English, Cameron, Jackson. Then Smith has to go!!! Guthrie prob best for him. Or Amon if you want to take some cash forward.
Should I trade Petracca to Macrae/Laird/Brayshaw/Oliver, or Jake Lloyd to Jordan Dawson?
Lloyd out first
R14 Score – 1,636
Total Points – 28,089
Avg. Byes – 1,725
R14 Rank – 22,149
Overall Rank – 8,079
R14 Team (after loopholes)
T. Stewart – P. Parnell – S. Docherty (C) – D. Houston – G. Hewett – J. Wehr (J. Sicily – N. Daicos)
M. Duncan – J. Soligo – P. Cripps – B. Crouch – J. Macrae – R. Angwin – J. Crisp – T. Mitchell (M. Owens – C. Oliver)
J. Witts – D. Cameron (M. Gawn)
L. Parker – J. Jeffrey – J. Mead – S. Coniglio – S. De Koning – J. Dunkley (M. Windhager – W. Brodie)
(L. Neale)
R14 Trades
D. Zorko > S. Docherty
S.Hayes > R. Angwin
S. Pendlebury > M. Duncan
$122K in bank
Current R15 plan:
Gawn > C. Graham (Or other cheap ruck)
Owens > Laird/Mills/Brayshaw
First fall in rank since round 8, and fallen out of the top 8K. Still happy with my progress, and only a week or two away from having all premo/premo-likes in the team.
Needing some advice on who to trade in with Butter injury.
Was thinking getting rid of Dixon, but open to suggestions, and who to bring in?
Is Taranto back this week?
Current team:
C. Mills, J. Macrae ,C. Petracca ,M. Bontempelli, T. Mitchell, P. Cripps, L. Neale, G. Clark
INT: J. Clark, S. Butler
J. Dunkley, S. Congilio, W. Brodie, H. Himmelberg, Z. BUTTERS, N. Martin
INT: H. Dixon, H. Ralphsmith
Utility: J. Carrol
English out now for maybe 2 weeks with concussion. Rucks can’t catch a break this year. Jackson most traded in this week?
If its a 2 weeker, is that a trade out? Considering the other spotfires in my team
I think so, too much to hold 890k for 2 weeks. If we find out just a definite 1 weeker maybe try hold if you have a bench ruckman, but still consider the trade. Not much in the way of top tier premo ruckmen left, ROB or witts the only 2 options, maybe Cameron too, or Jackson a potential value pick
I have Witts and Cameron ruck combo, English FWD and had to hold SDK through the byes as forward cover? Don’t like the look of ROB this year and Jackson is a gamble
What a crazy year
It looks like my starting rucks are going to be L.Jackson and S.Hayes (hopefully gets named). This could end badly lol
Yep, it certainly will end in tears…
Now that English is out, Cameron up to R1. Then my first trade is C:Durdin to Visentini who walks into R2 for the round (if named). And either Preuss or Zorko gets upgraded. Means I have to keep 2 rookies on field – V’ini and Soligo. And no chance to fix Kelly or Keays.
Any love for Jack Redden?
Yes, as a stepping stone only. But depends a lot who comes in beside him – Kelly at least, so on balance – probably not.
He should be good for a safe 90-105 every week from now on but dont expect much more than that. He wont get tagged but will just play his role every week. Hes not a top 15 mid so id pass.
Id look at a brayshaw or parker first as guys at a similar price. Even whitfield if you dont have him is probably a better buy in the midfield, Taranto is back soon also
Best player to get in, have plenty of money to get anyone, thinking Macrae instead of Oliver so I can upgrade Hobbs next week?
Already got Neale, Brayshaw, Mills and Laird
Thinking of possible trades for a witherden if hes not named this week, who would you go first out of: Doch/sinclair/crisp/stewart/brayshaw/whitfield?
Whitfield seems the most value, stewart is cheap for what he can be but high BE. Doch sinclair and crisp seem pretty fairly priced
Whitfield is value, but Doc is the best. Personally, I would say Doc or Crisp.
Dark times when you’re considering bringing in Caleb Graham this week.
Don’t do it
As I have no R3 currently (English, Cameron, Preuss) I need to get one this week or next at the latest. Given GC’s Def issues, at least Graham has great JS, and with a b/e of only 11, will also generate some cash.
Yeah I was pretty set on crisp for his consistency, Stewart is tempting at his price but yeah better off with the safer play. Cheers
Gday John, Stewart does have a reasonable run home. Still has a game against Norf, his last two games are against Gold Coast and then home to Wet Toast.
Martin to cogs or serong to brayshaw
also how do we feel about obrien as a r2 option
Probably Serong to Brayshaw. O’Brien as ruck 2 sounds okay, although I am at my Witts end in regards to the rucks.😂
He had 32 touches and 16 marks on the weekend. Fingers crossed he does get picked
Bit stuck fellas. Got butters and most likely De Goey going out, English with no cover in the ruck lol so any advice would be appreciated.
De goey/butters > Jackson and $768k or less ( Whitfield perhaps)
De goey / butters > Jamieson, Graham 😬 and any play I want
Cheers in advance!
I would go for the first option, Jackson and Whitfield sounds good to me. Not many good rucks atm and Jackson most traded in.
Alright first trade locked in Preuss to Jackson. I have 3 other options and I am not sure which one to choose:
1. Reef (bench) to Parnell
2. Hobbs to Treolar (gets rid of my last rookie)
3. Merret to Oliver/Mills
Would love to some help, thanks.
2
Which 1 to Trade Out?
Butters or DeGoey?
Butters
English to Witts, Hayes to Luke Jackson.
All being well, Jackson goes to the forwards next week and I’ll risk playing Preuss again in ruck.
And with Dunkley also back to the forwards, I’ll be able to get rid my last two rookie forwards.
Preuss will be traded back to English when he’s right to return.
What could possibly go wrong? (I lose other players to injury in the meantime?)
At this stage I want English in my team, but I don’t particularly want Zorko, Serong or Preuss. So rather than waste a trade getting rid of English and then trading him back in two weeks time, I plan to trade one of the three that I don’t want anyway.
If Zorko plays, Preuss goes out, but if Zorko doesn’t play, then he’s gone first. Sound reasonable?
Better be careful about English. He’s worth too much to keep on the bench, and with previous concussion problems we don’t really know how long he will be out for. Two weeks at this stage, though could be four, or longer… who knows?
As long as you can cover English, there’s no problem. Like others, I have Teakle on the bench who is worth three eights of SFA, and bench cover in Fwds will mean a big points hit for two weeks, so he has to go. But then again, I don’t have Preuss, who should go first. Zorko went last week for me, but I have Butters, or should I say, had Butters until now.
So hard with Rucks, Gawn on radio this morning said his boot comes off today and if all is well could only be gone for this round. I’d say at least 2 more, Looks like English is definitely gone for 2 need to trade out at least 1 which one do u go? I’m probably going to go Gawn but I’ll kick myself if he returns next week. Either way it’s 2 trades I guess doesn’t really matter in Fantasy but does in the other forms of the game.
Each week new carnage and then bad trades, need some help with this week trades, only have 42k in bank
Crisp/ short/ bray/ sic/ daic/ wehr (SDK/ skinner)
Oliver/ laird/ macrae/ jelly/ touk/ petracca/ zerrett/ Martin (soligo/ owens)
English/ jamieson (teakle)
Dunks/ bont/ cong/ Brodie/ degoey/ Hobbs (mccomb/ Durdin)
Peatling
English and Teakle out – English must be traded. Either go with Jackson and get some cash, or with ROB. Is ROB reliable? I think not, so Jackson and cash is better.
De Goey out for season – bring in Treloar or Parker.
De Goey out for season? Source??
Sorry – I read that wrong – I was busy at work and mis-read the email I got from Collingwood. Not out. But probably should be.
Seems that a player can blame ADHD for anything.
hes not out for the season, I think there is a decent chance hes out for a game anyway because of his bali stuff, if he is then hes still worth considering trading out anyway because his scores have been shit, but yeah not before longer term injuries