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Around the grounds – Ep. 408

PODCAST: Warnie and Calvin are joined by the AFL.com.au journos.

After plenty of intra-club matches, finally we saw teams playing against real opponents. This week on the podcast we hit up the AFL.com.au journos who covered the game to quiz them on their thoughts and some Fantasy relevant names that popped up.

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Episode guide

1:25 – It is Fantasy Draft season. Make sure you download the new Draft Kit.

3:00 – Changes to the Bacon Cup Draft league and how Calvin’s stat adjustments changes scoring.

6:55 – Warnie’s breaking news.

9:05 – Mitch Cleary says Stefan Martin looks to be the No. 1 ruck at the Dogs.

11:30 – Lock in Connor Downie as a debutant for the Hawks.

15:10 – Riley Beveridge talks up Paddy Dow as an option in your Fantasy Classic forward line.

22:00 – Essendon’s half-backs will be interesting this year with Dyson Heppell, Nick Hind and possibly Ned Cahill a chance to be lining up there this year.

25:00 – Tom Powell will be in Mitch Cleary’s team in round one.

26:40 – Maybe we won’t see Jaidyn Stephenson get the midfield clock that we first thought.

30:00 – Callum Twomey says that every Fantasy team should have Max Gawn.

36:00 – Patrick Dangerfield played primarily in the midfield in the first half before being put on ice.

40:30 – Calvin asks Mitch Cleary about where Brayden Sier is at for the Pies, but it sounds like Josh Daicos is the one to watch for Draft leagues.

44:20 – Your R3 should be Matthew Flynn. Lock it in.

47:00 – How will the MID-FWD mix look with Tim Taranto and Stephen Coniglio?

50:40 – The Swans will have a few kids running through and Riley Beveridge is keen on Errol Gulden as the pick of the cash cows.

55:00 – Sarah Black fills us in on the Milera injury.

57:10 – Jimmy Rowe kicked a goal and will be in the round one mix as a small forward for the Crows.

1:01:15 – Nathan Schmook was at Mineral Resources Park and said Liam Duggan should have a midfield role early while Elliot Yeo is out.

1:05:30 – Nat Fyfe played as a midfielder despite training as a forward in the pre-season.

1:09:25 – After a four goal performance, is Joe Daniher a lock for our teams?

1:12:25 – Michael Whiting suggests Ely Smith could line up on the wing as the Lions’ 22nd player.

1:15:45 – Questions from social media – follow @AFLFantasy on Twitter and like the Official AFL Fantasy facebook page.

1:17:00 – Can we play Matthew Flynn on your field?

1:23:30 – Who do you pick: Paddy Dow or Joe Daniher?

1:27:00 – Callum Mills or Tom Stewart?

1:30:30 – How many rookies can you play on your field?

1:33:20 – Who do you take with pick one in Draft?

1:37:15 – What did we learn from the utility bench position?

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    mark

    March 1, 2021 at 3:14 pm

    omg 1 hr 39 mins f**K yah

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    Marcus Lawton

    March 1, 2021 at 4:29 pm

    I’m with Cal all the way on C Mills. I bet Mills will still play time on the Back Flank a fair bit. I’ve been a Swan supporter for around 50 years and cannot believe we didn’t recruit a backman over the off Season when at the end of last year we used Alir as a big bodied Defender and now don’t have enough experience down back to stop the teams that have big bodied forwards like the Lion’s. So we will need Mills to drop back and help out a bit, There backline is young and the only experience we have back there is Rampe.

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      Mighty Puds

      March 1, 2021 at 5:08 pm

      As a Swans fan myself disagree although think he may still spend some time there. The club has always been keen to get Mills into the guts and the fact he played there against the Giants with Rampe out and GWS having Riccardi, Finlayson, Himmelberg up forward shows the move seems set to stick. Lloyd and Cunningham have both played over 100 games now and Melican and McCartin seem the other two to take the big forwards (remember McCartin played down back with Aliir but when Rampe was injured). There’s also Dawson and Fox to fill that medium defender role and Campbell looks awesome across half back. I’ve always wanted to see him in the midfield and honestly (we say it every year) think it’s legit, get on board!!

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        LW [Why Don't you Choose a Different Alias?]

        March 1, 2021 at 5:23 pm

        I for one have always been very keen for the time that Mills gets unleashed into the midfield. His aggressive game should lead to good tackling numbers and hopefully in turn solid fantasy scores. Psychologically I think the fact he is in the 700s may scare a few away, but priced at an average of 92 he’s definitely unders.

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        Marcus Lawton

        March 1, 2021 at 10:44 pm

        Hi Mighty Pud yeah you might be right but it doesn’t mean Mills will always be in the Midfield, he will be swapping around all the time so its a deffinate no for me. I couldn’t pick him as we will have a few players that can play through the midfield and keep swapping to the forward line or backline. Plus my point is we need the big Bodies down back and I wouldn’t realy call McCartin and Malican big bodied defenders. Plus I wouldn’t call Dawson and Fox experienced Defenders. Plus every off Season we seem to always pick the young Midfielders Campbell and Gulden the year before we picked Stephens and Warner so we are loading up on Mids and Forwards but if we get a couple of players injured down back we don’t realy have much. Example is look at last year we had Hayward playing in the backline last few games. Not for me thanks

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          Mighty Puds

          March 2, 2021 at 12:28 am

          Fair enough but just think he showed enough in the scratch match alone to get excited about what he could be in the midfield, avoid him if you want but think he’s a definite option. Melican is listed at 195cm and 98kg (if that isn’t a big body not sure what is) while McCartin is 193cm and 93kg and did a really good job on Dixon last year who is about as monstrous as key forwards get. Was referring more so to Lloyd and Cunningham rather than Dawson and Fox as well. The reality is we need to start getting the midfield less reliant on JPK and parker and Mills offers that bigger body and physical approach that we’ve needed in the middle to help those guys, the fact he played the entirety of Saturday’s game in the middle without really resting either end shows how serious the club is about this switch.

          Of course he’ll likely go back if injuries really bite but then we also need to get games into Gould, Ling etc plus you never know how injuries will fair this year. Campbell will likely help fill the gap at half-back and Gulden will likely play more high half-forward then mid initially. he won’t always be midfield but based off everything that’s been seen and said and given the current status of the team think it really is time and his scoring will skyrocket in the midfield. It’s exciting but leave him if that’s not hat you think, Mills the midfielder is here finally!

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            Marcus Lawton

            March 2, 2021 at 7:54 pm

            Our Backline is to inexperience to go up against sides like Lions, Cats, Tigers and so on. We once had players like Grundy, Richards, N Smith, McViegh and so on. With there experience we had a good experienced backline once but without that sort of experience don’t you think other teams will work out ways to get the ball into there Forward line. We needed to pick up at least one experienced Defender in the off Season and with McCartins and Melicans inexperience I expect big scores against us

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              Mighty Puds

              March 3, 2021 at 10:55 am

              Bit pessimistic there, rather than focus on the back line consider the fact that the entire squad/list is inexperienced in it’s entirety but that the last couple of years have allowed the younger players to get extremely valuable experience on the job and in terms of playing with each other. We’re not going to be going toe-to-toe with the Tigers, Cats, Lions etc right now and probably not for a while, We don’t have Teddy, Reg, Smith, McVeigh anymore so have to move on to the next wave. teams have already figured out how to get the ball forward against us. We’ve always been a team to concede a high amount of inside 50s even with the aforementioned experience. Another aspect is to protect the defense by strengthening our midfield, something we’ve needed for a while with Kennedy and Parker needing some help. Mills gives us another seasoned body around the ball to protect the like of Rowbottom and Florent while they develop further and to help out the older mids. Get better in the clinches and hopefully get the ball out of the back half more.

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                Marcus Lawton

                March 3, 2021 at 1:48 pm

                The point I’m trying to make by losing that experience in the backline is that you need more than just Rampe’s experience down there if you want to stop other teams from winning games. But the funny thing is I said earlier that Dawson and Fox were not experienced backmen then you got back to me and said Cunningham was the experienced defender. Are you serious Dawson is more experienced Defender that can also be moved forward. Where as Cunningham is the type of player that roams up n down the wing. By the look of it you are a new comer to the game so I’ll give you a bit of credit, You say the entire Squad is inexperienced. Think you might of forgot we have Franklin, Kennedy, Parker, Lloyd, Clarke, S Gray, L Taylor, Sinclair, Ried, Rampe, Hewitt and I believe we brought a guy by the name of Hickey to the club and only one of those guys is a true Defender, 7 can play forward and 7 can play Midfield Good luck in beating sides with a big Forward line. LOL and you tell me I’m pessimistic LOL maybe you should drop the word Mighty from your name. I’m not scared to put my real name down. I wonder why

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                  Mighty Puds

                  March 3, 2021 at 2:35 pm

                  Ok mate think this has gotten a bit out of hand, my name on here is my team name plenty of users on here don’t put their actual name on here, there’s no shame in that (people use usernames on online forums). You’re right that we do have a fair amount of experienced players such as the one’s you mentioned and overall our list is the 10th most experienced going into this season. Clarke has played 64 games, Cunningham (who you’re right is more of a winger but has played off half-back the last 2-3 years) has played 130 so think he counts as an experienced player who has been used down back recently.

                  Agree to disagree on Mills but the point is we’re still building as a club and we can’t expect to be challenging the flag fancies regularly yet, we did however push Geelong right to the end last season. Actually been around the game for a fair bit but thanks for the credit I guess. Always good to have differing views among a clubs supporters.

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                    Marcus Lawton

                    March 3, 2021 at 9:30 pm

                    Hey Mighty Puds lets just get on with the game of footy and wish our teams luck and the Swans a good year. I agree the Swans will not make the Grand Final this year and all the best to you and your family. Good Banter and that’s all it is. I’m a passionate fan have been for around 50 years now and can take things a bit to far at times and I’m not proud of some certain things I said to you. All the best

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    mark

    March 1, 2021 at 5:14 pm

    Valente (freo) ,Gould (Syd) and Ford (Nth) any news on this mob

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      Daniel

      March 1, 2021 at 6:21 pm

      This is not factual, but Valente won’t play in mids with the new wave of freo mids (brayshaw, serong cerra etc.) Gould should play, but might not, never know with the swannies. Haven’t heard much about Ford so doubt he’ll be there at round 1

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        mark

        March 1, 2021 at 6:53 pm

        thanks ill make some changes

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          Daniel

          March 1, 2021 at 7:08 pm

          All good, good luck!

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        Marcus Lawton

        March 1, 2021 at 10:48 pm

        You make a good point about Valente Daniel

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          Warnie

          March 2, 2021 at 6:02 am

          Valente injured and a fair way off a senior game, not just for injury, but for pecking order.

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    mark

    March 2, 2021 at 1:59 pm

    Warndog will Alec Waterman play round one no he has a contract your thoughts?

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