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The Milkmen Review – Round 10

Getting your rookies sorted for the byes is super-important.

Team selection for Round 10 was definitely a not so friendly reminder about the importance of bench cover! As fantasy coaches continue to fill up their side with premiums, let’s have a look at the round that was, whilst looking at some rookies coming through the twos. As always, come Friday we’ll be releasing our top trade in targets following the announcement of Sundays teams. Join us on our live Twitter Q&A at 5:30pm AEST @TheMilkmentDT.

Those That Matter 

Western Bulldogs vs Collingwood

After the carnage that was the selection table, those who were relying on rookies from this game to perform would not have been extremely happy. The top scoring rookie for the Pies was Jaidyn Stephenson ($444,000 MID/FWD BE 74) who just kicked his one goal as he had 59 points. Definitely looks to be slowing down but one that you should keep as a low priority to trade because at least we know he will be playing. The only other rookie playing for Collingwood was Flynn Appleby ($286,000 DEF BE 26) and if anything we were glad he didn’t perform amazingly as it bodes well for Sam Murray. Appleby only had 11 disposals and more importantly only the one rebound 50. Owners should be nervous. Just on Sam Murray, it’s worth noting in the post match press conference that Buckley said he was dropped due to form reasons and seem to hint that he may be out for awhile. No harm in moving him on if you don’t see his name at team selection this week as he is a cash cow that’s ready to be milked.

Ed Richards ($367,000 DEF BE 30) has really used the last few weeks to make the half back flank role his own. His 23 disposals included 10 contested and he ended up on 87 points. The contested ball gathering is why the scores seem to be increasing the most as he’s getting his own ball as well as being a part of the chipping off half back. He actually had five inside 50s of his own too so really has free range in that side which is great news. Awesome bye round too so just kudos all round the teams who have him.      The other key rookie for the Bulldogs in this one was Billy Gowers ($360,000 FWD BE 57). Other than a great contested mark in the last quarter there really wasn’t much to write about in regards to his game. Like Richards, has a great bye round so we’d have him as a low priority rookie to move on despite his recent form suggesting otherwise.

Richmond vs St Kilda

St Kilda are blooding more and more youngsters at the moment and it’s safe to say we will see a few more downgrade targets. If only they didn’t all share the same bye! The backline brigade of Logan Austin ($222,000 DEF BE -16) and Bailey Rice ($225,000 DEF BE -11) enjoyed the plethora of ball that came their way and had 97 and 75 points respectively. Austin was especially impressive with his score as he relished on the early removal of Jack Riewoldt from the game and played as a loose tall at times. He ended up with 23 disposals and 8 marks but we wouldn’t be getting too excited by the kid. He was only selected due to Nathan Brown’s injury and won’t get that much freedom every week. We still have Rice ahead of him as a priority. Ed Phillips ($288,000 MID BE -4) used a huge second quarter of over 10 disposals to help him get to 74 points. He ain’t going anywhere quickly and will be there come byes. Clearly him and his brother share a similar engine as he spent 87% of the game on the field between the centre square and down back.

The only other relevant rookie running around for Richmond was Jack Higgins ($366,000 FWD BE 46). We were pretty surprised to see he only had two tackles as Higgins did apply good pressure around the ground. His 15 disposals and 5 marks meant that he still found his way to a respectable 64 points. This is actually a promising sign from Higgins that he didn’t need to rely on goals to get a good rookie score but the worrying thing with him is we know they aren’t afraid to leave him out of the side at any moment.

Brisbane vs Sydney

It’s hard not to be impressed by Ben Ronke ($409,000 FWD BE 28) and the way he goes about it. It’s also pretty funny every time the commentators refer to him as “Buddy Ronke”. This game was only two goals for the Ronke (high expectations I know) but a nice 13 disposals to go with it were the reason he got to 70. Keep enjoying the price rises while they come people! We got our first look at Ryley Stoddart ($178,000 DEF BE 17) and there wasn’t much to go chasing to be honest. Only 9 touches and they went at 44% so it could very well be a one week trial. We hope that Horse gives Colin O’Riordan ($170,000 DEF BE 27) a chance and he will be more of a name to get excited about.

All Brisbane rookies were solid without being amazing. Other than Matt Eagles ($180,000 MID BE 32) of course. Despite not scoring well already, a groin injury put him out before half time and we now get to wait and see who gets named to take his place. Pray for more rookies. Cameron Rayner ($333,000 MID/FWD BE 57) actually did a few good things up forward and took a couple of crucial marks. It’s easy to see why the players love him over there in Brisbane due to the intensity he brings to the contest. Only one goal and 42 points but from a non-dreamteam perspective there’s plenty to like. It was largely thanks to a big second quarter that Oscar McInerney ($312,000 RUC BE 28) managed to piece together any type of score and ended up on 44 points. The Big O just keeps doing the small things well, which helps work wonders his job security during the byes. The highlight of the one percenters was a flying fist spoil reminiscent of some of the best defenders. Zac Bailey ($329,000 MID BE 55) showed just what kind of shockers he is prone to. The match up in the rain against some bigger bodies really didn’t suit his style and he ended up with only 8 disposals and 32 points.

Geelong vs. Carlton

Scrappy old game. Couldn’t help but cheer for Carlton. There is a fair bit to like about Jack Henry ($353,000 FWD BE 28). His scores have been very up and down, but some games he looks to be playing a very fantasy friendly role down back. Henry Scored 84 points from 16 possessions. Jordan Cunico ($425,000 MID BE 68) is becoming very reliable. He looks at home out there and you can’t help but notice him. Cunico had 16 touches and scored 63 points. Tim Kelly ($477,000 MID BE 90) just becomes Tom Rockliff this week, doesn’t he? He has been great for us but hasn’t managed to get above 65 in three weeks now and seems to be dropping off. He will continue to play but will start losing you money each week. Speaking of trade-out options, Esava Ratugolea ($318,000 FWD BE 77) sustained a horrific broken leg (tib & fib) and is unlikely to be seen again this year.

Paddy Dow ($377,000 MID BE 27) played the best game of his AFL career and continues to build into the season nicely. If you are one of the 19% of coaches who still own him, you may be rewarded throughout the byes. He seems to be hitting his straps and has great job security. Dow scored 96 from 18 disposals. Cameron O’Shea ($336,000 DEF BE 53) played a much-improved game compared to his previous few. We thought he might have been one of the players likely to get dropped however he help his spot and played well. O’Shea scored 63 from 12 possessions.

GWS vs Essendon

Reality really hit for Jordan Ridley ($239,000 DEF BE -2) who only had the 9 touches in this game as he was made to be more accountable down back. From a non-dreamteam perspective his game was still solid which should give owners a little comfort but the reality is that Hurley is still sitting in the wings. His score of 46 is closer to what we expect from him compared to last weeks 90+. Got to back him in if you have him though. Matt Guelfi ($376,000 FWD BE 11) did what he hasn’t been able to do before and continued on after half time. Interestingly Guelfi actually had the second least amount of time on the ground for the Dons which makes his score even more promising. A sneaky chance to get defensive dual position also and should be good to pump out some similar scores to this weeks 92 as the bombers continue to improve. Reliable as they come in the rookie world at the moment.

We expected a lot more from Matt Buntine ($247,000 DEF 33) who only had 44 points from his 12 touches. In hindsight that’s quite harsh considering it was his first game back from a serious injury and should build from here. There’s better defenders to chase though lead by Bailey Rice. If coaches haven’t already it’s time to move Zac Langdon ($278,000 FWD BE 44) unless he is there for bye support. For those wondering Jeremy Finlayson managed to have 25 touches and 2 goals to help him to 115 points in the NEAFL.

Hawthorn vs West Coast

We wouldn’t get too excited by the game of David Mirra ($351,000 DEF BE 14) even though he produced a solid score of 68. It included a very lucky holding the ball free kick and 18 points in the space of five minutes as they chipped around. As big of fans as we were of Mirra going in to the season he definitely looked quite slow out there. Should be safe but the game made us nervous come round 13 and 14 when we will really need him. Still has enough credits in our bank to back him in.

As discussed before with the Eagles rookies, their bye is too good to pass up on keeping some of the forwards running around for your side. Those with Willie Rioli ($363,000 FWD BE 36) are especially laughing, as he just seems to be riding a wave of confidence at the moment and starting to score consistently well. 13 touches, 5 marks and 2 goals for 77 points this week. Jake Waterman ($373,000 FWD BE 62) definitely looks like he is slowing down and playing the supporting role we thought he would play from the start with the three tall-pronged attack. He’s only going at an average of 58 now despite peaking at 64. This week’s score of 54 was part of the reason for that. He is still a lower priority to move on, as you may need him there come round 13 and 14.

Melbourne vs. Adelaide

Timothy Smith ($277,000 FWD BE -36) has certainly entered Melbourne’s best 22 at the right time. Smith has been involved in Melbourne’s last two games in which they have belted their opposition and almost all players have scored well. Smith backed up his 86 with a 107 this week and that breakeven is hard to ignore now. Just don’t expect these scores to continue. Charlie Spargo ($344,000 FWD/MID BE 28) continues to impress us. Tackles well, accumulates, uses the ball well and can hit the scoreboard. Spargo scored 84 from 14 possessions. Bayley Fritsch ($493,000 FWD BE 54) is now just $5000 less that Billings. If we didn’t still have Billings, this would be funny. Fritsch is just a gun. He is averaging 88 in his last five games and since he was dropped in round five, he has come back and played much higher up the ground. Melbourne feed him the ball, he is great overhead and is an elite user.

Tom Doedee ($435,000 DEF BE 64) was probably one of Adelaide’s better performers. You know what you’re going to get from him now. Locked into Adelaide’s back six. If Adelaide weren’t pumped, you would probably accept the game of Darcy Fogarty ($292,000 FWD/MID BE 41). We actually thought he did well considering he had so few opportunities. Fogarty had nine touches, a goal and scored 51. Barely noticed Myles Poholke ($244,000 FWD/MID BE 21) to be honest. He had nine touches and scored 47.

Fremantle vs. North Melbourne

Adam Cerra ($385,000 MID BE 45) looked great on the weekend. We thought he might have been a chance at getting the rising star nomination. Looked like he had a dry footy out there for most of the day. Cerra scored 82 from 15 possessions and nine tackles. He, along with Bailey Banfield ($394,000 MID BE 56) and Andrew Brayshaw ($415,000 MID BE 61) should continue to play each week, not only through the byes, but for the rest of the season. It feels like Brayshaw and Banfield score the same amount of points each week. Both players scored 65. Brayshaw only had 66% game time on the weekend which we have noticed is not unusual with him. Alex Pearce ($290,000 DEF BE 59) only had the 30 points, but you didn’t pick him up thinking he would be a high scorer.

Ben Jacobs ($509,000 MID BE 49) the cash cow of the year? We think he will be. What a star. This guy was an absolute ball magnet as a junior and when he’s not completely lock down tagging and working both ways, he can find the ball alright. His ceiling is massive and job security is a lock.

Keep An Eye On 

Matthew Signorello ($170,000 FWD/MID) and Patrick Wilson ($170,000 FWD/MID) both performed strongly in the SANFL and may be considered for senior selection after Adelaide’s poor effort on the weekend. Wilson is a more relevant name as he is averaging 95 points in the SANFL compared to Signorello’s 69.

Brodie Mihocek ($170,000 DEF) continues to perform strongly at VFL level. He appears to be behind a few players still.

Aaron Francis ($259,000 DEF/FWD) is building form in the VFL and will play games this year. At his price however, he is hard to recommend. Currently averaging 66 in the VFL this season.

Harley Bennell ($249,000 FWD) is getting close. We all know what he is capable of but gut feel says he is still two weeks away.

Stefan Giro ($170,000 MID) will almost certainly debut this week. He is a great option. Averaging 25 touches, five tackles and 96 points in the WAFL.

Zachary Sproule ($170,000 FWD) is playing well in the NEAFL. He had 34 touches and 130 points on the weekend. With GWS performing so poorly, he may be close to a senior call up. Having said that, we have been fooled by NEAFL numbers before. Hi Shipley.

Teia Miles ($266,000 DEF/FWD) continues to perform well in the VFL. He is probably close to a senior call up, but at that price, we would avoid.

Stefan Giro and Patrick Wilson appear to be the best two trade in options this week from a cash cow perspective. As mentioned, we will be doing a live Q&A on Friday evening an hour before lock out.

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  1. anth80

    May 30, 2018 at 7:32 am


    Great write up again.

    Trade Waterman to Smith or Mutch to Giro.
    Other trade is Tim kelly to the pig

    • j

      May 30, 2018 at 12:39 pm

      Waterman to Smith, instant reward with his BE and current form. Giro is a WALF piglet, but don’t yet know what role Ross Lyon will have him playing – i.e., don’t know yet if those WALF numbers will translate to AFL piglet-like scores. You can safely wait 1 week on Giro, assessing him before bringing him in.
      Purely comparing the two as a BE game, Smith has to do far less than Giro this week to go up more in price.

      • JungleMuffin

        May 30, 2018 at 3:35 pm

        Much to Giro at this stage is clearly a better grade, for literally half a dozen reasons.

        1) Much isn’t getting a game.
        2) Waterman is getting a game.
        3) Waterman has a much better bye.
        4) Competition for spots at Melbourne is hot, with olenty of senior players outting pressure on.
        5l) Giro has almost guaranteed JS given that Lyon has come out during the week and said it’s time to play the kids, and the injuries to several midfielders.
        6) Giro is 100k cheaper.

        Smith’s BE is almost irrelevant at this stage of the season as people have more or less completed their teams by this point, if you still need the rookies you’re bringing in to make you coin, then you’re a lost cause.

        Smith isn’t going to score 100’s week in, week out, and Giro doesn’t need to. You can expect a 70 odd like most other rookies, and get abother 15-20 points by putting the 100k into reaching a premium.

        These players only need to get you a game during the byes. You’re going to get a shitload more points out of Waterman + Giro +100k than Smith + a Much donut + 0k. Honestly, your feedback is consistantly nonsensical that I genuinely wonder if your suggestions are meant to sabotage people.

        • Simon

          May 30, 2018 at 3:45 pm

          Completed their teams? Far canal… I’m so far away from that it’s not funny. My team is sooooo shit still

          • JungleMuffin

            May 31, 2018 at 1:19 am

            How mamy of Billings/JOM/Zerrett et al the weekly weapons have you owned throughout the season?

            There’s a reason the ‘Don’t.Sideways.Trade’ rule exists. Yes, you might recoup 20-30-40 points over your failing prem via a sideways trade per week, but what most of the minute by minute ponies don’t grasp is that, those same trades will cost you/postpone you 20-30 points a week via missinf out on an an upgrade from a rookie to a premium 1/2 weeks down the line, which inevitably consolidates itself.

            Why sacrifice a coin toss sideways trade for an upgrade that costs you 3-4-5+ weeks of scoring differential between a cow and a premium, and also consolidates a few hundred k loss, when you can split the difference and tl:dr too steaming to remember the point?

            I’m not talking smizack to you btw, you’re better than most of the Gronkes that try to lead from last place around here.

          • Hi-flyer

            May 31, 2018 at 1:48 am

            You are definitely right in regards to sideways trading delaying you from completing your team and obviously this is a firm rule of good fantasy players set in stone long ago when all versions of the game had limited trades…But..And this is a big but..If you pull off the right sideways trade in fantasy it can have a massive points bonus attached to it..Think Parker to McRae Jacobs to Grundy or Billings to McLean…If you own a crystal ball and done any of those trades b4 the scoring of those players went in opposite directions then I’m not even going to bother adding up the points gains but they would be largish…The top 5% of the fantasy rankings is made up of a mixture of really good players who follow all the rules and a bunch of assy pricks who just have the Midas touch all year…

        • BBB

          May 30, 2018 at 5:46 pm

          “completed their teams”

          hmmm… what next, horseless carriages ?

        • anth80

          May 30, 2018 at 6:46 pm

          Excuse me.
          Were you talking to me?
          Wow. Put up a question and got roasted for it.
          I won’t ask any questions again.
          FYI I’ll only have to 2 rookies on field after this trade. So my team is and will not be complete be complete as I’ll trade out spuds after that.
          Thanks for your advice.

          • JungleMuffin

            May 31, 2018 at 12:47 am

            Anth, I was replying to old mates post, not yours. That’s why I replied to his post, not yours. I feel the feedback I gave was explicitly directed towards his comment and argument, and not towards you.

        • Demonetise

          May 30, 2018 at 11:43 pm

          JungleMuffin, this week, you make more from Waterman to Smith than Mutch to Giro, so taking the trades in isolation (which you’re doing when assuming he’ll have donuts over the byes with Mutch), there’s actually more money left from the Waterman to Smith trade.

          If we don’t take the trades in isolation, and assume that he, e.g., trades Mutch to Giro next week, then he ends up heaps better off going with the Waterman to Smith trade this week.

          Having said that, I agree that the good teams will not need Smith’s cash to complete their teams, but Anth may well (and could be playing for league wins, in which case he has somewhat longer to “complete” his team, or a respectable finish after copping a few of the many bullets this year).

          Finally, he may have Darling and McLean in which case Waterman’s bye is not as valuable as it probably is for most.

          I think there are definitely pros to the Giro trade, but it’s not as obvious as you make out (IMHO).

          • JungleMuffin

            May 31, 2018 at 2:07 am

            Yo, Demoneti$e…

            Profitability between Muddy-Smith and Much-Giro means nothing. What matters is points. While you’re counting profitability between F7 and M9, the winners are counting runs on the board. This is why, despite your apparant ‘supremely tactically reflective rank’ (sic, or something) you will not won the game.

            You make the argument that Muddy to Smith this week is the superior trade. My issue with that argument is, it is an inferior trade next week, and the week after that, and the week after that.

            How do you support your argument that Waterman to Smith this week supercedes the benefits of having Waterman + Giro + 100k in rounds 12, 13 and 14?

          • Demonetise

            May 31, 2018 at 11:11 pm

            As I said, it depends. If he’s got, say Darling and McLean, then Waterman in rds 12, 13, 14 aren’t worth much.

            If he trades Mutch to Giro next week, then he’ll have Giro in Rd 12, 13, 14. So the only thing left is the $100k. So the question there is, can he get someone who scores as much for him as Smith per dollar paid through the byes? This is a question of how well you think Smith will go versus some other rook he can get next week.

            If he doesn’t have 2 other rd 12 bye players then Waterman is worth a lot more and the Giro trade becomes a substantially better prospect (I’m keeping Waterman myself for this reason).

    • j

      May 30, 2018 at 6:03 pm

      anth80, ignore this idiot Muff’s “advice” – he’s like a pigeon waiting for chip: the only time he comes on is to criticize me, but by reading into his headspace too closely you’ll end up sabotaging your team. Maybe he wants that cause he’s still bitter over bringing in Clarke, using the same brainless argument then as he’s making again.

      • JungleMuffin

        May 31, 2018 at 1:37 am

        Yeah man, I made a mistake by bringing in Clarke 3 weeks before he was selected for basement price. I then consolidated that by bringing in Giro unselected at basement price, a week before to people flipping the coin between Smith and Giro + 100k.

        Teach me, how to rank at 10, 0000, 000ish, JB.

    • PowerAde

      May 30, 2018 at 6:28 pm

      jungle just likes to stalk j’s post and discount due to personality clash,do you have the cash to go mutch to smith?

      both j and junglemuffin have valid points, but end of day giro has still got to be picked whereas Smith will play and gain 50k this weekend.

      • Anth80

        May 30, 2018 at 7:01 pm

        I can do that but then I can’t get Rockliff unless I trade Taranto but Kelly needs to go.

        • Screech

          May 30, 2018 at 8:34 pm

          smith has been the backup ruck for gawn. he plays like gawn too. getting cheeky +6’s around the ground. when he rests fwd he kicks goals. he is a proven goal kicker through the vfl and now at afl level too.

          this week vs a ruckless doggies side he will ton up and gain 50k. im on board at least for a round or two.

        • PowerAde

          May 31, 2018 at 11:00 am

          ah, well rocky should be the number 1 priority so go with giro if named

      • JungleMuffin

        May 31, 2018 at 1:28 am

        Absolutely Giro has to be picked yet. The difference is though, the prophets read the forecast and picked Giro last week, while the muppets read the obituaries and mourne this week.

        • Loki

          May 31, 2018 at 5:19 pm

          Teams complete? no. surely most still have a few rooks left, whether its murray, doedee, kelly etc. And why not use a player with a minus 36 B/E? Id rather trade him in at an already inflated price, than go for a slow burner now. come a few rounds time cash will still be important for luxury trades, rather be downgrading a $300k+ rook down than a 190-220K to ensure M8/D6 etc isnt a sideways luxury but rather a decent upgrade luxury.

      • JungleMuffin

        May 31, 2018 at 2:17 am

        I tell you what, NoBrainer+Aids, aka StalkerWater, you’ve been a bigger stalker than everyone. What happened? Did I criticise your team selection? You’ve got more of a flaccid hardon than anyone.

        What’s your problem hotdog water? You mirin bra?

        Hawk was right, your posts are HIWannaB positive. Get gud.

        2020 etc.

        • clever tent

          May 31, 2018 at 9:59 am

          verbal vomit

        • PowerAde

          May 31, 2018 at 10:59 am

          haha, when you hurl insults, you are an amusing read i’ll give you that!

          I think you invest too much time into this past time, you get so worked up over lots of little nothings

  2. Jake

    May 30, 2018 at 8:11 am

    Which one to bench front ronke, guelfi and smith? I’m currently thinking Ronke. Cheers legend so!!!

    • Dardymen

      May 30, 2018 at 9:40 am

      ronke will run riot at home vs carlton should be a good score for him

    • Simon

      May 30, 2018 at 11:44 am

      Smith. I think the other two will be good for 70+, whereas Smith is due a shocker.

      • The Cricket

        May 30, 2018 at 2:03 pm

        +1 Simon

      • Demonetise

        May 30, 2018 at 11:52 pm

        Why? Dees probably won’t win by 90+ again, but Smith plays on the ball for ~20% game time and should get 10+ hit outs and has been killing in the VFL and is not a kid at 27.

        I would say precisely the opposite to you that Smith is the one you definitely should not bench.

        • Simon

          May 31, 2018 at 8:54 am

          Cool. Imagine every one of us winning a car because we all did exactly the same thing all the time!?

          So who would you bench? I have all three and I’m benching Smith.

          • Alan J

            May 31, 2018 at 9:14 am

            I think JM has won the car already hasn’t he?

          • DBoms

            May 31, 2018 at 9:23 am

            Bench Ronke.

            Personally I think all 3 will score well this week. My first impression was going to be bench Guelfi – purely because of he playing Richmond factor – I thought the frantic high pressure game would get to an uncontested player like Guelfi.

            However, I looked into the stats, and literally every week, an uncontested half back player is in the top few possession winners against Richmond (Kade Simpson, Witherden, Blakely/N.Wilson, Laird, Howe/Scharenberg – not to mention the Saints last week, Geary, Webster, Logan Austin!).

            So I’m now expecting an 80-90+ from the Guelf (unless Hurley maybe steals points, but based on last week he should still rack them up).

            I also think Tim Smith should definitely be on the ground. A mature age player so he shouldn’t have the drop offs that a genuine rookie will have, plus he does a little bit of everything to score.
            Tackling machine (check out VFL numbers), takes marks (contested marks too), can kick goals, plus pinch hits in the ruck, so he gets a few hit outs, and is spending extra time around the ball when he’s there – that’s too hard to pass up for mine.

          • Demonetise

            May 31, 2018 at 11:28 pm

            +1 DBoms. Tough call on the other 2 I reckon. I’d lean towards Ronke mainly because small fwds can have poor games. Probably not against Carlton. Tough call, but that’s where I’d lean.

            (Disclaimer: I will probably have Ronke on field this week, but I don’t have Guelfi).

    • James

      May 30, 2018 at 1:55 pm

      Out of Ronke and Guelfi. Definitely play Smith

    • Sam

      May 30, 2018 at 2:37 pm

      I’d bench Guefli. Can’t see him pumping 70+ against Richmond.

      • Simon

        May 30, 2018 at 3:46 pm

        He plays loose in defence a lot. You reckon they’ll send a tag to him?

  3. blimp on the radar

    May 30, 2018 at 9:24 am

    It’s Tim Smith vs Austin vs Angus Brayshaw for me. Real FOMO going on here!!

    • Dardymen

      May 30, 2018 at 9:42 am

      do you need cash or points depends how solid your back 6 looks but at 580k he isnt cheap. what other backs do you have already?

    • Simon

      May 30, 2018 at 11:48 am

      Austin’s a pass of those three I reckon. Toss a coin the other two. I’ll be skipping Brayshaw. He’s one tough contest away from weeks on the sidelines

    • blimp on the radar

      May 30, 2018 at 12:06 pm

      Yeah I’m weaker in the back lines at the moment… any team is not super so feel free to give me crap about it. I’m still living the petracca and Billings dream which sucks, but I’m determined to upgrade before fixing them this year:

      Laird, Seedsman (?), savage, Sicily, Murray, Rice, (Coffield, Pearce)

      Mitchell, Mclean, coniglio, Merrett, Parker, T Kelly, Phillips, (Mutch, Banfield)

      Gawn, Grundy (Crossley, Cameron)

      D Smith, Heeney, Fritsch, Billings, Petracca, Ronke, (Rat, Frampton)

      Bank is around $550k

      Definitely grabbing rocky… that’s all I know!!

      Appreciate any ideas!

      • Simon

        May 30, 2018 at 1:27 pm

        Double upgrade? Swing McLean forward and get someone like Danger for Rat and go Petracca to Rocky

      • David C

        May 30, 2018 at 3:41 pm

        Keep your mid/for swing. You need to get rid of some deadwood before the byes. Move on the RAT.

        • Simon

          May 30, 2018 at 3:49 pm

          Danger to get Fwd DPP, probs hence why I suggested him

          • blimp on the radar

            May 30, 2018 at 8:20 pm

            Looking at rat to rocky and then Mutch to Brayshaw. DPP link may be handy during byes… and I’m having a crack at Brayshaw being a top 6 defender or thereabouts.
            Means I miss smith but you can’t get them all I guess.

          • blimp on the radar

            May 30, 2018 at 8:20 pm

            Thanks for the input though!!

  4. blimp on the radar

    May 30, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Thanks for your knowledge and efforts there milkmen!

    My question is around who to trade out… is Mutch a chance of a return with his weird headaches (and in a team that has hit a bit of form… but ultimately will probably not make finals and should blood some kids)…. or do I lose Murray who sounds out of the picture according to bucks but was playing alright and gave them something I reckon… or the rat who is a goner but not dropping further in price (and who I’m sad for because I loved watching him).

    How would you order them in terms of trade out targets?

    • Dardymen

      May 30, 2018 at 9:45 am

      the rat has to go first murray will always be a chance to return and still has a lower BE than his average

  5. Digga

    May 30, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Great write-up again. I will be chasing cheap def/mid, mid/fwd over the byes – thanks for giving us who to to keep an eye on in the “twos”.

  6. Lukas

    May 30, 2018 at 9:38 am

    Great write up as always boys!
    Tim Smith (on field) or Giro + $100K

    • Lachy

      May 30, 2018 at 9:58 am

      Smith this week, Giro next week with 1 of 3 trades. easy

    • James

      May 30, 2018 at 2:26 pm


    • hypojezza

      May 31, 2018 at 12:47 pm

      I think you should ask the jungle muffin.

  7. Dardymen

    May 30, 2018 at 9:43 am

    smith for sure

  8. Ethan Hunter

    May 30, 2018 at 9:55 am

    Should I be going Mutch to Smith or Hutchings to Treloar?

    • yo

      May 30, 2018 at 10:17 am

      how are you doing hutch to smith if one is a mid and one is a fwd?

      • David C

        May 30, 2018 at 3:46 pm

        He just moves a dpp mid/for from the forwards to the mids.

  9. ben

    May 30, 2018 at 10:10 am

    When do the new DPP’s come out?

    • Kanye

      May 30, 2018 at 10:33 am

      After rd 11
      Before rd 12 lockout

  10. Big Bear

    May 30, 2018 at 10:13 am

    What trade is better

    Fritch > Tim Smith
    Keefe > Rockliff (would have smith on my bench)

    Murray > Logan Austin (keeping in mind I already have Rice)
    Kelly > Rockliff

    Im thinking I might do option 1, as I can bring Austin in next week for Murray and the price change won’t be as big as the price change in Tim Smith This week?

    • Kanye

      May 30, 2018 at 10:34 am

      Surely kelly to rocky and keefe to tim smith is the better trade

    • Miyagi-san

      May 30, 2018 at 11:57 am

      Big bear – i agree with kayne. Be looking to move kelly and keeffe before murray or fritsch. If you had to move one of the latter ones my vote would be Murray -on the proviso he’snot selected this week. If murray and fristch are both playing id be inclined not to trade either at the minute

  11. Matt

    May 30, 2018 at 10:50 am

    Thanks guys!
    Are there any potential rookies who may get a run from the r10 or r12 bye teams?

    • David C

      May 30, 2018 at 3:48 pm

      Ahern a chance for North. Great game in the two’s.

  12. M8

    May 30, 2018 at 10:59 am

    DEF: Laird, Yeo, Lloyd, Whitfield, Ryan, Doedee (Rice, Murphy)
    MID: Macrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Coniglio, Merrett, Kelly, Phillips, Banfield (Coffield, Mutch)
    RUCK: Martin, Gawn (McInerney, Cameron)
    FWD: McLean, Heeney, Smith, Taranto, Ronke, Guelfi (Giles-Langdon, Spargo)

    Cash: $225k

    Currently have gone Taranto to Rockliff and Murphy (via DPP) to Smith. Then I DPP Rockliff and Spargo benching Banfield and fielding Rocky, having 3 rookies in the FWDS. Thoughts on trades and other options

    • McGlovins

      May 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

      You’ve got couple rooks that are gonna likely lose $ that I’d trade first. I’d def go Langdon to Smith instead of Murphy. If Coffield is named, he’s another one.

      Taranto to Rocky is good though.

    • David C

      May 30, 2018 at 3:55 pm

      Murphy a good chance to be back in this week after Adelaide’s poor performance last week.

  13. McGlovins

    May 30, 2018 at 11:40 am

    Milkmen, my favourite article every week!

    Stuck on whether to go Cunico/Murray for Zorks/Brayshaw. Anyone got some thoughts?

    • McGlovins

      May 30, 2018 at 11:47 am

      That’s either/or, not both.

      • Miyagi-san

        May 30, 2018 at 11:54 am

        If murray doesnt feature again i would be inclined to give him the boot first-thats a lot of coin doing nothing on the bench!

        • McGlovins

          May 30, 2018 at 12:06 pm

          Cheers. Would you do Zorks or Brayshaw (via Seeds DPP)?

  14. Miyagi-san

    May 30, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    Any thoughts on some trade ideas at the moment:
    1) Pearce/Kelly to Rocky/Austin + 3k
    (no fwd cover unless clarke named)

    2) Murray/Rat to Rocky/Austin + 49k (benches ronke/fritsch, all lines covered)

    3) Billings/Kelly to Smith/Rocky +156k
    (No fwd cover unless clarke named)

    4) Dow/Kelly to Rocky/Smith + 35k
    (No mid cover unless clarke named)

    All pending selection carnage obviously-I know Smith won’t keep scoring at his current rate but his BE presents very good $$ generation in short period between now and his bye. Even with a cracker game austin wont jump as much as smith would this week…

    • Alan J

      May 30, 2018 at 12:41 pm

      So 2 gives you a full team and the other 3 only give you a full team if Clarke is named??

      I mean, technically it’s a choice, but it’s not really a hard one……

      • McGlovins

        May 30, 2018 at 12:44 pm

        He’s not talking doughnuts, just no bench cover.

    • McGlovins

      May 30, 2018 at 12:42 pm

      That’s a tough one. Pearce and Kelly are leaking, Murray not likely to play, Rat gone for the year and Billings just sucks. Not sure why Dow is in your sights though.

      But Pearce, Kelly (then Rat, Murray, Billings) are the ones that need to go first IMHO. So option 1. Just have to wing it with no FWD cover – the odds are in your favour there though.

    • Euman


      May 30, 2018 at 6:46 pm

      The Milky Bar Kids are talking up Rice over Austin just saying

  15. Gus

    May 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    If Ahern gets named would you pick him over T Smith? Can’t accomodate the 2 due to my bye structure and he’s 100k less

    • McGlovins

      May 30, 2018 at 1:07 pm


      • Gus

        May 30, 2018 at 1:09 pm

        Would you care to elaborate

        • McGlovins

          May 30, 2018 at 1:26 pm


          We know what Smith’s ceiling is. But more importantly he’s a certainty to generate cash and hold his spot in the team for the near term. If he gets 80 points plus, you’ll get yourself up to $100K. Even if he spuds this week he’ll make you $50K, has the brownie points to stay in the team and you can trade during his bye week (13) or keep, depending on his next game.

          Ahern is an unknown, if he gets 80+, you’ll see $30-40K. But if he spuds you get $5K and a high BE, + plus need to waste a trade to get rid of him if he’s dropped.

          • Gus

            May 30, 2018 at 1:39 pm

            Thank you sir

          • Screech

            May 30, 2018 at 5:09 pm

            i cant afford smith due to my structure. if ahern plays he will be straight in for me.

          • j

            May 30, 2018 at 6:22 pm

            The same rationale applies to people thinking Smith vs. Giro (if named).

  16. Don

    May 30, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    Nothing on Roarke Smith WB?

    • Gus

      May 30, 2018 at 2:28 pm

      If he scores well this week definitely a downgrade option for after his bye

  17. John

    May 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Few options guys, any help appreciated

    1. Kelly to McLean and Stephenson to Smith
    2. Kelly to Rocky and Stephenson to Smith
    3. Kelly to McLean and Taranto to Rocky

    Currently sitting at option 1 as not completely sold on rocky yet and really want McLean before his price increases any more. Was hoping to get him this week and then wouldn’t need to touch my forward line during byes. Could go option 3 but probably won’t give me enough money to upgrade other players e.g. Cunico, Doedee during the byes.

    Any help appreciated

    • Rambo Tambo

      May 30, 2018 at 3:13 pm

      I like 2, nets you a decent bank and better bye cover. I’ve brought in the same 2 and will be bringing in McLean after his bye

  18. Jimmyboi

    May 30, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    1. Field Doedee and T. Smith
    2. Field Rice and Fritsch

    • James

      May 30, 2018 at 3:14 pm

      2nd option as Fritsch will be more likely to score 75+, whereas we don’t know how low Smith will score on a bad day, could be sub-50

  19. Johnny

    May 30, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    Stuck on who to bring in as a downgrade target…

    Logan Austin ($222,000 DEF BE -16)
    Bailey Rice ($225,000 DEF BE -11)
    Timothy Smith

    In all cases I will need to field them over the byes

    • Nostro

      May 30, 2018 at 4:50 pm

      Hey Johhny, tough call and given Smith is a forward much depends on your needs.

      Anyway in my order given they will be fielded over the byes:
      1 Smith (seems good in a winning unit atm)
      2 Rice (looks like a solid small defender, 100% in the mould of his old man)
      3 Austin (very uncertain, he’s never scored much till the weekend – there was so much free ball being passed around with no pressure. I don’t think he’ll score well generally)

    • Euman


      May 30, 2018 at 6:52 pm

      The milkos like rice

    • Tommo

      May 30, 2018 at 7:33 pm

      I’d go Rice for JS.

  20. Screech

    May 30, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    quick question, i had no cover in DEF and FWD last week because of Keeffe, Duman, Clarke & Crowden. should i be looking at trading these guys out? If so which rookie should i be looking at getting and fielding in DEF? It will also mean I miss out on guys like Rocky & Gus Brayshaw this week :( Some options include

    R Smith

    • PowerAde

      May 30, 2018 at 6:32 pm

      upgrade/downgrade maybe for cash generation?

      grab rocky and a rook, I like Austin but everyone else seems to like rice, out of them two.

      • Screech

        May 30, 2018 at 6:36 pm

        is that you tim?

        the only place i need to find someone to field this week is in DEF and I am not keen on fielding either st kilda defender. Austin had a field day once his direct opponent Riewoldt went down…can’t see it happening too often. His numbers suggest he is a lockdown defender.

        I have come up with 575k for a DEF. the best i have come up with is Heath Shaw lol

        • Euman


          May 30, 2018 at 6:53 pm

          Bummer so short for Brayshaw I would hold cash rather than settle on Shaw imo

          • Screech

            May 30, 2018 at 7:11 pm

            interestingly shaw has only one bad score 50 vs kangas. the rest are 75+, mostly in the 80s and 90s. his score last week was a reflection of a change in role. gws restructured their backline, freeing up heater. he scored 23 in the last 5 minutes of the game. impressive junk,,,

          • Screech

            May 30, 2018 at 7:17 pm

            the only other option for me is to trade out neale. now hear me out. i already own fyfe. and e langdon and walters. yes i know ive gone freo overkill but the latter 3 all tonned up on the weekend. fyfe and walters both had 120+ langdon has been in my team for over a month and is going for his 4th straight tonne this week. neale has scored over 106 once this season. lol. it would mean i could get rocky and brayshaw!

          • Screech

            May 30, 2018 at 7:21 pm

            sorry scratch the brayshaw and rocky. the best i can come up with is rocky and dbj

  21. Nostro

    May 30, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    Yeah Screech – Heater has been pretty good. I think peeps typically against rolling the dice with him from previous years, where he’s been a rollercoaster. Seems fairly steady basically this year as you pointed out.

    • Screech

      May 30, 2018 at 8:21 pm

      ok thx man. i haven’t made my mind up yet but i guess i will have worked something out by lockout

  22. Screech

    May 30, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    Who to field?

    1. Andrew Brayshaw(Freo) vs Col@MCG on Sunday OR/

    2. Ed Phillips(Stk) vs Wce@Optus on Saturday night; scored well vs Freo at the same ground a couple of weeks back…

    • Jono

      May 31, 2018 at 2:36 pm

      I’d say Brayshaw, Collingwood doesn’t have a defensive midfield really. But tough call!

  23. TJ

    May 30, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    Thinking of doing the double downgrade this week:

    Kelly > Smith (Spargo DPP)
    Murray > Rice

    Leaves me with a double upgrade next week ($950k in bank)
    Rocky and possibly Walters or Mclean (after bye)

    Rocky will go up by 40-50k but don’t want to miss out on Smith and Rice (RDT so prices haven’t changed

    Good idea?

  24. Jake

    May 30, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    Rank in order of importance:


  25. Jacko

    May 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Would you trade Murray or Pearce to Rice?

  26. Grovers Guns

    May 30, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Already have TSmith
    Wondering about the chances of some rookie cashcows being blooded over the bye rounds so I can keep upgrading through them
    Is Rice worth getting now and then basically triple downgrade next week unless Danger gets FWD status as or biting the bulletin and going either Murray > Yeo or Kelly > Gaff now? If Danger was guaranteed FWD status I would get him instead of Gaff
    For 1 week don’t mind missing the extra points if it gives me a genuine cashcow for a couple of weeks if no other rookies are coming through.
    Giro all I can see
    Next weeks trades are only god for cash as I don’t want to get premos who still have a bye considering I am heavy R14 and close R13 but only a few R12

  27. Bob

    May 30, 2018 at 11:31 pm

    What are the chances of Barlow getting a consistent game this season?

    • Tom

      May 31, 2018 at 4:43 pm

      unlikely it seems, very sad to see.

  28. Tom

    May 31, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    Great write up lads.
    I’ve got 2 spots, who would you field out of Guelfi, T Smith, Ronke and Phillips.

  29. Jono

    May 31, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    Notionally I’ve just “completed” the fwd line bringing in Rocky, but do I trust Billings to outscore Smith? Don’t know who to field, I’m just trying to finish the team before I start side-trading premos

  30. The Cricket

    May 31, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    With Mihocek set to debut this weekend it won’t surprise me at all if Stephenson is dropped

  31. Tom

    May 31, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    move taranto or kelly on to rocky? Taranto BE of 125 vs Kelly BE of 90, will probably trade the other one out next week as both losing cash.

    If i keep Kelly, which rookie should i bench out of Kelly, Phillips, Fritsch, Guelfi and Smith?


  32. brad

    May 31, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    Whens the next dpp? After this weekends games or next weekend?

  33. Bavan

    June 1, 2018 at 12:07 am

    1. who to trade – coffield or mirra?
    2. how to trade to (which def downgrade?) – austin, duman, ridley

    Also, for my second trade – is tim smith a must have or should i go to rocky with that second trade

  34. herg

    June 1, 2018 at 6:31 am

    what are the chances Tim Smith gets RUC?

    • Alan J

      June 1, 2018 at 7:38 am

      Unlikely.. Not enough games to warrant DPP

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