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The Milkmen Review – Round 3

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It was looking like such a productive week for our rookies, plenty of happy coaches and then on the last Sunday one of our key cash cow rookies go down.  Got to love this game! We wish you a speedy recovery Liam Ryan.

Anyway, here’s our review of the key rookies following all the Round 3 action.

Those That Matter 

Collingwood Vs Carlton

We got a mix bag from our rookies in the first game of Round 3. The clear standout was Sam Murray (Def. $292,000, -14 BE), who dashed his way to 90 points and the Round 3 Rising Star nominee. What Murray lacks in disposal polish, he more than makes up for with his ability to take the game on. He is now settled in the back six at the Pies, and with a low breakeven he is clearly a rookie to continue holding on to and playing on your field. A rookie who you will not want to play on your field, or hold on to for too much longer, is Jaidyn Stephenson (Mid/Fwd. $301,000, 40 BE). On paper Stephenson didn’t do too much wrong, with 100% Disposal Efficiency, the reality is though, there were only six disposals. The unfortunate fact for Stephenson is that Blair, Elliot, De Goey and Fasolo all played strong games in the reserves. When this is combined with the fact that Wells is supposably only one week away, you can’t help but feel he is playing on borrowed time. As long as he is named  then there is no reason to trade him out this week as he should cover his break even against the Crows.

The main relevant rookie at Carlton in this game was Paddy Dow (Mid. $287,000, 28 BE). At the start of the third quarter when Carlton tried to rally, Dow, was a key part of that momentum shift and was involved a lot more in the play. From that moment on he was really impressive in the game and ended up on 62 points. His spot in the team is safe and he maintains a low breakeven so coaches can keep enjoying the cash generation as Dow sits on your bench.

Port Adelaide Vs Brisbane

Only two key cash cow rookies took the field for this game. The most popular of the two was Dom Barry (Mid. $275,000, 11 BE). Most owners were quite worried after his 40 point effort. Watching the game, the interesting part was Barry was lining up on the wing for majority of the centre bounces, so it wasn’t a role change that effected his scoring. Given what Barry has provided us fantasy coaches so far we are willing to forgive this effort and see it being a minor blimp in his season. Joe Atley is knocking down the door in the reserves but he tends to play a more inside role which bodes well for Barry.

It’s funny how something as simple as a mark can justify all the recruiters work, and that’s exactly what happened with Cameron Rayner (Mid/Fwd. $258,000, 37 BE) on the weekend. Rayner had four tackles and two contested marks on his way to his new personal best of 52 dreamteam points. This was enough effort to have us getting rid of any job security concerns we had last week for the No.1 Draft pick. Our prediction that he will take time this year but start spitting out 60-70s in the back half of the year stands for now. However, there is no harm in trading Rayner to a more promising rookie in the mean time if the timing allows.

Melbourne Vs North Melbourne

OK, at some point we have to start putting Ben Jacobs (Mid. $341,000, -6 BE) in to the mix for the best rookie cash cows of 2018. After cracking the 100 last week, he backed it up with an 86 point effort against the Dees. Jacobs had the expected tagging role on Clayton Oliver, so again was always around the ball. What he seems to have done is been watching old tapes of Kane Cornes, because his ability to work off his opponent and find the ball himself has increased. Still the majority of his points are coming from tackles which shouldn’t change. This week expect Jacobs to go to either Cripps (similar player to Seb Ross) or Marc Murphy. If he goes to Murphy then he’ll spend a bit more time in Roos defence to follow him but we’re not sure whether that’s a good or bad thing. What we know is a bad thing is the form and job security of Luke Davies-Uniake (Mid. $273,000, 39 BE). After his 7 disposal and 26 point effort, his breakeven of 39 is starting to get a bit high based on what he has been producing. If he is named next week then it’s a hold from us but we aren’t so sure he will be named next week.

There was a worrying moment this weekend for our ever reliable forward rookie Bayley Fritsch (Fwd. $295,000, 19 BE). It wasn’t during the North game where he scored one goal and 47 dreamteam points. It was during the Coburg vs Casey Demons VFL match, when Harley Balic kicked six goals and Sam Weideman kicked five. The good news for Fritsch owners (all 45% of them) is that the Demons had a win, so it’s not likely that they will try change the team too much. The bad news is that there are a couple of players performing very well in the VFL who play a very similar role to Fritsch. Just something to keep an eye on at selection.

Gold Coast Vs Fremantle

If it wasn’t for a 27 point last quarter than, Andrew Brayshaws’ (Mid. $307,000, 33 BE), somewhat respectable 43 points, would have looked a lot different. It seemed that Brayshaw was spending a lot more time up forward during this match and he only spent 61% of the game on the field. This is a lot lower than previous weeks and it didn’t look like he was carrying any type of noticeable injury. For now, we will put this performance down to player management but coaches beware placing him on the field this week against the big bodies of the GWS midfield. Despite playing at Full Back at times, Bailey Banfield (Mid. $259,000, 4 BE), was still able to work his way to a 52 point game. It’s clear that Banfield has found his niche at Fremantle after another week of playing a defensive role, this time on Aaron Hall. Ross Lyon has always loved having a tagger in his side too, just ask Crowley, Suban, Barlow, De Boer and Sheridan. This is great news for Banfields’ job security and for owners looking for cash generation. Unfortunately we won’t be able to put him on our field any time soon, as he looks to find his feet in the role. Adam Cerra (Mid. $294,000, 27 BE) and Mitch Crowden (Mid/Fwd. $201,000, 0 BE) scored 48 and 65 points respectively. Of the two we are still more impressed by Cerra although the price difference makes Crowden a more likely option. We’re still not convinced he is a must have option, as he has no means secured his spot in the lineup, but he is one of the options to replace Ryan for sure.

The only key rookie for Gold Coast again in this game was Nick Holman (Mid. $321,000, -7 BE). His 67 points effort only included 6 tackles (bit harsh) as he played more of a high half forward role. Michael Barlow was best on ground for Gold Coast in the NEAFL but we just can’t see him taking Holmans’ spot so you should be able to hold and play him on your field in the short term. This is good news for us as it means we will be able to scream out “Hold him Holman” during Gold Coast games for a little longer.

Sydney vs. GWS 

Not too much to discuss from a rookie perspective this game. Jeremy Finlayson (Def. $296,000, -4 BE) was the pick of them, collecting 20 possessions on his way to 59 points. GWS were still feeding him the ball regularly as they clearly like him with ball in hand. You can continue to play Finlayson on your ground with confidence of a plus 60 score. For GWS, Isaac Cumming (Def. $170,000, 27 BE) and Aiden Bonar (Mid/Fwd. $250,000, 39 BE) both performed strongly in the NEAFL, collecting 27 and 28 disposals respectively. Cumming was on our watch list early on in the preseason and you would think he wouldn’t be too far away from a debut.  Unfortunately, Ryan Griffen and Toby Greene are both expected to return this week and will obviously take priority.

St Kilda vs Adelaide

Do yourself a favour and try work out a way to bring Nicholas Coffield (Mid/Def. $276,000, BE 16) in to your side. A straight swap for an Aaron Naughton type is not out of the question. After scoring 49 points by half time our pre-season favourite managed to make his way to 73 points. During Alan Richardson’s announcement to Coffield that he would be playing in his first game during the week, he mentioned that he was being brought in due to his ability to take the game on. Those words must have been ringing through his ears as Coffield looked dangerous with all his possesions as he went at 89% Disposal efficiency. Add in the fact he scored a set shot goal with ease and you can’t see Richardson dropping the kid any time soon. Unfortunately the same can’t be said for Ben Long (Fwd. $254,000, 36 BE) who only scored 30 points from 11 possesions and made 5 clangers along the way. After back to back quiet games even if he survives selection on Thursday then look to trade him out in the next couple of weeks before that breakeven slips too high.

The Adelaide duo of Tom Doedee (Def. $304,000, -4 BE) and Lachlan Murphy (Def. $238,000, -4 BE) scored 64 and 66 points respectively. Nothing to discuss here really as the two keep going about their business and are in no danger of losing their spots in the near future. Special mention to the coaches who held Murphy after his first round effort as he has paid them back in spades.

Richmond vs. Hawks

Jack Higgins’ (Mid/Fwd. $247,000, 26 BE) first game was just ok from a fantasy perspective. Higgins kicked two goals and collected 12 possessions. He spent almost all of his game time in the forward line. Higgins will become a fantasy beast, but at this current stage, he is hard to recommend with confidence. He has an inflated price tag, is playing as an almost permanent forward and his job security is not great. Having said that, we love him, and it was a great start to his career.

Western Bulldogs Vs. Essendon

Tim English (Ruck/Fwd. $285,000, -3 BE) performed strongly as he was given his chance to essentially solo ruck. For as long as English is allowed to play this role, we believe his scores will be similar to the 86 he scored on the weekend. If you already have two premiums in the ruck department, you can always move English to the forward line using some DPP action. This will allow you to play English on your field as a forward. The other strong performer from the Bulldogs was Ed Richards (Def. $279,000, 4 BE). Richards scored 85 points, showed explosive dash off half back and also a strong appetite to chase and tackle. The way he is performing suggests his job security is very solid. Aaron Naughton (Def. $288,000, 28 BE) is just plugging along scoring 50’s. Billy Gowers (Fwd. $255,000, 8 BE) scored 44 points and again kicked one goal three. If you don’t have Gowers yet, we wouldn’t recommend jumping on now.

West Coast Vs. Geelong

The big question that comes out of this game is ‘what do we do with Liam Ryan?’ Please see below for our thoughts on Ryangate. Jake Waterman (Fwd. $260,000 -19 BE) was superb! Despite not kicking a goal, Waterman presented well all day, taking nine marks and collecting 20 possessions. Even if Kennedy does return this week, it’s hard to see Waterman making way for him, he’s playing too well. After showing promise last week, Daniel Venables ($222,000 BE 15) was back to his low scoring ways, amassing just nine possessions for his score of 30. William Rioli (Fwd. $181,000, 15 BE) spent more time in the midfield however still only managed 44 points. For Geelong, Esava Ratugolea (Fwd. $218,000, -13 BE) was excellent. Ratugolea kept bobbing up, taking strong marks up forward, pinch hitting in the ruck and kicking two goals one. Gary Ablett’s injury can only be seen as a positive for Tim Kelly’s (Mid. $382,000, -6 BE) already impressive scoring output. Kelly collected 19 disposals, kicked a clutch goal and scored 79 points. If you have Kelly in your side, you should be in no hurry to look at trading him out. Another player who may benefit from Ablett’s injury is Lachlan Fogarty (Mid. $299,000 16 BE). Fogarty scored 67 points after kicking one goal four.

The Liam Ryan Replacement Options 

With the unfortunate injury to Liam Ryan that was mentioned above, we now need to look at replacements as it appears as though he will be sidelined for “an extended period. Ryan needs to be traded so we have made a list of the possible replacements below.

The Playing Cash Cow Rookies

Mitch Crowden ($201,000, 0 BE) – As mentioned above he is not our favourite of all the rookies that play for Fremantle but as long as they keep winning, his position is safe. Not for us.

Jake Waterman ($260,000, -19 BE) – Surely he has done enough to hold his spot once Kennedy returns. If you’re playing the breakeven game, he’s your man.

Willie Rioli ($181,000, 15 BE) – No Ryan means his job security has increased further and hopefully will pick up some of the scoring slack.

Jack Henry ($191,000, 7 BE) – Injuries at the club have increased his job security but can’t help but feel he is the first on the chopping block once Henderson returns.

Jack Higgins ($247,000, 26 BE) – Absolute fantasy beast in his junior days but unfortunately won’t be playing that role at Richmond. Did enough to secure his spot in the forward line at the Tigers for now and is one of the top options.

Esava Ratugolea ($218,000, -13 BE) – Has been impressive so far. Got to pinch hit in the ruck on the weekend however with the likely inclusion of either Stanley or Smith, that is unlikely to continue.

Cameron Rayner ($258,000, 37 BE) – The best like for like replacement in terms of job security.

Billy Gowers ($255,000, 8 BE) – One for the brave people out there but what we’ve seen with Gowers is what you will get.

The Possible Cash Cow Rookies to Come In

Aidan Bonar ($250,000, 39 BE) – Has started going beast mode in the NEAFL and a favourite at the club. 28 disposals and 8 tackles on the weekend has moved him up the pecking order.

Patrick Wilson ($170,000, 27 BE) – Similar to Bonar has started to dominate in the SANFL. Had 112 points last week and 121 points this week.  If he was at any other club would be the lock to take Ryan’s spot on your bench.

Lachlan Keefe ($170,000, 27 BE) – Has been the emergency three times for GWS and that’s the main reason we decided to include him.

William Frampton/Sam Hayes ($170,000/$178,000, 27/28 BE) – Will Port Adelaide react to the domination of their make shift ruck department on the weekend? If so then one of these two guys should get the nod and are a viable short term option for your bench. Sam Hayes has had more hitouts in both SANFL games but Frampton is more capable around the ground.

Cameron Zurhaar ($234,000, 37 BE) – Only played a half of football in the VFL on the weekend as he was a potential late in for the club. Didn’t end up playing his first game for 2018, but his half of football was impressive enough in the VFL to suggest that this week could be his week.

To Summarise

Jake Waterman is the option we would recommend first. The main issue with him is job security, however his strong performances should keep him in the team. If Ratugolea is named with no other ruckmen in the side, then he would be option number two. Wilson or Bonar being named would make them number three. Higgins is the risky final option who has a big upside.

Keep An Eye Out For

In addition to the forward rookies mentioned above there a few other names to keep an eye on.

Injury to Marchbank could mean that Cam O’Shea (Def. $237,000, 28 BE) comes back in to the team.

Zac Bailey (Mid. $242,000, 38 BE) was again named in the best for Brisbane in the NEAFL following his 22 disposal effort.

The injuries to all the key players at Geelong could open the door for Charlie Constable ($200,000, 31 BE) or Jordan Cunico (Mid. $222,000, 35 BE)

Brody Mihocek (Def. $170,000, 27 BE) keeps doing nothing wrong in the VFL for the Pies and has also been named emergency for the first three rounds.

For Sydney Swans, Sam Reid’s eight-week quad injury surely opens the door for Darcy Cameron (Ruc. $170,000, 27 BE). Most of you will already have him on the bench though.

Twitter Questions

Covered this one a bit above but just to go in to further detail, In Round 1 Sam Hayes/Frampton shared the ruck duties but over the weekend it seemed to be more bias towards Hayes in the ruck. They both performed well from a dreamteam perspective scoring 98 and 103 respectively.

Exactly right. The injury to Ablett only increases his job security. Fogarty kicked one goal four on the weekend so his score could have been a lot higher. Plus Fogarty had massive numbers as a junior so he certainly has a big fantasy game in him.

Marchbank’s injury certainly opens the door for him. O’Shea was very poor when given his chance last week though. Fingers crossed he gets another chance this week as we all know he can score. Wait for teams on thursday, but we would think his inclusion is likely.

We believe he is better than he has been scoring. He does have tough match up this week however, versing GWS away. Appears to have good job security and should continue to work into the season. The scores will come.

Ratugolea for us. If he keeps pinch hitting in the ruck and getting up the ground, he should continue to score.

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:05 am

    Great article mate, always very helpful. Replacing Ryan with Watermann or Ratugolea, most likely the likely the former

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:08 am

    Great article again guys,

    I am a Jacobs owner and have loved his output the last 2 weeks but i have had him on my bench, which has cost me points and league wins.

    This week I am playing him on my field hopefully he continues to flourish like he has been. What do you think about him on the field?
    Also I’m a port fan and feel that if SPP isnt suspended by the club Dom Barry will lose his spot for one of either Hayes or Frampton or even Joe Atley.

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      April 11, 2018 at 8:58 am

      We’re not losing much with SPP out… I think Atley is a chance, but Karl Amon seems to be next cab off the rank. It’ll be interesting to see what they do about the ruck situation, as the comments coming from the PAFC coaches made it really sound like they will persist with the Westhoff and Dixon set up. Hinkley can be stubborn!
      I was at the game and it was hard to watch Stef completely towel them up… almost cost us!

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        The Milkmen

        April 12, 2018 at 9:55 am

        Agreed that Atley is a good like for like replacement for SPP if required by Port Adelaide.
        Barry has enough credits in the bank to have a bad game or two don’t stress.

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    The Spud

    April 11, 2018 at 8:36 am

    You know its a good article if you don’t have any follow up questions

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Great article again fellas!
    Who would you field out of Brawyshaw, Banfield or Dow this weekend?
    I am thinking Dow vs North Melbourne.
    I cant get it right, First week fielded Dow for a 47, backed him in again for a 37 then changed to Brawshaw for a 43.

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      Grovers Guns

      April 11, 2018 at 9:52 am

      You would expect Dow but I would back Banfield.
      Can see him following most likely Coniglio (one reason I am not getting him this week) or Kelly and therefore being around the ball a lot

      I am actually trading Brayshaw out this week going to Fyfe (McGrath down to Coffield)

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        April 11, 2018 at 10:33 am

        Yea Banfield seems to get it done, I hope he tags Kelly not Cogs lol. I think he might tag Whitfield tho to be honest, showed last week he couldnt handle attention and plays a vital role off half back.

        Nice trades, I thought about Brayshaw – Coffield.

        But I think I am going-
        Trelaor – Bailey Williams (via Finlayson DPP), Liam Ryan – Mitch Robinson

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          The Milkmen

          April 12, 2018 at 9:57 am

          Yeah Dow is really finding his feet and is a fine option over Brayshaw. Banfield has shown he will follow any player on the field and his ability in pre-season to kick goals perhaps make him a good forward match up against Whitfield. Always hard to predict who Ross the Boss will put someone on though.

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:53 am

    Thanks for the great summary!

    After watching Ratugolea jump all over Nic Nat on Sunday, I can’t see how they will not pump game time into him. Tons of potential there I reckon, and I am trading him in over Waterman. Will be handy if he gets Ruck dpp status too…

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:55 am

    A lot of those potential new rookies are quite expensive hey? Looking forward to Harrison Wigg getting his chance @ $170K!

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:57 am

    Great article gents

    Quick question how did WIGG watch go??

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      The Milkmen

      April 12, 2018 at 10:00 am

      Wigg watch saw him get 13 disposals for 56 dreamteam points. Still a few weeks away as he needs to build base fitness.

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:14 am

    Thanks for the article guys! always helpful!

    Would you recommend playing Fritsch or English on field?

    Hoping Frampton gets named and I can bring English onto my forward line through DPP

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      The Milkmen

      April 12, 2018 at 10:00 am

      If another ruckmen is named at Bulldogs this week then stick with Fritsch. If not then go with English.

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    Shaun Canavan

    April 11, 2018 at 9:22 am

    I must be the maddest coach in Australia. Looking at holding Merrett to go OConnor to The Coff and Ryan to Rat or Bonar if named. Rank 24k and focus on cash generation this week unfortunately. FMDT. Looking forward to welcoming Wigg, Constable and Cameron in the coming weeks. Surely Horse has to give Cameron a run now that Reid is out for 8, if he wants to be competitive. He may be young but has the body to support. Hopefully Bonar and Cumming get a run soon enough and manage a few games. Injuries and form will dictate the latter two’s chances I feel.

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      April 11, 2018 at 2:27 pm

      Well, if your mad for your trades, so am I – exact same options.

      I tried various options through exiting Merrett, but he will come good soon, even though money will be lost over next 2-3 weeks. Even so, in my estimate, we get more cash generation, though and more weekly points by keeping Merrett (unless he gets concussed again), and using Coff and Rat for cash generation.

      So keeping Merrett, and trading O’Connor to Coffield and Ryan to Ratagoela, for me.

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        April 11, 2018 at 2:31 pm

        But will surely jettison Merrett if he fails this week and will curse myself for my stupidity!

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          April 11, 2018 at 3:26 pm

          no you won’t, you will do exactly the same thing I will do. you will keep him for the year and hope he turns it around unless he has a season ending injury because he will drop so much you will not be able to sideways him, he will be 170k before you know it

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          April 12, 2018 at 10:28 pm

          Guy great banter. Hope you’ve had some luck at the selection table…..

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        April 11, 2018 at 5:44 pm

        Plugger IMO you are missing the point. Making money……. axe Merrett asap…….. get him back later if you want (I wouldn’t he started getting the weekly tag for the final 6 games of 2017). I’m doing the same with Billings. He is bleeding cash but could turn it around this week…… has to go…… cheers

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          Guy Incognito

          April 11, 2018 at 6:22 pm

          there’s different points… if you trade out someone every time they start to lose money you will never complete your team and be always chasing scores!

          Simple enough, if you think the player will be top 10-15 (ie. average within a couple of points what the top group will) then you keep them no matter the financial situation. The trades are better off fixing guys like Ryan, ZGL, Stephenson, Rayner, Brayshaw, Rocky (ie role change not just poor form) or any real problems.

          While they’re in your team you haven’t really lost money, you only lose the money when you trade them out.

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            April 11, 2018 at 8:24 pm

            Guy this game is all about upgrading (ie having money to upgrade)……… Merrett has lost $182k be 163…….. scratch another $60k…….. by the time you get rid of him he is a mid-pricer (he already Is)….

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            The Cricket

            April 11, 2018 at 8:57 pm

            Again, there’s no loss of money if you keep him. And cash is generated elsewhere, by buying cheap cows and then selling them when they’ve fattened (could be rookies or others who’re underpriced, usually thru longterm injury). Losing value is not (necessarily) the same thing as losing cash!

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            April 11, 2018 at 9:02 pm

            My bad cricket…….I’m assuming we are all playing for the car…… he’s averaging 53.7 ………….. he’s a gun!

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            Guy Incognito

            April 11, 2018 at 10:07 pm

            it takes a lot of players around a month to recover from head knocks – look at Gaff after the Jonas cheap shot a few years ago. Next 2-3 weeks was well down on production then turned it around.

            It is about upgrading and generating money to upgrade, assuming he comes good (which is the consensus) it will only take 2 scores before he is making money reasonably quick. That’s 2 trades to save $60k over 3-4 weeks. The amount of money you then need to invest to get someone who will score similar or slightly more (110-115) will cost another 60-80k. So suddenly you have used two trades and spent 60k to save 60k.

            If you have Ryan, Venables, Brayshaw, Naughton, Fogarty (Adel), ZGL, O’Connor etc you are going to generate far more money trading these guys down to ensure cash generation. The example given above has Ryan and O’Connor – two guys not playing (or reliably playing) and thus not making money.

            The advice by playing the percentages and looking for cash generation and upgrading (this is what the game is all about! having money to upgrade right?) should be fix your non-playing rooks first, hold your underperforming premos who you have selected for a reason (ie. 2+ years of data for Zach).

            You will make the most money over a 4 week period by bringing in Coffield and another rookie (there’s 12 with -ive breakevens) who will score well and play consistently. JS is paramount so you can fix premos or tweak rookies at your control so you’re not constantly scrambling for a full team or making forced trades when the unpredictable happens.

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            April 12, 2018 at 2:58 am

            Guy Where are the $170k guys are you trading these rooks down to? What is their js when/if they come in? Wigg? Keefe? + 4 others. Are the rooks that you want to cut fat enough to harvest to make a significant upgrade?

            For me This week Billings goes. Not because I don’t think he won’t be better later in the year. He is still valuable but bleeding money. Billings and Brayshaw out Coniglio and Coffield in. dpp Sicily (yes I know he is shit). Coniglio becomes m6 and I take a punt on Coffield. If I don’t axe Billings before he drops another 30 – 40k I’ll miss coniglio as he goes up. Same story with those who have got Merrett.

            We shouldn’t care that Merrett is injured and might be back to normal in a few weeks. He is bleeding money. (Also Check Merretts last 6 games 2017 @dtlive. Uninjured 2 good scores & 4 scores under 100. Afl coaches moved the mid-field tag off Heppell and onto Merrett because he is more damaging. Heppell 5 of 6 100 plus.)

            Cut him loose ASAP. Get the best downgrade/upgrade you can and move on.

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            Alan J

            April 12, 2018 at 6:43 am

            If Cogs is your M6 (he’s the 3rd highest scoring MID) then who are the other 5?

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            April 12, 2018 at 11:43 am

            Mitch, Selw, Gibbs, Parker, neale & coniglio

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            Alan J

            April 12, 2018 at 12:01 pm

            Ohhh, ok.. So Cogs is actually your M3 with Neale as your M6

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            Guy Incognito

            April 12, 2018 at 5:32 pm

            Not trading all of those down this week, you only have 2 trades. In theory we will start going 1 up 1 down so we don’t need a 170k rook for every non-premium in out team. There’s great options in the mids, backs and… not the forwards so much; maybe Crowden/ Guelfi. Trading non-playing or LTI players should generally be first point of call. Don’t have to be 170k just someone who will make a bunch of money, I usually wait a week or two to see role/ JS/ form etc.

            IF you have no other issues I like the tactic of trading Billings – tough run, changed role, bad team… But don’t think that is a luxury all have.

            If you have Ryan, ZGL, Rayner, Naughton none are scoring or making money – time to get the best upgrade/ downgrade and move on. Completing the team is best done by cash generation through cheap players outscoring their price point not by sideways trading clogging up half of trades.

            For the record I never had Merrett due to the finish to last year. Still think he will be a 105-115 (740k-815k) type player.

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            Guy Incognito

            April 12, 2018 at 5:36 pm

            Also… “Where are the $170k guys are you trading these rooks down to? What is their js when/if they come in?” – isn’t that why we’re here reading the article?

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            April 12, 2018 at 10:30 pm

            Guy great banter. Hope you’ve had some luck at the selection table…….

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:32 am

    How does Ryan to Rioli sound, if it lets me go Merrett to Gibbs?
    Alternatively I could send Merrett to Cripps or Hunter, which would let me get Waterman?

    Of course it’s all moot if Barry gets the boot…

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      The Milkmen

      April 12, 2018 at 10:02 am

      Rioli has just never shown anything to us even in juniors that shows he is capable of big scores. More the flashy type but if he sits at F8 then there should be no harm in that trade. His job security has gone up but he’s more likely to get injured then dropped anyway.

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:33 am

    Guys. Which one out of Waterman, Rategoela, Crowden or Rioli would you bring in for Ryan?
    I know you said Waterman but have we missed the boat on him?

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      Grovers Guns

      April 11, 2018 at 9:56 am

      Not too late. BE and decent security for at least 2 weeks will see a minimum $60k rise
      I already have him and Crowden but if I had none of them, I would go Ratagoela, Waterman, Crowden (I think his security is good as Ross had mentioned a couple of times about his pressure acts and he loves that) in that order. Wouldn’t consider Rioli

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        The Milkmen

        April 12, 2018 at 10:03 am

        It’s all about team balance. Waterman is our number one if you can afford and fits in to structure. For someone like Ryan you should be able to afford him and as Grovers Guns says there’s still money to be milked from him.

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:56 am

    Thanks for the article.
    I traded out Ben Jacobs for Kelly after the first round. I’m now thinking of getting him back in for Brayshaw.
    Jacobs has certain JS, as you have pointed out. If he continues to average around 70 he will go up at least a further 180k. I would have to trade Fritsch to Rat to make it happen. Good move?

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      The Milkmen

      April 12, 2018 at 10:04 am

      Hmmm really luxury trades for you there so if there’s no other issues in your team and you end up with Jacobs there’s no harm done. Make sure Rat is named with no other real ruckmen in the team before you take the plunge though.

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    Alan J

    April 11, 2018 at 10:01 am

    Great Work Milky Lads!!

    I’ve only brought in the Coff this week as I’ve got most of the decent rookies, just hoping they plump in $$ so I can cash them out for options listed in ‘Keep an eye out for’

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    April 11, 2018 at 10:07 am

    IF Port bring in Frampton, and Ratugolea is named with no Smith/Stanley inclusion…

    Would I be best off trading Ryan down to Ratugolea or Frampton?

    If I went Frampton, he could swing into the rucks allowing me to play English at F6 and brings in nice cash, but could be risky if he doesn’t stay in the team for too long. Cameron (my other bench ruck) also playing would aid this option.

    I would think Ratugolea has slightly better JS, however he could be swung forward any week with Smith/Stanley waiting in the wings. I would also be keeping fingers crossed he gets ruck dpp.

    Thoughts on what would be the best option in this scenario?

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      April 11, 2018 at 5:54 pm

      If Geelong don’t name Zac Smith(or a ruckman fullstop) this week .. the fans will form up a lynch mob and hunt down the match committee & coaching staff. Just say’n

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    April 11, 2018 at 10:27 am

    Great analysis – thanks lads!

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    April 11, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Should I trade out Ryan for
    A – Coffield (push sicliy fwd) or
    B – Ratugolea

    Want to bring in Coffield, but gotta feeling Ratugolea gonna hit 70+ against saints and rise 40k and is gonna get too expensive

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      April 11, 2018 at 3:50 pm

      id go coffield but if you’re that confident on rat go him

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 9:56 am

      Option A

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    April 11, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    I’ve just taken the plunge and traded Zerrett to Jacobs for some cash generation. I don’t even care that i’m changing structures and losing a premo, i’m over him.

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    Gawn For A Quick Nank

    April 11, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    Trade Hurley, Lloyd or Brayshaw to Coffield? Hurley and Lloyd give me about 340k

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      April 11, 2018 at 2:11 pm

      I’m assuming freo brayshaw? don’t you think you’re being a bit too trigger happy with the other two? Out of them definitely brayshaw as it looks like he’ll take a while to score well.

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      Alan J

      April 11, 2018 at 2:25 pm

      Hurley & Lloyd are still likely to be Top 6 DEF, even when Whitfield gets DPP.. If you have them, hold them unless they miss more than 1 week through injury or supsension.

      Wouldn’t want to dump Brayshaw just yet as he has a good 80k+ still to make, but if it has to be 1 of those 3, then it’s got to be the rook.

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      Guy Incognito

      April 11, 2018 at 6:24 pm

      you’re better than that… you know the answer.

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      Like a good name

      April 11, 2018 at 7:54 pm

      ROTFL pisser ur name is too good

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 9:57 am

      Oh wow we wouldn’t do the first two.

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    April 11, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    Dow/Brayshaw – Barry/Fog
    Naughton – Murphy

    Also have O’connor, hoping he plays this week with a few out and if I trade him I most likely can’t trade merrett.

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 9:57 am

      To be honest we would’t be doing either of those trades.

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    April 11, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Rayner’s BE and AVE are the same or near enough. Would you jump off him for waterman / Ratu for the cash generation? Even if Rayner has a +70 game (which I doubt in the short term) his price won’t go up that much would it? Can always jump back on without paying much more. Rayner on field is killing me

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 9:58 am

      Yeah getting Waterman for him is no harm done if you have the luxury trade up your sleeve.

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    April 11, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    Stephenson didn’t kick two goals. Didn’t even kick one. And is sure to be dropped.

    Thanks for the article

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 9:59 am

      Yeahhh that was a huge miscommunication on our end. Thanks for pointing out Ingoes, won’t happen again.

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    April 11, 2018 at 6:57 pm

    Do you guys think it’s too late to bring in Tim English for Ryan? I could easily bring in the Rat or Waterman but an emergency for rucks during the byes plus his low BE is tempting.

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      April 11, 2018 at 7:22 pm

      Yes, unless you plan on keeping him the test of the season.

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    April 11, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    Thanks for the read boys. How far away is our downgrade target in Wigg?

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    April 11, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    Getting rid of Merrett and want Danger!!

    Is this a good idea:

    Merrett > Danger

    Brayshaw > Ratagulea (Fogarty DPP – who becomes 3rd bench Mid)

    I do have Ryan and Langdon in Fwd line but I can’t get rid of them and get Danger

    Should I continue with these trades and hope Brayshaw doesn’t increase much more in value (BE: 33)

    Or play it safer and get rid of Langdon or Ryan and then swap Merrett for a Hunter or someone else???

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 10:00 am

      Think you need as much cover as you can get up forward.

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    April 11, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    Really stuck on what trades i should look at doing this week, 41k in the bank

    Suggestions would be appreciated

    Thinking of going Ryan- Rata then Merrett- Lyons/fyfe

    Cant stand merrett anyone, saying that watch him go 120 this week

    Laird, Hibbered, Lloyd, Finlayson, Murray, Doedee( Pearce, Z.Guthrie)

    Tmitchell, Merrett, Kelly, Jelwood,Neale, Bradshaw, T. Kelly, Holman(Banfield, Barry)

    Martin, Gawn( Cameron, Meek)

    Billings, Heaney, Mclean, Gowers, ryan, Fritsch( rayner, Waterman)

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    April 12, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Is it too late to grab Christensen instead of a rook to replace Ryan?
    Thinking JS is obviously better and may make same cash as some rooks from here?

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    April 12, 2018 at 10:34 am

    bring in lachlan murphy or cam o’shea – just named?

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      The Cricket

      April 12, 2018 at 5:38 pm

      O’Shea just named where? Teams not announced yet …

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    Alan J

    April 12, 2018 at 11:06 am

    Well shit.. With O’Shea being touted as an in, is Coffield a must have?? I can get McLean if I have O’Shea over Coffield..

    O’Shea + McLean
    Coffield + Robbo/Seedsman

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      April 12, 2018 at 12:17 pm

      That’s what is to be appreciated about the selection table! Opens doors; closes doors. I would be tempted by McLean over the other options, even though I would prefer Coffield over O’Shea . . .

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        The Milkmen

        April 13, 2018 at 10:01 am

        Yeah option 1 for us. O’Shea gets his chance.

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    April 12, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Can I please get some advice about benching players?

    Who do I PLAY out of Naughton, Murray & Finlayson?

    Which TWO do I PLAY out of Barry, Higgins, Banfield & Brayshaw?

    Who do I BENCH out of Fritsch, Waterman & Crowden?

    (I can swap Crowden & Higgins around and play say Banfield then…if you get what I mean) Thanks for reading…

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 10:02 am

      FInlayson in defence (rain expected tonight for Pies clash).

      Barry and Brayshaw for midfield

      Bench Crowden unless Fritsch doesn’t survive final teams of course.

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    April 12, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    lachlan murphy or o’shea lads?

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 10:02 am

      O’Shea haha. Team selection answered this for us.

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    April 13, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    G’day Boys ,field 2 out of :
    FWD: Rioli, Fritsch and Gowers ?
    MID: Holman,Coffield,Barry and Banfield ?

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      The Milkmen

      April 13, 2018 at 4:44 pm

      Holman, Coffield

      Gowers and Fritsch (if named)

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