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JLT Notes – Week 2

The DT Talk team compile their notes for every game of the JLT Community Series.

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Carlton v St Kilda – Ikon Park

Wednesday 28 February – By @RoyDT

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The Saints top-10 picks from last year’s NAB AFL Draft Hunter Clark (MID, $258,000) and Nick Coffield (DEF/MID, $256,000) both caught the eye, with Coffield a lock at this stage. He looked great across half back with 20 possessions and five marks for 74 while Clark was also good with two goals and 51 points from only 61% game time.

David Armitage (MID, $459,000)  was limited  to just two games last season with a groin injury and did enough to warrant consideration. He walked straight into the inside mid role and after a slow start finished with 79 points from 24 touches.

You couldn’t do it but Paddy McCartin (FWD, $336,000) looked great and is going to be the man up forward. He kicked two goals and took five marks for 70 points… If he was under 300K, it would be a tough call.

Former North Melbourne defender Aaron Mullett (DEF, $513,000) has been a player of interest Re: the Docherty role but put a line through that after he scored 36 from 78% game time. The most prolific Blues defender was in fact Caleb Marchbank (DEF, $489,000) who tallied 25 possessions and six marks for a team high 90 and looked awesome doing it.

Former Giant, and centrepiece of many mid price break out discussions, Matthew Kennedy (MID, $485,000) was a disappointment with just 40 point, as was fellow break out contender Charlie Curnow (FWD, $502,000) who scored only 42 despite having stints on the ball.

Carlton  also picked top-10 draft picks Paddy Dow (MID, $266,000) and Lochie O’Brien (DEF/MID, $252,000) for their first games (No disrespect to my AFLX). We will need to give Lochie another go after a slow start but Dow looked right at home with 13 possessions, 2 goals and 60 points from 63% TOG. A couple of touches oozed class and he will be a walk-up starter in round one.

As far as premiums go, Patrick Cripps (MID, $692,000) did enough to suggest he is in for a huge year. He looks great following an uninterrupted pre season and seemingly collected possessions at will on his way to 82 with two goals. Ruckman Matthew Kreuzer (RUC, $740,000) looked really impressive pushing forward for two goals and will once again contend for the number one big man in the comp.

Reactionary actions: Get in Coffield and Dow, move Marchbank and Armo up your draft rankings a little.

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GWS Giants v Collingwood – Canberra Oval

Thursday 1 March – By Warnie

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Roy has been keen on Stephen Coniglio (MID, $663,000) since Fantasy opened up. Being priced at less than 100 and with the potential to go to that 110 mark, Cogs ticked all boxes tonight and would be one of those under-priced midfield guys that we should be considering. 97 from 84% TOG (28d – 13 contested, 3m, 5t) was pretty to watch. Fellow midfielder Dylan Shiel (MID, $666,000) pumped out the highest score of the JLT thus far with 134. He collected 29 touches, nine marks four tackles and to help boost his score, kicked two snags. In the free flowing game, which the Giants won by 10 goal against an easy fantasy opponent, Shiel dished up what we would love to see consistently.

Josh Kelly (MID, $795,000) did what he needed to do with 106 in 78% TOG.

It has been spoken about but we got to see it with our own eyes, Lachie Whitfield (MID, $690,000) will be playing in the back-half of the ground this year. He is such a good user of the ball and managed to rack up 25 touches with a whopping 9 marks – sitting back there with Heath Shaw (DEF, $565,000) – which could be a lethal Fantasy combo. Also a handy thing with Whitfield likely to be a DEF come round six. I loved Heater sucking me in. He’s bloody cheap and with the departure of Nathan Wilson and the season ending injury to Nathan Williams, surely he is going to return somewhere near his best this year. His 82 from 73% TOG was impressive – mainly due to the fact he had 20 kicks with just 2 handballs. Heater doing Heater things. The thing to keep in the back of your mind is that Shaw didn’t get one ounce of attention tonight.

Eyes were on Jeremy Finlayson (DEF/MID, $170,000) who played in the backline. As a bargain basement priced player, if he’s there in round one, then we lock and load. 55 from 82% TOG was a nice return and he looked at ease out there, busy early. Finlayson averaged 103 in the NEAFL last season from 8 games. He played one senior match but was injured in the first half for 20 points.

Other rookie priced players of note were Zac Langdon (FWD, $170,000) who had 37 from 65% TOG and Lachlan Tiziani (FWD, $170,000) who kicked two goals to help him to 54 from 59% TOG. Both played forward. If they’re playing in JLT2, then they could be a chance for round one with the former a 22 year old with the opportunity to take the Devon Smith forward role. Slot him into your side for now! Nick Shipley (MID, $170,000) had some midfield time, but he looks like he could be a little way off.

For those thinking about Rory Lobb (FWD, $467,000) – who didn’t play tonight as he’s still battling his groin injury, the Giants are a big chance to roll with Dawson Simpson (RUC, $420,000) as their main man despite being slaughtered by Grundy in the ruck (29ho to 11).

The Giants were without quite a few starters tonight, including Ryan Griffen who the General put out for the evening. JLT general soreness… hmm!

Taylor Adams (MID, $808,000) was the best for the Pies with 91. He didn’t attend one centre bounce, and while he was all over the ground… running as he pleased, he was predominately off half-back – the same role that got him that DPP for last season. It’ll be interesting to see if he is any chance to be DPP. The way he plays the game, Adams is a great starting pick in Classic with his piggish tendencies… and a definitely first rounder in Draft.

Sneaking forward at times, you can see why Steele Sidebottom (MID, $745,000) is one of four players to have averaged more than a ton in the last four seasons. Safe pick in the third round of Draft.

I’ve been high on Jack Crisp (DEF, $622,000) who averaged 88.3 last year and finished the season well playing the half-back role which was confirmed tonight. 12 kicks, four handballs and 58 points didn’t set the world on fire, but I’m still ok with him being an option down back. Still a huge chance for Crisp to be a top 6 defender.

Josh Thomas (FWD, $439,000) popped up on the radar following his 76 from 73% TOG. Easing back into it last year, he has 10-15 points upside and might be better than some of those other names floating around as mid-priced options up forward. I’ll be watching. 22 disposals with 13 of them contested showed that he was around the ball plenty. Keep an eye on the steak lover.

The Cox-effect will be a worry this year on Brodie Grundy (RUC, $748,000). Freako tells me that Grundy attended 51 ruck contests to Cox’s 14. Grundy scored 65 as the best ruck on the ground (29 hitouts). Mason Cox (RUC/FWD, $418,000) finished with just four hitouts, but kicked 1.2 and took four marks playing mostly forward.

Jaidyn Stephenson (MID/FWD, $260,000) appears in almost 15% of teams. He found the ball 13 times for a score of 38 (80% TOG). He gave away two free kicks and on many occasions he was unlucky… for example, could have had a nice +6 but the ball went out on the full or as he was about to receive a ball, it was chopped off due to a poor disposal. I think he may have a bit of work to cement himself a spot in round one, but he was able to move around the ground nicely and with the FWD injury woes, the Pies would be keen to get him in there.

Tassie lad Brody Mihocek (DEF, $170,000) is a 25yo, 192cm key position defender who played 87% of the game and scored 48. Hopefully he’s in the side next week. Fellow basement priced defender Flynn Appleby (DEF, $170,000) scored 49 and played significant game time as a small defender. Appleby was able to collect 11 touches and take five marks.

Adam Oxley injured his shoulder.

Western Bulldogs v Hawthorn – Mars Stadium, Ballarat

Saturday 3 March – By Sparksy

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This afternoon I sat down on my phone and watched the Dogs vs Hawks game on my huge Samsung screen, and I was much more impressed than the North vs Dees game last week! The Dogs ended up getting on top of the Hawks with a great second half, but the game was well fought and there was a plethora of Fantasy relevance around for coaches!

We’ll start with the winners, and boy did the Doggies look pretty good, moving the ball nicely and attacking from half-back, with a bit of wayward kicking costing them a bigger score.

The highest scorer for them was Josh Dunkley – FWD $517,000 (BE 73) with 104 Fantasy points from 84% TOG, impressive for a bloke who hasn’t been talked about too much in Fantasy aspects. He played mostly up forward, pushing down the ground to the wing every now and then. He did need 3 goals to help him to that score but the man did look very lively. Whilst I probably wouldn’t pick him in Classic, he should be pretty draft relevant and could be one to watch out for.

Also scoring well and pushing up forward for a while were the two stars at the Dogs, Jack Macrae – MID $732,000 (BE 104) and Marcus Bontempelli – MID $706,000 (BE 100), 92 Fantasy points (80% TOG) and 100 Fantasy points (83% TOG) respectively. Bont in particular was impressive for me, especially at one point in the third quarter where he was put in the centre and the Dogs kicked 3 successive goals, all off his clearances. He was dominant throughout the whole game and may be one to look at if he breaks out properly. Macrae was also very solid, especially in the first half, and could be a great chance at Forward DPP throughout the season going by this game. I just can’t bring myself to pick him as a straight Midfielder though, but think about him in your draft leagues.

The one that really impressed me however, especially in the first half was Aaron Naughton – DEF $254,000 (BE 36). Whilst the rookie did only manage 51 from 84% TOG, he looked very solid against a mature Hawthorn forward line and read the play really well. In my opinion he has locked himself in for a Round 1 spot, however they did play Easton Wood forward for the day, so if he moves back that might push Naughton out.

The Dog’s defense really had a field day, with Shane Biggs – DEF $542,000 (BE 77) 100 (79% TOG), Bailey Williams – DEF $437,000 (BE 62) 98 (79% TOG), and Hayden Crozier – FWD $467,000 (BE 66) 78 (86% TOG) all having significant outputs. If these guys can keep this up then they are great value, in particularly Williams, but I just can’t see how all these Doggies’ Defenders can score so well every week. See what the trends are next game, but definitely keep an eye on the Bulldog’s backline.

MID/FWD trio Luke Dahlhaus – MID/FWD $624,000 (BE 89) 51 (73% TOG), Toby McLean – MID/FWD $603,000 (BE 86) 64 (87% TOG), and Lin Jong – MID/FWD $505,000 (BE 72) 21 (52% TOG) were all insanely disappointing and I wouldn’t touch the first and last one with a 50-foot pole. McLean is an interesting one, with a lot of people keen on the 2017 breakout player. With only the eye-test to go by, McLean played completely in the midfield and just went missing, especially in the first half, coming in at half-time with around 20 points to his name. That gives him a roughly 40 point second half, which showed that he could definitely still score well, however I just wasn’t all that impressed by what he showed me. Another one to stay away from is Jason Johannisen – DEF $535,000 (BE 76), who had 73 points from 82% TOG. Whilst the score doesn’t seem too bad, he played the first half in the Forward pocket and did sweet bugger all. He then got moved down the ground for the second half and the Hawks let him run free to rack up a few cheap disposals. I’d want MUCH more consistency with his role before I picked him up as a mid-pricer.

Lastly, Mitch Honeychurch – FWD $462,000 (BE 66) really impressed me in today’s game but he is certainly no best-22 lock for the Dogs. He had 77 from 79% TOG playing off half-forward and really getting amongst it. He did have 2 goals but I’d say you can expect at least one sausage roll from him every time he takes the field. He’s one that always seems to find a spot in my team at some stage every year, hopefully this is a year he gets a game.

For the Hawks there is obviously one name that stands out above all else. The love of my life, Tom Mitchell – MID $896,000 (BE 127) was absolutely insane as is the usual for him, managing a measly 111 from 83% TOG, a laughable pre-season score from the pig. He had 30 disposals and was all around the ground, plus he even got some attention from a couple of Dogs midfielders at some point. Can’t wait to see what he can manage in the season when he actually tries.

The other popular Hawks midfielder, Jaeger O’Meara – MID $438,000 (BE 62) was a bit disappointing after an insane intraclub match, managing just 16 disposals and finishing with 61 points from 85% TOG. He did look good when he got it and had some beautiful crumbs, but he just couldn’t get enough of the pill and definitely has me worried about his scoring output. 100% a case of #StayStrongJLT but I’d be watching carefully next week.

James Sicily – DEF/FWD $523,000 (BE 74) is becoming an ever more popular option in people’s teams and he had an extremely interesting day. Sicily spent the first half of the game being “tagged” by Easton Wood, who absolutely towelled him up in the first quarter, keeping him to just 12 points, before Sic turned the tables on him in the second and managed a cool 35 Fantasy points. The third quarter then saw Sicily get 4 separate opponents and struggle to find his way into the game, with only 15 points in the third, but then the Dogs went back to putting Easton Wood on him and Sicily managed a 20 point quarter, ending with 82 Fantasy points from 84% TOG. I think Sicily is a pretty safe option, especially if he can cop that much attention and still manage an 80 in JLT. One more thing to note is that Easton Wood managed just 1 touch in the first half whilst tagging Sicily, and that came with 2 minutes left to go in the second quarter, which doesn’t seem like a very efficient way to tag somebody.

People who keep telling me Ryan Burton – DEF $594,000 (BE 84) is a better option than Sicily are just outright wrong after Burton managed an insane 37 from 85% TOG. I shouldn’t have to tell you but stay away from picking him if you want to do well this season.

Much more draft relevant, but forward duo Jarryd Roughead – FWD $593,000 (BE 84) and Luke Breust – FWD $501,000 (BE 71) really impressed me with 11 shots on goal between them and managing 76 (82% TOG) and 81 (74% TOG) respectively. I don’t see them having this sort of impact all the time, but they were everywhere, moving really well and just dominating the loose Dogs backline. Definitely ones to consider late in draft, particularly Breust who looked extremely impressive to me.

Lastly, rookie options Oliver Hanrahan – FWD $170,000 (BE 24) and David Mirra – DEF $170,000 (BE 24) had a pretty mixed day. Hanrahan started the game and had a great first half, with 25 at half-time and looking very lively, before managing just a 5-point second half and ending on 30 points from 73% TOG and probably not getting a game. Mirra played only the last quarter and looked solid in defence, managing 11 points from 23% TOG however the fact he only played a quarter worried me in terms of job security. Neither really looked like they were best 22 unfortunately.

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Brisbane Lions v Sydney Swans – Moreton Bay

Saturday 3 March – By Warnie

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It is a bit hard to take too much out of the game from a Lions’ point of view, not only because they were outclassed by the Swans, but they were missing some of the most important personnel from their squad. Notably, midfielders Dayne Beams and Dayne Zorko were missing as well as boom recruit Luke Hodge.

First up, Stefan Martin (RUC, $703,000) showed us what we already know… that is, he is up there as one of the best premium ruckmen in Fantasy when he’s doing the job by himself. No Archie Smith (plus Oscar McInerney named emergency) let Big Stef run around and do as he pleased, racking up 21 disposals around the ground to go with his 26 hitouts. No marks, which is uncharacteristic, but he still managed a score of 90 (75% TOG); the most for all of the Lions.

I was very keen to watch Allen Christensen (FWD, $331,000). He’s been in my side pretty much since the game opened and he did enough to keep his spot. Three tackles to go with his 16 disposals helped him to a score of 62 in 69% TOG. An early goal had me happy – and he wasn’t taking a backward step in contests. As Tbetta tweeted in his game review emoji’s, he definitely ticked boxes today.

Other than Stef and Bundy, it was a dour affair when it came to the scoring, however, the Brisbane lads rotated heavily with only a handful playing more than 80% of the game. This wouldn’t have been luck, it is another reason why we can’t take a heap out of this for the Lions.

Alex Witherden (DEF, $604,000) had a dog of a day. 38 from 83% TOG… which included 7 clangers – didn’t the commentators tell him about it. I know a lot are keen after his nine impressive games at the end of last season, but I’ll be staying away (I’ve got him at 23 in my defender draft rankings). We will need to see how things go next week as this game was a write off. Hopefully we see Hodgey line up with him when they take on the Gold Coast next Sunday at Broadbeach.

Other players of note included Rhys Mathieson (MID/FWD, $506,000) who enjoyed some extra midfield clock. He racked up 16 disposals and four tackles for 65 in his 69% game time. Lewis Taylor (FWD, $547,000) was busy racking up 18 touches, mostly on the wing, and Tom Bell (FWD, $428,000) used his physique to help him go at a point per minute in the midfield.

Mitch Robinson (MID/FWD, $542,000) appears in 11.45% of teams but his return this evening was far from exciting. The Lions got smashed in the middle, and Robinson found the ball just nine times for his 41 points.

Keep an eye on Jack Payne (DEF, $170,000) who played 71% for 45 points playing in defence. He did only average 34 in the NEAFL and just 45 per 120mins at the U18 Champs.

Oh – and Cam Rayner (MID/FWD, $270,000)… we will do a bit better with our money up forward with rookies. He’s not going to be in the thick of it, with a chance to rest or even spend some time in the NEAFL from all reports. The number one draft pick played 61% of the game for just five touches and 18 points.

For the Swans, Lance Franklin ($677,000) was dominant kicking four snags. 86 points from the 84% of the game he played should keep anyone happy to start with Buddy happy. Same goes for the midfielders like Josh Kennedy (MID, $690,000), who top scored for the day with 96, and Luke Parker (MID, $693,000) who are both at least 10 points under-priced based on their best. We can’t take too much out of their performances due to the opposition and how they won their ball, but it was nice to see them run around there as they were.

When Jarrad McVeigh is out, there is never any doubt that Jake Lloyd (DEF, $649,000) will rack up. He was in the backline, peeling off getting plenty of mark kicks (nine marks and 20 kicks to his name). 93 from 88% was exactly what we wanted to see. He’s a no-brainer if McVeigh is likely to miss the start of the season, however, he could still be an option if he’s able to play the role that he had such success with last year. Dane Rampe (DEF, $470,000) was enjoying himself, aslo taking nine marks to help himself to 92 (just 66% TOG).

Callum Mills (DEF, $488,000) was playing off half-back and running up the field for 65 from 59%. Fellow young gun Isaac Heeney (MID/FWD, $649,000) played mostly in the middle for 55 (64%). With so many rotations, I am hanging out for the JLT game to make any judgement on these two – especially whether I start with Heeney. He is the most popular premium FWD option, appearing in more than 40% of teams.

Of any cash cow significance, Riley Stoddart (DEF, $170,000) is unlikely to play – even if the Swans have blooded a lot of kids in the last couple of years. He scored 53 thanks to 12 touches and six marks. Junior numbers were low. You could possibly call Robbie Fox (MID, $284,000) a cash cow / rookie priced option. He played three games last year – scores of 37, 69 and 47 – and had a good day playing through the midfield today with plenty of minutes. He racked up 24 disposals and took six marks for his 87. Keep an eye on him if he can make the 22. Could be worth paying the dollars for him.

An ankle injury to Callum Sinclair had Fantasy coaches on Twitter excited about Darcy Cameron (RUC, $170,000) and his stocks. He was a late inclusion for Sam Naismith and while he played mostly up forward, rather than in the ruck, he had seven disposals and three marks – which included a couple of shots at goal. Cameron is still one of the better options for your ruck bench. Throw away that key for R3… as I don’t think we’re going to find anyone better for that position.

Gold Coast v Geelong – Townsville

Sunday 4 March – By Calvin

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If you don’t have Tim Kelly (MID, $224,000) in your team then you need to go and do it now, just like the 24% of coaches who currently have him.

The mature-aged recruit who came runner-up in the Sandover Medal last year was busy from the word go with 6 touches in the first term for 26pts.

He only went on to score 48 (61% TOG) and although he won’t be in the thick of things as much when Dangerfield, Ablett and Selwood play, he looked very good early on attending a game-high 15 centre bounces. He was iced-up in the last quarter though with a slight thigh strain but it was probably more precautionary than anything too serious.

Geelong also blooded some other kids who also started well. Lachie Fogerty (MID, $228,000), Charlie Constable (MID, $200,000) and Gryan Miers (FWD, $170,000) all put on the hoops for the first time and although most of these guys are a fair bit off Geelong’s best-22, they found a bit of the ball early with Constable scoring 23pts in the first quarter and finished with 63, and Miers ended the day with 45 from a full game. Fogerty laid 10 tackles a game last year for the Western Jets and only managed 4 today for his solid score of 63.

Mitch Duncan (MID, $793,000) was awesome early with a game high 40pts in the first quarter from 10 touches. He only has 1.4% ownership and let’s not forget he averaged 112.5 last year with scores of 110, 160 and 131 in the AFL Finals Series, scores that don’t contribute to his price/average this year. Duncan finished the day with 72 from only 61% time on ground.

Sam Menegola (FWD/MID, $719,000) enjoyed his time without the stars playing for his 76 which happened to be the second-best score for the Cats behind defender Zach Thuoy.

He’s not relevant in any Fantasy format, but Mark Blicavs (MID, $549,000) had a rotter of a game with just 29 from basically a full game. #dodgeball

As for the victors, Gold Coast were also missing a few stars in Barlow and Swallow.

Will Brodie (MID, $356,000) knocked out a solid 61 whilst former Port Adelaide player, Aaron Young (FWD, $387,000) had his first run for his new club. He arrived at the club with an average of 55, 20pts under what he has achieved before. 4.5% of coaches are rolling with the mid-priced option at the moment and after today, they might want to cross him off the team sheet after his 49.

Warnie is currently rocking with Pearce Hanley (DEF, $509,000) but he didn’t look great out there and butchered the ball several times. He racked up 16 disposals for his 61. You should be giving him another chance in the next JLT before you make any big calls.

After playing just 4 games last year, it was pleasing to see the veteran Michael Rischitelli (MID, $428,000) running around. He averaged 52.5 last year and in the years before that he has averaged 74, 95 and 73. Durability is his concern but that fact he is running around in the JLT and potentially 20pts under what he can do… he’s one to give a half thought too after his 85% game time for his 46pts. Not a great score, but the fact he played is enough at this stage.

An interesting one is Darcy MacPherson (FWD, $389,000). Considering his forward status and the fact he’s only $50K more than Allen Christensen, he was great in his 51% TOG for 65pts from his 15 touches. He averaged 124 (pig-like numbers) in the NEAFL last year from 13 games.

Aaron Hall (MID, $690,000) was pretty sharp with a game-high 91 from only 66% game time. On the back of Ablett’s departure, he is set for a huge year if anyone is gutsy enough to take the gamble.

For the rookies, Nick Holman (MID, $170,000) was the shining light with 80pts. He nailed 8 tackles in that and is 22 years of age. He’s fresh from the SANFL where he averaged 26 touches over the last two years. He has shot up the watch-list of many eager Fantasy coaches and I expect his 1.8% ownership to sky-rocket.

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133 Comments

133 Comments

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    Bandicoot

    February 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    We finally got a rookie defender to stand up. Based on tonight, Coffield should be everyone’s D5. Dow scored OK but he looks so skinny. Not sure how long he will last.

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    Gazzza

    February 28, 2018 at 11:36 pm

    Does anyone else think fisher could be an option in the forward line ?

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      Smart Footy

      February 28, 2018 at 11:58 pm

      Attended 11 centre bounces and was said to be one of the most impressive young players in Carlton’s preseason report, I’ve been looking at him over the preseason this game brought up my interest again

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      Jeremy Hart

      March 1, 2018 at 2:41 am

      I like McKay better at the moment, rookie priced and he looks impressive. Seriously beefed up in the offseason.

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    Jeremy Hart

    March 1, 2018 at 2:42 am

    I was doing well until now… I can feel myself getting sucked in by Marchbank… Half hope he puts out a putrid score in their next game

    • Fooz

      Fooz

      March 1, 2018 at 11:42 am

      +1 – Had him for a lot of last year as a rookie. Just can’t see him getting another 15-20 points on top of is 69 Average from last year…

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    Baron

    March 1, 2018 at 6:35 am

    I am stumpted this year so I am doing this so far.
    DEF Mids 3 Rookies 3
    MID Premo 4 Mids 2 Rookies 2
    Ruck Premo 2
    FWD Mids 5 Rookie 1
    My plan is to upgrade the MIDs rookies asap to Premo with 650k in the bank, I feel like I need to watch the Def and Fws for a few rounds to ride the usual slow wave before locking them in.

    From this game I have March, Coff and Arm in my team.

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      Dovaas

      March 5, 2018 at 9:59 am

      Thats a lot of MIDpriced risk based on even a good year has no more than 70% strike rate with them but can be no worse than most. I would still have a set and forget premo in FWD and DEF though

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    tbd

    March 1, 2018 at 7:51 am

    Is anybody else considering Shane Savage at all? Averaged 91.6 in the last 8 games of last year. Played a good role last night and had 82. Definitely a draft slider at the least

    • Euman

      Euman

      March 1, 2018 at 9:35 am

      like him but its a no from me

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      andyjh

      March 1, 2018 at 10:09 am

      I had him last year but I’m not considering him this year

    • Fooz

      Fooz

      March 1, 2018 at 11:44 am

      Had savage as a rookie in my FootyTips fantasy comp when that was running a long time ago. Savage has too much variation in scores to be trusted as a consistent DEF.

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      Jeremy Hart

      March 1, 2018 at 1:32 pm

      Yeah I like Savage. Not starting with him, but will be watching his role over the first few weeks along with Webster/Roberton.

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    Euman

    March 1, 2018 at 9:39 am

    Ok so what about Ciaran Byrne $350k, i know he only scored 50 from 81% game time (shorter games too though)

    I did not watch the game but saw comments from blokes on the DT stats site saying they felt that Byrne had Docs role which is what i thought is what would happen given his elite disposals.

    I know Marchbank carved it up but as said i saw the comments about Byrne regardless, and he is 150k cheaper. i dont think he will go 90 but hopefully good for 75

    Anyone watch? thoughts?

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      Matt

      March 1, 2018 at 11:02 am

      350k to chase a 75 is pretty reckless, bit like going Zak Jones last year, had some good and made the cash, but you’re better off making the cash and points elsewhere.

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      Roger

      March 1, 2018 at 12:20 pm

      I had him in my side before the game, took him out after the game. i wasn’t a fan

      • Euman

        Euman

        March 2, 2018 at 1:31 pm

        super coach article said he was playing in docs roll and looked to be finding his feet

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          Billy

          March 2, 2018 at 1:51 pm

          He may have been playing “Doc’s role”, but the game plan used on Thursday was far more direct than anything the Blues did at all last year and if they play that way during the season, there won’t be anything close to the amount of point there was for their DEF last year.

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    Guy Incognito

    March 1, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Don’t know the answer to his role – Carlton are planning on playing more attacking and won’t be able to fill that role with 1 person. Will be by committee… Means theres some extra points for grabs but between injuries and a lack of games don’t have a heap of confidence in Byrne.

    350k prices him around a 50 average. If you think he can go consistently 75 then that’s worth it? Also need to consider space/ structure in the backs? I guess if he stinks can more than likely go down to a rookie and he won’t have lost much

    • Euman

      Euman

      March 1, 2018 at 10:39 am

      CHEERS AND GOOD ADVICE, may start him and as you say if stinks it up then just swap to rookie coming through having him at D4 allows me JOM and Coffiled and still $77k to play with

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    Kirk Mackintosh

    March 1, 2018 at 10:08 am

    What were peoples thoughts on Dunstan? I am thinking of keeping him in my draft

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      Alan J

      March 1, 2018 at 10:25 am

      I think there’s about 6 Saints who have potential this year..

      Seb Ross is a gun (105+), Steven could become a gun again (100+), but you could throw a blanket over Steele, Newnes, Dunstan, Acres, Stevens, Armitage and even Roberton in DEF and expect any of them to go between 70-95..

      That being said, Dunstan is probably the most likely to take that leap into the 100s, and Steele if he can get double digit tackles per game.

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      Kanye

      March 1, 2018 at 12:22 pm

      He’s getting some of those piggish qualities, want to see a bit more of him before I jump on though

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    DBoms

    March 1, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Thoughts on Armitage?

    I thought he looked real good last night. I wouldn’t pick him over O’Meara, but is it too midpriced mayhem to have them both?

    I’ve currently got P Cripps M5 and O’Meara M6, so if I went Cripps down to Armo that would give me an extra 240k to splash out on an extra premo forward or back.

    Or is that too risky?

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      Alan J

      March 1, 2018 at 10:20 am

      I can’t see Armitage outscoring his priced average..

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        Billy

        March 1, 2018 at 10:36 am

        He is priced at mid 60s and prior to his injury he had 5 straight years of 85+

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          Alan J

          March 1, 2018 at 10:58 am

          I just can’t see him getting much over the 70 ave from last year.. Maybe he gets to 75, but with the emergence of others (Ross, Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Steele) I can’t see him getting back to the scoring output he had prior to last year…

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            Billy

            March 1, 2018 at 11:23 am

            He scored 60 from 3 qtrs in R1 last year and then 80 off 80 minutes in with limited time due to returning from injury

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            Alan J

            March 1, 2018 at 12:07 pm

            Well done to him then.. Sounds like he’s a lock for you, congratulations..

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            Billy

            March 1, 2018 at 12:29 pm

            Merely pointing out you don’t have much to back up your claims

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            Alan J

            March 1, 2018 at 2:11 pm

            From 2015 to 2016 his averaged dropped by over 20 points per game and he played 22 games..

            For me, that’s enough of a dip, coupled with coming off injury, adding in extra players taking some touches and I see his stats dropping..

            How hard is this to understand? I see him as a 70-75 player, you (and many others) see him as a 85+ player..

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        Colby

        March 1, 2018 at 12:27 pm

        You cant see Armitage outscoring his priced average? Re-read you post 2 spots up where you reckon he will be up at 70-95……glad you have a stupid pick as an emijol so I dont have to read any more of your bullshit!

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          Alan J

          March 1, 2018 at 12:40 pm

          Holy shit you are thick..

          “I just can’t see him getting much over the 70 ave from last year.. Maybe he gets to 75”

          70-75 being a number that lies within 70-95

          Also, I listed 7 players that could go between 70-95 (not including Ross & Steven), you’re a moron if you think that ALL will go up to 95..

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            DBoms

            March 1, 2018 at 1:33 pm

            Definitely disagreeing with you there Alan, I expect Armitage to go around a 90 average, give or take a couple.
            I think people have easily forgotten how good he was a few years ago. He won’t be that good again, but barring injury he should be very good. I can see him being their second best mid behind Ross (Steven is tagged out of the game too easily).

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      andyjh

      March 1, 2018 at 10:26 am

      I think Armo is a lock in RDT, not so much in fantasy. I’m not taking any mid priced mids in Fantasy this year but if i was Armo would be the guy.

      • Euman

        Euman

        March 1, 2018 at 12:22 pm

        i am wary in the limited trade games to take ex injured players

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      Roger

      March 1, 2018 at 10:43 am

      I’ve got him as a lock in sc but Fantasy he’s too mid pricey for me

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      Roger

      March 1, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      IMO he will average 80+, he’s worth the risk if he fits your structure

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    Kingzy

    March 1, 2018 at 11:35 am

    Coffield looks the goods.
    So does Dow

    So reaction trades:
    Hanley – Coffield at D5
    Dow enters the MID M8,

    Lycett to Nank

    • Euman

      Euman

      March 1, 2018 at 12:23 pm

      nice,

      i went Crisp to Byrne
      Oshea to Coffield
      Warpol to Omera

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    On Fyfe Support

    March 1, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    thoughts on simpson

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      Jeremy Hart

      March 1, 2018 at 1:36 pm

      Looked good, racked up early then tailed off. Think he’ll be fine for 95-100 av though.

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    Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

    March 1, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Gotta remember, Geary played a lot less time last night, WIth him off the ground, Coffield scored 30 out of his 70 points. Just a stat to think about.

    Think his scoring was influenced by a major defender not being on.

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    Rookie

    March 1, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Are the JLT quarters shorter than a normal game?

    • Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

      Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

      March 1, 2018 at 8:53 pm

      Yes, 20 min quarters instead of 30 mins

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      Guy Incognito

      March 1, 2018 at 9:23 pm

      From google: “In each club’s first match, quarter lengths will be 20 minutes — but with no time-on for the first 15 minutes of each term. In each club’s second match, normal time rules will apply.”

      • Warnie

        Warnie

        March 2, 2018 at 6:29 am

        Games are approx 100 mins rather than around the 120 mins we see in the H&A season. Multiply scores by 1.2 for a more true reflection, but his is redundant because, for many, time on ground will differ for JLT to regular season.

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    The Walrus

    March 1, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    HEY WARNIE, YOUR DRAFT RANKINGS ARTICLE THAT YOU TWEETED ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON IN FACT HAS THE TABLES FOR 2017. THE RUCK TABLE GIVES REALLY GOOD RANKINGS TO MUMFORD & TIPPETT.

    • Warnie

      Warnie

      March 1, 2018 at 6:43 pm

      Did you click the link? They go to the 2018 rankings. Completely different URL. Click menu at the top.

    • FevsBingles

      FevsBingles

      March 1, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      WHY ARE YOU YEL… sorry, why are you yelling?

  15. Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

    Another Arctic Flying wombat Panda of Doom named Drowning fish

    March 1, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Pies are shot,

    They need to get some stability

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    Premiers

    March 1, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    How much time on ground did crisp have?

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    Gazzza

    March 2, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Mitch Duncan and Ciaran Byrne
    Or
    Fyfe and brayshaw

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    Baron

    March 2, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    If GWS can start walking through teams this year I am loading up!
    I will get Snap, Crackle and Pop in my Mids.
    Coniglio and Shiel now and work up to Kelly hoping Snap and Crackle will steal a few points at the start and reduce his price to 750

    I didn’t mind seeing Maynard in the guts and off half back, Mid priced mayhem for me this year!

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      Sunnyjim

      March 2, 2018 at 7:23 pm

      Yeah I’m liking Maynard as well to break out and average 90 in that role, will be waiting to see where he fits in when treloar returns but yeah currently in my team

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    knickers

    March 2, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    At the moment I have Parker in my team over Coniglio…thoughts on these 2 if igloo will score way higher than Parker, I’ll put him in…If it’s a close run race I’ll back Parker in. What do you guys think?

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      dave

      March 3, 2018 at 9:18 pm

      who would you rather have in your team at years end? Parker me thinks

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      Guy Incognito

      March 3, 2018 at 9:29 pm

      Parker – because history says Cogs will miss a few along the way.

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    Riotchess

    March 3, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    Hey Gang i run a keeper league on ultimate footy and were looking for a coach to takeover last years 3rd placed team, duties include delisting players into the draft pool, selecting your keepers, drafting new blood next monday night and the ability to trade post draft before the new season starts.
    Some of the better players are…
    Tadams, GAJ, Grundy, Gaff, JPK, Wines, Ward,
    Hurley, Heater, Howe, Sicily, Burgoyne, Roughy,
    Redden, Houli, Scooter, McVeigh, Mitch Robinson
    You can delist or keep as many players as you want, the delisted go into the draft pool with the new rookies ready for a snake draft.
    Any interest welcome
    Cheers

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      Brad

      March 3, 2018 at 11:24 pm

      I’ve never been in a keeper league but I’m keen to give it a go

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        Riotchess

        March 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm

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        Riotchess

        March 4, 2018 at 4:10 pm

        let me know if ya have any hassles with the link, once you are in il link you to the facebook messenger group where we discuss everything related to the league like trades and ideas ;)

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          Brad

          March 4, 2018 at 11:11 pm

          Cheers bud, I’ve signed up so you should see me in there now. I’ll try and figure out my way around the page during the week :)

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            Riotchess

            March 5, 2018 at 8:33 am

            Ripper yep i cant email you but il try post up a link on the league message board to add you to the group, someone will always be available to help with any queries you have and we can get you ready to roll 8)

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            Riotchess

            March 5, 2018 at 8:40 am

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            Riotchess

            March 5, 2018 at 8:48 am

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            Brad

            March 5, 2018 at 1:54 pm

            Hopefully there is only 1 Riotchess on FB :P

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    Jacko

    March 3, 2018 at 3:16 pm

    What is everyones thoughts on Fwd Rookies. I feel like the general consensus Rayner and Stephenson but who else is in the picture?

    – Fritsch
    – Ahern
    – Ryan
    – Venables

    Who else or out of those above who are you going with?

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      everard

      March 3, 2018 at 6:28 pm

      Fritsch is number one forward rook and should be f6.

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      Ned kelly

      March 3, 2018 at 6:30 pm

      Florent

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        Squid

        March 4, 2018 at 7:31 pm

        Technically not a rookie at $272k but excellent option, especially if you were thinking of going rayner

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    Baron

    March 3, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    My tactic of waiting for Mitchell to drop in price and trade him in after R3 seems to be flawed.
    Omeara looks slow – He can go play Baseball because You’re outta here!

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    SB

    March 3, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    Hi DT Talk Contributors,

    Would it be possible for someone to put up a file for what all the emojis mean when you are tweeting you JLT Match thoughts?
    I can piece some together, but not all.

    Much appreciated!
    SB

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      SB's friend

      March 3, 2018 at 7:41 pm

      which ones do you need help with mate?

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        Matt

        March 3, 2018 at 9:34 pm

        22 has be pretty stumped as far as frequently used ones go.

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          Matt's Mate

          March 3, 2018 at 9:40 pm

          refers to best 22, as in Stoddard is not in the best 22

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    Fooz

    March 3, 2018 at 6:53 pm

    Red bull Robbo didn’t do enough. He’s outa my team.

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      Screech

      March 5, 2018 at 6:29 am

      don’t be fooled. he copped a massive corky but apparantly will be fine to play gc on thursday…

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    Will

    March 3, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    O’Meara looks a shadow of his former self. In fact, I see him going the way of Jack Trengove and just disappearing eventually. Think his body is completely shot and un-repairable.

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      Will

      March 3, 2018 at 9:28 pm

      Looked soooooooo slow.

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      Billy

      March 3, 2018 at 9:33 pm

      Had a 33 possies, 7 mark, 6 clearances, 1 Goal BOG performance in the Hawks intraclub a couple weeks ago.

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        Will

        March 3, 2018 at 9:37 pm

        The day I take anything from an Intraclub match is the day I may as well just quit fantasy.
        Pretty sure Mason Cox kicked a bag in a recent Intraclub match. Better put money on him for the Coleman.

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          Billy

          March 3, 2018 at 9:41 pm

          You just said he was a shadow of his former self with a completely shot unrepairable body and is slow. Merely pointing out that is in fact, incorrect.

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            Will

            March 4, 2018 at 7:58 pm

            How is it incorrect simply based on a intraclub match ?
            How’d last year work out after performing well in intraclub matches early then too ?
            He really went on to prove those doubting his body wrong didn’t he ?

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            Billy

            March 4, 2018 at 8:58 pm

            Because he has shown he still has what he had 3-4 years ago. While he hasn’t shown it consistently, there have been glimpses) R23 last year and the intra-club) that show he most definitely is not completely shot and unrepairable.

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          David C

          March 5, 2018 at 8:35 am

          And you’re taking things from a JLT match. Not much better than an intraclub hitout.

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    Brown

    March 4, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    McDonald or Lloyd?

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    King Fisha

    March 4, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Need help. How do you see advanced stats of time on ground in the JLT matches? I ususally use my phone to veiw it. (Just saying incase the option or whatever isn’t shown on your phone) plz n thankyou

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      Kambo

      March 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm

      Phone wont show advanced stats, need to get on the afl match centre from the home page on a web browser

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    Baron

    March 4, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    Is the black guy in the midfield a bench option, I need a real option. Him being black doesn’t help. Holman is his name. GC
    I don’t mind Sexton on D4/5, anyone who can earn me 100k gets a spot.

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      Alex

      March 4, 2018 at 7:15 pm

      You kidding me mate?? What a ridiculous comment…

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      DonkeyKong

      March 4, 2018 at 7:43 pm

      That’s just racist

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      andyjh

      March 4, 2018 at 8:01 pm

      Hahaha that’s GOLD!!! :)

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      Ned kelly

      March 4, 2018 at 8:02 pm

      Ya dont have to b a turtle, to pull ya head in baron

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      Swannies

      March 4, 2018 at 8:06 pm

      I think he’s saying that only because in fantasy, he doesn’t have a picture so he’s literally just a black outline…

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        Will

        March 4, 2018 at 8:10 pm

        He is referring to the fact on the fantasy site he is black ….. for any player without a profile picture on fantasy …..
        Lighten up people.
        Let’s not make this political madness gone wrong here as well. Enough of it in society.
        I mean France banning wolf whistling ……
        The do gooders are killing this world.

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          Hawk

          March 4, 2018 at 8:42 pm

          Im a transexual will and the do gooders are helping people like me

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            andyjh

            March 4, 2018 at 9:30 pm

            Hawk sometimes I think you are a dead set flog mate but fark you give me a good laugh!!!

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    Will

    March 4, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    Just curious Calvin as to why Holman would need to wait to be upgraded to play ?

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    Will

    March 4, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Is Holman not a category A rookie ?

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    Will

    March 4, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    The AFL will allow category A listed rookies to be available for senior selection much like players on the senior list, Triple M’s Jay Clark wrote in the Herald Sun.

    Previously, category A rookies could only play when elevated to the senior list, either via a senior-listed player being placed on the long-term injury list or as a nominated rookie.

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    Matt

    March 4, 2018 at 8:07 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but rookies now don’t need to be upgraded they can just play now right?

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      Will

      March 4, 2018 at 8:11 pm

      99% sure that’s how it is now.
      Only the category B listed ones like Irish/American etc imports on special rookie contracts can not be selected.

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    Warnie

    March 4, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    I’ve let Calvin know about the new rule.

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      Will

      March 5, 2018 at 12:12 am

      Lucky Redden isn’t a category B rookie hey Warnie ?

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    Jack

    March 4, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    Did anyone catch the Dogs v Hawks game and can comment on Bailey Williams? 98 in def is a great score and he is cheaper than most of the other talked about mid pricers.

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    Jimbo

    March 4, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Hey cal can you confirm (or deny) whether there has been a change to afl rookie listed player rules that category a rookies can now play afl games without being upgraded to the senior list when an afl listed player is injured. I thought I read this somewhere but cannot find a reference. Would be particularly helpful for Holman Cheers

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      Dovaas

      March 5, 2018 at 10:05 am

      Yes. All category A players can play

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    Jimbos

    March 4, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Sorry lads I was reading an earlier version of the blog. Looks like it has been sorted. Nice work……

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    Andy

    March 5, 2018 at 12:06 am

    Armitage or Libera for a mid-priced mid?

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    MGPT

    March 5, 2018 at 12:47 am

    Hey guys I was thinking of getting Bachar Houli in but worried he might suicide bomb the MCG. The other option is Burgoyne but… you know…

    Can anyone help me? Baron??

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      Really?

      March 5, 2018 at 8:03 am

      Aren’t you a clever one. Think of that all by yourself?

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      TimorSaint

      March 5, 2018 at 9:17 am

      your comment is a criminal offence on two counts … id take down quick smart my friend !

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    The Chosen Won

    March 5, 2018 at 8:40 am

    With only 17 days until lockout were is everyone.?

    Last year: 154,547

    This year so far only 69,341 players.

    The AFL would need around 5,000 players per day to sign up until lockout to get close to last years numbers, I guess the AFL better get spamming social Media.

    Good Luck™®©

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      Dovaas

      March 5, 2018 at 10:02 am

      There will be a last week flood of enteries like usual although seems behind some

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      lizard-of-oz

      March 5, 2018 at 10:40 am

      Every year a lot of people put in more than one team.
      By rd 23 there probably are a lot less than 100k live teams.

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    Baron

    March 5, 2018 at 10:30 am

    I think it is a little slow this year too, even DT talk has gone missing.

    These lads have dropped the ball and focused on the AFL website side, that spot is still up for grabs too! If these fools had any brains they would push the afl with stats on the marketing side to fantasy and get fulltime jobs for it, you could apply for Govt funding and stop slaving to the man. If the Fox Footy had any class they would create a fantasy football show that would rival any footy show ect, the people watching are the ones invested in fantasy sports ect but they still cater for the old school lets go pay and sit in a seat people, it is 2018 my TV is huge and I can yell all I want in my lounge room. Someone is missing a massive market and all you need is a little funding and support to the people with brains…don’t give it to football people they are clueless and stupid, they are tools to be used for marketing and guest appearances.

    It is harder to become a media expert than an AFL expert. Pretty girls with brains are required to bring in the boys to look at and to keep the girls interested in this new left lean they are on.

    I have three business plans for other markets I am working on, however, I will look into a fourth since I am setting up my FFL personal website, the AFL draft won’t let me set my rules so I have to go elsewhere, there is no elsewhere so I will create my own page for my draft league. IT is very easy and low cost, if you get others to create content and stats like these lads it should be a nothing exercise cutting and pasting…bloody Calvin could do it. (I like your preseason form Cal! this is your year to command more screen time…tell them to let you speak!)

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