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Trigger Happy – Grand Final Edition
It’s grand final week! For a change, JimBob looks at each match in isolation to see if we can pick a player who may have ulterior motives (good or bad) going into their game.
Well here we are at the final round of AFL Fantasy for 2013. It has been quite the experience, with many highs and lows along the way. As Dunny mentioned this morning in the Scramble, we are generally in unprecedented territory with 2 trades left in the last round of DT. This time last year, my strategy was to simply just hang on and prey that all my players didnât get rested!
This year with 2 trades in the last round, itâs almost a little luxurious as shown by the most popular traded player out this week â JJK. From all reports, he isnât injured, heâs just $hit at the moment and we can all afford to move him on.
Match Analysis
Overall, team selections have been pretty kind to us this week. Apart from our mate Ross giving a couple of PODâs in Mundy and Fyfe a rest, there hasnât been too many omissions of note. So instead of analysing each line, Iâm gonna analyse each match and see if there is any rabbits I can pull out of the hat.
Sydney vs Hawthorn
The context â Sheep stations are definitely on the line in this match. Hawthorn need a win to maintain top spot and Sydney need this win to convince us they are genuine contenders this year after a lack-lustre month of football. We have a live game here.
Players of note:
Jordan Lewis ($433,200) is back in after being a late withdrawal last weekend. Has a decent record against Sydney so I would play him with confidence. Ryan OâKeefe ($396,000) is in terrible form at the moment, but is a big game player. Had 142 on the Hawks in rd 22 last year, so may turn up. Luke Hodge ($454,000) has the highest projected score of any hawk, mainly due to his 120 earlier in the year. Named in the centre square and another big game player. I wouldnât go there personally.
St Kilda vs Freo
The context â Ross the boss reckons he can knock off his old side with the B team â thatâs how much he rates Kosi and Blake. Freo need to win to have any chance to make 2nd and next to no chance of slipping to 4th. Will have plenty of kids trying to impress to keep their spot for finals. St Kilda will be trying to get a win for Kosi and Blake so this could be an interesting game.
Players of note â Joey Montagna ($506,000) is a popular in this week after a couple of months of stellar form. Had 117 on them at Patersonâs last time, but likely to get the Crowley tag first up. Always has me worried. Pavlich ($383,500) has been in good form since returning from injury and a popular in this week with little competition from St Kildaâs back line.
Geelong vs Brisbane
The context â Geelong need to win to make sure they keep 2nd spot and a home final (wherever that will be) and you donât want to flirt with winning form. Brisbane have a hail Mary chance at finals, but at Simonds Stadium, not too many give them a sniff. A live game for at least a half.
Players of note:
Paul Chapman ($437,000) had about a half of a game last week and you would think they would want to give him a full game this week coming into finals. If he does get the green vest, heâll likely get it for the whole finals series. Should be pretty fresh and proved last week he can still rack up points but a bit pricey for me (as opposed to the risk). Geelong players in general love Simonds stadium so getting in any of Selwood, Enright or Stokes, is never a bad idea. There is no one from the lions that I would recommend bringing in (only if you donât have Rockliff)
Port Adelaide vs Carlton
The context â this is where the race for 9th starts. Port want to keep winning and Carlton need to win to ensure they make the finals. If Carlton wins here, the race for 9th is virtually over and other games become fizzers. If they donât, then itâs game on.
Players of note
For Carlton, Kreuzer comes back in, but may be under done after a few weeks out. I think itâs time for Carlton Skipper Marc Murphy ($353,000) to have a big game if they are any chance to win here, but probably first in line to get a Kornes tag. Matthew Lobbe ($466,000) is on fire of late and only in 1.4% of teams! Comes with a price tag but. Travis Boak is usually very quiet against the blue baggers, but probably gets Carrots each time. Will still get a tag, but Iâm backing him to break it and pump out a big score and Port to continue their fairytale season.
West Coast vs Adelaide
The context – Could be a dead rubber, could be a live game if Port smashes Carlton (The first time ever the Crows are going for the Power). I donât think the eagles have too much interest in winning, not when pick 6 may be on offer as opposed to pick 10/11 if the eagles win by a bit ( playing Adam Selwood also reflects this).
Players of note
Probably a little bias here, but I love the consistency that Scooter Selwood( $494,000)and Chris Masten ($429,000) have developed this year and expect nothing different this game. Both good PODâs for this week. Patty Dangerfield ($433,000) is the sort of player who can get off the chain (especially if A Selwood runs with him, and not S Selwood) and I think he is due for a big score. Will lead from the front with Scotty Thompson ($377,000) of there is a sniff of a finals hope. Hopefully, the eagles can once again nullify Adeiadeâs finals campaign!
Essendon vs Richmond
The context â Despite technically being a dead rubber, I think it will be far from it. Essendon have something to prove after the week they have had and have to show up for their fans. Richmond are in good form and donât want to change that. Letâs hope for a shootout.
Players of note:
Watson ($469,000) and Cotchin ($444,000) have both been named in the square. Would be great to see them both go head to head and if it did happen, you could see big scores from both players. Cotchin has 99, 143 and 145 in his last 3 against the bombers, while Watson has 122 and 134 in his last 2 against the tigers. Will Cotchin get subbed again as management for the finals if the game is in the bag? Deledio had 160 on them last year and 3 tons in his last 3 games.
GC vs GWS
The context – Nothing to play for here but pride and careers next year. Hopefully GWS can get up for Sheedyâs last game as coach and make a fist of the game.
Players of note
Will Gary Ablett ($444,000)return to form? Is he injured? Or is this the evolution of the suns not requiring him to have the ball every second possession? Iâm not sure and am currently considering benching Ablett as I think he will get a tag from Scully/Whiley too. Charlie Dixon ($303,000) has been named in the ruck and can go big. One to consider.
Collingwood vs NM
The context – Could be a live game for NM and we see them come in and swoop the last spot in the finals with their superior %. Collingwood just want to maintain their good form to have any chance of going deep into the finals and should be up for the scrap from NM.
Players of note â
Steele Sidebum ($491,000)has his BFF Beams back in the team this week, which usually translates into a big score. Had 106 on them earlier this year and projected for a 120. Swanny is at the styâ and where he is as happy as a pig in the proverbial and a lock for the C. Toddy Goldstein ($400,000) is a popular replacement for the rested Zac Clarke which seems a good replacement as his last 2 scores against the pies have been 101 and 104. Up against 5 game veteran Brodie Grundy, he might show him a thing or too. Then again, Goldstein could go one better than last year and flop in the GF, rather than the prelim! You have been warned!
Melbourne vs Bulldogs
The context – While this match has sweet FA relevance to the AFL season, it has a hell of a lot of relevance in the Fantasy world! A lot of coaches may choose players like Griffen as captain, while others are bringing in Liberatore and Boyd for that final Sunday push. There canât be too many from Melbourne who are not playing for their careers on Sunday, so you would think they would get up for the occasion?
Players of note
Beware of form tagger Jordie McKenzie as he will go to one of the above mentioned three, and likely Griffen. I Expect a big game from Luke Dalhaus ($400,000) and Bob Murphy ($380,000) to comeback after last weeksâ 49 as it is the mid players who pick up their scoring against the dees, not just the big names. Rookie Dean Terlich ($401,000) is likely to finish the season as the dees most valuable DT player, which says a lot about the state of affairs at Melbourne. Itâs also hard to even think about who you would even consider  from the dees in 2014? Thatâs what I thoughtâŠ..
So there are definitely some points of difference in there to consider if you are behind in your projected and need to make up some ground. Should be a good weekend of football and Iâm sure there will be a surprise or two!
Running review
2 wins and 2 losses for The Running Man in major prelims and through to the GF of the of our writers league. Have to beat the 9th ranked @TeeTee to get the chocolates so have my worked cut out for me. Unsure of my trades as yet but will definitely upgrade JJK and maybe Cotchin, but his history against the bombers has me over thinking things now. Swanny is a lock for the captain and then itâs cross my fingers time.
 Thanks
I would like to say a big thank you to all the coaches for their well wishes throughout the season. Writing a weekly article can sometimes be tough as it is quite time consuming (Iâm also a very good procrastinator) so people nice comments and well wishes go a long way to keep me motivated along the way. Looking forward to a nice break an enjoying the finals for just the football and not possessions/tackles goals (will still have a look out of habit though). Have some big ideas for next year and welcome all feedback and suggestions on how I can improve the article to make as relevant as possible.
Good luck to all in GF’s and Especially Hook for the number 1!
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Kym
August 30, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Thanks Jimbob, enjoyed reading your articles this year.
I have Cotchin & Stanton (I know) in my team and i’m thinking of moving them both on.
With the uncertainty of how the game is going to unfold, I just don’t feel comfortable playing them.
Cheers
JimmyBob
August 30, 2013 at 2:29 pm
thanks Kym, this is where a rolling lockout may be useful!
Kym
August 30, 2013 at 6:28 pm
Agreed
kano21
August 30, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Great write up mate. I have Lids on the field and Cothin as bench cover. I was considering trading out Lids incase of a tag. Do you think the possible huge score would be worth the risk fielding either one of them?
JimmyBob
August 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm
Well hocking ins’t playing so I’ll back either to break their tag. the risk depends on whether you are behind in your GF projected
kano21
August 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Comparing his team to mine I am fairly confident I have hime covered. Who to play on field out of them is the hard part though
Ben
August 30, 2013 at 2:40 pm
cheers for all the articles this year mate, loved reading them every Friday for some last minute advice.
Just quickly, want okeefe and eski out however i dont have the cash to do both, so i might have to downgrade clisby to get the money. Leaning towards O’keefe out as there are better midfield options than backs (obviously). Plus shaw is out for the swans this week so that should be good for malceski.
Should I go O’keefe to montagna or beams?
thanks :)
JimmyBob
August 30, 2013 at 2:49 pm
I would go ROK to Beams out of all that
Hook
August 30, 2013 at 2:51 pm
Great work JimBob. Good luck in your gf’s.
Thanks for all the articles through the year.
JimmyBob
August 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Been a pleasure Hook. good luck for the weekend!
Kym
August 30, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Excellent write up and good luck, but a couple of players of note you didn’t mention.
Dropped Swan to VC and locked in Steve J who now has a better average and should go huge against the Lions. Was initially going to go Stokes for JJK, but now favour St Nick against a weakened Freo.
rob
August 30, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Need to bench one of:
Buddy, Chappy, Dalhaus, Gray, Monfries or Wellingham.
Which one should I boot?
JimmyBob
August 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm
that is the most unique forward line ever! Franklin.
rob
August 30, 2013 at 4:50 pm
its ultimate footy – not DT! it would be a crazy DT fwd line!
Disco DB
August 30, 2013 at 3:22 pm
JimBob VGP – veeery good player. Enjoyed your work the most on DT Talk.
Paul
August 30, 2013 at 3:37 pm
thanks jimbob been a great read every week!!
got a tough decision this week, do i play roughhead to cover my opponent, or playing bartel….PODs are
enright, ellis v hibbard, shaw
barlow, sidebottom v sloane, neale (possibly traded out)
stokes v johnston (possibly traded out)
Cubbie
August 30, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Good write as always.
I have decided to upgrade a ruck and forward. I have been using Gorringe as cover for Kreuzer over the last few weeks, I was lucky it did not cost me last week. Well Kreuzer is back but I do not trust him so it is one of the Mincer, Goldstein or Leuy. I think the Mincer is the best options, but then that will leave me 4k short of my possible next trade which is St Nick.
So do I go Mincer and someone else (Bartel or Pav) or go one of the other rucks and get ST Nick?
Kym
August 30, 2013 at 4:14 pm
St Nick – not much between the 3 Rucks.
Vishnu27
August 30, 2013 at 4:28 pm
I disagree with Kym. I am in a very similar situation to you with Kruezer. I am keeping Kruezer as backup (hopefully he plays, but isn’t required) & upgrading my R3 to Minson. I think your Pavlich call is totally sound, as he should get a lot of it this weekend. Who’s going to stop him???
Cubbie
August 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm
AT the same stage Freo are resting half their side, who is stopping St Nick?
Chatta
August 30, 2013 at 4:05 pm
One you missed from Geelong JB is Mitch Duncan – has snuck under the radar the last 6 weeks – take out his injured 1 has averaged 110 over the last 6 weeks – in my team this week as a POD to contest 4/4 grand finals.
Vishnu27
August 30, 2013 at 4:30 pm
I have looked at Mitch too. My only concern is a late withdrawal. He has played every match this year. I have a feeling there may be a few for the Cats this weekend. I certainly hope there isn’t though!!
lloydy_94
August 30, 2013 at 4:11 pm
My team:
DEF: Goddard, O’Brien, Ellis, Gibbs, Duffield, McKenzie (J.Webster, N.Blee)
MIDS: G.Ablett, D.Swan, Pendles, M.Barlow, T.Cotchin, N.Fyfe, K.Jack, D.Beams (T.Mitchell, M.Arnot)
RUCKS: D.Cox, W.Minson (B.Grundy, D.Currie)
FWDS: S.Johnson, J.Kennedy, J.Bartel, Martin, C.Mayne, Rockliff, (B.Staker, A.Oxley)
$176,100 in the bank
In 1 Grand Final this week, The team im versing is pretty similar to mine.
Thinking of trading Fyfe to Joel Selwood..
Thoughts on my second trade?? Could i trade one of K.Jack or T.Cotchin?? They have Trent Cotchin but not K.Jack. also has montagna.
Could i trade in my defence? i think thats where we arent as similar, only 2 players in common. Their defence: Goddard, Hibberd, Malceski, Hanley, Gibbs, Shaw, Birchall and Oxley.
Thoughts on my team overall and trades i could make??
Jim V
August 30, 2013 at 4:15 pm
Hey Jimbob, nice article and thanks for your writeups this year…
after some opinions…
My opponent has griffen and I’m thinking of trading Fyfe for Liberatore. I also want to kick JJK out for Stokes…What are your thoughts on these and are there any other options which could be considered?
cheers
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Griffen vs Masten?
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 4:17 pm
and should i go JPK-Stokes or Stanton to Scooter?
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Sorry Roughead-Stokes or Stanton to Scooter?
Vishnu27
August 30, 2013 at 4:35 pm
I would go Masten this week. The McKenzie possibility is a real concen, considering his output the last weeks. CM likely to run free though at Subi. If I had an extra 5k he would become my M9 this week for S.Mitchell
Nick
August 30, 2013 at 4:57 pm
Any recommendations??
Back: Goddard Gibbs McKenzie Enright Heppell Malceski (Clisby Wright)
Mid: Ablett Swan Pendlebury Barlow Griffen Stanton Priddis Crouch (Mayes Hunter)
Ruck: Goldstein Minson (Grundy Naismaith)
Forward: Rockliff Johnson Bartel Martin Cloke JJK (Neade Lee)
I was thinking of trading heppell to shaw or harbrow and upgrade stanton to liberatore⊠Im not 100% sure so if anyone could give me any tips or suggestions that would be great.
Thanks
And who is the best defender under 362k heath shaw, birchall, grimes, harbrow, taylor duffield, burgoyne, dixon???
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Prob Duff Shaw Grimes
Henry
August 30, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Shaw or Dixon.
Ryan
August 30, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Who should i bring in? Shaw,McKenzie or dixon? For malceski have 344k
Nick
August 30, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Who to bench stanton or crouch…. Thoughts??
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 5:07 pm
Stanton
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 5:11 pm
Which option is better
1. Clisby to Hartigan Stanton to Scooter
2. Griffen to Masten Stanton to Scooter
tony too cool
August 30, 2013 at 5:20 pm
griffen to masten seems backwards even with a McKenzie tag.
Sphincter
August 30, 2013 at 5:23 pm
agreed
Nick
August 30, 2013 at 5:25 pm
option 1
Ryan
August 30, 2013 at 6:32 pm
2. Masten is still gonna get you a 100 or even more. Your still getting scooter for stanton. Scooter and Masten would be a safer bet then Griffen and Stanton as Stants might get you something shocking. And Griffen will cop the mcKenzie tag but should still score 100
T.Mac-37
August 30, 2013 at 5:12 pm
My Team:
DEF:Ellis,Goddard,Hanley,Enright,Gibbs,Duffield (Hibberd,Colquhoun)
MID:Swan,Ablett,J.Selwood,Pendles,Barlow,Cotchin,Priddis,Griffen (Titchell,Carter)
RUCK:Cox,Goldstein (Grundy,Moller)
FWD:JJK,Johnson,Riewoldt,Martin,Bartel,Rockliff (Dwyer,Johnston)
Cash: $278,100
Was thinking of going JJk to Stokes and probably Cotchin to an upgrade or something like that not sure on my second trade Thoughts?…
Sorry I posted it here but couldn’t get on the computer and this is the only chance I got sorry
P Mackey
August 30, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Do i keep hanley, or get rid of him for Duff, Bob murphy or someone under 380k? please help
tony too cool
August 30, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Keep hanley use a trade elsewhere.
Whats the better combo this weekend?
1.Watson and Grimes
or
2.Griffin and HaRRY O / Stanley.
Henry
August 30, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Definitely Griffin (v Melbourne) and Harry O – in form and potential for a mega score.
Henry
August 30, 2013 at 5:23 pm
Thanks Jimbo. I enjoyed your columns.
I want to drop JJK. Do I bring in NRoo (v Freo) or Minson (v Ds)? My opponent has NRoo.
Ryan
August 30, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Get Charlie Dixon, Trent McKenzie or Heath Shaw for Nick Malceski?
Nick
August 30, 2013 at 5:40 pm
im bringing in dixon for heppell
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Danny Stanley?
Ryan
August 30, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Can’t afford him. Only have 344
Ryan
August 30, 2013 at 6:40 pm
Birchall?
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Chapman or Stokes? My opponent has neither.
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 5:41 pm
And is one of the Dogs midfielders essential this week?
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:11 pm
PLEASE HELP!
Kym
August 30, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Stokes. Boyd and Libba should get big scores
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Is J Selwood better though?
Vested Warrior
August 30, 2013 at 6:19 pm
Stokes.
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:22 pm
Thanks. And the other question?
Big Feller
August 30, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Great work Jim Bob – have loved the articles this year.
BAW5DT
August 30, 2013 at 5:59 pm
Who do people think will go larger in Hanley or Trent Mckenzie? I ask because my opponent in my GF will field Hanley and dos’nt have Makka. Looking for a bit of a POD, seeing as Makka has GWS to Hanleys Geelong.
Cheers for input
Scott
August 30, 2013 at 6:01 pm
Is it wise to trade out kieren jack and who to?. His output has been disappointing in the last few weeks. I have already traded out o’keefe for liberatore. I have Swan, Pendlebury, Ablett, Cotchin, Mitchell, Tom Mitchell, Josh Saunders, Joel Selwood and Trent cotchin in my midfield
Watto's Guns
August 30, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Sidebottom?
Watto's Guns
August 30, 2013 at 6:02 pm
K Jack or Cotchin?
Scott
August 30, 2013 at 6:08 pm
cotchin
Watto's Guns
August 30, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Cloke or Walker?
Bach
August 30, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Anyone got news about Bartel or Enright being rested this week? Just read that its on the cards. I have both in my team but just traded enright in this week so can reverse it if need be.
Scott
August 30, 2013 at 6:06 pm
Is it wise to trade out kieren jack and who to?. His output has been disappointing in the last few weeks. I have already traded out o’keefe for liberatore. I have Swan, Pendlebury, Ablett, Cotchin, Mitchell, Tom Mitchell, Josh Saunders, Joel Selwood and Trent cotchin in my midfield. I can afford anyone apart from Beams
Watto's Guns
August 30, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Sidebum
Derek
August 30, 2013 at 6:09 pm
roughead or kennedy on the pitch?
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:18 pm
Roughy
Watto's Guns
August 30, 2013 at 6:19 pm
How do you reckon Roughy will go? looking at bringing cloke in to replace him..
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:24 pm
A solid 70
Shags
August 30, 2013 at 6:10 pm
Jack Watts or Staker on field. This is for SC (unceremoniously booted from all comps last week, even though I scored 2200+).
tony too cool
August 30, 2013 at 6:25 pm
I would go watts. Staker needs snaggers to get a decent score. Cant see it this weekend
MD
August 30, 2013 at 6:21 pm
Really keen for your thoughts.
O’keefe > J. Selwood
Nicholls > Hall (to get the coin for Selwood)
I’ve got Cotchin on the field and Brad Crouch on the bench. Should I make a swap given Cotchin has scored poorly in the past 2 weeks??
good luck to all teams in the big GF!
Shazzam
August 30, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Get around JomBob. This man is a gun. Clear, concise and always very informative.
For a person with little time, I get the most from your articles.
Hope to read all yours next year.
Best of luck to you and all.
Shazzam.
AĂaĂin8
August 30, 2013 at 6:33 pm
+1
Bach
August 30, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Enright or Stanley given the chance Enright might be rested and I dont have much in terms of bench cover?
tony too cool
August 30, 2013 at 6:28 pm
I think u answered it yourself. Got a feeling cover could be important this weekend!.
tony too cool
August 30, 2013 at 6:33 pm
last minute stress out $1500 riding on league win-
Priddis or griffen on the field?
Got griffin on at moment but McKenzie the little tagging wnker is a worry
Benjamin
August 30, 2013 at 6:41 pm
This is what my midfield looks like after trades –
MID: Swan, Ablett, J.Selwood, Pendles, Barlow, S.Mitchell, K.Jack, Griffen (Priddis, A.Carter)
Should I bring Priddis on the field for Griffen or K.Jack considering his form hasn’t been great of late?
MD
August 30, 2013 at 6:42 pm
go with Priddis… he’ll get you 100+ … Jack may struggle against the Hawks.
MD
August 30, 2013 at 6:41 pm
Cotchin or Crouch on the field?
Shazzam
August 30, 2013 at 6:48 pm
Cothin.. He is in your team for a reason. aaand they are here to play..
MD
August 30, 2013 at 6:53 pm
cheers lad
Shazzam
August 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm
Kieran Jack or Mitchell Duncan?
R.Swipe
August 30, 2013 at 7:25 pm
Who should I bench – Jack, Masten or Ablett?