Like a circus lion tamer turned on by his performing pride, I feel like my rookies bit my head off this round. The eliminator was all my Merv Gray Autos had going for them, given my poor national ranking and league position, but I was kicked out of that this week with Michael Barlow missing, [...]" />

Chook’s Rooks: Round 10

Like a circus lion tamer turned on by his performing pride, I feel like my rookies bit my head off this round.

The eliminator was all my Merv Gray Autos had going for them, given my poor national ranking and league position, but I was kicked out of that this week with Michael Barlow missing, Cameron Hitchcock injured, Jeromey Webberley struggling in his first start ahead of Matt Maguire and Ben Howlett following a good first half with a horrible second one.

My bad choices/underperformers aside, I still would’ve progressed to the next stage of the eliminator had my opponent not got hundreds from three rookie forwards – yes, three – in James Podsiadly, Tom Rockliff and Nathan Fyfe. Like I said, head bitten off.

I’m not telling you about my eliminator hard luck story because I’m chasing sympathy (well, not completely), but because it serves as an example of the kind of crap most of us put up with from our rook-stars this week. Lots of coaches would’ve been stung by the resting of Melbourne duo Tom Scully and Jack Trengove, especially if they also had Barlow and a Luke Shuey/Mitch Banner/Jarrod Kayler-Thomson-sized hole on the bench.

Aside from the three aforementioned forwards, there was one other bright spark, however. Jordan Gysberts made a Barlow-like debut for Melbourne, racking up 103 DTs against Geelong. Not too shabby. More about him later, though.

Three-or-more gamers

There were more price drops for Scott Gumbleton, Anthony Morabito, Mitch Farmer and Lewis Jetta, although they are merely the worst of a pretty bad bunch. So many of our rookies have now plateaued, coaches have to decide whether they’re there for the cash or as bench cover for the rest of the season. That’ll depend on how many trades you’ve got left, of course.

Owners of Pods, Rockliff and Fyfe have nothing to worry about, with the latter two joining Tony Armstrong and Henry Playfair in negative-breakeven territory. If you’re planning to milk Ben Howlett, Todd Banfield or Jeromey Webberley, then you’d do better to hang a week or two as well, with all three still enjoying low BEs.

The Dees’ decision to rest Trengove and Scully bought their owners another week before they leaked any money, but expect price drops from the top two picks after round 11. Barlow seems to have already convinced the Freo fitness staff that he’s ready to rejoin the high-flying Dockers this week, while Mitch Duncan is an outside chance to be recalled given the poor performance of Simon Hogan on Saturday.

There’s no news yet on Cameron Hitchcock‘s shoulder injury, but a berth this week seems out of the equation.

Two gamers

After attracting 12,000 new owners on the back of just one game, Sydney defender Campbell Heath is bound to prove popular again this week now that he’s on the verge of his first price rise. Heath was less impressive against Hawthorn as he was on debut, and his job security is slightly reduced with Paul Roos stating that Craig Bird should be recalled for the Swans’ round 11 clash, but he’s still the best (and only) option if you’re downgrading a defender.

For Buddy owners with little or no cover, North Melbourne forward Nathan O’Keefe is the other slightly tempting two-gamer this week, coming off games of 58 and 55. In the wake of North Melbourne’s Sunday arvo massacre at the hands of Fremantle, the Kanga fans on BigFooty were baying for blood (including that of rookie Ben Cunnington), but the majority seem to think O’Keefe deserves some more opportunities. I desperately want to sign someone who’s going to see the season out and don’t think it’s this guy, but the downgrade targets are getting fewer and farer between.

There are three other two gamers, but I’m doubting they’ll attract many suitors. Why? Austin Wonaeamirri comes at a high price ($138k), has looked slower than the 2008 version of himself and has enough injuries in his past to put most coaches off. Daniel Stewart missed five games between his first and second, posting 40 or fewer points in each. Rhys Stanley is a ruck. Wona could recapture his rookie-year form, Stewart might do a Fyfe and Stanley, well… he’ll still be a ruck, but you get the point. These guys could prosper, but I haven’t got heaps of faith in them.

One gamers

It’s a short shout down here with just Gysberts and yet another forward, Richmond’s Ben Griffiths, making their AFL debuts in round 10. We’ve already touched on Gysberts’ awesome first-up effort, which has prompted plenty of coaches to suggest he’s secured a spot for the year. I’m not so bold, and want to see how the return of Scully and Trengove affect his output. Still, it’s nice to finally see some fresh meat in the midfield bracket. Griffith scored just 19 points against Port Adelaide, but that was in only half a game after a thigh injury forced him off in the third quarter. If he fails to return, either through injury or form, he’ll be, like, the winningest Tiger of all time. The mail from most Richmond supporters is that Griffiths will get another chance, however, with the tall forward likely to be given an opportunity to show his talents in dry conditions before being written off.

Like last week, anyone downgrading at the moment is engaging in some risky business. Are you going to do a Tom Cruise? If so, let us know who you’ll you be adding to your team this week.

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213 Comments

  1. Great job chook, I’m thinking its time to consolidate trades, however some guys need to be upgraded, and is there any harm in holding on for an extended period before making an upgrade? I don’t have great reason to burn trades at this stage (ie, Hitchcock or Phil Davis)

  2. Great post Chook
    Annoying about Hitchcock he looked as though he was just about to do really well..looks like I have to play Gumby or Playfair this week

    • Alfred was from what he showed up in Darwin was about to break out. Although from what I read on him before the season started about his shoulder problems in the past was a worry. But hopefully he’ll only be out for a couple weeks.

  3. Love Chooks Rooks but there needs to be an update to it on Thursday night with any new rookies having been named or rookies axed for quick viewing purposes. Could also go on the teams article too I suppose.

    • its not hard to look up something yourself!!!
      ask for much? gee wizz

      • Its a Dream Team advice website buddy. The point of this website is to have stuff nice and concise rather than having to wade through megabytes of information to find what you want quickly. Knowing which rookies are in and out is very, very important in the grand scheme of things.

        • Its updated during the week so it keeps people’s interest during the week (like the new ‘Plus4′) and so you’re not bombarded with all this info come Thurs when teams are announced. Probably gives the servers a bit of a rest too, so maybe go easy with the criticism.

        • And then they could do another update on Friday night, with the new rookies that actually remain in the 22!!!!!! haha.

          Think the boys doing great job at the moment, and any new rookies are normally discussed in the ‘Teams forum”.
          Keep up the good work boys. :-)

  4. not too many rooks around this week

  5. Was thinking of trading out Rockliff before the start of his game. Instead he got a 100, took his BE down and I’ve had to totally change my trade plans. It teaches me not to plan my trades 2 weeks in advance. =)

    • Tony Notte from the Eagles (forward, 94K) may get a game soon, shown good form in the WAFL with 4 goals last week and is 20 years old. I have a feeling Andrew Strijk may get upgraded from the rookie list mid season too. He is a back.

  6. Loving the look of Gysberts but think i’ll have to wait at least one more week just to see if he’s named for his 3rd game. Great to see some mid field new blood emerging finally I might be able to bin JKT who was the single worst mistake for me this season…

  7. i hope marcus davies and dennis-lane break into the side this week…. nab cup form was solid, might be hard for davies to break into a winning side, but maybe trent can squeeze in hopefully. also norris from the kangas, i’d like him to hang off the packs and get easy touches…. could be a good downgrade for howlett in a couple of weeks.

    • Would be lucky if he can hang of the kangas pack to get easy kicks…………..at the moment if it come out of a kangas pack the opposition have it and are running it to goals!!!!!

  8. is hughes still owrth looking at?
    or should i go with o’keefe or griffiths as i am looking to downgrade dangerfield so i can get stanton in for martin

  9. How does the BE system work??

    • based on the players last 2 scores, the bigger they are the smaller the BE (depending on how much they cost). They use to have a BE Calculator on here which helped but just look at Fanffoty for BE’s :)

      • based on 3 games actually

        Get the FF Genie app – link on the DT Talk homepage – gives BEs for every player (along with heaps of other shit like trade calculators etc)

    • If a player scores more than break even (BE), their value will go up, if it’s less they go down. If it’s even, well…

  10. Does anyone know what’s happening with Rohan Bail… played three decent games and is now MIA????

    Thinking he might go down to Gizzy. Not much cash but I would like a second reliable bencher for my midfield.

    • Yeah I’m interested in him too. I’ve tried looking up more info but cant find any. Does anyone know what’s going on with him?

      To make maters worse for me I also have JKT on the bench. So here are two guys both with BE’s of -49′s not getting any games.

      Time to upgrade them??

      • Bail got ko’ed and taken to hospital in the casey game at the weekend. he’s ok but i cant see him making the side next week. he’ll have a tough time breaking back into the side with morton back and gysberts adding to scully and jt

  11. No mention of that new rookie for GWS? Whats his name…. Israel Folau, thats the one. He will be a good 9th Forward in 2012 at rookie price at Job Security to die for

  12. I noticed last week that the Swanies intially named Trent Dennis-Lane on Thursday night, only to see him dropped from the 22 by Fri. With Bradshaw still out, what chance do you think TDL will have in getting a game in the near future?

    • TDL hardly got a kick on the weekend and failed to kick a goal in the ressie’s.

      Bird was best afield for the 2′s with Barlow a close second!

      I am rather worried about Heath!

  13. Might want to hold out getting in dpp rookies, rumour is that the dpp feature will be disabled after the split round. (No source yet, just rumour)

  14. 33 rank overall…. This week Gilbert comes in for Kennelly.

    a few weeks until Judd is in for howlett (once his peaked)

    Final team will then be.

    Goddard Enright Carrazzo Hodge Gilbert Scotland Waters

    Abeltt Swan Bartel Montanga Judd Barlow

    Cox Hille

    Chapman Pavlich ROK Brown Giansiracua Goodes Podsiadilly

    You might just be looking at the best team in the world right here!!!

    • Just shut up mate….

    • Or the 33rd best, so that means there are still 32 better than yours not bragging all the time…………

    • Tkol,

      I have a pretty similar team to you. This week I’m bringing in Brown and Gilbert, to make my team look like this…

      Def: Goddard Enright Carrazzo Hodge Gilbert Hargrave Waters (Davis, Webberley)
      Mids: Abeltt Swan Bartel Montanga Selwood Barlow (JKT, Shuey)
      Rucks: Sandi Hille (Warnock. Bass)
      Forwards: Pavlich ROK Brown Giansiracua Higgins Franklin Podsiadilly (Fyfe, O’keefe)

      8 trades for injuries. currently ranked around 1000

      How many trades to you have left?

    • what cover you got on your bench, or are they all not gonna miss a game for the rest of the year
      and johno brown and rok aren’t travelling that well ,and carrazzo is a tagger now, so that will plummet

      • Webberly Hams(worried about hams)

        Martin howlett(will be jizzbert when i bring in judd)

        trengove warnock

        rockliff gumby!

        Its easy to see my team im 33 remember

        • Happy for some thoughts on where to from here tkol (or others).

          Goddard, Hodge, Kelly, Grundy, Maguire, Hargrave, Heath / Kennelly, Webberley
          Swan, Ablett, Gibbs, Mitchell, Ball, Barlow / Trengove, Shuey
          Sandi, Hille / Warnock, Grimley
          Chapman, Pav, ROK, Brown, Pods, Grant, Peterson / Gumby, Duncan

          9 trades, 10k.

          Realistically, I’d like to upgrade Peterson, Hargrave and Heath on the field.

          Would you upgrade this week or hold off? (This motley crew snagged 2024 last week)

  15. In his situation you’d all do the same. Brag away, that’s why we all play DT :)

  16. Most of my so-called keepers are playing like bloody rookies right now. FMDT X 10 !!!

  17. Guys i have only got 6 trades left and Cambell Brown is out for a month who should i trade for him??

    Schmidt, L.Hansen, H.Taylor or Myers?? who should i pick?!

    and does anyone know why Barlow didn’t play last week????

    • i wuld go Myers
      Pav reckons it was due to a cork in the back
      though other sources suggest its a slight hamstring concern

    • Would not waste a trade on buying any of those named players. Your best option is to downgrade a bench player with value ie. Gumbleton -> O’keefe, Then with the extra cash trade Brown for Duffield, Fisher, or any premium within your budget

  18. who wuld be the best to get rid of on the midfield bench??
    Jarrod Kayler-Thompson or Mitch Banner…..
    any ideas as to how many more games these guys will get??

  19. Good work Chook.
    This week I’m going to downgrade Maguire to Heath and upgrade Martin to Gibbs :)

    • Then next week i’m palnning to downgrade Howlett to Gysberts and then upgrade Brennan (pissing me off on my bench) into Chapman :)
      Then my side is set!!!

  20. I took a punt last week and downgraded Martin -> Gysberts before Gysberts had even played a game, taking the gamble that he would pay off more so then Armstrong. So far so good. There are no decent downgrade options in any other position though, which makes it tough to make many upgrades

    • I’m thinking that Nathan O’keefe is a decent option for my 9th forward if he gets picked this week for his 3rd game.

      With fyfe on my bench i’ve got decent cover, and the Kangas are playing plenty of youngsters so would think his job security is ok.

      Thoughts of O’keefe?

  21. I’m worried about the top heavy issue that North have. Too many talls, and Petrie and Hale would be ahead of O’Keefe at the moment

    • spot on his games are numbered… Hale, McIntosh, Golsdtein, Petrie and O’Keefe and also Josh Smith pushes for selection all have stints in fwd line… who do u think is first to go?

  22. thinking bout a double this week;

    Davis -> Heath, then Mcloed -> either Fisher or Gilbert not sure who to pick up on this one….

    backs would look like Goddard, Hodge, Scotland, Enright, Waters, Harbrow, Fisher/Gilbert (Heath, Webberly)

    so, which? Fisher or Gilbert?

  23. Gazinator

    June 1, 2010 • 10:37 am .In his situation you’d all do the same. Brag away, that’s why we all play DT

    Thank you Gazinator!

    Its TKOL appreciation day! or (FIGJAM Day)

    Reallly…. why cant i be so happy, bloody tall poppy people! Ive slaved away since the days you had to send your team into the AFL every thursday by post!

    Im no fluke, my league in top 20 year in year out (18 currently this year) with relegations and i still manage to stay in!

    Dont fight me people of the dream, join me, as i put this sight on the map and am crowned the winner of the DT World!!

    • Good luck to you TKOL. If I was in your place I’d be talking it up right now too.

      After all you are only 2 or 3 LTI’s away from a completely fcuked up season so enjoy the ride I say…

      And if you do have the cards fall your way and manage to get yourself a car make sure you mention how awesome DTTalk is !!

    • You’re a fu*king knob.

      The very definition of a test-tube baby.

      If you can’t see that, I’m betting you can’t see your wang either, as you slave away at Wow, well tanned by your LED and helpings of grease.

      Who is so self-aggrandising? Let me tell you who has that right. Number fu*king one, pal.

      Until then, pi$$ off back to your mother’s basement*.

      *Metaphor, co*k.

  24. I reckon Daniel Stewart is a better buy than you realise Chook.

    Remember his first game was the mauling of the Power vs Geelong, and his second game was as a tall forwards playing in the wettest conditions for years, and he was one of only three forwards to kick a goal for Port.

    At SANFL level he gets plenty of shots at goal, his only concern is kicking accuracy.

  25. Just saw Israel Falou confirming and signing 4 year deal with GWS on Fox sports news. Its worth over 1 million a season, and he hasnt even played aussie rules. Will be interesting his fist game!

  26. Thats a disgrace, so they are saying that they are worth more than GAblett, Judd and JBRown, Rievoldt, etc!

  27. Now. News about Kane Lucas. Do we have any about the injury?
    He was definitely playing well enough to be in Carlton’s 22 and so it is all a matter of time before he gets back in and starts to earn couple more dollars.

  28. Hi fellas, long time reader (well, since 2010), first time poster facing a dilemma…

    I am tempted to downgrade my D7/D8 Josh Hunt to one of Campbell Heath or Dylan Roberton. I can then upgrade Ryan Bastinac to Gary Ablett and complete my midfield.

    Dilemma: This will take me to five trades for the season. Plus Ablett’s BE is quite high (>150) though not impossible for him to reach. And there are questions about the job security of both rookies (esp Roberton, who hasn’t been sighted since Round 7). Is it worth bearing the trade burn to bring Ablett in, or should I save the trades?

    Of course, if Roberton or Heath don’t play this week, this is a moot point :)

    Thanks in advance

    • think you answered your own question – roberton isn’t in the 22 at the moment, so yeh i’d say there is some concern over job security.

      heath is a bit more uncertain – few to come back (eg: Bird is the word) into the Swans and Roosy may have a LIFO policy there I think.

  29. Hi All,
    Need some help.

    My team.

    Backs – Goddard/ Hodge/ Enright / Carrots / Hunt / Webberly/ ( bench last week was Silvani / Kennelly)

    Mids – Hayes / Martin / Jselwood / Bartel / Barlow / Pendlebry (bench last week Armstrong who played thank god cause would of lost without barlow not playing / Shuey)

    Rucks – Hille / Sandi (warnock lobbee bench)

    Forwards – Gia / Rok / Pods / Pav / Goodes / Balla / Betts (bench = davis / brennan)

    I currently have 440k and 10 trades left.

    Thinking of doing Kennelly to Duffield or Gilbert (I need 2 more backman either way)

    I am getting Ablett in the Martin next week waiting one more week on Ablett

    Keeping Brennan?????

    Going to swap Balla for Brown probably next week.

    Thoughts?

    TKOL please help!

    • i would go kennelly for gilbo

      Martin to Swan (i think he will average about the same as ablett but ablett will be rested)

      Hunt to Scotland

      Balla to Brown

      I haven’t calulated salary btw… would most likely be around the mark tho

      • I agree with Jacked!

        Pretty gun team dude!

        Id look to bring in Scotland he is a star, just watch his ankle though.. i reckon he’ll miss a week!

        As for your midfield, Once you know how i feel about SWEET MERCIFUL JESUS( Gaz)

        Absolute must!

        People still discuss trades week in week out that dont have him and i think why the f**k not! Its all you need to trade!

      • Thanks mate, recon your pretty close to the cap.

        I think Ablett is a must to be honest!!!!!

        Hunt to Scotland would be interesting and very tempting!

        Balla to brown next week for sure

        good call Im going to look into scotland

        • i brough him in 4 weeks ago and his pumped out 4 hundreds!

          He rarely is benched and loves putting the ball in the air with 5 mins to go!

          Im sure he is captain of his own DT!

    • First problem u only have 6 backs

      • Forgot waters as my last back. Gilbert be of 97 this week still quite high
        should I keep Brennan??? I’m ranked like 8000 but with Gilbert brown and ablett coming in by next week hoping for 2200

  30. Time to dump p.Davis?

  31. Giggety giggety goo that’s quagmire

  32. Will Leon play this week?

  33. This week i had 2 donuts thanks to my midfeild.
    McKenzie, Trengove, Banner and Barlow.

    what are your thoughts on keeping Trengove through out the year.

    my midfeild looks like this
    Ablet, Selwood, Barlow, Judd, Mitchell, McKenzie (Trengove and Banner)

    thinking of trading Mckenzie > Bartell in a couple of weeks when he is at his cheapest (BE 145)

    I could also go trengove to Gysberts but then i will have both banner and gysberts.
    how many games will gysberts play and will he play any good with scully and trengove
    and is there any chance of banner playing?

  34. the 41 yr old virgin who knocked up Sarah Marshall and felt superbad about it

  35. Shortys on the melody in my head Nah nah nah everyday got my jpod stuck on replay replay

  36. baconb

    keep brennan dude. He will come back fit and firing!

    Then you’ll have to hold out for injuries for the last 11 weeks!

  37. What’s a likely score 4 jpod this weekend?

  38. Did Jordie McKenzie play on the weekend? Just thinking, if he was out, as well as Trengove/Scully – how will Jizzberts stay in the side? – keep scoring hundreds and I suppose he will force them to keep him there I suppose but I definitely will be waiting until after next week to trade him in.

    I just hope we get a Liam Anthony/Dayne Beams this year come through around this time in the mids (like we did last year)

  39. Who would you put on the field out of Ziebel and Fyfe

      • Kobe all the way. Not even an argument.

        Can’t be the king until you win the ring, and bron bron ain’t done it, and ain’t gonna do it for some years IMO.

        I don’t even like Kobe, but he’s a killer, and a winner when it counts (which is the postseason by the way).

        • Do you know what Michael Jordan had won at exactly the same stage of his career? Sweet fa…same as LeBron. It was only when the Bulls got Scottie Pippen that MJ’s Bulls dominated. The Cavs ARE LeBron – if he doesn’t have a blinder, they lose and its as simple as that. His support crew is unfathomably hot and cold and mostly cold. The Lakers have consistent points from Fisher and Gosol and the bench can step up bigtime (Odom a bench player? He was the Clippers best player!). LeBron is a one-man wrecking crew who can drop threes at will, Kobe’s a shooter and cautious near the paint…LeBron baby!!!

  40. Swan or Montagna and save a bit of cash?
    Have changed my mind 10 times.

  41. Injury list as of May 31
    LUKE SHUEY (virus) 1-2 weeks

    http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/Default.aspx

    You have got to be joking? On top of that I traded in Griffiths last week and have Hitchcock.

  42. i need CASH!!!!

    2 options

    LADSON > HEATH

    Benefits:
    1. Hunt and heath as subs (hunt will play most games)

    or

    MCKENZIE > GYSBERTS (next week)

    Benefits:
    1. Gysberts will probly score better
    2. Get alot more Money

    Downside:
    1. My bench will be Gysberts and Banner (both might not play)
    2. Gysberts might play bad next week and might not get a game then the trade wont be worth it and i wont be able to trade at all

    Please thoughts

  43. Back: Hodge, Scotland, Harbrow, Maguire, O’Brien, Nason, Wojcinski (Dawson and Heath)
    Midfield: Montagna, Dal Santo, J Selwood, Barlow, Ball, Judd (Trengove and Armstrong)
    Ruck: Sandilands, Cox (Trengove and Roughead)
    Forwards: Daisy, Gia, ROK, Hall, JPod, Rioli, Grant (Dangerfield and Robbie Tarrant)
    $81,100 in the bank

    I didnt start the year with DT Talk so don’t bag my team too much. im thinking of trading Wocjinski out to Heath Shaw this week. Maybe next week trade Trengove to Gysberts then either Dangerfield to Pavlich or Nason to Goddard? what do you think?

  44. Thoughts on Heater Shaw as an upgrade in a week or two for Maguire?

  45. should i hold out on trading out ballantyne to goodes for a week seeing as his playing adelaide? or just get on goodsey.

    • From what i recall, Goodes’s BE is relatively low, so i’d imagine Goodes’s value should appreciate around 10K assuming he gets a ton this weekend, Personally i’d buy goodes now at a reasonable price because i doubt weather Ballentyne will appreciate in any significantly value this weekend

  46. Bit of help required please!

    My current team:

    B: Hodge-Carazzo-Kelly-Fisher-Waters-Kenelly-Maguire (Davis/Webberly)
    M: Swan-Judd-Bartel-Barlow-Ball-Harvey (Howlett/Shuey)
    R: Kruezer-NicNat (Warnock/Lobbe)
    F: Chapman-Pav-Gia-ROK-Goodes-Pods-Gray (Gumby/Relton)

    10 trades left, $24,900 in the bank.

    This week I’m thinking of going Gray->J.Brown and then NicNat->Mumford.
    Then locking in my team and riding it our with 8 trades for the rest of the seaason? Is that enough to get me through?

    What ya think?

  47. What do people think about Tom Gillies? Sounds like he might get a chance but job security is probably not too good. And when are Retzlaff and O’Brien (Lions defenders) gonna get a game?

    • i had tom gillies at the startof the year but traded him out befor first lock out. very happy i did.
      i dont think he will play ANY in that ledgendary side. go for heath or another defender surely theres better options then him coming up

  48. How will dream team work next year with 17 teams and all the byes ????????

    lets say i have 5 Geelong players in my team and Geelong dont play one week. i may loose 500 points???????

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