Chook’s Rooks – Round 6
Like those rotting carcases the Americans chasing a million bucks on Survivor mung into from time to time, a few of our rookies are now well past their use by date.
If you’ve got the cash in the bank, you’ll find plenty of fallen premiums – or cash fowls – littering the DT landscape at the moment. Upgrades, then, aren’t the issue.
Those looking to make some dough with a downgrade could be in trouble this week, however, with slim pickings in the two-game ranks.
Three-or-more-gamers
Quite a few coaches picked up Jarrod Kayler-Thomson last week when Richmond mid and pre-season stud Dustin Martin had a visit from General Soreness, the leader of the army charged with taking out our favourite rookies. The 17,000 coaches who brought the Hawthorn youngster in would’ve been disappointed by the bad case of third-game smalts he suffered, scoring 46 after a 65 and 101. Still, he enters round 7 with a breakeven of -48, which is the best of this lot if you don’t count injured Melbourne midfielder Rohan Bail (-49), who’s listed as a test this week.
If it wasn’t Kaylor-Thomson, lots of people were bringing in one of three rookie defenders for peaked Geelong back Josh Hunt. Concerns over Simon White’s job security at Carlton meant he was the least selected of the three, but the tall fella outscored both Adelaide’s Phil Davis (56) and West Coast’s Ashton Hams (68) with an 84.
Fremantle midfielder Michael Barlow convinced another ten thousand or so coaches that he’s keeper material with his fourth ton in six games. After a slow start, Geelong’s mature forward James Podsiadly got to triple-figures too, resulting in a $60k price rise. That’s $130k overall, then, which has got to be slightly annoying for the coaches who opted for Brisbane’s Tom Rockliffe instead. Rockliffe’s teammate Todd Banfield busted out his best score yet – a 90 – and picked up a Rising Star Award nomination for his troubles, not to mention a shiny, new BE of just 20.
At the other end of the scale are the blokes with the bigger breakevens. Mentioning rotting carcases well past their due date might have been a bit of an exaggeration, but there’s no denying midfielders Ryan Bastinac, of the Kangaroos, Tom Scully, of Melbourne, and Lewis Jetta, of Sydney, are all gradually closing in on their ceilings. All will make less than $10k this week if they maintain their season averages, while Fremantle’s Anthony Morabito has already started bleeding cash.
Two gamers
While it’s not panic stations yet, Morabito, Bastinac, Scully and Jetta owners should at the very least be window shopping at this point. In the window this week are another Docker kid, Nathan Fyfe, a couple of rucks in Matthew Lobbe and Jordan Roughead, and the highly rated but, thus far, poorly performing Ben Cunnington. Well, we can write off the rucks straight away, as no one’s downgrading Robbie Warnock, especially to someone like Lobbe, who’s scored a pair of 28s. For all the hype, Cunnington hasn’t fared much better, making 48 on debut followed by a 36 last week. At least with Cunnington there’s a reasonably decent chance that he’ll feature in plenty more games this year (cue his omission on Thursday), but his price tag of $140k is a major drawback. That leaves Fyfe, a forward, whose scores would make him the most attractive downgrade target of the bunch if it wasn’t for concerns over his long-term chances and the fact that anyone in need of a rookie forward would’ve already snapped up JPod, T-Rock or Davis. Our best hope in the two-gamer bracket has been plying his trade in the VFL for the past two weeks. After being named in Bendigo’s best both times, Ben Howlett can’t be far from a return for the Dons. His BE is -79.
One gamers
If my rookies are almost ripe but the two gamers stink, there must be some good downgrade targets on the horizon, I hear you hopefully exclaim. Well, not really. Just two players debuted in round six – Adelaide handed a start to Matthew Jaensch, while Fremantle blooded Dylan Roberton in the WA derby. I don’t want to write a post randomly inserting Ss into people’s names, so it’s Roberton, okay? No Ss. Anyway, he’s listed as a back in DT, while they have Jaensch down as a forward. Let’s have another look at them this week but, for the record, Roberton chalked up a 57 and Jaensch scored 68.
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Jarrad Grant from the Bulldogs should remain our little secret, Chook.
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Oh Shi*
Yeah i was wondering about that, last two chooks rooks and no mention?
Job security for him is a wonder though..
Indeed.
Without a clear forward in my team to actually trade out for him, I’m probably going to skip, but he does look like good value if he can stay injury free and manage to stand just this side of Josh Hill in the queue for selection.
Word. I’ve got a long-standing rule that I keep the column strictly to rookies, ie first-year players, not rookie-priced players, but I’ve broken that this year with mentions of Gumby and Goose, amongst others, so I guess the precedent is there.
Alright, Grant got a 92 last week with a 58 before that. A forward priced at $96k, his BE is a Howlett-rivalling -78. A couple of years in the system is in his favour, but I’m not sold that he’s won himself a permanent place in the Bullies’ team yet.
If you were downgrading in the forward line this week, you’d pick Fyfe before Grant then? What about Schammer, Grover, and eventually a backup ruck get picked for Freo?
Schammer no longer in their best 22 doubt he will break in. Sandi has been fine for 6 rounds and if Harvey didnt want back up against cox and naitanui I dont see him doing it any time soon. The return of suban and grover however could possibly cause a reshuffle but IMO roberton and silvagni would make way for them.
Having a laugh if you think Silvagni will make way for anyone at the Dockers. The guy is rated as a good as pickup as Barlow. He’s been solid and will play 22 games now that there’s no issue of him returning to the rookie list (injury to Headland).
I wouldnt be so sure. I agree he’s been excellent but i reckon theyd still prefer the experience of grover. Unless they throw Mcpharlin forward I dont think they can have all 4 of them down there. My reasoning also comes of the back of the interview in the silvagni article. Surely if he was certain to hold his spot he wouldnt have said whatever happens he’s in our future plans.
Whats the go with the FFG Website?
Can we get access to the FFG somewhere else?
http://ffgenie.com/
Looking at Jaensch next week if i do decide to cash in on Barry, but I’ll think about that next week…
Turning Bastinac into Hayes this week and Jetta/Martin into Gibbs next week to complete my mids
Do a post randomly inserting e’s into names… like Rockliffe :P
Nice post Chook.
Oh shit. I gotta stop throwing stones.
In other news, I didn’t trade out Hunt last week on the misguided belief that he would score well against Richmond (you know, bloody everyone else does) and now I’m stuck for a downgrade, definitely don’t have enough spare cash to upgrade and the Cats are playing the DT handbrake this week.
Oh the humanity.
How much is Presti again?
will hunt get more ball playing sydney where the ball will actually be in geelongs backline?
No because he doesn’t like getting it. Sydney will just get goals instead.
Cool name tho. Makes me want steak and beers somehow.
Keep an eye out for Andrew Strijk of the Eagles. 77k mature aged running Back……..will debut in next few weeks. Sheppard (133k Back) will probably debut this week, and has been playing midfield in the WAFL last couple of weeks.
Strijk is rookie listed and unless a LTI opens up a spot he wont be playing.
hmmm maybe Chris Masten LTI?
Is 5-6 weeks long enough for a trip to the LTI?
No. 8 weeks min.
well i can honestly say im stuck this week with who to downgrade for…
will be considering my three rookies silvagni, nason and maguire and the 1-2 x6 weeks shuey, howlett is looking good for shuey but isnt getting me much cash to play with,
on the other hand my back rookies have no one to go to, im actually considering because he is bound to play and hopefully carve it off half back…..brad sheppard but still only gets me 100k
glad i didnt get JKT last week i have doubts over if he will get many more games considering mitchell and burgoyne will come back soon ish haha
looks as though shuey to howlett pending on selection especially considering 4 weeks (thanks welsh) a spot should be up for grabs
sorry for the rant just typing out loud
Dyson also goes out of the team with injury. Shury will come back, hold onto him unless you absolutely need someone to put on the field. Don’t expect Howlett to solve your 6th mid problems.
i know this sightly off topic what do pople think of bower from carlton with 2 games and chris dawes of collingwood with 2 games ????
Bower, maybe, Dawes, I don’t think so. But we didn’t get the Carlton – Collingwood game over here in Perth.
We did, it was shown at midnight. Im a pies fan so i stayed up to watch it haha. Dawes was super impressive too, but he is quite pricey for a cash cow.
That’s the problem alright. But…what if he wasn’t a cash cow? He’s a brick shithouse and could end up being the Pies go-to in no time. Keepable as a 7th forward, at a bargain basement price?
Keeping Nason one ore week and then gonna look at how Roberton does this week and maybe then downgrade. By that stage the money I earn i should be able to change Gumbie into Pav or so.
Keep wasting those trades boys! :)
There only wastes if they are not part of the long term plan. I had 3 zeroes last week and 1 the week before, I didn’t trade to cover any of them as I knew that my games were in the bag. Now that cash cows are maxing out that is the time to trade.
well said Morts, if trades are working as part of the long term plan then its for the good, esp with the injuries and cash cows out there…
Exactly…this is the time to start using some trades. If your not using trades than u did’nt pick up good rookies at the start……Plus its POINTS NOT TRADES that count towards your league standing, zeros are bad tobe getting this early.
Guys, the bragging rights falls on your overall score. Noone cares if you win your league unless there is cash involved.
what do you mean “if” SpeedMeades? of course there’s cash involved, who would go to all this trouble otherwise?!?
Keep keeping those trades and making no money off your cash cows boys!
If you are not using some NOW, then YOU are wasting them. Unless you are expecting 12 or so injuries to keepers, which, if you aren’t upgrading, is MOST of your keepers.
Didn’t hear much if any talk of Schmidt from the crows in the backline. He’s picked up 80k in 2 weeks. Less than 4% of teams with him.
I am looking at doing 2 of the following trades this week. Please help me choose which ones to do.
Gilbee (BE = -1) or Hargrave (BE = 42) –> Kennelly
Dawes (BE = -18) or Nathan Fyfe (BE = -60) or Jarrad Grant (BE = -78) –> Hitchcock
Howlet (BE = -79) or Selwood (BE = 68) or Hayes (BE = 82) –> Sylvia
Is it time to cash in Kennelly? His BE is 79!
Gilbee is looking really good with that BE of -1.
I don’t know how good and consistent Hargrave is going to be?
Which one should I choose?
Doesn’t look like Hitchcock will be getting another game anytime soon. Worth trading in now?
Where the hell did this Dawes fella come from? He’s scoring really well; 83 v Ess and 103 v Car! Will he continue this form? Or is it better to get one of these rookies (Fyfe or Grant) instead?
I’m not happy with Sylvia. I shouldn’t have picked a Melbourne player!!! 125, 112 and then a bloody 68! Plus, he’s stuck in my midfield atm so I can’t put him in the forwards where it would have been better. I regret getting this guy. Could have gotten a better choice like Hayes or Selwood. I know its not really worth a trade but I got feeling this guy is gonna keep on dropping in value (BE = 128), so should I swap him for Hayes or Selwood, or even Howlet which will give me some greatly need $$$ in my bank?
PLEASE HELP!
Another option for Sylvia could also be Gibbs. He’s dropped a fair bit and is looking good with a BE of 92.
1. Kennelly is ready to go if he was just a cash cow for ya. Hargrave the better move, saves the cash you said you need? Plus Gilbee’s price well come down again in a couple of rounds.
2. With Sylvia, don’t go to Howlett, you’ve saved cash in picking Hargrave, premium to a rookie is a bad move, you gotta go premium. Ne 1 of the names you mentioned would be good, i’d prefer Gibbs or Selwood.
3. Thats your 2 trades for this week, so as long as Hitchcock is on your bench, he’s good for another week b4 u cash in on him.
Seriously it’s the blind leading the blind… Do not trade Sylvia, he’s a premium keeper who isn’t injured and had one bad game when he was tagged. Don’t trade a premium to a rookie but trade a premium to a premium? Sideways trades for no legit reason(injury or long suspension or massive role change leading to form slump) are the worst. Sylvia will be a bit up down at times but he’ll easily score 90+ this year avg. If you desperate want him out of your kids, and yes you made a mistake picking him there, wait for Gary Rohan to debut, Which he should, then trade out a fwd rookie for him then swapthem around.
Took the words out of my mouth.
Exactly. R U crazy???? Don’t trade Sylvia…………..not happy with his 102 average over 3 games. Surely you have a DPP (fwd/mid) in your forward line who you may want to trade out later as part of an upgrade. Switch him with Sylvia and put gun mid in then!!!!
Stop worrying about keepers BE’s. It would be like trading Johno Brown because of his shit score the other week!!!!!
also clint jones is averaging over 100 and is a bit cheaper, not sure if he is a keeper though BE of 70!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE trade Sylvia. He’s had one bad score in a row, after all. If a guy isn’t averaging at least 110 then you need to be getting rid of him, and Sylvia is only averaging 107. I mean, I only trading the spud in a week ago, fooled by those two cracking hundreds, as well as those other two cracking hundreds in the last two round of last year, and I’m getting rid of him. Smashing a hundred in only four of his last five games just isn’t good enough.
I’m also ditching Bartel – I didn’t buy him to score me 96. Spud.
boys, need a good reccomendation for a rookie to downgrade hunt or maguire.
Im one of those unlucky coaches that fell into the ottens trap.
Webberley, Slattery(games later in year)…White and Davis more expensive options.
Yeah, I think I’m going to want to cash Nason and Silvagni over the next couple of weeks as they peak, and the lack of rookie back options sucks. Webberley and Slattery keep getting named in the emergencies, I suspect they’re the best blind options to take at the moment.
i’d go maguire—>Roberton
Yeah he should get a few games with Freos new injuries.
cheers boys. my first post but love all your work!
Dunno bout that. Headland and Ibbotson are our only 2 injured players at the moment, everyone else is coming back through the WAFL.
I’d go for sheppard from eagles mate. He was close to a callup last wk and was best on ground in wafl with 29 touches in the midfield. Should come in for Brett jones or masten
id be inclined to agree. Id take sheppard over roberton.
Also because sheppard had hype pre season and roberton didnt.
Seriously stuck on if i should get hargrave or not??? he has a BE of like 42 so hes only going to go up but will he average well this year?? last year was his only good year….who has jumped on hargrave and for what reason?
Reckon i’ll jump…his a top player, should average high 70′s or low 80′s for rest of the year. Supposedly was carrying injuries earlier on, so reason for poor performances.
You would be wanting him to average mid 80′s at least imo!!!!
I bet the Chad out-averages him
Why does everyone care about oh his price is gonna go up? if ur getting him now then ur getting him as a keeper, you dont make real life $$ off your investment lol!
im not happy with boyd and mitchell, and still not sure if they will play this weekend? If they dont should i trade one of them for swan??
Why would you trade Boyd?
Just wondering peoples thoughts on Waters. Is he downgrade material next week for Roberton, is he a straight swap for Hargrave, or is he a keeper? He’s scored well, made a nice amount of $$, but im not sure if he’s a “keeper”
Yeah i don’t consider him a keeper, roughly his BE is 51 and he scored 49 last week!!!…..him goin straight swap for Hargrave.
I can see where youre going with that Seamo, I’m going to take a more cautious approach, Nason will be the one to upgrade in my backline. I have Waters, Kennelly, and Maguire, given that they all are performing pretty well (excluding one or two performances) I am going to hang on to them just incase one gets injured which will make my upgrade decision for me. I am worried about pulling the trigger now and have someone else go down in a heap next week! :)
Not sure Waters to Hargrave is good move. Wot are you expecting Hargrave to average for rest of year?????
Waters just over 80 at moment, Hargrave would need to be WELL over that to make it a worthwhile trade. IMO he would need to average at least 95 or more 2 even be close to worth trading for Waters……………..
Thoughts????
obviously it depends on the rest of your backline. if waters is your 7th back and averaging 80+… im sure there are more urgent weak points in your team for now. hargrave has had 1 good score in a game where the ball was chipped around the bullies backline/midfield for 3/4 of it… to be fair hargrave should have been joining gia and gilbee with 150+.
stick with waters, he will match hargrave (if not outscore him) for the rest of the reason. he is more important in the eagles structure and they always look for him coming out of their defensive 50
I’m more than happy with Beau as my 7th back for most of the year…. he’s still got money to make, and apart from last week has been ripping it up.
Plus at a party once here in Perth he walked into the house and put his hand in the fish bowl, grabbed the fish and ate it… Legend.
Surely people have more pressing issues than upgrading Waters already. He’s averaging 80+, you’re better off working on other areas where you are weaker and if you have trades left alter in the season thene you can make a move. Even if you are after the swap to Hargrave they have similar breakevens so will be able to do next week and get another chacne to see if Hargrave has actually tunred it around. The dogs backs all racked up points agasint St Kilda because of the game style.
Waters has still got more money to make and he has been great this year. Last week he was used as a forward tag for a large aprt of the game.
With masten gone, he’s a sure thing to be running in the midifled like he did 2 weeks ago where he scored 115!
I heard Waters walked into the toilet at the party where someone had just had a dump and a spew, fished out a turd and ate it. Funny how stories get changed depending on where you live. I believe the toilet one myself not being from Coco Cousin ville.
Hahaha i diffenitly gettin rid of him so!!!
just wondering if rockliffs done as in no more games for the lad? i dislike no fwd bench cover
Ripped it up in a 30 goal win for the 2nds, but so did lot of other guys. He should get some more games, but whether he ever gets an extended run in the 1sts is the million dollar question
Waters is averaging 80 and plays in a backline that likes to over possess the ball so should continue to get decent scores, why trade him out? Surely he is not the worst performing in ur team.
The rookie downgrade cupboard is looking bare with cash cows about to ripen…disappointed I held off trading Hams in last week. Might have to get Howlett like 20,000 others.
Are there any DEF/MID rookies/cheap players, I want to move Carrazzo into my backline?
WHY DONT YOU READ THE POST – THAT IS WHAT THIS POST IS FOR… FOOL.
WHY DONT YOU BRING IN LEWIS JETTA?
Can anyone with a thick Adelaide accent and teal blood flowing through their veins give me an update on that DT slut Mitch Banner?? Was he just a pre-season tease and continue to rot on my mids bench??
Mitch Banner (for Eagles v West @ Woodville) – Played mainly forward and had a reasonable day but didn’t finish off some of his good work with goals, kicking 0.3. Moved onto the ball in the final quarter and had a good impact at stoppages. Finished with 12 kicks, 4 handballs and 3 tackles
He wont be coming to Melbourne this weekend then!!!
Thanks for the info, I guess I will wait to see if Howlett gets selected or not.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Howlett a rookie? Looking at Essendon’s injury list the worst off is Dyson who is out for 4-6 weeks. Anyone fancy taking a baseball bat into the Bombers dressing room this week? Need some LTI’s.
I’m pretty sure he was the token upgraded rookie at the start of the season.
Fletcher is a veteren. Which means extra spot for a rookie upgrade before the season started.
I have Danger still and gumbyh on pine – should I trade him out opr hang on
HAHAHAH YOUR TEAM IS FUCKED
Johnson, you are what the French call ‘le douchebag’.
i have them both on the pine and not worried one bit, i like to see your team johnson you tosser
I LOL’ed
wanker
Danger will be back soon and Gumby is starting to score well
Need to deal with Seaby this week. Will free up some cash with a Martin/Scully downgrade to Howlett. If Howlett isn’t picked, Maguire down to Ashton “Spiderpig” Hams is the go.
have these 3 rookies moles jkt and shuey, one will have to go for howlett if named?
which one do you think guys? mitchell is looking like a zero for me aswell cheers boysss
jtk is still playing, moles has a spectacular breakeven so not worth selling and shuey won’t net you enoguh money. as long as you’re not copping a zero. leave it.
probably will be with mitchell not back thi week, let hope 2 of them get named haha cheers mate
I’d dump Shuey out of those, JKT (if he gets a game) will have more upside, and I think Shuey might be out for a long time (look how long that 1-2 weeks has lasted already!
fyfe or grant? cox or sandi?
Yeah also interested in peoples thoughts on fyfe vs grant, both in scoring potential and job security. This has been doing my head in for like 2 days now.
I can see Grant getting a few more games but when push comes to shove, something like their round 3 team is probably what they’re aiming to have on the park for the finals. He might be a good cow in the meantime though.
If Fyfe can keep kicking goals, he’s safe. Headland’s LTI means there’s no experienced player waiting to come in to take that role in the team. The downside is relying on a rookie forward’s form being consistent, of course.
I don’t think either of them is a good enough bet to be worth cashing in Gumby, Duncan or Pods early. Most likely I’m going to upgrade Gumby next week to Jonno Brown, and move Duncan to the bench.
This article is useless, thanks for nothing. Btw you have a shite team.
you are a flog
Is Shuey likely to get a game once he’s back from injury??
life is looking gd for DT this wk trade out waite if not selected to goddard and trade nason down to schimdt followed by rohan (dunno y i picked him up) up to chapman and still have 100ish grand in the bank to hopefully trade ball up to abett but sit back nd watch my dream team carve up :D
after all tyhat i will have 10 trades for the rest of the season to use on injurys
but that keeps kennely and waters as keepers that im not to fond of hopefully banner nd hitchcock get some games ndprices rises some more so i can get some good deals…. that puits me down to 6 trades for 12 rounds of footy
Goddard BE of 146 this week.
give a f**k he ain’t goin anywhere
is it worth (providing he gets a game)
trading out lucas for howlett ?
Get Gilbee (BE -1) this week or Goddard (BE 147) next week?
Goddard probs in two weeks
What about down grading Seaby to Roughead and making some cash, I still Have Warnock on my bench and if I want to upgrade Seaby I will need to trade and make some cash 1st….
Its risky but it could pay off, Wat you boys think????
Looking to downgrade Bastinac and upgrade Ziebell any options? Basti BE is 68 and Ziebell is 74 don’t think either of them will make it and Basti has peaked. Bastinac->Rookie, Ziebell->Premium keeper. Help please?
Anyone got any idea if and when relton roberts from richmond might get a game? Dunno if I should get off him and onto fyfe or grant. Or should I hold onto him in hope he’ll get a run later?
You can please yourself. Roberts is my team mascot. He’ll never play on my field and unless a bizarre miracle occurs, he won’t be going up in price enough to sell, but he’s a funny looking f**ker and the boys seem to like him. I’m happy with one backup forward (esp. with a total of 4 forward/mids in my mix, two on each line), and plenty of cash cows and upgrade options elsewhere. If he’s worth a sideways trade in your team, you’re in deep shit IMO
Rumour is that Garry Rohan will make his debut this weekend
Who should I put on the field out of Trengove, Martin and Howlett?