
Player | Tim English |
Club | Western Bulldogs |
Position | RUC |
Price | $901,000 |
Bye | Round 15 |
2022 avg | 101.8 |
2022 gms | 15 |
Proj. avg | 108 |
Draft range | 1st or 2nd RUC |
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Why should I pick him?
After taking a massive leap in production last year, Tim English enters the season as the best fantasy ruckman in the comp. Some prefer the value Rowan Marshall presents, some coaches are even rocking both in their starting ruck rotation. However, there’s no doubt that his 2022 production gave us an insight into what we can expect from English for years to come.
At 25 years old, the ascending Bulldog is just getting rolling. He finished last year with the 2nd best points average for ruckmen, narrowly losing the crown to Max Gawn and we all know about the injury issues that derailed English’s season. Being restricted to just 15 games saw him end the fantasy campaign behind the likes of Oscar McInerney and Todd Goldstein for total points – finishing as the 11th best RUC. Even though he wasn’t able to hit the park every week, English still made his presence felt when he was in Dogs colours, recording 10 triple-figure scores and emerging as one of the best fantasy players on offer.
What helps English’s scoring rate is his ability to amass stats outside of hitouts. In 2022, there were 13 other ruckmen who averaged more hitouts than the Dogs’ go-to-tall, but he trailed on Gawn for disposals (18.1) and marks per game (5.4) out of every ruckman in the AFL. There’s no reason why English won’t, at worst, maintain those averages again this season, with a realistic chance he enhances those stats and pushes his average north of 110. The presence of Rory Lobb and potentially Jordan Sweet at times could impact the scores we see English produce, but in my eyes, he’s proven that he can still accumulate even when he’s not at the starting bounce.
Ruckmen usually take a few years longer to develop compared to their shorter footy peers, and as he gears up for his 7th year in the AFL, it’s appropriate to think we could witness the best season of English’s career in 2023. He has a long way to go to reach this comparison, but watching him play reminds me of former Eagle Dean Cox, another player who impacted the game in multiple facets – racking up possessions for fun and producing some eye-popping fantasy scores along the way. I can see a world where English chalks up 20+ touches a game in the upcoming season, and we look back on this year as the start of his tenure atop the AFL Fantasy ruckman depth chart.
Why shouldn’t I pick him?
The fact that Tim English hasn’t been able to play a full season since arriving at the Kennel is worth acknowledging. Making matters worse, concussion issues have been prevalent throughout his career so far, and you can imagine the AFL will only get stricter when it comes to the criteria a player must meet before returning from a head knock. A hamstring was the reason that English missed a month of footy last April and when you’re investing in a player worth over $900K, you want to be able to trust them to feature on a weekly basis.
English also enters the new season as the most expensive ruckman in fantasy. While that won’t have an impact on Draft leagues, those coaches who are purely motivated by chasing a shiny new Toyota may want to deploy their cash elsewhere. Starting Rowan Marshall over English will save you close to $100K, with Jarrod Witts ($100K cheaper), Darcy Cameron ($176K cheaper), Scott Lycett ($279K cheaper) or even Sam Draper ($377K cheaper!!) other options that free up a ton of cash. Having those $$$ up your sleeve and waiting for the right time to pounce on English is a move that has merit, especially following Rory Lobb’s arrival at Footscray.
While he’ll be primarily used as a forward, Lobb did a serviceable job playing second fiddle to Sean Darcy last year at Freo. He averaged seven hitouts a game to go with a career-best haul of 36 goals and he’ll now look to play a similar role with the Dogs. Lobb won’t eat significantly into the ruck workload, but he isn’t the only threat to English’s throne. Jordan Sweet stepped up and became R1 for the Bulldogs as English struggled to stay fit, scoring a decent 61.3 points from 6 games. With his deal set to expire at the end of 2023, I could see the Bulldogs throwing Sweet a bone and giving him a few games, perhaps even with English still in the lineup – it happened twice last season.
Every fantasy coach expects Tim English to finish as one of the top 2/3 fantasy rucks in the game this season, but can he replicate his 100+ average? There’s value to be had in the ruck department, and with a lot of coaches adopting a ‘set and forget’ strategy with Rowan Marshall and English, it might be wise to go against the norm.
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I feel comfortable saying that Tim English will average more points than any other ruckman this season. That doesn’t mean he’ll score more points than any ruck, with his durability a slight concern. Still, English is only 85 games into his career and hasn’t quite mastered his ruck craft yet. It would be foolish to expect him to go backwards providing he has a clean bill of health and Rory Lobb wasn’t recruited to eat into English’s ruck load. He starting at R1 for me and I’m confident he can average over 20 disposals and 105 fantasy points in season 2023.
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Rory Lobb will help Timmy’s scoring if anything. Lobb means Sweet will be unneeded, so English should keep an 80/20 split with Lobb, unlike the 60/40 that happened with Sweet.
I tend to agree, I don’t think his presence will hurt English’s scoring too much
English is a gun player, it’s not his height and size which gets him a game like most other rucks, he has genuinely elite skills and a good footy brain but now also seems to have the size needed also after starting way too skinny.
Well worth the money I reckon, both in real life where I’d expect him to be a million dollars a year player for his next contract and in fantasy where he’s likely a lock for the next 7-8 years.
I agree 100%, his skills around the ground are unreal for a ruckman
Over four seasons Tim has played 78% of games, missing nearly 5 a season. He will score really well when he plays but I hate the hassle of dealing with injured / missing rucks so am probably going to pass.
That’s not all due to injury though, granted last year wasn’t ideal but for the potential reward I’m willing to bank on him finally having an AFL body at last to go with his talent.
That’s definitely a factor to consider, he doesn’t have the best track record of durability
Not playing a full season ever make it a risky choice and most likely a sideways trade if he misses.
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If he’s the most expensive ruck and sideways trade could see you pocket $50-$100K. You’re right though, it’s risky…
At least you should be able to get any other ruck in the event he does get injured which helps mitigate the risk a bit.
Damn, He is a player I picked in my team since this game opened this year. For the amount of money he is I don’t think I’ll have him in my team. Rvery year it seems to be Rucks that are a problem. I think D Cameron left the field the other week when the Pies were training, but I’m willing to go Marshall and Cameron in Ruck and leave Meek as my interchange. I’m looking at generating some cash at the start of the year this year. If Milera has a good Pre-season then it’s up to him and McLean for my F5.
Using D.Cameron and Marshall instead of English is a good alternative! Especially if you get a non-rookie at F5
English with hamstring issues.
Sitting out a match sim one month out from the season isn’t a huge worry, but it does highlight his inferior durability…
Should I start with either English or Marshall or save the $$$ and get either 1 or 2 of Lycett, Draper or Meek? Thoughts on ROB also would be appreciated.
In an ideal world where Speakano’s body could withstand the rigours of footy, a set and forget combination of both these players would be ideal. I currently have both of them, but the risk of English snapping means that I might have to choose a value option. Out of the three you mention, I would go Lycett, who will solo ruck and has some hope of scoring, unlike Draper who will run through, score a goal and spend the rest of the game celebrating how good he and his mullett are. If Meek wins a solo ruck role at the Hawks, every man, women, child and pet dog/cat will be putting him in their side. Unfortunately, that is looking unlikely. ROB, like Witts, will average what he is priced at – ROB will just go through a more round about way of getting that average, while you can count on Witts being consistent.
Cheers, That helps as right now I have Lycett and Meek. But might upgrade Meek to Marshall as wasn’t too sure if Meek will be a starter or not
the R1 battle of Hawks is probably going to be a week to week scenario, sort of like Essendon with Draper, Phillips & Bryan, none of them are able to solidify their spot.. Meek might get the gig early, but not entirely confident that he’ll hold onto it..
English is probably the only safe 100+ option atm..
Gawn + Grundy is uncertain how it plays out, Marshall could be shifted FWD at times with all Saints injuries, ROB was clunking too many marks last year so 90+ seems to be his range (for now), Witts would need 50+ HOs a game and Preuss gives away too many free kicks..
At the moment I have English and Lycett, but I could see why people would rather go Marshall over Tim. Personally, I think there’s a bit of value up for grabs in the ruck department – so picking either Marsh/English and one of those value choices is a good play
English tracking well after injury. Did laps and light skills today. Scans cleared him of a strain