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  1. Aby Benny

    May 2, 2021 at 8:04 pm

    Frederick or Byrnes?

    • CalebDaniel23

      May 2, 2021 at 9:42 pm

      I can help with that. Wait for Warnie to give you his trades then pick the opposite one. The fact fantasy ‘expert’ is written on his twitter bio is an embarrassment to the word expert.

      • Go Dees

        May 2, 2021 at 10:17 pm

        i think this site would be better off without comments like yours….Why bother coming here? #troll

        • Blood Brothers

          May 2, 2021 at 10:47 pm


        • CalebDaniel23

          May 2, 2021 at 11:06 pm

          If Warnie and the guys put fantasy comedians or pundits or fantasy content creators they would have zero ‘trolls’ because in fairness they are quiet funny.

          Seeing Warnie panic for no reason and trade out players like Bergman (when he hasn’t raised any value at the time) and bring in guys like Finlay Macrae and give out on twitter (thinking people actually care) is really funny. Seeing Warnies heart breaking when Tom Mitchell on his podcast saying he outgrew fantasy is the funniest thing this year.

          The podcast overall is also funny. Just remove the word ‘expert’ from their twitter bio’s, because I think they even now they are starting to get that they are not experts.

          If you call yourself and expert and you are anything but, you will get criticism. Especially from serious players looking for advice and not comedy.

          • Truther

            May 2, 2021 at 11:12 pm

            Nice rant. But you’re not a serious player, you’re just a jerk with tall poppy syndrome. Go start your own podcast, and let us know when you do so we can avoid it

            • CalebDaniel23

              May 3, 2021 at 5:18 am

              Not a rant. 110% facts. But (in a way) you are right.

              Moerira’s magic is an expert BUT he would bore paint drying. The traders are funny but VERY average, yet call themselves experts. If someone can gain the middle ground, there is a podcast there.

              For years I’ve thought of doing a podcast but stopped because the Traders were handed a monopoly with AFL. Why? Right place, right time? How knows..

              • Sir Bobby

                May 3, 2021 at 6:03 am

                Not “handed a monopoly” champ, they built one.

                Pull your finger out and do the same. We’re all waiting.

              • Truther

                May 3, 2021 at 8:40 am

                I bet you love the smell of your own farts.
                Again, nice rant. And still none of us care

  2. Marc Russell

    May 2, 2021 at 8:06 pm

    Was Josh Kelly playing midfield against the Crows?

    • Phteven

      May 2, 2021 at 10:21 pm

      Looked like wing

  3. James

    May 2, 2021 at 9:07 pm

    Pick 1


    • Dave

      May 2, 2021 at 9:11 pm

      RCD if picked

    • CalebDaniel23

      May 2, 2021 at 9:43 pm

      Byrnes. People will jump on RCD because of the role but this is Dow 2.0. Avoid.

  4. Tony

    May 2, 2021 at 9:15 pm

    Rank:Walsh,T.Miller,T.Mitchell, Ellis

    • Oscar Pino

      May 3, 2021 at 10:40 am

      Mitchell, Walsh, Miller, Ellis

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:03 pm

      Ellis, Mitchell, Walsh, Miller for me. Very close between them.

  5. Eddy

    May 2, 2021 at 9:17 pm

    Is Pendlebury a good pickup at $704k? Up against North this week and has the Round 14 bye

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:05 pm

      He’s still losing money…I don’t mind it but I’d prefer to go with someone who’s making you money like Hall.

  6. Nathan Grant

    May 2, 2021 at 9:21 pm

    Josh Kelly was on wing against Sholl

  7. Stimpy

    May 2, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    Kelly..or Sidebum?

  8. Nathan Grant

    May 2, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    Titch just ahead of Walsh then maybe Miller then Ellis

  9. Jag67

    May 2, 2021 at 9:28 pm

    Too early to jump on Whitfield?

    • Jonesinator17

      May 2, 2021 at 9:31 pm

      i don’t think so scoring wise, my only concern is do they need to manage him? If he plays he won’t drop much in price.

      • Jag67

        May 2, 2021 at 9:37 pm

        Cheers. Didn’t think about the managing side.

    • Stimpy

      May 2, 2021 at 9:46 pm

      120 b/e wait a week

  10. HG34

    May 2, 2021 at 9:33 pm

    1: Tex and Fantasia to Kelly and Hall
    2: Rowe and Gulden to RCD (bench) and Ellis/Titch

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:07 pm

      I like 2 more but Tex and Fantasia are losing serious cash now. Think you’ve got to go 1.

  11. Nathan Grant

    May 2, 2021 at 9:40 pm

    Jiath & Gulden for either Ziebell or Titch & then Frederick or Byrnes?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:10 pm

      Think there are better options than Ziebell or Titch. I really like Brandon Ellis, he’s been so consistent. As for rookie, Frederick seems safer but that’s what we thought about Farrar. Byrnes will make you more money if he plays (which he’s not guaranteed).

  12. llizardofoz

    May 2, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    2046 =rd rank circa 1650.
    and well done Calvin.

  13. Ryan

    May 2, 2021 at 9:53 pm

    Jake Kelly (674l) or Cunnington (598k)

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:24 pm

      Kelly has a higher ceiling and will perhaps be consistently scoring tons if his role change is permanent, but you’d be taking a risk because his role could change again. Cunnington has Collingwood this week and has a solid chance of going 120+ again. Both have R12 bye (the bye teams tend to have A LOT of players missing in). I’d personally go Kelly if you don’t have to sacrifice anything to get to him.

  14. Pappy

    May 2, 2021 at 9:57 pm

    Currently ranked 794 any advice on what i should do?
    39k in bank.

    Laird, Doch, Sholl, Cummung, Markov, C.J ( Frederick, Highmore)
    Merrett, TT, Walsh, Gaff, Trealor, N.Anderson, Powell, Jordan ( F.Macrae, Brockman)
    Grundy, Gawn (Flynn)
    Hind, Phillips, Warner, Fantasia, Bergman, Robertson ( Kozi, McCreery)

    Chopping block is Fanta, Phillip, CJ due to high breakeven.
    Don’t want to go from 5 on field rookies to 6 also.

    Any Suggestions???

    • Belly

      May 2, 2021 at 10:18 pm

      CJ out and field Frederick, flick Kozi back and Brockman to Fwd bench and get RCD in mid.
      Then take Fantasia up to Zorko if you can if not Sidey/Kelly/Impey.

      • Blood Brothers

        May 2, 2021 at 10:53 pm

        That’s pretty impressive, well-considered advice! Kudos Belly.
        And perfectly illustrates the hot shoe shuffle that can be done with DDP.

      • Brian Smith

        May 3, 2021 at 12:06 am

        I would flick Phillips first – he hasn’t hit his b/e this year, Fanta has at least done that much – twice, so might do it again. If you want to save some cash, consider Bolton – high average, low b/e.

    • Squid

      May 3, 2021 at 12:29 pm

      I would just keep on doing whatever it is you’re doing and hoping like hell you continue to dodge the carnage that keeps on rolling around on a weekly basis for some. Well done so far.

  15. Nathan Grant

    May 2, 2021 at 9:58 pm

    Lloyd, Laird, Doc, Cumming, Jiath, Idun (Kozzie, Highmore)
    Macrae, Merrett, Taranto, Walsh, Parish, Sholl, Powell, Jordon (Scott, Brockman)
    Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
    Hind, Gulden, Warner, Bergman, Robertson, Macrae (Campbell, Jones)
    Thinking bringing in either Titch & Frederick or Ziebell & Byrnes for Jiath & Gulden.
    Leaning towards Titch & Frederick, what you guys think.

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:32 pm

      I think your bench needs fixing. I’d do Campbell -> Frederick/RCD/Byrnes via DPP. If you take a MID for Campbell you can DPP with Powell and get F.Macrae off field. That gives you enough to upgrade one of Gulden or Jiath. Could probably get to Kelly from one of them.

      I’m just not a big fan of you splitting two on-field options and getting another rookie on field when you still have F.Macrae there. Just generate the cash from downgrading Campbell, and you get a solid green dot for bench cover too.

      Your suggestion seems more appealing but you’ve got to think about long term cash generation.

  16. Jezza

    May 2, 2021 at 11:34 pm

    Cunnington or hall?

  17. Musca

    May 2, 2021 at 11:55 pm

    Lloyd, ziebell, daniel, short, Cumming, cox
    ( kochitzke, idun)
    Mccrea, Merritt Taranto, Walsh, Powell, Jordan, gulden, mccrea
    ( Campbell, brockman)
    Gawn, Grundy
    Walker, t Phillips, t Phillips, Warner, Bergman, Robertson
    ( Jones, Rowe)
    Ult- meek
    57k in bank
    What moves should I make next? Think Rex is a must

    • Musca

      May 2, 2021 at 11:56 pm

      Tex sorry

    • Brian Smith

      May 3, 2021 at 12:10 am

      Yep, Tex out first, Bolton is a good option, or Fyfe/ Kelly (GWS) if you can reach that far. Then either Brockman to cash or Phillips sideways.

      • Musca

        May 3, 2021 at 7:42 am

        Was thinking Tex to j Kelly and Campbell to collier- Dawkins then leaves me 185k in bank to do a one up one down trade next week involving T Phillips.

  18. Jeff

    May 2, 2021 at 11:56 pm

    Def: Laird, short, Sholl, Fanta, berg, kozi (High, burg)
    Mid: Mac, zert, TT, Trel, Fyfe, crouch, powell, jordan (Scott, brock)
    Ruck: Grundy, Gawn (Flynn)
    Fwds: Step, Phillips, gulden, Warner, Farrar, Macrae (Rowe, Lazzaro)

    Looking to do gulden to hall and Brockman to byrns for money

    Money : 70k

    • Brian Smith

      May 3, 2021 at 12:12 am

      I’d trade Rowe before Brockman

      • Jezza

        May 3, 2021 at 12:26 am

        Why? Brockman isn’t playing
        Rowe is good for the bench

        • The Cricket

          May 3, 2021 at 1:47 pm

          Rowe is not good for your bench. Scores are poor and his price is dropping. (Also, he may be due for a rest and be dropped.)
          Offload him now.

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:38 pm

      Don’t mind it. I’d rather have Byrnes on field than Macrae so I’d DPP via Fyfe to do that.

  19. Brody

    May 3, 2021 at 12:03 am

    DEF: Laird, Stewart, Ridley, Daniel, Markov, Fantasia (Sharp, Jones)
    MID: Merrett, Taranto, Walsh, Bont, Parish, Fyfe, Jordon, RCD (Campbell, Brockman)
    RUC: Gawn, Bryan (Flynn, Treacy)
    FWD: Phillips, Hind, Powell, Warner, Bergman, Koschitzke (Macrae, Waterman)
    $405k to play with

    Have 3 Options in mind, would love some feedback legends!

    A) Jones & Brockman -> Lloyd/Crisp/Sidebottom & Byrnes (Fanta & Kosi DPP switch, Lloyd on field for Kosi)
    B) Sharp & Flynn -> Byrnes & Marshall (Marshall on field for Kosi & have ruck insurance for Bryan)
    C) Flynn & Jordon -> Marshall & Daicos (5 rooks on field, unsure if I Daicos if worth it and if I should keep Jordon through byes)

    Would love any feedback cheers fellas!

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:41 pm

      I like B, Sharp is just dead weight because he probably won’t get any more games. Campbell is also a lot of money to just have sitting there, I’d want to be getting rid of him soon.

    • The Cricket

      May 3, 2021 at 1:58 pm

      Fix up your bench.
      Offload rookies who are not generating cash or who’re not playing and unlikely to play again any time soon. Campbell, Sharp, Waterman etc.
      Keep an eye on Jones’s recovery – maybe hold him cos he will probably be selected again once he’s fit

  20. Matteo

    May 3, 2021 at 12:12 am

    Sam Walsh or Tom Mitchell?

    • Jezza

      May 3, 2021 at 12:29 am

      Sam Walsh he’s everywhere

  21. Brian Smith

    May 3, 2021 at 12:18 am

    I’m planning two sideways: Tex to Bolton & T.Phillips to Parish, but that still leaves me with Fanta, Gulden on field for another two weeks, and no cash. So next week has to be a double downgrade. Is that too risky? Do I stick with Phillips in order to drop a bench (like Brockman) for more cash?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:42 pm

      Stick with T.Phillips, Fantasia and Gulden are higher priorities anyway.

  22. Jezza

    May 3, 2021 at 12:31 am

    Stick with Phillips for one more week and fix up brockman and flick tex to Josh kelly, parish, Cunnington or hall

  23. Lemmy

    May 3, 2021 at 1:35 am

    Getting annoyed with Zac Williams twice now he has been out due to soreness. I know he has those 80’s but twice he has dropped I can’t take another week of wondering if he is gonna play or not I think I am just gonna pull the pin on him and trade him down to a rookie like Martin Frederick. Williams plays on Sunday again this weekend so I am sure all my trades would be used up before Saturday 6:25pm
    So far my trades could look like
    Williams to Frederick
    Gulden to another premo

    • Kent

      May 3, 2021 at 9:26 am

      I agree Williams is frustrating… similar thoughts to you.

      I’m considering a big drop from Williams to RCD so I can get cash to upgrade Brockman to Fyfe.

      OR if I went Frederick instead I can only afford a Bolton/Impey. Decisions?!

      • Blood Brothers

        May 3, 2021 at 9:49 am

        It’s comforting knowing others are going through the same pain…. :-(
        It’s also tempting to sideways Williams to Daniels who is $8k cheaper and probably more likely to ton up on any given week, but alas, I have more pressing issues with non-playing rookies and other juicer fallen premos I’ve got my eyes on.

        • Kent

          May 3, 2021 at 10:13 am

          Feel free to share some of these juicy fallen premos ;)

  24. Justin Stitchup

    May 3, 2021 at 6:36 am

    Thilthorpe or Jesse Hogan?

    • crom

      May 3, 2021 at 8:59 am


    • Ashely

      May 3, 2021 at 11:41 am

      Neither if you can avoid, but would be leaning towards Hogan as a more mature body he won’t tire as quickly so should play more games. That being said, if you are going to use the cash difference between the two to get to an uber premium or a undervalued premium, that may change the scenario in Thilthorpes favour.

  25. Craig

    May 3, 2021 at 7:49 am

    Hardwick and phillips to macrae and fredrick 49k cap thoughts ?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:43 pm

      I like it.

  26. Brucey Don't Like Rusty

    May 3, 2021 at 8:13 am

    Titch & Frederick
    Duncan & Murray?

    • Ben

      May 3, 2021 at 8:18 am

      option 1 will give you more consistency. Frederick also has a more safe spot in his side.

  27. Ben

    May 3, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Thoughts On

    Tex> Hall
    Dusty> J.Kelly
    100k in bank?

  28. Jacob

    May 3, 2021 at 8:37 am

    Back: Laird, Docherty, Stewart, Williams, Cumming, Jiath (Idun, Fredrick)
    Mid: Merrett, Taranto, Walsh, Anderson, Serong, Gulden, Powell, Jordan (McRae, Campbell)
    Ruck: Grundy, Flynn (Treacy)
    Forward: Ziebell, Phillips, Hind, Warner, Robertson, Farrar (Kozi, Rowe)
    Util: Brockman
    If anyone has any tips they would be greatly appreciated. I was considering downgrading one of my more expensive underperformers such as CJ, Williams, Serong and Phillips to a rookie and then upgrading Flynn to Gawn. Another option that I have is upgrading a rookie like Gulden to a premo and downgrading another. Any help is greatly appreciated!

  29. Crom

    May 3, 2021 at 8:45 am

    Who is the best defender to replace CJ with?
    Don’t want Ziebell or Whitfield

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:45 pm

      Aaron Hall.

  30. Blood Brothers

    May 3, 2021 at 9:32 am

    Who do we think, RCD or Byrnes?
    It’s a question of JS, as I think they’ll both pump out ~60s, but that’s exactly what you want from a cash cow generating on the pine. But they need to be playing to be going up in value….

    • Cam

      May 3, 2021 at 9:51 am

      Who goes first, Tex or Gulden?(other one goes next week). And which premo mid to bring in? Already have Merrett, Macrae, Titch Taranto

      • Cam

        May 3, 2021 at 9:52 am

        Sorry didn’t mean to do that as a reply

    • Kent

      May 3, 2021 at 10:11 am

      Keen to know this too! RCD perhaps in while Cotch is out with a hammy, not sure about Brynes’ situation though at the saints.

    • Ashley

      May 3, 2021 at 11:36 am

      I don’t know the Byrnes situation well, but I don’t trust RCD’s JS purely due to playing for Richmond – they are hit with injuries, but who knows how long he will play for, and he could be one bad game away from being dropped.

  31. JT & Frenchy, Gangsta Boyz

    May 3, 2021 at 10:00 am

    Jelly + $$ or Brayshaw?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:46 pm

      Kelly for me.

  32. Cody

    May 3, 2021 at 10:53 am

    Def: Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Cumming, Chapman, Burgess(Kosi, Highmore)
    Mid: Zerret, Taranto, Walsh, Treloar, Brayshaw(andy), Scholl, Powell, Jordon( Macrae, Mead)
    Fwd: Stephenson, Phillips, Hind, Gulden, Bergman, Farrar( Cahill, Treacy)
    I have absolutely 0 clue what to do this week. Was thinking abt lycett to gawn but might give that one more week now. Could also go someone like a gulden up to a jk bc he has his wing back but he also has the first bye round. Any thoughts?

    • Ashley

      May 3, 2021 at 11:34 am

      I’d be looking at Gulden going out, he won’t be generating any more cash and could go down to Atu, or the like for cash generation. Without knowing the cash on hand or your ruck situation, I would also be looking at Macrae and completing the G&G ruck combination as soon as you can.

      • Cody O'Brien

        May 3, 2021 at 11:51 am

        currently got 300k in the bank without doing anything. Might wait a week on gawn but not sure what else to do

        • Ashley

          May 3, 2021 at 3:30 pm

          If you have 300k in the bank, I’d be going to Gawn – whilst his BE is high, Lycett’s is also high. With that said, Gawn is more likely to hit a 150+ than Lycett is to hit a 110+. After that trade, might be worth looking a Highmore to Frederick – would get Burgess off your field.

  33. Ashley

    May 3, 2021 at 11:32 am

    D: Laird, Stewart, Docherty, Cumming, Hind, Idun (Burgess, Koschitzke)
    M: Oliver, Merrett, J Macrae, Taranto, S Berry, Powell, Perkins, Jordon (F Macrae, Campbell)
    R: Gawn, Grundy (Flynn)
    F: Phillips, Farrar, Fantasia, Bergman, Rowe, Warner (Martin, Jones)
    U: Meek
    Cash: 186k

    Martin must go, and one of Campbell, Rowe or S Berry (or even Fantasia) this week. I am currently thinking of a midfielder and Byrnes, Frederick or Bosenavulagi. Any thoughts on this?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:51 pm

      Campbell -> RCD/Byrnes/Frederick and Martin -> any premium you like. Gets Berry and Rowe off field.

  34. K

    May 3, 2021 at 11:39 am

    Leaning towards 3. And get rid of Brockman/another rook for a 1 up/1 down.

    1. Williams & Brockman – RCD & Fyfe
    2. Williams & Gulden – Frederick & Fyfe plus 160k
    3. Williams & Gulden – Daniels & Perkins (or Thilthorpe) plus 100-150k

  35. K

    May 3, 2021 at 11:40 am

    * Meant to say: And get rid of Brockman/another rook for a 1 up/1 down NEXT week.

  36. Mad Fish

    May 3, 2021 at 11:51 am

    Trading Fantasia to anyone except Macrae, who is the best pic? Have got both Gawn and Grundy already.

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:52 pm

      I really like Ellis but you might want to consider Merrett or Walsh due to byes.

  37. B

    May 3, 2021 at 11:57 am

    Thoughts On

    Tex> Hall
    Dusty> J.Kelly
    100k in bank?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 12:53 pm

      I like it.

  38. James

    May 3, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Currently ranked 1,297 any advice on what i should do?
    30k in bank.

    Ziebell, Laird, Short, Hind, Cumming, C.J ( L.Jones, Prior)
    Macrae, Merrett, TT, Walsh, Titch, Powell, Gulden, Jordan ( Scott, Ronin O’Connor)
    Grundy, McEvoy (Flynn)
    Kelly, Stevo, Warner, Kosi, Farrar, F.Macrae ( Rowe, Brockman)

    Chopping block is Gulden, CJ, and all average shitty rooks.
    Worried about the weaknesses in the team forced to play like Kosi or Macrae.

    Any Suggestions???

    • Cam

      May 3, 2021 at 2:03 pm

      double downgrade Rowe and Brockman to RCD and Byrnes, put Gulden and Powell forward and get Macrae and Kosi off field and play RCD and Byrnes on field and downgrade flynn and upgrade mcevoy to Gawn next week

  39. Horto

    May 3, 2021 at 1:03 pm

    Already have Stephenson and Powell. Looking to bring in Aaron Hall and maybe Cunnington. Is that too many North players and should I stick to just bringing Hall in?

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      Should be starting to take a look at your bye structure. North have the R12 bye which is the bye that most teams seem to have the most outs for. Currently, 16/30 of my team has the R12 bye. If you’re in a similar position you should probably be looking to get players with the R13/R14 byes in instead (Heppell, any of the Dogs, Sidebottom, Fyfe are a few names you could look at).

      It’s super annoying that Hall, Kelly, Cunnington, Drew all have the R12 bye.

  40. Bill

    May 3, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    Tex to Taranto.

    Gulden to: Poulter, Collier-Dawson, or Byrnes?

    (Who do you think has the best job security?)

    • Ethan F

      May 3, 2021 at 2:08 pm

      Probably RCD since Cotchin is injured. Byrnes should be fine too, not confident on Poulter.

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