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The Milkmen Review – Round 1

Making sure you have the right cash cows is what this week’s trades are all about. The Milkmen get you sorted.

With only 9 rookies scoring over 70 points in round 1, it’s going to be rare that all the rookies performed for your team. However, it would be rough for us to expect such high scores from all of our rooks so early on and it seems scores of 60 are the new par score. The season is long and remember to only remove those rookies you had high hopes for one week ago, if you have missed out on one of the key rookies who performed discussed below.

Here was our take on how all the rookies performed in Round 1.

Those That Matter (A.K.A any Rookie that Played in Round 1)

The biggest name in the first game of the season from a rookie perspective was¬†Paddy Dow¬†(Mid. $271,000, 36 BE). Despite having multiple stints in the midfield, Dow, was still only able to put together¬†47 points and that was largely thanks to the 5 tackles he had. If you have Paddy in your team I’m sure there are concerns around whether he will hit his Breakeven in a few weeks time but remember his job security is what you paid such high money for and with an injury to Matt Kennedy that has only increased. Not one for the rage trade list.

The only other rookie we saw in this game was¬†Shai Bolton¬†(Fwd. $228,000, 51 BE), who was always going to struggle to score well without kicking goals but we didn’t think it would be as bad as 13 points. If you have¬†Bolton then it’s time to start making other plans.

On Friday night we got our first glimpse of a future star in¬†Tom Doedee¬†(Def. $203,000, -8 BE). There had been a lot of question marks over who would take Lever’s role down back at Adelaide and, despite competition from Kyle Cheney and Alex Keath,¬†Doedee¬†got the nod for round 1 and went about securing his spot in the best way possible. He had 57 points between the second and third quarter a lone before finishing with 80 points from 21 disposals and 7 marks.¬†¬†In the space of one round he has made himself a must have for the rookie list. Those who started with¬†Lachlan Murphy¬†(Def. $176,000, 21 BE) instead of¬†Doedee¬†should look at making the switch after he only scored 34 points. The only real positive from Murphy’s game is that if he continues to play he will get dual position status at the conclusion of Round 5 as he spent a vast majority of his time up forward.

Speaking of forward time for Adelaide, we also got to see what the star from JLT2, Darcy Fogarty (Mid/Fwd. $256,000, 30 BE), could do and for one quarter it looked like he was born to be a fantasy beast. Fogarty went in to quarter time with a goal and 22 points next to his name. He was only able to score 27 more points for the entire game to end up with 49 points from two goals. With Tom Lynch and Taylor Walker both a chance to return on Thursday night we may not be seeing Fogarty or Murphy in the seniors for too much longer so start looking in to other rookie options up forward.

Image result for ben long st kilda brisbaneThe unexpected star from the Saints vs Brisbane game was¬†Ben Long¬†(Fwd. $237,000, 43 BE).¬†Long has added considerable size to his frame and was roaming the half forward line with great intent on his way to 68 points. Despite a couple of skill errors it was a couple of marks at full stretch that caught our eye. St Kilda pretty much had a full list to choose from for Round 1 and the fact that Long played, and played well, increases his job security considerably. One to definitely consider if you missed the boat in Round 1 as is he is looking to have a fantasy friendly role. It was surprising to see at the end of the game that¬†Hunter Clark¬†($266,000, 31 BE) had made his way to 51 points as he seemed to be rarely sighted. This could be a good thing for those with¬†Clark as he¬†seemed to fit in seamlessly despite playing all over the ground. What is not promising is the fact he only got 62% game time, his goal came from a pass in to him in the goal square and Luke Dunstan is sitting in the wings deserving of a spot.¬†Our take is to keep him if you’ve got him but if you don’t then no need to worry about finding a way to bring him in.

Another key debutant that didn’t perform quite as well from a fantasy perspective was¬†Cameron Rayner¬†(Mid/Fwd. $268,000, 45 BE). Outside of his classy goal,¬†Rayner¬†also took a great contested mark but the highlight reel really finished there as he scored only 35 points. Luke Hodge has come out this week and said that he is a huge fan of the future star and we are sure the coaching staff are on the same page, so there’s really been no harm to his job security. We also said you’ll need to be patient with¬†Rayner¬†and nothing has changed. We understand he is one more poor score away from being traded out by a lot of teams but we will be keeping him in our squads.

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From one top draft pick to the next and¬†Andrew Brayshaw (Mid. $272,000, 38 BE) was another that didn’t give the output that we coaches wanted with only 45 points from his 12 disposals.¬†Brayshaw did have his fair share of midfield time though during his 66% game time which was both expected and promising for those coaches with him. Coaches should look to hold him for one more week. Another player to put in to this category is¬†Bailey Banfield¬†(Mid. $187,000, 7 BE) who outscored his counterpart with 54 points from his own 12 disposals.¬†Banfield¬†spent a lot more time on the field with 82% game time and the fact he is more kick happy then¬†Brayshaw was the reason for his higher score. We currently have both players in our team and won’t be trading them out but¬†Banfield¬†is the clear pick if you only want to have one of the dynamic duo at Fremantle. It will be interesting to see who makes way at Fremantle once Stephen Hill returns.

Alex Pearce¬†(Def. $208,000, 17 BE) did exactly as you can expect week to week.¬†Pearce¬†played as a key defender on Charlie Dixon, rarely resting on the bench and scored 48 points. Expectations on Pearce’s scoring was never going to be high but his job security is one of the best out of all the rookies we have. When there is a game that Freo dominates (if that does occur), you can expect to see a score a lot lower from¬†Pearce as it was only massive supply in to their backline that saw him able to score above 40 against the Power.

The question marks around¬†Dom Barry¬†(Mid. $198,000 -4 BE) was always going to be for his job security and not his scoring potential. He went about securing his spot in a big way as he had 22 disposals and 72 points. He was a key part of a lot of Port’s scoring chains and even copped a mention from Hinkley in the post match conference about his performance. Port won’t be playing Fremantle every week but if¬†Barry¬†plays this week after Robbie Gray returns then it’s going to be hard to see him losing his spot. If that is the case then despite us saying to hold on to Dow and Brayshaw then if you have both it may be worth moving one of those players down to¬†Barry.¬†

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One player that has made himself a must have is¬†Nicholas Holman¬†(Mid. $208,000, -15 BE). For those that follow us on twitter you will know how much of a fan we were of¬†Holman¬†in the pre-season. We felt like proud farmers when one of our top cash cow options tackled his way to 89 points. That’s right, Holman had 13 tackles which was the exact same amount of disposals that he had. We aren’t getting too ahead of ourselves though as players scores from the game have to be taken with a grain of salt due to the absolute bath conditions. Despite this, Holman is simply a must have for your midfield. This is despite the inevitable return of Aaron Hall and Michael Barlow at some point in to the team.

Popular rookie selections in¬†Luke Davies-Uniacke (Mid $258,000, 49 BE) and¬†Ben Jacobs¬†(Mid $244,000, 36 BE) were severely disappointing with only 27 and 37 points respectively. If you have luxury trades this week then there is no harm in getting rid of either of these guys. As discussed before with Holman, the game was played in horrible conditions so it’s not the worst thing to have a look at the cash cows once they are under ideal conditions at Etihad stadium this weekend. If there is no sign of improvement then they will be top of the chopping block for sure.

Another star rookie from the first round was Collingwood’s¬†Sam Murray¬†(Def. $200,000, -7 BE). Going in to half time the great hope down in defence was on 52 points but reduced game time in the second half saw¬†Murray¬†end up on 76 points. There were some definite skill errors early on but it was the amount that the Pies players were feeding Murray the ball out of defence that had us most excited. Was a lock before round 1 and has made himself a must have now by backing up what we knew he was capable of. Will only score more as his game time increases and the Pies start seeing more of an onslaught of ball sent in to their defensive half.

We were very impressed with¬†Jaidyn Stephenson (Mid/Fwd. $274,000 BE 26) and his score of 61.¬†Stephenson¬†played all over the ground and didn’t seem to run out of gas which is impressive for a rookie. His tally of 16 disposals included 4 inside 50s and 2 rebound 50s which reflects his ground coverage. Coaches were scared off from¬†Stephenson due to questions marks around his job security. Those question marks still remain with names like De Goey, Oxley, Blair, Greenwood, Brown and Elliot still waiting in the wings. A hamstring injury to Josh Smith will help him secure a spot for Round 2 though. Another one that coaches with him can be happy to keep for now and even play on the field. Those of us without him don’t have to put him top of the priority list to bring in.

The biggest surprise packet of the weekend for us was the game of Tim English (Fwd/Ruc. $217,000, -4 BE). He has gone from a player we saw as the best option for the second bench ruck spot to a genuine player you can consider on the field as a forward rookie after scoring 78 points against quality opposition. It seems that English has spent the summer only focusing on leg weights as he is still quite thin up top but he provided great ruck support for Roughead.

The other rookie you must consider bringing in after watching the GWS vs Bulldogs game is Jeremy Finlayson (Def. $194,000, 1 BE). Playing predominately in the backline it was perhaps lack of supply down there that halted Finlayson from scoring more as he was playing the fantasy friendly role of a roll off defender. With a big win coming in Round 1 and another match they should win in Round 2, his job security in the short term is good enough to see at least a couple more promising price rises.

Those who picked Alex Pearce over Aaron Naughton (Def. $257,000, 37 BE) would be happy after Round 1. Although they scored similar Naughton did not look too comfortable down back. Perhaps being a victim of circumstance as GWS ran all over Bulldogs, he was caught out of position a fair few times. Luckily for owners of Naughton he is not going anywhere soon due to the depleted Dogs backline. Hold for now or look to switch to Pearce if you want only one rookie in your defence who is there for their job security alone.

Zac Langdon¬†(Fwd. $188,000, 7 BE) was clearly nervous at the start of the game but got better as the match wore on. It was great to see him line up in the team alongside Sam Lloyd as we were concerned there was only room for one. He played the defensive forward role that’s expected of him with a lot of pressure acts and he used his 6 tackles to help him get to 55 points. The problem with¬†Langdon is his team won by over 80 points and he only managed such a score. With Scully due to come back he only might just hold his spot if at all. You really can’t expect high scores from him and he will better serve your side from the bench.

The biggest surprise debutant from the clash and even the round was¬†Billy Gowers¬†(Fwd $187,000, 9 BE). It seems like every year Beveridge chucks a few rookies at us that we didn’t see coming. Be weary that he also has a good habit of constantly changing his line-up with the new names being the most vulnerable.¬†Gowers definitely did enough to get another go at it in round 2 with 9 of his 10 possessions being contested and scoring 53 points. He is another of those mature age recruits that we fantasy coaches love .¬†Gowers¬†stems from the Footscray VFL side and averaged 67 points at reserve level last year. It seems he’ll be contending with Tory Dickson for a spot but congratulations to those who were brave enough to pick him as you have a cheap rookie that will continue to play in the short term.

With so many injuries in the Bulldogs lineup, Fletcher Roberts, was asked to fill one of the key position voids down back. Standing next to Patton the amount that the ball was in their defensive 50 saw him able to get 14 possessions and 51 dreamteam points. Although he was serviceable and has good job security in the short term, there are players that will give you similar output for cheaper. Some of which most teams will already have in their side in the shape of Alex Pearce or Aaron Naughton.

Image result for zach guthrie geelong melbourneThere was so much to take away from the Geelong verse Melbourne game from a rookie perspective so let’s start from the top.¬†Zach Guthrie¬†(Def. $266,000, 4 BE) defied all our thoughts about his ceiling when he got to 84 points. Looking at the team sheet it’s hard to see who takes his spot, in fact the injury to Taylor has only assisted with securing his position in the back six. Zach played 9 of the last 11 games in 2017 and has most importantly added some playing weight over the pre-season. You have one more chance to grab¬†Guthrie before his price is too high. We are sticking with him out of our sides as¬† we’re not convinced that he will get 22 disposals every week, but that’s unfair on the guy after such a strong game and JLT series.

One player that 33% of teams are stoked to have selected is¬†Tim Kelly¬†(Mid. $253,000, 4 BE). It’s hard to see him going anywhere as he was roaming between the wing and half forward with some stints through the midfield. What more could you want? Well if it’s anything, it would be having someone that is composed while playing that role, and Kelly¬†was just that!¬†It looks like he will play a complimentary role to the star studded midfield and all the talk about him taking Steven Motlop’s role has been backed up after one round. It’s not to late to grab him and he should be a top priority for those who can afford the $253,000 price tag and don’t have him yet.

A favourite of the Milkmen who looked great out there was¬†Lachlan Fogarty¬†(Mid. $251,000, 10 BE). Although he would be high on the chopping block at the selection table following Dangerfield’s return, he did his part to try keep his spot with 20 disposals, 4 marks and 1 goal for 70 points. Like Kelly, he too floated between the forward line and midfield. The job security of¬†Fogarty is a constant debate amongst our duo but the end result is that if you have¬†Fogarty you wouldn’t be trading him out but you can only afford to have one out of him and¬†Kelly.

From the first goal of the Geelong and Melbourne game it was hard not to be impressed by¬†Bayley Fritsch¬†(Fwd. $236,000 5 BE).¬†Fritsch¬†is a clear important link in the chain for the¬†Demons and that was justified by the fact he spent 87% of time on the field. If you aren’t one of the 44% of teams that have¬†Fritsch¬†then get him in as he’s playing a great role in a good team. Something that is normally a recipe for success from a rookie perspective.

The only rookie from the game that didn’t impress was¬†Esava Ratugolea¬†(Fwd $178,000, 16 BE). Despite being around the ball , it surprised us a lot that he only managed 39 points. Ratugolea did kick¬†a major, but the other 7 possessions he had were not convincing and he really won’t last too long with Rhys Stanley waiting for his chance. Look to trade him to a Fritsch, Long or English if you have such a chance.

There was three Eagles who made their debut on Sunday evening at the new Optus Stadium.¬†Liam Ryan¬†(Fwd. $231,000, 21 BE) scored 51 points,¬†Jake Waterman¬†(Fwd. $181,000, 13 BE) had 44 points and¬†Daniel Venables¬†(Fwd. $175,000, 21 BE) fumbled his way to 33 points. The most impressive of the bunch was¬†Liam Ryan. Again we got exactly what we were expecting in one of our rookies with¬†Liam Ryan. The crowd lifted whenever he was near the ball and¬†although he only kicked one goal, he did look real dangerous in patches. It’s the same story with Ryan though, perfect for your forward bench, as there will be some real quiet game,s but enough scoring opportunities to generate cash for your teams.¬†Jake Waterman¬†tried hard but is really just standing ground until the inevitable return of¬†Josh Kennedy. It’s still a pass from us, although news has come out that Kennedy won’t be back until Round 4 or 5. The most concerning rookie currently in our side is¬†Venables.¬†Although he started in the midfield which was promising, nothing really went right for him from there. He seemed quite lost in the speed of the game and fumbled a fair few times with 3 of his 7 possessions being Clangers. We hope that he gets another chance but the reality of the situation is that he needs some more time in the WAFL to find his feet.

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Keep an Eye On

Unfortunately we don’t have much to put in to this section as there was only practice matches in all reserve level teams this week. With hard to access stats, it’s only word of mouth we can go off at this point.¬†Nicholas Coffield¬†(Mid/Def. $256,000, 40 BE) was the most surprising omission out of the round 1 rookies. He had 17 disposals in the practice match against Williamstown but was outshone by his defender couterpart¬†Bailey Rice¬†(Def. $170,000, 27 BE) who had 24 of his own touches. It’s hard to see¬†Coffield¬†being named this week after a win for the club with no injuries and we will need a fair few more price rises from our other rookies to make money moving to¬†Coffield¬†once he finally does play for the Saints. Here’s hoping we don’t see him until the middle of this year.

With Mitch Robinson and Daniel Rich looking to miss out at Brisbane’s Round 2 clash, there is a good chance of us seeing¬†Zac Bailey¬†(Mid $242,000, 38 BE) get a run.¬†Bailey¬†pushed for selection with¬†a strong showing in the practice match at reserve level. The injury to Josh Smith at Collingwood may also have opened the door for¬†Brody Mihocek¬†(Def. $170,000, 27 BE). Although as mentioned before when discussing¬†Jaidyn Stephenson¬†there are plenty of other names at the Pies that could easily come in to the team.

Other key rookies who performed well in the practice matches were¬†Jack Higgins¬†(Mid/Fwd. $238,000, 37 BE),¬†Brayden Ainsworth¬†(Mid. $208,000, 33 BE) and¬†Adam Cerra¬†(Mid. $262,000, 41 BE). Fremantle actually released stats from their reserve level practice match.¬†Cerra scored 94 points and¬†Hugh Dixon¬†(Fwd. $184,000, 29 BE) kicked 6 goals and scored 100 points. Ross Lyon has also confirmed that Cerra will debut this Saturday. Cerra, who was pick number five in last years national draft gathered 24 disposals and kicked a goal. At that price, we don’t recommend jumping on. There are better options available in the midfield.

It’s worth noting that the cash cow rookies that were named as emergencies in Round 1 were:

*Deep Breath In*

Callum Moore (Fwd. $195,000 31 BE)
Cameron O’Shea¬†(Def. $231,000 36 BE)
Harry McKay (Fwd. $225,000, 35 BE)
Cameron Polson (Mid/Fwd $185,000, 29 BE)
Mason Redman (Def. $176,000 28 BE)
Nicholas Coffield himself,
Connor Ballendean (Def/Fwd. $186,000, 29 BE)
Oscar McInerney (Ruc. $170,000, 27 BE)
Mitch Crowden (Mid/Fwd, $170,000, BE 27)
Marc Pittonet (Ruc. $196,000, 31 BE)
Brody Mihocek (Def. $170,000, 27 BE)
Mitch Hibberd (Def. $235,000, 37 BE)
Tom Murphy (Def/Mid, $170,000 27 BE)
Nick Shipley (Mid, $170,000 27 BE)
Aiden Bonar (Mid/Fwd $250,000 39 BE)
Lachlan Keefe (Def/Fwd. $170,000 27 BE)
Charlie Constable (Mid. $200,000, 31 BE)
Jordan Cunico (Mid. $222,000, 35 BE)
Brayden Ainsworth (Mid $208,000 33 BE) and
Francis Watson (Def. $170,000 27 BE)

*Deep Breath Out*.

From next week we’ll have a much better idea of what rookies are pushing for their claim through the reserves as we look to bring you all the scores we can find for the key rookies in one spreadsheet.


There’s been an amazing amount of support and questions coming through on Twitter. From next week on we plan to answer some key questions for the week ahead from twitter on this post so please send them over to us at our twitter handle of¬†@TheMilkmenDT.

Top 5 Cash Cow Rookies You Should Have

  1. Sam Murray
  2. Tim Kelly
  3. Bayley Fritsch
  4. Nicholas Holman
  5. Tom Doedee

Top 5 Cash Cow Rookies You Should Consider

  1. Zach Guthrie
  2. Dom Barry (If he survives for Round 2)
  3. Jeremy Finlayson
  4. Lachlan Fogarty (If he survives for Round 2)
  5. Tim English

Side Note

For those of you that play Real Dreamteam, most of the information written in this post definitely holds suit. However, Jarrod Gartlett, is a must have rookie in that format of the game. Despite scoring 74 points, he has only one more game of being available at bottom price and will be given every chance at the Blues this year.

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  1. anth80

    March 28, 2018 at 7:26 am

    Thinking Naughton to Guthrie and Jacobs to Barry this week. Good or bad trades?

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:58 am

      If you have the luxury then Good good!

      • anth80

        March 28, 2018 at 10:20 am

        What’s more important. If Frampton plays then bringing him in for Langdon and moving English to F6? Or those 2 trades as mentioned above. Cerra is debuting also for Freo so about worried one of Brayshaw or Banfield misses.
        So Jacobs may need to stay.
        Same with Naughton

  2. Alan J

    March 28, 2018 at 7:41 am

    Nice one Miles & Pete!!

    This weeks selection is going to be tense as I’ll only have 1 trade to make with Fogarty, Langdon, Venables & Waterman in my FWD line, eep..

    Would English be a better FWD option than Barry at M8 for cash generation?

    English gives me better FWD rookie depth and he has DPP but Barry is likely to score more and make more sweet sweet candy

  3. The Walrus

    March 28, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Brilliant article, cowboys.

    The situation: R1 score 2150. O’Connor & Cameron did not play. Pretty sure some of my playing rookies (eg ZGL) will be dropped. Luke McDonald as a POD (Point of Disappointment). $150k in the bank. What do I do?
    1) Trade in NicNat for Jacobs & Finlayson for O’Connor leaving a kitty of $460k for next week;
    2) Get rid of 2 non-playing cash cows for 2 playing cash cows.
    3) Get rid of McDonald & bring in cash cows.

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:57 am

      Really not our domain but with McDonald I’d say the fact it was horrible conditions has to be taken in to consideration. For that sake I would say Option 2 for us.

  4. barkhammer

    March 28, 2018 at 8:20 am

    Great stuff again guys.

    I went for midfield rookies of Brayshaw, Kelly, Fogarty, Banfield and Barry.

    Wondering if I should trade one of these to Holman or give it another week?

    Had some concerns with Holman’s job security with Hall, Barlow and Brodie waiting in the wings.


    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:54 am

      Great start in the midfield!
      Miles is a huge fan of Fogarty and you’d be rough to trade Brayshaw or Banfield off one game.
      With Cerra named we’re nervous who makes way at Freo. We know it won’t be Brayshaw but Banfield hasn’t been publically listed as safe by Lyon in yesterday’s press conference. If Banfield doesn’t play your hand may be forced otherwise we would wait one more week.

      • 13th Man

        March 28, 2018 at 2:32 pm

        It’ll be Daniel Pearce and Cam Sutcliffe who go out for Freo (at least all Freo Supporters hope). I think the Freo rooks will be in the side for a while.

  5. fartypants

    March 28, 2018 at 8:26 am

    So Tim Kelly clearly over Dom Barry? Roger that…

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:50 am

      Purely based on job security but if Barry is named you wouldn’t go trading Barry to Kelly.

    • fartypants

      March 28, 2018 at 11:15 am

      I‚Äôm getting one of those two in…. been tossing it up all week.

  6. A smart pupper

    March 28, 2018 at 8:49 am

    Interesting… Seems I was more encouraged by D Fogarty than most. He’s a beast in the pack and has a bullish attitude that the Crows need after the end to last season. I know that AFL media has tipped him to make way with Murphy, but personally I see him hanging around for a few weeks. Douglas and Murphy will make way this week. I think with a fully-functioning forward line Fogarty can average 70. Crows missed Lynch. Provided Rayner doesn’t show anything again this week I’ll be straight-swapping to Fog next week.

    • Alan J

      March 28, 2018 at 8:59 am

      Can you have a chat with Pykey please?!

    • Billy

      March 28, 2018 at 9:08 am

      I agree he looked pretty good. Problem is Tex and Lynch need to come back into the side and it’s unlikely to be at someone else’s expense than Fog.

      Also playing Tex, Lynch, Gov, Jenkins and Fog would be too tall.

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 9:49 am

        A great analyst Smart Pupper! Always back your judgement in if you think that’s the case and he plays this week.

      • A smart pupper

        March 28, 2018 at 12:07 pm

        Just confirmed Lynch missing. Even if he was playing I’d consider Fogarty an unlucky man if Murphy stayed in the side over him merely because of his size…

        • McGlovins

          March 28, 2018 at 2:49 pm

          Most likely scenario is Otten will replace Murphy this week. Fogs will stay in and play FF, Tex to CHF. Milera will replace Doogie on HBF.

  7. Josh

    March 28, 2018 at 8:51 am

    1. Naughton to Guthrie
    2. Banfield to Barry
    3. Venables to English

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:48 am

      All but option 2 in our opinion if Banfield is named.

  8. The Chosen Won

    March 28, 2018 at 8:57 am

    “Jeff Garlett, is a must have rookie in that format of the game. Despite scoring 61 points”.

    Do you mean Jarred Garlett that scored 74 points from Carlton?

    Good Luck‚ĄĘ¬ģ¬©

    • Clintwits

      March 28, 2018 at 9:21 am

      Jarred Garlett scored 61 in SC so am assuming yes thats who they were meaning

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 9:43 am

        Yeahhhh our bad! Blame the late night finish on that one but it was meant to be Jarrod.
        Thanks for that though

  9. Jacko

    March 28, 2018 at 9:40 am

    So in RDT is it worth trading Fogarty to Garlett if Fog gets the axe?
    Even though I love Fogarty’s game much better and also think he is a beast. Is it worth wasting a trade. Only get 30 of them :-/

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 9:47 am

      It’s tough but as we see it you are getting a player priced at $335,000 in one format for $147,000 in the other. Understand there’s different salary/structure etc but you know what we mean.
      Fogarty is hard not to love how he goes about it but if he still plays with Tex and Lynch back then to us his role just becomes too much of a question mark.

    • thebopper58

      March 28, 2018 at 12:07 pm


      You can wait an extra week before you trade in RDT
      I assume you’re talking Fogarty (ADL) who might survive as Lynch out for a further week
      If selected i’d hold for one more week by then both players would’ve sorted themselves out
      Garlett is extremely cheap in those other forms of the game
      Best of luck

      • Michael

        March 28, 2018 at 1:07 pm

        I thinking that Jenkins JS is a alittle wobbly at the moment, so hold on to Fogarty..

  10. Coupla Great Daynes

    March 28, 2018 at 9:52 am

    Billy Frampton a chance to get up with Ryder down?

    • Mark 'Irish' O'Connor

      March 28, 2018 at 10:36 am


      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 12:49 pm

        Hahaha Thanks Mark. Look, we actually like Frampton and his reserve form from last year but we feel we would’ve heard something about it in the media by now if that’s the way Port was leaning.

  11. Big Ben

    March 28, 2018 at 9:52 am

    lads my rookie stocks are pretty good but was thinking of getting rid of Ruc Martin to Nic Nat to pic up some cash and a easy game against the Dogs and then Grab Acres or Omera for Brayshaw in the Mid any thoughts?

    • Matthew Woods

      March 28, 2018 at 12:14 pm

      you picked stef martin for a reason with nic nat on limited game time in the next few weeks there will be games he scores a 50 and give brayshaw another chance plays at home I think he will be good for a 70

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 12:50 pm

        Yeah agreed, our specialty is more in the rookie area but I wouldn’t be trading out any premiums for a cash grab.

  12. SNAGS

    March 28, 2018 at 10:21 am

    No mention of o’conner? With harry Taylor out would that improve his chances of getting a run?

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 12:52 pm

      Have to see how he recovers from the ankle injury he sustained. We were wrong on Guthrie’s potential so we could be wrong on O’Connors also but we just dont see the high scoring ability being there.

  13. thebopper58

    March 28, 2018 at 10:22 am

    Well done lads – huge shoes to fill but you’re doing a great job

    Most pleasing rookie news was Harrison Wigg returning via NEAFL
    Hope to see him as a perfect downgrade in a few weeks!!
    Best of luck

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 12:54 pm

      Yeah that was music to our ears and we’ll be keeping a close eye on Wigg. His return was a lot sooner than expected which is great

  14. Burger


    March 28, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Terrific in-depth article Lads. Keep up the great work.

  15. Royds

    March 28, 2018 at 10:44 am

    – Fogarty for Fritsch or swap in english and bring in new port ruck
    – Naughton for Zuthrie
    – Brayshaw for Tim Kelly

    Can only do 2 and or possibly only one if you guys think i should trade out Rocky..
    Cheers for help

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 12:56 pm

      Second one has our attention the most. First one if Fogarty is dropped. Fritsch looks the goods for sure!

  16. Laughing Lamb

    March 28, 2018 at 10:46 am

    L.Fogarty or Brayshaw on field? (Already have T.Kelly on field aswell)

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      Considering how well Adelaide’s midfield did against Essendon let’s go with Brayshaw

      • Laughing Lamb

        March 28, 2018 at 2:28 pm

        Thanks guys! Love your work! Since you guys love LFogarty, field over the mature age big body Holman!?

  17. why-hartlet-why

    March 28, 2018 at 10:47 am

    I thought, I was being clever and put Florent in my team, do I just roll with him on bench or cut my losses!!!!!

    • Owen

      March 28, 2018 at 11:11 am

      Same here haha. Give Florent another go or axe him? Not many good forward rookies to downgrade to to be honest since I’m running with 3 on field. Has a breakeven of 54 (I think). Cheers boys

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 12:57 pm

        Your hand may be forced one Haneberry returns. If he plays give him one more chance.

  18. Luke

    March 28, 2018 at 10:53 am

    Great article, thanks guys. At this early stage is it really worth reading one of Dow, Banfield or Brayshaw to secure Kelly and if so who is the safer option to dump? I’m thinking Brayshaw .. the cash would help me to upgrade Lobb to Petracca.

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 12:58 pm

      I’d give it one more week before making the call of which one is best to dump. Another 40 score from Dow brings him to the top of the list if Banfield survives two more weeks in the team. Otherwise if Banfield is dropped then your decision is made for you.

  19. Aidan

    March 28, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Love your work gents, a fantastic read, wondering what your thoughts are on what the best two options out of Raynar to frampton and fielding English, Brayshaw to Kelly and Naughton to Guthrie
    Cheers in advance

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 1:00 pm

      Are we allowed to not like either? You have to be patient with Raynor but know he has great job security. That’s worth its weight in gold come later on.
      Your second option is great in that you bring in Guthrie but it’s not worth getting rid of Brayshaw.

  20. Euman


    March 28, 2018 at 11:01 am

    Great article, and how dumb am I (or how smart are you) I didn’t think of moving English to forward line on field, it would mean no bench cover in ruck but. However if he keeps scoring like that then its hard to ignore would rather him on field. Food for thought thanks Milkmen

    • Grovers Guns

      March 28, 2018 at 12:37 pm

      In same boat as I went away last weekend and had to put my team in early as no internet and stupidly had Hutchings (what happened to him after being named?) in forward line.
      He goes out for English (current R3)to fwd and trade in Frampton/Flynn for their DPP if required later, as I don’t like any of the forward rookies I don’t have (already have Waterman, Fritsch and Giles-Langdon)

  21. Mclovin

    March 28, 2018 at 11:08 am

    If both are named…. L.fogarty or Barry?

    • Grovers Guns

      March 28, 2018 at 12:38 pm

      Barry then Barry then Barry as 1,2 and 3

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 1:02 pm

        Hahaha this questions has us Milkmen divided on opinion. However one feels more strongly about Fogarty then the other does about Barry so let’s go with Fogarty.

    • McGlovins

      March 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm

      What’s the sincerest form of flattery again?

  22. Chance Bateman

    March 28, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Got no must outs this week so struggling to decide.
    Should I trade out Ryan, Raynor or ZGL to English.
    Also thoughts on going either Dow, Banfield, Brayshaw or Jacobs to Barry?

    • Royds

      March 28, 2018 at 11:42 am

      Trade out jacobs to Barry and raynor to English

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 1:03 pm

        Rayner isn’t getting much love is he! Note Tom Scully is yet to come in for GWS and Langdon would have to be one of the top of the chopping block to allow him to come in to the side.

        • Euman


          March 28, 2018 at 1:38 pm

          I think this week Rayner at his home ground and no Mitch Robinson(if thats relevant) will do much better this week and is better for run and will be more used to the speed, i recon hes good for 50, and he may score a goal or tow to lift that, is just my speculation.

  23. Justin11

    March 28, 2018 at 11:38 am

    Not to be critical but you were very keen on Jacobs last week, lads.

    • Justin11

      March 28, 2018 at 11:58 am

      Jacobs will now become Kelly for me.

      Though to be fair, you also tried to tell me to avoid the Adelaide Fog.
      I’m not sure what to do with him yet.

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 1:06 pm

        We are still on Jacobs and will be keeping him in our sides. We just don’t blame those who want to get rid of him or LDU and see no harm in doing so if you missed out on a Kelly, Barry, Fogarty type.

    • Euman


      March 28, 2018 at 1:39 pm

      who is Jacobs?

      • Mark 'Irish' O'Connor

        March 28, 2018 at 1:42 pm

        Thank you! Never heard of this Jacobs clown

        • Euman


          March 28, 2018 at 1:49 pm

          am serious who is he?

          • St guns

            March 28, 2018 at 2:38 pm

            Kangaroos tagger

        • Euman


          March 28, 2018 at 2:46 pm

          oh yes , i did consider him but felt hes a tagger so may not score that well, he will occasionally score ok if wins own ball but not for me im afraid

  24. Matthew Woods

    March 28, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    hey guys, thoughts on moving English to f6 I think he has better scoring potential then say a waterman or Langdon, especially with fogerty not having the greatest job security just think long term it could be an option but with English up against nic nat might not be worth it this week.

    • Justin11

      March 28, 2018 at 12:23 pm

      If it’s any help, Nic Nat only played 54 percent of the game last week, and he will also be playing reduced time on the field against the bulldogs. That could help English’s score.

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 1:07 pm

        With Beveridge coming out and saying that English is ready to take the number 1 ruck role then I don’t see any harm in starting English.

      • Euman


        March 28, 2018 at 1:45 pm

        im thinking he may not even play, given the poor surface at Etihad

    • Euman


      March 28, 2018 at 1:44 pm

      only minor concern i have is this and its minor and depends i guess what you are trying to achieve either winning car or league.

      If English is at F6 you may score better per week than say the players you mention by say 20-30 points estimate but will depend on the game this great.

      – no bench cover in your ruck at all (unless Frampton or Cameron named), i understand you can change trades last minute and or move him but that does not always pan out. If there is a late withdrawal you have donut. If you have Kruzer or Sandi or even Nic Nat i would be worried. Nic Nat eagles may take one look at the slippery Ethihad surface then look at English as the opposite ruck and say Nic have a rest.

      – The idea of the game is cash generation, if English is at R3 in perfect world you then should have 29 green-lights with as many rookies playing to make cash if he is F6 then you will only have 28 – just saying, this may mean the difference for that last premo come GF day.

  25. Grovers Guns

    March 28, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    Awesome work Milkmen

    First trade was Hutchings (had to pick team early and don’t know why dropped) out for English from R3 to F6 and bringing in Frampton – or would Flynn be better? I want their DPP

    second trade as I will hold Merret if playing – Dow for Jeager (leaving $55k) or get Kelly (leaving $257k for a solid upgrade next week)??

    Mids have Brayshaw, Banfield, Barry and Holman

    BTW – Banfield and Brayshaw are both safe. Brayshaw confirmed by Ross and Ross also gave Banfield a good wrap. DPearce is the one to go out for Cerra

  26. Jonathan

    March 28, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    Thinking Barlow to either Fritsch or English?? Prefer the later with dpp and the option of being my third ruck. Also isn’t he the no 1 ruck option at WB too?

  27. The Milkmen

    March 28, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Frampton is more likely to play than Flynn in terms of depth at the club.
    Like where your head is at for the rest of all that. Kelly to Dow is a safe trade but if it’s not AFL Fantasy then give it one more week.

    • Euman


      March 28, 2018 at 1:56 pm

      agree, if i had a luxury trade i would bring him in to R4 Frampton that is.

      My dilemma is i have selected Guthrie in def and put him on field. Cats play Monday but and i am going camping early Friday morning so will have no idea if he is named only if he is in the 25 man squad. I guess as long as i have cover which is Finlayson then ok – yes?

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 2:08 pm

        With injuries sustained to their backline it’s a pretty safe bet to say Guthrie will play. But yes, if he doesn’t and Finlayson covers you should be fine.

        • Euman


          March 28, 2018 at 2:44 pm


  28. Dan

    March 28, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    Is it worth trading our underperforming rooks to performing rooks off of just 1 round? (ie. Dow/Brayshaw to Kelly, Banfield to Barry, Rayner to English). Or do we give them another week to prove themselves

    • TC - Top secret

      March 28, 2018 at 2:02 pm

      Rayner to english I like but i already have English in my R3. Bummer. (And I dont have rayner).

    • TC - Top secret

      March 28, 2018 at 2:04 pm

      If u have nothing pressing eg. And injured player to replace than yes, chase that cash

    • TC - Top secret

      March 28, 2018 at 2:05 pm

      Is the general consenus that Brayshaw to Kelly is better than dow to Kelly?

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 2:07 pm

      In AFL Fantasy if you have no other issues to sort out then there’s no harm. Rookies are all about cash generation so if you want to make cash quicker you may as well. An under-performing rook that you picked for job security doesn’t need to be traded out after one bad round though.

      In your example I’d only be looking at going Raynor to English if you believe English is in it for the long haul.

  29. TC - Top secret

    March 28, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    Brayshaw to Kelly and the extra cash use to get Hibberd up to Jake Lloyd or Naughton to Guthrie or Lachie Murphy (if not named) to Alex Pearce? Thoughts? Feedback is gold.

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 2:19 pm

      If Murphy is not named then him to Pearce should be the go if you have Doedee, Finlayson and can’t afford Guthrie.

  30. gunf

    March 28, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    hmm no match day fantasy this year?

  31. McGlovins

    March 28, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    Which two out of these three trade options (assuming they’re all named):
    1. Murphy to Guthrie
    2. Dow or Brayshaw to Barry
    3. Venebles to English

    • Euman


      March 28, 2018 at 2:47 pm

      1 & 3 but really depends on teams

      • McGlovins

        March 28, 2018 at 2:50 pm

        Yeah, I’m thinking that too. Reckon Otten will come in for Murphy, and others will keep their places (except maybe Venebles). That would decide it for me.

  32. thatsomerlyn

    March 28, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    Hey Milkman, Great Article!
    I need to get rid of my last-minute dud Shai Bolton and unsure who to bring in for F5, already got Fritsch F6 and Langdon, Waterman on Bench.
    Im able to get any of the remaining fwd rooks/cashcows, but favouring Stephenson for his JS, whats the milkmans thoughts?

    • McGlovins

      March 28, 2018 at 3:32 pm

      English is best of forwards by far.

      • thatsomerlyn

        March 28, 2018 at 3:41 pm

        already got english R3, not convinced with his scoring potiental

        • The Milkmen

          March 28, 2018 at 4:27 pm

          Not so convinced on Stephensons job security. If that’s what you want to bring in then Liam Ryan is safe as houses.

          • thatsomerlyn

            March 28, 2018 at 6:26 pm

            cheers for the advice, but im gonna take a punt and go stephenson, be is similar to ryans

          • Guy Incognito

            March 28, 2018 at 6:43 pm

            lucky you asked for their advice

  33. Justin11

    March 28, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    If D. Fogarty is dropped, who to trade him to for around the same price?
    (If he’s dropped, then at f6 I’ll only have Langdon, who might also be dropped, or Waterman.)

    Possibilities for D.Fog:

    1. Stephenson: went okay, (better than I thought he would).
    2. Gowers: I’m not as keen on him.
    3. ?

    • thatsomerlyn

      March 28, 2018 at 3:28 pm

      in the same situation looking for a F5 fwd, Stephensons the safest bet with JS, but unsure if he’ll make any cash

      • Justin11

        March 28, 2018 at 3:30 pm

        I guess there’s always the English option for both of us.

        • thatsomerlyn

          March 28, 2018 at 3:36 pm

          already got him at R3, not convinced he’ll score 70 every week, but yea hes an option if another cheap ruck plays (as a port supporter highly doubt frampton will)

          • Justin11

            March 28, 2018 at 4:22 pm

            Same here, and I’d like to keep him at R3 for cover.
            Reason being, if S.Jacobs doesn’t improve this week, and Nit Nat continues to play well… you know the answer.

  34. Fooz


    March 28, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Here’s a question.
    I’m batting pretty deep in the Mids:
    Titch, Duncan, MCrouch, Ross, Parker, Conigs, JOM, Holman (Banfield, Brayshaw).

    I could straight swap Brayshaw to Kelly, but is it really worth it if they will sit on the pine gathering dust?
    I could also downgrade JOM to Kelly, but at the moment, JOMs going up in price too…

    Just hoping that Banfield gets DPP in R6 … if he’s around that long.

    • thatsomerlyn

      March 28, 2018 at 3:38 pm

      gotta give brayshaw another go at Perth, had a weird role against port

      • Fooz


        March 28, 2018 at 3:45 pm

        Yeah – looked like he was given a tagging role (*shudder*) for a bit, before being a defensive high half fwd, rather than the inside mid role that he did well in during JLT2

        • thatsomerlyn

          March 28, 2018 at 3:58 pm

          he could pump out a 70-80 this week, we’ll see

          • The Milkmen

            March 28, 2018 at 4:29 pm

            Wow Fooz what a great midfield! Yeah not worth a trade in our opinion. Watch Brayshaw lift in front of his home crowd :)

  35. Rook

    March 28, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    i have barry, dow, banfield and brayshaw as my mid rooks (barry and banfield on the bench) should i trade one for hoolman and if yes then which one?

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 4:35 pm

      You’d be happy enough with those four Rook!
      Look to trade around elsewhere.

  36. LWD

    March 28, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    If Barry is named is he a must to bring in?
    Thinking of a change in structure and going Naughton to him, thoughts?

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 4:34 pm

      It’s a tough one without knowing the full structure of your rookies and who you do and don’t have. If he plays this round then our query around his job security decreases significantly. He will score 60-70 each week and has potential to go 80+ when on the park. That’s a rare breed and what you will be paying the price of a trade for.

  37. MilkyJoe

    March 28, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Need to make 2 of the 3 following trades;

    1. Naughton for Guthrie

    2. Jacobs for Barry

    3. Florent for Ryan

    Which of these trades should I make? Ryan doesn’t excite me with his scoring potential, but I feel he has relatively good job security – this is in contrast to Guthrie who looks to be a competent scorer, albeit with shaky job security.

    • The Milkmen

      March 28, 2018 at 4:44 pm

      Option 1 and 3 for us. Get in that job security! Worth it’s weight in gold over the byes

      • The Milkmen

        March 28, 2018 at 4:45 pm

        Oh whoops see you said you don’t think Guthrie has job security haha.
        Just take a look at Geelong’s injury list and you’ll be pleased to see not too many small defenders on there.
        Guthrie should be ok

        • MilkyJoe

          March 28, 2018 at 4:59 pm

          Would you say he has better job security than Naughton though? Obviously scores better, but I feel like the dogs seem to like Naughton… Also the Monday game worries me with Guthrie.

          • The Milkmen

            March 29, 2018 at 1:34 pm

            Yeah Naughton has better job security for sure.

  38. John

    March 28, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    Brayshaw or L. Fogarty to T. Kelly a bad idea? what do you think of Gowers job security and potential?

  39. wiseguy

    March 28, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    I’m confused. Why s everyone so sure Frampton won’t play. Who will replace Paddy Ryder

    • cal

      March 28, 2018 at 5:57 pm

      Dixon, Westhoff, Howard are all in line.

  40. Justin11

    March 28, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    The Fog has escaped demotion.
    Give him another go, and do a trade somewhere else? Or bring in Stephenson anyway?

    • The Milkmen

      March 29, 2018 at 1:33 pm

      If I was an owner I’d hate having to worry about it week to week. Him and Stephenson will score similar but job security of Stephenson will be similar one their stars return. Perhaps prioritize other trades first but if there’s nothing else to do then no harm done

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