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The Numbers – Round 15

Numbers… it’s what DT is all about. Price changes; averages; break-evens… the list goes on. Once again, I’ve stripped the records clean and scoured the AFL for some numbers different to those we spend our days staring at… Staring at in the hope that one day we’ll all of sudden have a magic epiphany; and all of the secrets of the DT Universe will be revealed.

Numbers… it’s what DT is all about. Price changes; averages; break-evens… the list goes on. Once again, I’ve stripped the records clean and scoured the AFL for some numbers different to those we spend our days staring at… Staring at in the hope that one day we’ll all of sudden have a magic epiphany; and all of the secrets of the DT Universe will be revealed.

Unfortunately I don’t have a crystal ball to peer into the future, but what I can do is look back at the past week in the AFL to give y’all this week’s numbers.

1 – People that actually liked the look of the Bomber’s ‘clash’ strip they played in against the Saints at the weekend. Not sure Hirdy even liked it, with many believing it was more grey than black – it was a definite fail in my books; and somewhat of an eyesore to watch with our HD TV. This was one of those times I actually wish my TV was black and white.

3 – Times that Captain Fantastic Matthew ‘Go Bother Griffen’ Boyd has graced the field for my team in 2012 (since his inclusion in R8). With most coaches opting for the reliable Ablett or Swan, Boyd often goes unnoticed. However he hasn’t let me down at all this year, with scores of 128, 133 and 133 in his games with the big C. Let’s hope he can back it up with another 130 in R16.

4 At this point in the season there are usually two things we in the AFL world are sure of: who’s vying for a finals spot; and who’s the favourite for a spot in the Grand Final. But 2012 is different at least in one way. Like previous years, there’s a swag of teams in the running for September action – with Geelong, St Kilda, Carlton, Richmond, North and Freo all wanting one of those last few spots in the 8. But as at R16 we have 4 teams atop the ladder on 44 points. With Collingwood blowing the chance to be outright first, they now sit 4th on % behind Sydney, West Coast and Adelaide in the first for the minor premiership. Whilst we’ve had the luxury of an outright favourite in Collingwood or Geelong in recent times, 2012 is a different scene – arguably the most competitive in a long time. You’d be a brave man to put money on the makeup of the top-4 or 8 at this stage.

5 – Cheers to Mick Cooper for this one. As a Pendlebury owner myself I have felt the pain each and every one these 5 weeks he’s sat on my bench with a ‘suspected 1-2 week injury’. In hindsight, it was a fractured tibia so we should’ve known better. But it doesn’t make us feel better when we could’ve side traded to a Watson or Thompson, giving us an extra couple of hundred points to boost our ranking…

7 Number of potential top-8 match ups that Geelong face in their last 8 game run to September. Currently sitting on outright 7th, the defending champions will have to work for their glory if they’re to go back to back in 2012. A loss against Collingwood next week could have them as low as 10th, whilst a win may see them usurp Essendon in the top 6. With games against the Pies, Bombers, Crows, Hawks and Eagles in the next 5 matches – it’s time to see what this ‘once-in-a-generation’ Cats team is made of.

8 – The number 100 is a pedagogical symbol of achievement in the land of DT. To ‘tonne it up’ is synonymous with a good game as we know it. Keeping track of my scores through the year, I’ve also noted how many players in my team has been ‘tonne-ing up’ each week. With an average number of 100+ scorers just shy of 8, I’ve had a solid spread this year. However things are on the up with more premo’s taking the field. The past two weeks has seen team McRath tally 11 and 14 scorers above the mark respectively.

14 – 2012 has seen the GWS boys hold strong against opposition teams, traditionally only allowing in 3-4 100+ scores in any given week. However R15 saw them finally crack and go for their biggest losing margin in their short history. This consequently saw them give up 11 separate 100+ scorers and (finally getting to the number) 14 different goal scorers. If a few more blokes took advantage of their shots, it very well could’ve easily been as high as 19 goal scorers… Well done Hawthorn.

140 – Equal season-high score of one Brisbane premium Dayne Zorko. Now having a season avg of 98 and a 5-Round average of 114 (including last week’s 69), he is a bonafide star. F7 keeper? Try F4/5 Premo. With the 6th highest DT average of the ‘forwards’ to date, he is there to stay. Should you play him over other guns such as WhiteX and Martin? It’s a yes in my book.

158 – I would love nothing more at this stage than seeing gutless ‘Pies midfielder Sharrod Wellingham sit on the sidelines for the remainder of 2012 after his high hit on Kade Simpson attracted the ire of many Blues’ fans (myself included). For the record, he was never going for the ball and the replay just makes it look even worse – with the vision of poor Simmo unconscious on the ground ingrained into the memory of spectators for good. Likely to now miss 4 weeks after breaking his jaw, thus will end the longest streak in recent times of consecutive games played – Simpson had now played every game since R15, 2005 and should return next month to begin his streak again.

162 – Unlike the Suns last year, GWS has managed to avoid regular thrashings at the hands of their more experienced counterparts. Aside from their shellacking at the hands of North in R2, their average losing margin is that of 77 points. However Sunday may have finally brought the young team to their knees, going onto smash the new boys by a season high 162 points.

Twatter – Your Numbers




After watching this game, I too was astonished at this stat. Usually eager to get at least a few +4’s, Jelwood had to earn his numbers in other areas as he had his first game in a while without a single tackle. Cheers Tom.





Not sure if this is a good number, or a terrible one Cam. But either way, the net DT output from this works out to be – 6. If only Frees For were worth +3… Then we’d all have a team full of West Coast Players (sorry Eagles fans, I couldn’t resist).

Send me your ‘Numbers’ for the week @McRathDT

Bone of Contention                                                                                                                    

After cursing myself for prematurely ditching Broughton early this year, he’s finally starting to justify my decision with a third consecutive week of sub-80 scores; Broughts continues his history of yo-yo scores with a 2nd equal-lowest season score of 59. Fear not owners – he’ll be back at some stage… most likely after a few more aggravated coaches jump ship. Thus explains the rollercoaster ride that is GB. One things’ for sure with me: Never Again.

Close behind: Malceski, Waters, Heppell, Hargrave.

Low BE, High SP

With a tasty low break-even of 48, Adam Goodes is starting to hit his straps after returning from injury 3 weeks ago. With a huge 137 at the weekend in the bank, get on him now whilst he’s at a (surely) season low $369k. With a scoring potential of 110+, he’s a handy upgrade for a topped out Jason Porplyzia ($333k). I don’t have to harp on about it, but to put things into perspective – from Round 16 – Round 24 last year Mr. Double-Brownlow averaged 114 – more than any FWD is currently getting. Check out @Aki_DT for his Dream Team Stock Market later this week for more bargains.

Whore of the Week

Surprising, 2012 has not yet seen Dean Cox nominated for the aptly named Whore of the Week prize. However Round 15 saw the big man dominate North Melbourne, near single-handedly bring the North Supporter’s hopes and dreams back down to Earth with a dull thud. His 148 Points came from 21 touches, 24 hitouts and a team-high 3.1 goals in a well-rounded performance surely worthy of 3 votes.

The Round Up

Highlights – Matty Boyd breaking the 250 as captain yet again; Coxy and Jacobs building up a great ruck partnership for 270 not out; and Zorko showing everyone that last week was a one off with a huge season-equalling 140 to bounce back. R15 was an overall high round if you didn’t have Waters.

Lowlights – Being forced to field a team without 3 premiums is tough in any week. But when you have players like Beau Waters and Stevie Johnson withdraw late, the almost-manageable damage of having Goddard, Pendlebury and Martin out makes for certain carnage. Did anyone have all 5 of these at all?

Team McRath – I’m continuing my late run to the top 2000 by jumping another 3,000 spots in R15 to now sit around 7,000 thanks to my 2nd highest season score of 2319. I’m feverishly low on trades so am praying that the suspensions and injuries will stop. Having the likes of Smedts (71) and Gibson (79) step up in the absence of premiums Goddard and Pendles is very handy though.

With R16 days away, many teams will be gladly welcoming back Scott Pendlebury onto their field, with Goddard and Martin remaining in the doghouse for one more week. With some juicy matchups in the AFL this week, I’m expecting another round of high scores as the season starts to heat up.

Also, if you’re not following me in the Twittersphere, say g’day @McRathDT

Who loves a number? McRath loves a number! Not only does he crunch the numbers for his own team, he is an integral member of the DT Talk team across the season providing heaps of great content! Follow him on Twitter: @McRathDT.



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    July 10, 2012 at 6:29 am

    4-5 – the number of weeks Waters is out. Doh!

    In my main league, I’ll finish top 8, but I have to fight to stay top 4. I have enough trades left and I have 2 fairly easy opponents left in the last 4 games.

    So, should I keep Waters on the bench, even though I also have to cop Goddard out for one more week, or swap him for someone else. I’ve already got Lids, Scotty, Carrots and Hurn.

    Now I just read that Franklin is out for 3 as well. FMDT. At least everyone is affected with this one.

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      July 10, 2012 at 10:52 am

      Possibly look at Enright and Suckling for the run home if you really must trade. Both are coming into form, and Enright may not get the usual late resting due to the Cats tough draw. Otherwise you are better off holding. Bringing in a gun for the semi-finals means more than limping into the GF to get smashed.

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    Big Feller

    July 10, 2012 at 8:52 am

    Ok – I’ve got 5 trades left.
    I’ll probably need to do something with Waters this week but do I also pull the trigger on Trealor to Goodes given he’ll never be this cheap again?
    I have Zorko filling my F7 spot at the moment so Goodes would kind of be a luxury trade.

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      July 10, 2012 at 10:17 am

      I’m in the same boat. I kind of wish Sidebottom got injured for the season to give me a reason to bring Goodes in!
      Trying to talk myself into it. If I go Trelour or McDonald to Goodes now, then next LTI in the MIDs/FWDs can be a downgrade, leaving me 6 trades left for the season and +$350k in the bank.

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        July 10, 2012 at 10:53 am

        McDonald to Goodes is the go. Extra cover, deeper bench, and you have the trades to do it.

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          July 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm

          Seemed like a plan until my M8 – Marley Williams was out for the season. Will upgrade him to Goodes now and depending on rookie selections this week might downgrade McDonald, Trelour or Morris.

  3. feathertopDT


    July 10, 2012 at 8:55 am

    Bloody hell Sharrod leave the sniping to Essendon….

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    PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)

    July 10, 2012 at 9:21 am

    God I hate Wellingham. There’s too many discounts when it comes to the MRP, feel really sorry for Kade, 158 games straight is pretty remarkable it’s a shame a bloody stupid act ends it on 158

    Hope Cameron gets his “reckless” “hit” downgraded, I’m amazed that even got reported. Sharpen up MRP

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:04 am

    need trade suggestions i have 6 trades left , i have 60k in the bank, i was thinking dickson to harvey or goods and then aaron hall to murdoch and have money in the bank?

    1. Deledio, B

    2. Waters, B

    3. Broughton, G

    5. Bugg, T ( bench usually, filling in for goddard)

    6. Ellis, B

    7. Carrazzo, A

    23. Goddard, B

    24. Spurr, L (bench)

    8. Boyd, M

    9. Thompson, S

    10. Swan, D

    11. Ablett, G

    12. Mitchell, S

    13. Gibson, S

    25. Pfeiffer, D (bench)

    26. Smith, C (bench)

    14. Maric, I

    15. Giles, J

    27. Redden, J( bench)

    28. Campbell, (bench)

    16. Franklin, L

    17. Beams, D

    18. Robinson, M

    19. Chapman, P

    20. Dangerfield, P

    21. Zorko, D

    22. Dickson, T ( usually bench, filling in for martin)

    29. Martin, D

    30. Hall, A (Bench)

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      July 10, 2012 at 10:12 am

      Hi Josh,
      One of the least best things about the layout of this site is the need to scroll up and down so much. I’m sorry if it was an accdient. But please don’t ever type out your team like that ever again.

      Ask your mum.

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:08 am

    8,500 coin you woild make by ‘downgrading’ McDonald to Rischitelli.

    Obviously most people have completed their MIDs, but for those who ran out of trades and money, he wouldn’t be the silliest purchase. Juist hope for his sake he can get that form back!

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:31 am

    I think calling Wellingham gutless is wrong and a comment by people who more than likely have never played the game at any level before .It all happens so quickly you only get a split second to make a decision and sometimes you choose the wrong one in hindsight. He got the reduction to 3 weeks because of a clean record over many years so to say he’s a king hitter or gutless is a joke. It didnt look good and now he’ll pay the price, move on that’s football.

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      July 10, 2012 at 10:56 am

      if he kept his eye on the ball he would of marked it nob jockey

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        MMM Boags

        July 10, 2012 at 11:55 am

        I’ve played heaps of football… He was a good 2-3 meters away from Kade when he took his eyes off the ball… looked at Simpson and decided to jump at his head leading with the elbow.

        Gutless is a bit of a harsh call “stupid” is more fitting.. AFL i s a quick game and they are expected to make decisions in a mater of seconds… he made the decision to hit Kade instead of hold and slow up play…. 5 games should stay at 5.

        Shuey… should stay at 2
        Lynch…. eh i’ve seen worst let go
        Bartel… Should be 3
        and the GWS player what a joke… 0 weeks nothing in it
        IMO only

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          July 10, 2012 at 1:39 pm

          I’m glad you justified your opinion by saying you’ve ‘ played heaps of footy’. I’m sure your the only one on here that has.

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          July 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

          4 – Number of seconds he had to react in slow motion
          0.5 – Number of seconds he had to react in real time
          99 – Percent of people who would jump in that situation to avoid impact on their own head, it’s just a natural reaction.

          Number of seconds? I’m the opposite of a Collingwood supporter, but I feel sorry for players who get penalised for accidents, even if it was a bit silly and unfortunate.

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      July 11, 2012 at 1:28 am

      It would seem reasonable that he miss at least as long as Simpson will.

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:38 am

    Def: Deledio, Waters, Broughton, Goddard, Carrazo, Birchall,Ellis Bench: Bugg and Spurr
    Mid: Boyd, thompson, swan, ableyy, mitchell, gibson, bench: smith and pffeifer
    Ruck: Maric, Giles, Bench: campbell and redden
    Forward: franklin, beams, chapman, dangerfield, martin,zorko Bench: hall and dickson

    6 trades left, Trade suggestions? i was thinking dickson too goodes or harvey? then hall to murdoch and have money in the bank, plus ill put zorko in my mid

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      July 10, 2012 at 10:57 am

      Standing out like a sore thumb is 5fer. If you can turn him into Goodes, then you can swap Goodes and Beams, have Beams in your mids, Goodes in your forward line, and keep Zorko on the field with Gibson/Smith and Hall/Dickson as cover. I’d also look at trading Hall before Dickson if you must downgrade.

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      While Dickson is easier to convert to Goodes, he is much more liekly to play the remainding games in the season compared to Hall, and rookies playing games later in the year can be a DT lifesaver.
      That’s just my oppinion, but if it only works with Dickson, bring home the Goodes!

  9. Slappers


    July 10, 2012 at 11:27 am

    3 – weeks buddy is out for

    i had 4 of those players out last week…. got my lowest score for the season as well 1980 :(

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      July 10, 2012 at 11:44 pm

      Did well in the MBRs!

  10. Slappers


    July 10, 2012 at 11:34 am

    3 trades left leaves me very tight… going for finals in all 4 leagues… want to keep them….

    but with waters out, martin out, god out, buddy out… im finding it hard not to trade…

    can 1 trade for the rest of the year be enough… clearly not in 2012…

    trades i was thinking:
    dickson/martin – goodes
    waters – carrots

    team would be:
    god, birchall, adcock, hep, carrots, lids, lake (darley, spurr)
    stanton, boyd, gazza, rocky, hayes, priddis (old mac, williams)
    ryder, goldy ( big o, redden)
    sidey, buddy, robbo, stevie j, ROK, goodes, martin (zorko, sexton)


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      July 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm

      I took the punt and also have 1 trade left but with strong bench cover. That is not strong bench cover.
      Waters-Carrazzo good trade.

      With your leagues, are you facing easy opposition or tough? Do you really need to do both trades??
      A tip I did was focus on one or two leagues, memorise your opposition’s team and build your team on that. If you’re sitting pretty in the top 4 in 2 of your main leagues by a win or two, hold off the trades. Once Martin’s back your team will be good in the forward.

      I reckon cop the donut this week and do the Waters-Carrazzo trade.
      Hope this helps!


      • Slappers


        July 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm

        the 2 main leagues im 1st and 2nd in… and im a game clear of the next guy below me…

        i have 2 tough opponents in the league im 2nd in.. which has a 150 cash prize at end…
        currently 3 of us at 11w-2l… 4th is a game behind…

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    July 10, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Who is the better person to trade in; Goodes or Reiwoldt

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      July 10, 2012 at 11:52 am

      Goodes!!! He is a proven gun.

    • Slappers


      July 10, 2012 at 11:58 am

      def goods… saw a bit of the game… he looks like he is back to his best…

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    July 10, 2012 at 11:51 am

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      MMM Boags

      July 10, 2012 at 11:57 am

      Wow thanks for that. Is it yesterday already?


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        July 10, 2012 at 12:01 pm

        Sorry, didn’t keep up to date with the news, so this all new to me.
        Just putting it out there incase someone missed it, LIKE ME :P

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    July 10, 2012 at 11:58 am

    VDEF: Delidio, Goddard, Waters, Birchell, Suckling,, Carrazzo (sam shaw, Spurr)

    MID:Pendles , Ablett, Stanton, Boyd, Thompson,Mitchell, (Gibson, A.kennedy)

    RUCK: Cox, Giles, (Redden, Campbell)

    FWD: Franklin, Sidebottom, Robinson,Chapman, Martin,Beams, Zorko, (C.hampton,J.cameron)

    3 trades left, $24,800 in the bank.

    What should i do ?

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      July 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm

      Very strong team! What’s your ranking!

      Forward line is weak this week, so if you need to, Hampton to Murdoch if named.
      Hmmmm Waters. I’d trade to Scotland.

      If you’re sitting pretty in your leagues, I would take a donut this round in the forward line. Back will be a problem though with God, Waters and Spurr not playing. So upgrade backline first

      Hope this helps!


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        July 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm

        OK i was thinking of trading Beau to someone under 411k such as Dyson heppel and trading Giles to jacobs (who has a BE of 42) that will leave me with 1 trade for LTI. Any thoughts, I will either do this or hold me trades. I am ranked 1st in my league and avg: 1990 due to the MBR…

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          July 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm

          Or i could trade Beau — M.johnson

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

      You’re fielding a strong team, but your bench cover is weak. Ride out the season for as long as you can with those three trades, because if two of those big names go down, Hampton and Spurr won’t get you over the line.

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        July 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm

        ok but if i do that i will be copping a donut for waters

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          July 10, 2012 at 4:32 pm

          I also doubt that i will have many LTI

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            July 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm

            Haha, I hope you’re trolling. Love this comment

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            July 10, 2012 at 6:36 pm


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            July 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm


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      July 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm

      The only gap I see in this team that isn’t due to injuries is Giles. Upgrade him if you can.

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    July 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    Is anyone thinking of trading Franklin to Goodes. Make money to invest elsewhere? i.e. Turn 1 Premium and a Rookie into 2 x Premiums? However you go into finals without Franklin (?). Will Buddy take a couple of games to get back to best?

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

      Franklin looks like he has an easy run for finals, so I would be keeping him at all costs.
      Saying that, I don’t have him yet, but hopefully a couple games after his 70 will make him a tasty entree for finals time.

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    July 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Yes, I did have Dusty, God, Pendles, Waters and Johnson.
    Just managed to scrape 2130

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      July 10, 2012 at 12:28 pm

      Also had Zaha on the pine.
      I’ve kept the prick all this time and now have to trade him anyway.
      I hate/love DT!!

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    July 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Is it worth trading Old Macdonald now hes dropping form/value ive got $100,000 to spend on a midfielder, the best i can afford is Nathan Van Berlo (adelaide crows) worthwile trade or not?

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      July 10, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      Don’t do NVB, Gibbs looks back in form, I’d go Gibbs.

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        July 10, 2012 at 3:06 pm

        Agreed on avoiding NVB. Although at that price, can’t you trade Fossil to Goodes and open up your DPP links further?

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          July 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm

          really you think gibbs might be usefull i might get him cheers for the feedback

  17. Slappers


    July 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    carrots vs hanley?

    i think hanley backed his 134 and 120 against dogs and demons when he scored 119 againts the swans.

    think he will be a nice smokey… as everyone will be going waters – carrots…


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      July 10, 2012 at 1:57 pm

      If you haven’t got Carrots, you really should get him, but I love how Hanley’s been playing lately. My only concern is that his big numbers have came from weak opposition and I reckon, sooner or later, a tag will go to him because he is really damaging off half-back.

      I’d go with Carrots, but if yu believe Hanley will similar to Carrazzo every week, then it’ll be worth the punt!

      Hope this helps!

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        July 10, 2012 at 3:08 pm

        Hanley’s improved output relies on Drummond and Adcock being fit so he can play that role. If you trade in Hanley, you are trading in both Adcock and Drummonds injury concerns. Then again, some people like to live life on the edge.

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    July 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    2 options this week:

    Waters > Suckling
    Bartel > Rockliff


    Waters > Johnson
    Bartel > Watson

    Would appreciate your thoughts, after these two trades will leave me with 4 trades… hectic

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      July 10, 2012 at 1:41 pm

      I reckon option 1. Birchall and Suckling love kicking it around in the backline and Brisbane has a easy run home and Rockliff will EXPLODE!!

      Option 2 aint that bad either, but Essendon’s run home concerns me…

      Hope this helps!

    • Slappers


      July 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      option 2

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      July 10, 2012 at 2:33 pm

      Option 1. Watson may be knackered from a tough season….

  19. Slappers


    July 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    as a essendon supporter i was a bit shocked with the outfit they played in on the weekend…

    on their website it looked good in the photos on watson… but in the photo it looked like a dark charcoal colour…

    was not expecting that light grey look…

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    July 10, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Do i bring in goodes and keep some spare coin or ge pavlich in? only interested in the next 4 weeks (win the minor premiership for the cash)

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    July 10, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    How about

    Franklin to Goodes, and
    Shuey to Swan
    Leaving 3 trades

    If not, I will have Shuey, Franklin, Martin @ Goddard on the pine, and I will struggle to get Swan.

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    Mark Mellow

    July 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:10 pm


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    July 10, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Thoughts on Clarke to Scotland?
    Already have Carrots.

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:35 pm

      Good trade

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    July 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Thoughts on Clarke to Scotland?
    Already have Carrots

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    July 10, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    What to do with Kade Simpson. With 3 trades left.

    1) Should I hold onto him for up to 4 weeks. I have Gibson so he can fill that M6 spot for Simpson

    2) Trade him this week for Goodes

    3) Trade him in a couple of weeks when Murphy returns

    140k to work with

    Any thoughts other than criticism for not having many trades?

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:37 pm

      I’d wait for Murphy to return.

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      July 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      Hold him, especially if Gibson can maintain an 80 average over that time and increase his value. Do you have any other coverage in case another of your midfielders goes down?

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    July 10, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    ” A loss against Collingwood next week could have them as low as 10th”

    Sorry this is just plain wrong. They are 2 games clear of the teams below them and cannot drop from 7th.

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      July 10, 2012 at 4:41 pm

      Maybe it’s referring to position at the end of the home and away season? hmmm..

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    July 10, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Snap poll

    MacIntyre or Murdoch?
    Who will score more this week? Mac v GWS, Murdoch v Coll
    Who will average more?
    Who will play more games?
    Cheers for the great article McRath

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      July 10, 2012 at 4:40 pm

      I’m more swayed to Murdoch on all of the above, but I wouldn’t make up my mind until the teams come out. If one is on the bench and the other is on the feild, I’d be going off that information.

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    July 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Waters – Johnson

    Giles – Jacobs

    Thoughts ?

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      July 10, 2012 at 4:33 pm

      giles for jacobs definitely

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    July 10, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    morris for robbie tarrant or chirs yarran, i’m torn. thoughts please!?

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      July 10, 2012 at 4:42 pm

      Yarran for sure. Tarrant will most likely take on more defensive roles when Hamish McIntosh comes back.

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    July 10, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    wellinghams hit wasn’t “gutless” was going for the ball and couldnt stop mid-air. Whats gutless is kade simpsons playing style hanging outside packs for judd to give him the ball (just like the other soft carlton players).

    How about hampson trying to break swans back with his knee just to end up injuring himself what a tool hahahhahahaha

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      July 10, 2012 at 8:38 pm

      Another fine example of a stereotypical Collingwood supporter for all to see! Your parents must be proud

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    July 10, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Def: Deledio, Goddard, Waters, Birchall, H.Shaw, Carrazzo, Clarke Bench: Mohr, S.Shaw

    Mids: Pendlebury, GAJ, Thompson, Stanton, Montagna, Priddis, Bench: Pfeiffer, Gibson

    Ruc: Maric, Mumford Bench: BigO, Campbell

    Fwd: Sidebottom, Franklin, Beams, Robinson, Chapman, Martin, Zorko Bench: T. Adams, Hall

    6 trades, $54,900 left

    I’m aware my midfield isn’t that great, but at the moment I would only be able to one trade bring in Rockliff/Redden types for Montagna and Priddis, and I’m not sure that 10 point increase in average is worth a trade and cash. Fairly happy with my cover.

    However, I want to bring Goodes back in, but I’m unsure how. I was hoping he wouldn’t score quite as high this week and then swap him for Adams, but unfortunately I’m just short. Huge fan of Goodes, and it would mean Martin as a backup for Mids and Fwds (assuming Zorko goes F7). 6 trades left so I may be able to justify downtrading somewhere to make the cash, but I can’t see many suitable targets.

    On the flip side, one of my midfield low end premos could do with some upgrading, but I can’t really justify getting Goodes and this as I think it’ll leave me too low on trades going into finals.

    What to do?

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      July 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm

      your in a much better position then most… with 6 trades…

      maybe down grade either hall/pfeiffer to make some cash and then upgrade adams – goods…

      4 trades should be enough for finals…

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        July 10, 2012 at 5:34 pm

        you might also want to look at upgrading clarke before anything… seems to be your weakest link in the team at the moment…

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          July 10, 2012 at 7:16 pm

          I agree. Clarke to Scotland, Johnson, Hanley or Suckling would be your best bet. That’s the only glaring hole I can see. I am also assuming that you are holding Waters?

          Yarran isn’t the worst move you could make either for Clarke, it just depends on how ballsy you are.

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            July 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm

            Clarke to Yarran makes money, and is a gamble I’d take for D7 (seeing as my backups seem to have decent JS). But would you believe it… I’m still 5k short on Adams to Goodes! (No pun intended haha)


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    July 10, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Great article as always, but I think you overestimate the number of people who liked the Bombers clash strip! I’m not even a Bombers fan but it was awful!

    Anyways, I am truly torn about what trades to do this week. Going for league wins, am currently top four in the leagues I care about (though in one of them teams 2-8 have the same wins which is crazy), in my main one I have a soft opponent this week, but a tough run home from there.

    If fully fit and not suspended:

    Def: Deledio, Waters, Carrazzo, Hanley, Goddard, Broughton, Darley (Spurr, S Shaw)
    Mid: Swan, Ablett, Boyd, Watson, Thompson, Selwood, (McDonald, Sexton)
    Ruc: Cox, Giles (Redden, Campbell)
    Fwd: Franklin, Beams, Chapman, Martin, Robinson, Pearce, Zorko (Porplyzia, Devon Smith)

    7 trades and 75k in the kitty. My dilemma is mainly around Waters, how long he will be out and backline depth which is clearly lacking vs getting Goodes for a stupid low price.

    Option one: Smith or Porplyzia to Murdoch, then Spurr to Scotland (or other defender if I can be persuaded)

    Option two: Waters to Scotland, McDonald to Goodes.

    I don’t ordinarily request information like this (usually just lurk and get ideas, haha) but I’m in a pickle as I feel this decision could make or break my season.

    Cheers for anyones thoughts. Thanks, Gregga.

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      July 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm

      Tricky. Your backline cover isn’t great. In my eyes, a sideways trade from Waters to Scotland doesn’t really address immediate donut possibility in the backline and means you’ve traded out Waters which may be a decision that comes back to haunt you. Waters may be a 0 for now, but he’s a proven premo that you know will be in the team as soon as he’s fit. Spurr on the other hand…

      Then again… missing the Goodes train is a pain. Still, I think Option one.

      In summary:

      Option one moves deadweight in Spurr off the team. Deadweight kept in Waters is a proven premo that will come straight back into the team when fit. Introduces an unknown in Murdoch as cover (I know nothing about him personally) and ejects either a forward who will make the team every week or a first year rookie that may miss games but is a very handy DPP cover. Most likely strengthens backline in the long run, but may be a sacrifice of forward cover (and mid, if Smith goes).

      Option two moves current deadweight in Waters off the team. Deadweight kept is Spurr who is a first year player not getting any games. Is fit, still not making the team, and probably not a great scorer. Brings in Goodes who gives plenty of flexibility and is a champion. Ejects a mid cover that is… inconsistent in terms of games at best. Strengthens your forward line and gives you an option for good Midfield cover if one of your premos is out for a week.

      So yeah, depends which area of the team you feel needs the most improvement. If Goodes comes in and slots into the forward line, that’ll mean dropping Zorko or Pearce to the bench. Zorko is in red hot form, and I’m unsure you want a $300k+ player on the bench while having potential donuts in the backline.

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        July 10, 2012 at 9:49 pm

        First of all, thanks for the in depth response. Very thorough!

        I tend to agree with you though. Missing the Goodes train makes me feel slightly ill, but Spurr missing probably cost me a game in the MBR’s and has potential to do so again in the run home. I can cop a zero this week however, I will still more than likely get across the line. If Darley gets selected this week I’m tempted to get Goodes this week, wait another week and reassess. Only down one down back, get Goddard back next week. I can always trade one of those forward players to a cheapie like McIntyre next week to free up the cash for the run home. It all really boils down to selections really. Tbetta tweeted that Spurr is in the selection frame. Here’s hoping!

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      July 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      Darley to Yarran straight swap IMO

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        July 10, 2012 at 8:48 pm

        Cop the donut this week.Goddard in next week.Waters will be a great in come finals time

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    July 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    I had Goddard, Pendles, Martin, Johnson and Waters but my only donut was Waters…

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    To be honest while I didnt exactly love the Dons strip which made them look overweight, I must say NOT once did I get confused with who was who, which is a massive issue when those two teams meet… so overall it was a success.

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    July 11, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Hi guys. I have a lot of indecision and was hoping for some thoughts…

    Do I
    1. Downgrade zaha (to a mid/fwd or straight mid) and leave zorko as F7 but miss the goodes train. Then use the cash later in the year to upgrade Clarke and Barlow come finals. Leaves 3 trades.

    Or 2. Sideways zaha to goodes leaving zorko as M7/F8. This scenario means I’ll need to trade porps or zorko come finals to generate cash for last 2 upgrades come finals.

    Both these scenarios mean holding onto to waters.

    D: God, carrots, Scotland, Birchell, lids, waters, clarke (darley, s shaw)
    M: swan, pendles, GAJ, Boyd, Thommo, Barlow (zorko, Gibson)
    R: mummy, Ryder (Campbell, redden)
    F: Franklin, robbo, Sidey, beams, Martin, ZAHA, chappy (porps, hall)

    Any thoughts much appreciated. Cheers. :)

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      July 11, 2012 at 11:28 am

      Whoops wrong thread…sorry.

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