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‘Par’ – Round 15

Here you go DT fans. This is the ‘par’ for Round 15. Get in there to check out how it’s worked out if you are a little confused, but it’s pretty much spot on once again this week. SuperCoach ‘par’ is also listed inside.

This is based on the scores from the teams who are ranked in the top 5k overall and averaged out. We thought this gives the best indication of the ‘better’ teams so we can all gage our weekly efforts based on theirs. We think this number is about right… therfore ‘par’ for each round and will be posted here in DT TALK shortly after each round (thanks to Virtual Sports). There’s no point averaging the top 25k or everyone in the competition as some of these guys would probably forget to do their teams. So the top 5k average is the mark.

If you don’t think this is a fair indication, then ppffthhh. Take it for what it is.

For those who play that other silly game The SuperCoach ‘PAR’ was 2304pts

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    PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)

    July 9, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Finally made it above the par this week with my 2263. Been so close lately. Went from 6370 to 4607 in the rankings

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    July 9, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    2080 :(

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      July 9, 2012 at 9:34 pm

      +1… wish this was the British Open, then I’d crave being as far under par as I have been!

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        July 10, 2012 at 3:40 pm

        think i got an eagle then

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    July 9, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Excellent. It’s like shooting a 6, realising it wasn’t a long par 4, but a short par 5! A bogey is good with me, think I fell 10 to 20 points short.

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    July 9, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Got my highest score for the year in this round 2315 :s one of these weeks i might pick a good captain. getting hot at the right time of year though

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    July 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Wellingham just got 3 weeks.

    OK, so I don’t have Sharrod Wellingham in my dreamteam – nor do I think he is that instrumental to Collingwood’s tilt at another runners-up this year. In short, I am not biased.

    However – watching the incident in real time proves there is nothing about it that warrants suspension. It’s here, in real-time, in case you haven’t seen it.

    Both players, Simpson and Shellingham, are going for the ball. They either have to fiercely attack it, or stand back and get accused of dogging it. It’s get the ball, or don’t. Less than a second to decide. You want it, or not?

    It’s courageous of Simpson, and yes it’s dangerous if you don’t know what’s coming. But you can’t blame the other bloke for doing the same, can you?

    Slow motion has a lot to answer for. As Carlton Draught have proven in their telly ad, everything in slow motion looks worse than it is – that chip coming out of that dude’s mouth looks like a missile.

    However there was nothing malicious, premeditated or even unsportsmanlike like about Shellingham’s hit, and he shouldn’t have been suspended.

    Hair On!


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      Blue boys

      July 9, 2012 at 5:16 pm

      I think you have gotten your assessment of this one a bit wrong.
      I was watching it live and said “He’s f**ked”, watched it in replays and said “He’s f**ked” and have since watched it in slow-mo and guess what i said……..”He’s f**ked”!!!

      Wellingham doesn’t even put his arm up as though he is attempting to spoil…….he isn’t even near to watching the ball as it gets to Simpson and he’s make his mind up to “run thru” Simpson well before the balls arrived.
      To be honest I think he’s lucky to just get 3………look at what other have done recently to get the same.
      BUT more importantly i think he’s very lucky that he didn’t really hurt Simpson.

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        Disco DB

        July 9, 2012 at 5:39 pm

        Broke his jaw…

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        July 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm

        Compared to Taylor Walkers tackle on Morris, how on earth could this constitute 5 weeks?
        (original penalty was 5, he got 3 weeks due to good record + early plea).

        Wello is clearly going for the chest grab and notices Simpo in the last moments after he has already leaped. He definitely deserved 3 weeks as the base penalty, as the outcome of the bump was indeed rather forceful and high, regardless of intent. But 5 weeks is just ludicrous…

        Back on topic, just shy of par this week no thanks to Hargravers, Stevie J & Darley all drop-outs.

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          deez go

          July 9, 2012 at 8:19 pm

          yep-looking at simpson too make sure he hurts simpson is really going for the chest grab, especially with the arms tucked in.

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          The Butcher

          July 10, 2012 at 4:41 pm

          Not that long ago that was play on,,

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        Waltzing Matera

        July 9, 2012 at 6:00 pm

        you def got it wrong Hairy… and I dont care for for either team involved. Fact is at no time does he ever attempt to even pretend to play the ball. Now the interesting thing is that his action ruled Simpson out for the rest of the game (and then some) but his penalty will be served against other teams which means nothing to the team he infringed against.

        AFL at the top level is the only game that I can think of where you can’t get sent off. If the AFL hierarchy can use video to check whether someone got their fingernail on the ball, then why dont they use video to look at incidents where players are injured and if need be send the villain off for the rest of the game. Only a matter of time before a Franklin or someone gets taken out in a GF…worst that can happen atm is a 50m and time off next year.

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          July 9, 2012 at 7:24 pm

          “Fact is at no time does he ever attempt to even pretend to play the ball.”

          That’s crap.

          Wellingham is completely going for the ball. He covers a lot of territory very quickly – he does it 20 times a game – he can read the play very well and has great closing speed. He gave himself a proper chance of marking it, and beat Shaw to it who is pretty handy over 20 metres as well.

          You need to actually watch the replay in real time rather than sit there with the slow-mo button on. Slow-mo is to blame.

          For example: In real-time I could meet you, shake your hand, have a chat, and you think I’m a great bloke.

          In a later slow mo video replay you might catch me checking out your girlfriend’s tits for a split second, inadvertently, because every man does it.

          Does that make me a bad person? No, it doesn’t. After all, you didn’t even notice.

          Shellingham protecting himself in mid air is a bit like me checking out your girlfriend’s tits. He has no choice – it’s instinctual. It’s half a blink and he is moving as fast as hell. He had to either win the ball, or decide to stand back much, much earlier and let Heater win it, which isn’t his way. (Nor Heater’s way unfortunately lately).

          Watch it again.

          Hair on!


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            Blue boys

            July 9, 2012 at 7:42 pm

            You must be watching something a bit different to Nathan Buckley……he said not that long after the game that Wellingham would be having a holiday. Very rare for a coach to say that.
            Must have been something in those live footage, because Bucks wouldn’t have been watching slow-mos so soon after the game.
            By the way, having watched a few Pies games recently I’m not convinced with the reckless side of it. He has been a suspension waiting to happen recently, with a lot of swinging arms instead of tackles. More surprised it wasn’t one of them that got him games to be honest.

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            Peter.. WA

            July 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm

            Sorry Dude or is it deluded dude haha Whatever you have it all Wrong mate…

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            Waltzing Matera

            July 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm

            great closing speed…and doesnt have his eyes on the ball for the last 5 paces! real time, slo mo..look at it however you like..he knew well before he got to that contest that he was going to run through Simpson. Hair on??? Hair in eyes on this one champ….

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      Disco DB

      July 9, 2012 at 5:40 pm

      Reverse courage is what it is.

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      July 9, 2012 at 6:07 pm

      I agree with you in some aspects Mr. Hairy. I don’t think anyone (except for Beau, love him) goes for the shoulder bump to cause pain these days. Sharrod’s bump like many was a defensive action, if I was running towards another guy and on line for a mid air collision, I would also break the impact with my shoulder.

      If you take the slow motion out of it, there is no time for anyone ot realise that they may be hurting someone else. In that 0.4 seconds you’re protecting yourself!

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        July 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm

        Got what he deserved. should have got 4 weeks.
        Eyes on the ball…guts.
        Eyes on the man …gutless.

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      July 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm

      Lucky to get away with 3 weeks IMO. No eyes on the ball high impact high contact and reckless. Either go for the ball or not. dont get half way realise your going to get hurt going in the contest, bitch out, drop the shoulder and polax the guy with real eyes for the ball. Classic Collingwood scum. Should be 4 weeks to put him on par with Simpson.

      PS. Ruining Simpsons 158 consecutive game streak

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      July 10, 2012 at 3:38 pm

      he got him in the head,he got 3 weeks ,end of story

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    July 9, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    Pretty accurate .. ranked well inside the top 1000, scored 2165 ( 2 zeros). Dropped only 2 places :)

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    Grim Reaper

    July 9, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Scored 2233 this week..Ranking went from 9234 to 7205…

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    Disco DB

    July 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    Pooped out 1906, was raped by no Waters, SJ and the end of Hargrave’s career, which would have put me on par.

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    July 9, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    Is the par the mean, median or mode of the top 5000 scores?

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      July 9, 2012 at 6:10 pm

      I would assume it’s mean. Median would probably be more appropriate though.
      I’m quite hungry

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      July 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm

      I was hoping the standard deviation would be calculated as well

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    July 9, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Happy with my 2268 without Goddard and Martin. Put me 781 overall so happy to be in the top 1,000 finally.

    6 trades left and really tempted to bring Goodes in for Hall but don’t know if I should save the trade. Any thoughts? If I do I will have Hayes (mids) and Martin/Zorko (fwds) on the bench as cover, and my team would be complete except for Giles the only weak link in the ruck with Cox.

    Is 5 trades enough from now until finals?

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    Waltzing Matera

    July 9, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Hall is highly unlikely to play again this year (McKenna and he don’t see eye to eye) but he won’t lose money either Tempting to bring in Goodes I know but is he going to score more than Zorko? lot of points sitting on the bench. top 1000 with 5 trades is pretty good I imagine…Not an easy call…good luck…personally I think your better off getting rid of Giles for Roughy or Maric

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      July 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      Thanks mate, and great name by the way (loved Matera). Yeah good call on Zorko but I probably wouldn’t have him on the pine. I would probably start Zorko ahead of Martin up front and sub Hall into the mids to trade him to Goodes. Yeah tough call and I have enough cash to upgrade Redden to another decent ruck instead so I can keep Giles as back up.

      Maybe worth waiting with Pendles, Watson and Murphy all expected to drop in the future but I liked Goodes because of the security of the DPP link.

      Man DT does my head in! Thanks again for the advice.

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    July 9, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Hey id likesome thoughts on my team – Kinda down shitcreak Trade wise.

    2 Trades Left with $39200 Left in the Kitty.

    Back :Deledio, Suckling,Scotland, Broughton,Newman,Mohr,Shaw (Bench=Goddard,Darley)

    Mid:Boyd,Ablett,S Selwood,Carrazzo, HOrsley,Wingard(Bench=Shiel,Crisp)

    Ruc:Cox,Giles (Stephenson, Redden)



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      July 9, 2012 at 8:39 pm

      start planning for next year :P

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      Dream 22

      July 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm

      What he said ^^^
      Im interested to know how you managed to use 20 trades and still have a team as bad as that?
      I think the team I started the year with would be better off then your team.
      Sorry mate

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    July 9, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    When Marc murphy comes back wont carazzo’s scores decline

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      deez go

      July 9, 2012 at 8:25 pm

      Nup, look at Carrazzo’s scores from the start of the year. Carrazzo is a run with player who goes head to head. Carrots got plenty of the ball when he tagged pendles in round 3.

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    July 10, 2012 at 10:46 am

    Glad to see I finally got above par. 2214 with a donut from Waters.

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    July 10, 2012 at 3:16 pm 2298 and went from 9504 to 6538

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