The Friday Scramble: Round 18 Part 1

FridayScrambleSo we find ourselves at the second of the two bye periods.  Thankfully for us playing DT or SC we don’t have to worry about having players missing as the AFL have kindly made this one a split round.  Personally I would prefer this to happen for both of these periods each year.  However, I don’t work at AFL house so this probably won’t happen.  Anyway, what this means for us is that we now have plenty of things to talk about this week.  Whilst we don’t miss players though, it doesn’t make this round particularly easy.  It means you have to have your witts about you.  Don’t do anything stupid.

Loophole and Split Rounds….

So, as we know a split round means plenty of loophole opportunities this week.  Remember it isn’t just your captain that you can loophole you can take a punt on a 50/50 guy to see if they score ok.  However…. there are rules and caveats you must beware of.  So here are a few of my thoughts.

1. How deep do you go?

One thing you may be thinking about doing is seeing how someone goes who is a questionable player.  This could be someone like Shane Kersten.  What you may consider is putting him on the bench with the E on him.  If he is better than your other option, then put the non playing guy on the ground and your other option on the bench with no E.

2. What a Captain

Clearly there is the regular Captain Loophole that Calvin has discussed in his Calvin’s Captains Article.  So you all understand this one, put the VC on a guy this week and if he s ok, then bring on a non player and give him the C with your actual player on the bench with the E.

3. Big Risks

The massive issue here is that you may not have enough bench cover to do any of this!  If you decide to do any loopholing, particularly with Emergency loopholing, the risk is that you actually need your emergency the following week due to either selection issues or late withdrawals.  This will be even riskier if you need to make any trades in the first week as you may get caught out.

Your Captain choice or the Non Playing guy you plan to use MUST be playing in the second week otherwise he will be locked in.

To get a look at all of the options and how you can do it right and wrong make sure you check out Calvin’s Article as he has some great examples.


This is pretty straight forward this week.  Here is how it plays out in each of the different games.

  • Real Dreamteam – All first week teams will be locked out on Friday night with the remaining teams locked out on Friday night next week.
  • AFL Fantasy – As for RDT with all players from first week teams locked out this week and the rest next Friday.
  • Supercoach – No change at all with the regular rolling lockout.
  • Ultimate Footy – Check with your league commissioner or rules as each league may be set up differently.

Important information on REVERSING TRADES!!

In Real Dreamteam and Supercoach once the First Friday Lockout hits this week all trades will be NON REVERSIBLE until the end of the round.  So any trades you make next week will not be able to be reversed!  So be very very careful next week.  Of course we will remind you here at DTTalk, but just be careful.

In AFL Fantasy we have been told that as long as it doesn’t involve a player from the first week you should be able to revers your trades.  Also as long as they aren’t part of a double trade.  Personally I won’t be taking any risks here and will only pull the trigger when I am completely sure of what I want to do.

The most important piece of advice I can give you here is that if you are only doing a trade involving players that are playing in the second week DO NOT TRADE THIS WEEK.  Anything can happen between now and then, there may be an injury at training or anything like that. It simply isn’t worth the risk.

Selection Surprises and PIG DOWN!

Well it wasn’t a surprised, many people suspected that Aaron Sandilands wouldn’t play this week and we had it confirmed yesterday afternoon when he didn’t board the plane out of Perth.  In AFL Fantasy with your two trades a week, it is time to go.  However, in the limited trades versions, if you have plenty of trades then pull the trigger, but if not and you have cover you may want to save your trade.  We also found out yesterday that Dane Swan would be out for 4 weeks.  In all versions of the game then this is the time to trade him out.  He is out of form and an absence of 4 weeks (3 games) is enough to grade him out.  Andrew Walker is out for the rest of the season, so there is another trade you may need to make.  Popular bench cover Cameron Shenton has been omitted this week.  So if you were going to use him as a cover for Swanny then it won’t work for you.  However Adam Treloar back will help some teams out a heap!  In news that will make Footy Rhino ecstatic is that Michael Hibberd returns this week to bolster many a backline!  Goddard returns from suspension and Ryan Griffen returns from injury.


I don’t think that SJ is that much of a unique as I think quite a lot of teams have him.  However, there aren’t many teams without Beams so that is likely to be more unique.  Obviously this would be a purely luxury trade.  As long as you won’t need that trade next week then that is fine.  Personally I wouldn’t make it this week, I would be more likely to do it next round if you wanted to.  Clearly your Sandi to Martin trade was a good one!

I must say I am not all that sold on Mike Pyke  he is only averaging 63.  Whilst he had a 92 last week that is his first score over 60 since round 3.  So no he isn’t an option if you are looking to bring him in.  But if you already have him, then yes I guess he would do as bench cover.  Now that we know that Sandi is out, downgrading him is one option you have and you could go down to a Cegler who seems to have cemented his spot in the Hawks side or you could go to a Jamar.  If Sandi is your other ruck with Martin then you should be looking to upgrade him to the best Ruck you can get.

Clearly your best option here is to keep those two guys as your bench cover if you can and upgrade Ellis and McGovern.  I am assuming you are in AFL Fantasy here where trades aren’t an issue and you have a STACK of cash then go for it.  This would give you a very solid bench that you could rely on for big scores as we get closer to the business end of the season.  After having a chat to Suckling last week at the Adelaide Oval he promised me he would be doing his best for his AFL Fantasy coaches. (disclaimer: promises may or may not have been actually made)

  Things To Remember

  • If You Plan to use the Loophole.  READ CALVIN’S ARTICLE. – Loopholing isn’t for the feint hearted.  Make sure you read the article and plan ahead.
  • Careful with your Trades. – If you are planning on trades this week I would only make necessary ones in the first week just in case of players being dropped in the second week’s matches.
  • Retirements give Opportunity – As the retirements start to flow in, for those that leave immediately this opens up spots in teams for our rookies to get more exposure.  So keep an eye out as those guys on your bench that haven’t been playing may now start to get a game on field.
  • Don’t try and outsmart yourself – You don’t want to stuff up with no one else to blame (it happened to me last week!)

So only a few games to watch this week but I am sure there will be something that sparks our interest.  I think I have pointed it out enough so far, just be very careful with your teams this week and watch where you place the non playing guys from this round as it will have a massive bearing on your teams for next weekend.

I know there has already been a lot of love for Maxy and Lenny with their retirements this week, but it would be remiss of me not to mention Dom Cassisi from my club.  He averaged 102, 95, 98 and 90 from 2008 thru 2011 but the amazing thing was that in that time he averaged 6, 8, 8 and 8 tackles per game!  He was a tackling machine and even averaged 1 hit out per game in 2011, not bad for a little guy!  Anyway, all of these guys have been great players and Lenny and Dom have even been in my teams in the past (sorry Maxy).  Enjoy your retirement guys.

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Cheers til next week guys, @pkd73



  • Hey fellas. Swan –> SJ and Tex –> McGlynn/Buddy/Motlop (all good PODs)

    I still have sandi and shenton but they can wait right?

    • Swan to SJ is good, and text to Mcglynn in my opinion. I have Mcglynn and he hasn’t let me down much since I brought him in. But buddy is in good form.

      I’m getting rid of Sandi, Shelton can wait maybe, although he may drop in price.

      • Shenton won’t drop in value (unless he’s a late call up) as he’s not playing.

  • Thoughts on downgrading Sandi to C.Wood, the new bloke,at the blues? It means I will still have cover on my bench if he holds his spot, while making some cash.

    Any help would be handy.

    • disaster, you want your 2 starting rucks to be premo. if you don’t have Martin to replace Sandi, then I would trade in Goldstein. Big run home expected

    • How would Wood be cover? I’m assuming that you’ve swung Martin into your ruck and switched Sandi to your pine?

      Kreuzer’s listed as 2 weeks and Warnock might simply be having a rest, so he may not hold his spot long and he’s a bit expensive in Fantasy anyway (although reasonably priced in RDT). I’d probably opt for Ben Brown instead who’s cheaper and job security looks much better.

  • Option A: Suckling -> Mitchell / Sandi -> Mumford
    Then Burgoyne -> Rocky (Bartel DPP) and Shenton -> D.Barry

    Option B: Suckling -> Mitchell / Sandi -> Mumford
    Then Miles -> Rocky / Shenton -> D.Barry

    Which is better?

    • option A, keep Miles as M8 or M9

      Look at Goldstein too if you want unique

      • Miles would be on the field, I’d move Bartel to take Burgoyne’s place

    • As both your trades for this round are identical why don’t you wait 2 weeks and ask then? A lot can change between now and then…

  • Also Mumford or Jacobs?

  • A couple of questions for my AFL Fantasy team:

    My rucks consist of Jacobs, Sandi and Martin. Do I downgrade Sandi to Brown to make some cash and play Martin at R2 from now on? Or hold onto Sandi?

    Also, best replacement for Swan? I already have Rocky, JPK, Pendles, Beams, Selwood, Barlow and Sloane.

    Cheers in advance!

    • I did the Sandi down to brown trade as Martin is a safe player to have in R2 for sure IMO but if you aren’t sold on him then i’d look to downgrade elsewhere, but keep in mind the sandi downgrade will probably make you a lot more cash.

      i’d recommend Greenwood SJ or Cotchin.

      Hope this helps

  • I plan to do Swan > Rocky, can wait to second half of split round. To make up the cash two best trade out candidates play this week.

    Should I do Sandi > Cameron Wood or Shenton > Morabito? Any other mid cashcows worth considering?

    • Aidan Riley from Melbourne

    • Jesse Lonergan 218k BE 33 has great JS and no gazza means more mid time too kids hard as nail and just starting to find his feet again.

  • trades this week: Sandi > B Brown, Tex > Boomer

    which leaves me with:

    RUC: Ryder, Martin (Brown, Currie)

    FWD: D Martin, Jack, Parker, Dahlhaus, Boomer and ? (C Cameron, Kersten)

    I would have had a full forward line of premiums had i not had to replace Sandi this week so instead will look to bring in Buddy next week.

    so my question is, who is the best option to start in F6 this wweek out of Brown, Kersten or Cameron? Was going to try and use the emergency loophole however i think Cameron will be playing this round.

  • gday guys.

    stupid question most likely..
    do we have 2 trades to cover the split round?
    or do we live in a fantasy world and get 2 this week and 2 next week?

    current trades.
    C Cameron -> M Duffy (pure coin grab)
    A Sandilands -> K Jack, moving DPP S Martin to the ruck

    • only have the two for the round mate haha

      Trades are solid, though i’d look at downgrading someone like Shenton instead of Cameron but that’s just being picky

      • would definitely look at trading Shenton if I had him in my team.
        missed the boat there!!

  • Thoughts on getting in Robbie Gray over Buddy? Need consistency and can’t afford a 50 from Buddy. Plus Gray has the Dees. Only concern is his injury…anyone know how serious?

    • IMO I would prefer to have Buddy because he’s hit some incredible form, but you’re right in the fact he may drop the odd sub-par score. Robbie Gray has been named, so you would’ve thought he’d play, and I’ve also heard that he’d definitely play from Ken Hinkley or someone. Also, remember the Dees aren’t giving away as many points as in the past. Hope that helps

  • Great work Dunny! Yet another brilliant article.
    I have a question: Should I keep Anthony Miles as my M9, or should I trade him next week (round) to a Kieran Jack type and do a little DPP action? This would mean that Cameron Shenton is my M9, but I have a strong F6, which will become my F7, and if I know that say Rocky’s been suspended for a week or something, I can just DPP a FWD/MID to cover his spot and just play my F7. If I did these trades, my team would be just about perfect on field (IMO) and would have strong cover on all lines except for the MIDs. Thoughts are much appreciated!

  • Elasticity: go with upgrading to Jack. Top idea. You can always then downgrade somewhere else and upgrade Shenton before finals, alternatively downgrade him to Morabito next wk, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he became the sub all season as he’s the perfect impact player. Should be in Freos best 21 though

    • Cheers! The other option would be to trade in Jack or Buddy (leaning towards Buddy) this week, and downgrading Miles to my new F7 next week (round). This would probably allow me to get a few more points this week, which in the end is why I make trades. What do you think?

      • not sold on buddy he does have some big games but drifts in and out to much for my liking would prefer 90 to 100 every week than the rollercoaster that is buddy.

        • That’s true, but I want the big scores to get me higher in the rankings. It’s really a 50/50 call for me between the two

  • I already traded Derickx for Brown as emerg ruckman, should i now trade Wingard to K jack this week, as i cant next week cos Wingard is playing, or wait the week after spilt round?

    • TRADE TRADE TRADE wingard is no where near the DT scorr he was last year and jack is a good choice but i think Zaharakis would be a better option.

  • Should I trade Sandi out to Duncan or hold on the bench for a week and play Kersten on field.

    This would mean HOLD: Ebert to Zaharakis, TRADE: Ebert hold.

    I’m hoping the Sandi injury isn’t worse than a week off…

    • cant you use both your trades to get both players out???? i think Zaka is a must but duncan you will regret by years end there are better options out there. what your fwd line look like at the mo???????

    • Sandi will be back next week too only a sore back just being rested this week so he gets the full 2 week break he will be back for the carlton game.

      • Dusty, Danger, Stef Martin, Boomer, Jack, Zorko.
        Already have a trade used on Swan > JPK.

        Can I trust Kersten is the real question?

  • thoughts on Macrae trading into team for Swan at M8

    • SUICIDE dont be fooled by his 168 better options at that price. what are your other mids?

  • any one think swan to goddard is a good trade only in 8000 teams after his suspension good POD???

    • Yeah i think its good. Next week i am trading suckling to him via Hanley dpp.

  • DEF: Bartel, McVeigh, Dal Santo Swallow, Kelly, Hanley (Bews, Delaney)
    MID: Rockliff, Johnson, Pendlebury, Barlow, Cotchin, Swan, Beams, Jelwood (O’Brien, Lloyd)
    RUC: Sandilands, Jacobs (Thurlow, Currie)
    FWD: Martin, Harvey, Dangerfield, Parker, Duncan, Walker (Shenton, Kersten)

    Cash: 10k remaining

    I had originally planned on going Lloyd to O’Rourke and Walker to Jack, however now that Swan and Sandi are out should I get rid of swan first for someone like Kennedy or Sloane or stick him on the bench or do something similar with Sandi a go through with my original trade?

    What do you guys think? Greatly appreciated :)

    • Swan will be out until round 21 at the earliest. I wouldn’t even consider holding on to him.

      Sandilands should only be out for 1 game given he will have another week off next week thanks to the split round. But given your ruck bench, it doesn’t look like you have much of an option.

      I’d personally trade Swan to Mitchell (he’s cheap as chips) and it should make you an handy 30/40k to upgrade Sandi with?

  • Best replacement for Sandi????


    • Sam Jacobs would be the best of anyone, I’m assuming you already have him if you left him out of this list?

      I’d personally say Goldstein is the best option of the ones you listed.

      Mumford wouldn’t be a bad option, but GWS do have a hard run home.
      Lobb was an out this week I believe?
      And I personally don’t rate Minson on the same level as the other premium rucks.

  • Fellas I’m in a pickle, my team is

    Def: J.Bartel, J.McVeigh, D.Swallow, M.Hibberd, K.Simpson, M.Suckling (X.Ellis, A.Georgiou)

    Mid: S.Pendlebury, M.Barlow, S.Johnson, R.Sloane, T.Libratore, D.Beams, D.Swan (C.Shenton, Z.O’Brien)

    Ruck: S.Jacobs, A.Sandilands (B.Brown, L.Lowden)

    Fwd: D.Martin, L.Parker, P.Dangerfield, J.Gunston, P.Chapman, N.Riewoldt (S.Kersten, J.Redpath)

    With 289k in the bank.

    My problem is that I have all 3 of Dane Swan, Aaron Sandilands and Cameron Shenton. In addition to this, i also missed the Stefan Martin boat.

    My options are
    1) C.Shenton > A.Morabito (362k in the bank)
    2nd bye week – D.Swan > S.Mitchell (406,339 exactly left)

    This would mean i have to cop Ben Brown’s score this week and hold Sandilands. Next week I’d move S.Mitchell to that backs, and upgrade X.Ellis to a premium midfielder.

    2) A.Sandilands > T.Goldstien (250k in the bank)
    2nd bye week – D.Swan > S.Mitchell (294,032 exactly left)

    This would mean i risk having no midfield bench cover in the most unpredictable round of the year.

    • IMO i would go sandilands to goldstein and swan to JPK because you have a lot of cash left. sam Mitchell wont move much and has a poor record against the swans. Id go JPK and next week go suckling to mitchell.

      • Legend, thanks for your help mate.

        If I’m lucky I might have just enough cash to trade Shenton to Mitchell next round and have the luxury of Suckling as my D7 and Ellis as my M9

    • Agree with Jacob except I’d get Stefan Martin over Goldy. Have a look at Goldys last 2 finals series. :S

  • Thoughts on Mcintosh for sandi ?

  • Option 1

    Langdon to warren & wingard to boomer

    Option 2

    Janesch to warren & wingard to Zaha

    Janesch is currently d7 and langdon d8


  • Thoughts on sandi to zac Clarke for one round? Have to go swan to Stevie j and then only have about 400k for a sandi replacement, Clarke been in good form and versing saints who leak points to ruckman?

  • Is it worth dealing with Sandi next round and playing Ben Brown for cover?

  • Ill be playing brown this week for sandi

    • hmmm… its a big call.

      Brown is not likely to score more than ~60

      I really wanted to downgrade Langdon (DEF bench), but feel I should use that trade to go Sandi > Jacobs.

      Any thoughts?

  • heres my delimeh fellas ok well i need some cash so im downmgrading beams to riley from melbourne then i can either go brodie smith> s mitchell, or dalhaus to zaha or luke parker, or i can get rid of zorko but that would on leave me with 495k, and just shy of buddy, any sujestions on what i should do?

  • Is Derickx safe to use as a loophole? Or may he play?

  • who should i start in F6 for this week? Kersten, Cameron or B Brown? does anyone know for sure if Cameron is returning this week?

    • Surely starting Cameron would be lunacy? Go Kersten vs GWS. And get it together man!

    • If you put CC on field and benched Kersten this week I would admit yourself into a mental hospital.

  • Can I trade someone who played in the first week after they played (and before lockout for the second week)?

  • Yes true but sandi has on my been averaging 75 the last 3 week’s and if he wasn’t rested most people would still play him, so if brown gets 65 we loose 10 points which should be made up easily with my other trades

  • Is sandi > martin worth it or should i be safe and go goldstein? or someone else?

  • Swanny to Libba or Ward lads? Cheers

  • libba or fyfe

  • I agree hollywood. you could upgrade sandi to another premium ruck, but i will play ben brown and spend my 300K upgrading swan and walker. i think sandi may come good and go back to averaging 85++ after 2 weeks off

  • 4 f%*ck sake, help me someone, I have Jacobs, sandi, ceglar and some other dud who hasn’t played, anyway should I trade out sandi for brown anyway just to make some cash.? I really want selwood and need the cash to upgrade. However I am also aware that if I do my 2 trades today I caould be stuffed have plenty of backup on the benches. should I just wait for the next round before doing a trade to Selwood or hope that some players make cash and I can get a player that is in the $550 grand? Please help please I beg

    • malteaser, I’d ditch Sandi for someone like Mummy, Minson, Lobbe if you have the extra $35k.

      • Forgot to say, if you can’t afford the extra cash, someone like Jamar. Your first priority is making sure all on-field positions have reliable scorers in them.