Dream Team Extra: Round 16


Another round of mini-carnage gone and most scraped through relatively unscathed. A few midfield guns did misfire though, resulting in a lower scoring range than the weekend before. But going by the commentary on DT Talk and the twatter, most of you coaches are going well and are starting to peak for the finals – great stuff!!

News-wise, the sky fell on our heads early on in the week with the wrong kind of Mad Monday (sorry to steal your trademark @RLGriffin85!). Unfortunately the carnage is set to continue this round with additional DT-relevant ‘outs’ on top of the suspended pair of Goddard and Martin. Read on for the weekly wrap of some misery, little bit of sunshine and a teary farewell to a favourite…


Breaking News

This morning, Knee-Jerker extraordinaire @adzman78 re-tweeted an SEN snip that Paddy Ryder might have copped a calf injury at training yesterday. Given the Bomber’s cagey tactics in naming Zaharakis (even though he tore his quad muscle in training) and then announcing his withdrawl at the last minute, I suggest you select a ruck EMG if you have Paddy starting on the paddock. Y’know, just in case…


Watered Down

This Monday night tweet from West Coast’s Communications Manager, Gary Stocks, was not the way we wanted the week to start…

So Waters has had his knee cleaned out and the early prognosis is 3-5 weeks. With Goddard out for another week, a missing Beau in our backline quiver will cause a fair bit of pain. Unlike Scotland’s miracle cure, I doubt Water’s will be back inside of 3 weeks, especially as the Eagles will want him right for the finals. Word on the Perth airwaves is that it could be up to six weeks! But can you hold if you’re running low on trades? Or are you pulling the trigger and swapping him out for another gun?


Definitely No-Buddy

Shortly after the Water’s bombshell came this beauty…

Yup, a double-whammy on Monday night with Franklin crossed off the Hawks’ selection list for 3 weeks. How’s that for a mangled forward line if you’ve got the Dust-Buddy combo? Well, here’s the official release on the Hawthorn site and the silver lining of the otherwise stinky turd of injured guns is this particular line: The Hawks are hopeful, however, that Franklin could make a return sooner rather than later. Let’s hope so, ‘cos I think we’ve borne through enough pain in the past 5 weeks!


The Cheap Heap

In his third game back from injury, Adam Goodes racked up 137 as his Swans steamrolled the Lions. He’s bottomed out at $369k this week and with a BE of 48, now is the time to jump on and ride the end-of-season specialist’s scores all the way home!

Another to keep an eye on is the soon-to-return Marc Murphy, who has rated himself an 80-85% chance to play tomorrow night against the Kangas. His BE for this week is 208 and with a projected drop of around $50k next week, he’ll be a sub-$400k pickup in a fortnight. He could arguably be the ‘Bargain Of 2012’, so big watch!!!


Grab A Bagful

Of Mark Baguley, that is. Essendon made this announcement yesterday:

As stats-guru @FantasyFreako tweeted soon after, Bags has averaged a healthy 84 ppg in the VFL this year. He’s a mature-aged WAFL recruit and at a very modest $85.8k, may be a handy DEF/MID DPP come finals time. Of course, watch him over the next couple of rounds, but there’s reason to be confident that he’ll play given Paul Hamilton (Bombers GM of Football Operations, which I guess is kind of a big deal at Windy Hill) going on record to say that they’d only elevate a rookie if they planned to play him that round.


Pendles Plays!

On a positive note, Scott Pendlebury should play this round after spending six weeks recovering from his leg fracture. He’s featured in the #DTExtra for weeks on end as speculation peaked heading into each Thursday’s team selection news, but this should be the last time he gets a mention in this write-up as long as he doesn’t break anything else in the remainder of the season (touch wood!).


Cheers Chooky!

Last and certainly not least, we bid a sad farewell to DT Talk blog originator and long-serving rookie expert @ChookDT. He’ll be hanging up his comb and returning to the roost to take care of his little chicks. While the grand old cock (and I mean that with the utmost respect) may be relinquishing his perennially popular Chook’s Rooks, there’s no doubt he’ll be omni-present in the twitterverse to share his non-caponised wisdom. The DT Talk community thanks you and salutes you Chooky – good luck and god speed!



Anyways, that’s the rub for this week. Trading? Heard any juicy news bits, gossip or rumours? Got a rant or a rave? Stick it in the comments and let’s get some healthy chatter going ahead of team lists tonight. See ya next Thursday for another bout of media trawling and good luck this weekend!


Any questions, suggestions, general chit-chat or requests for next week’s Extra?
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  • Thanks TeeTee. Ruuuccc Eeemergenceee…… Sorry I don’t know what that is, please explain?

  • Thanks Tee Tee

    Sad to see you go Chook, I hope you will be back. I only discovered this website during pre season this year and your articles have helped me in only my second season of DT.

    I spent a lot of time in preseason trying to do research but admittedly when it all got too busy etc I relied on your articles to steer me in the right direction this season as I underwent an early aggressive trading plan.

    I hope that in some from Chooks Rooks and the info about the rookies will return. Your articles were well written, insightful and enjoyable to read.

    Thanks Chook

  • Good Job TeeTee ive got ryder/giles ruck combination so either jenkins or campbell will be my emergency

    • !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • No way!! But who has enough trades for a downgrade?!

        • Good point, however if you had crozier and another non playIng bench player and couch scores 2 100s in his first couple games you could bring him in purely for cover. Then later in the year if you have LTI’s you have some extra cash to help sideways trade (even if it’s only 40,000, could help with a better option for sideways trading)

    • Maybe Neeld found out Couch wasn’t banging his missus after all..!!!

    • Daniel, cheers mate. Finally. Fingers crossed

      • not good news there goes a good pick up for next season.

        • Fantastic news for those who have him! Pretty certain Tom will be pumped to get his AFL chance & not too worried about team YoungGUNS now not picking him up next year

  • Thanks for another great article, and a big thanks to Chook , for all his wonderful work. :-)

    I am very excited to hear that Tom Couch will debut this week.
    yep, I still have him.

  • DEF: Lake, Mackie, Davis, Scotland, Morris, Ellis, Carrots (Schoenmakers, Wilkes)

    MID: Watson, Thompson, Lids, Ablett, Boyd, S. Selwood (Gibson, Crozier)

    RUC: Cox, Giles (Redden, Campbell)

    FWD: Sidey, Dangerfield, Beams, Cloke, McGlynn, Zorko, Pfeiffer (Buddy, Kennedy)

    Option 1: Downgrade Redden to another rookie ruckman freeing up some cash to upgrade my defence.

    Option 2: Downgrade Redden to another rookie ruckkman freeing up some cash to upgrade S. Selwood > Pendles.

    4 trades left with 80k left in the bank.
    (this is Supercoach by the way)


    • And this is Dreamteam btw

    • if u want us tbh that is one of the worst teams i have ever seen and this is called dt talk…. not sc talk i play both but i only talk about one hear!

  • DEF: Lake, Mackie, Davis, Scotland, Morris, Ellis, Carrots (Schoenmakers, Wilkes)

    MID: Watson, Thompson, Lids, Ablett, Boyd, S. Selwood (Gibson, Crozier)

    RUC: Cox, Giles (Redden, Campbell)

    FWD: Sidey, Dangerfield, Beams, Cloke, McGlynn, Zorko, Pfeiffer (Buddy, Kennedy)

    Option 1: Downgrade Redden to another rookie ruckman freeing up some cash to upgrade my defence.

    Option 2: Downgrade Redden to another rookie ruckkman freeing up some cash to upgrade S. Selwood > Pendles.

    4 trades left with 80k left in the bank.
    (this is Supercoach by the way)


    • This is dream team, wrong site…awkward. Try a super coach forum/web site and good luck :)

  • Glad the Dee’s don’t play Sunday. The way Melbourne are they get everyone hyped on couch and leave him off the extended bench. Thinking Magner will have a rest this week

    Super pissed about Ryder, 3 injuries this week from starters :(

  • http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/perseverance-pays-off-for-melbourne-rookie-tom-couch/story-e6freck3-1226424394811 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!
    I traded the bastard in two weeks ago and then heard he got taken off the senior list and now hes going to debut!! Never been on such a rollercoaster ride regarding a rookie

  • Slappers

    hope ryder will play and its only soreness…

    farking give him the needle and let him play… i dont want 2 or 3 donuts this week

  • Any chance Martin will play given he is on the plane to cairns?

    • na they’re taking him so that he doesn’t stay back in Melbourne to party hard

    • he is going up there to have a look at an appartment for schoolies week.

  • If Couch is debuting Magner is a goner. Most should’ve traded him by now though.

  • Def: Deledio, Scotland, Waters, Goddard, Carrazzo, Suckling, Hargrave (Darley, Shaw)
    Mid: Swan, Ablett, Watson, Pendlebury, Mitchell, Ebert, (Gibson, Williams)
    Ruc: Ryder, Giles (Redden, Campbell)
    Fwd: Beams, Franklin, Sidebottom, Chapman, Robbinson, Dangerfield, Martin (Zorko, Porps)
    5 trades and $91,000 left

    Option 1
    Downgrade porps to murdoch or wait for couch then
    hargrave to Birchall
    then giles to cox/maric

    Option 2
    Waters to Birchall
    downgrade porps to murdoch or couch
    upgrade hargrave or giles

    going for league win and only one team I play doesn’t have Waters

    • Definetly option 2 hargrave with hopefully get some game time meaning its up to u whether or not to play him or shaw, Birchall will really strengthen your already strong backline and like me im thinkin of upgrading Giles to either Jacobs? or Roughead?

  • Slappers

    3 trades… 21k in bank…

    team is:
    god, birch, hep, lids, adcock, lake, waters (darley, spurr)
    stanton, gazza, boyd, hayes, priddis, rocky (old mac, williams)
    ryder, goldy (big o, redden)
    buddy, robbo, sidey, zorko, martin, stevie j, ROK (dickson, sexton)

    i really want to go:
    waters – suckling
    dickson – goodes

    but 1 trade is not going to help me with the finals, i really want to win… i am currently 1st and 2nd in the 2 leagues i care about.


    • If you are currently first and second and think you will make top four for both those leagues then just hold your trades, there is no point in winning a game now if it means loosing one which matters later on

    • just do one and go waters to carrazo/suckling or u will have donuts!

  • Rumors swan injured at training. Anything concrete?

  • hey guys would appreciate a rating for my team, which i feel is complete, and also which rookie i should bring in for m8?

    def: deledio goddard birchall broughton heppell carrazzo waters (clarke, shaw)

    mid: swan ablett boyd thompson pendlebury priddis (gibson, couch/mcintyre)

    ruc: maric griffen (redden stephenson)

    fwd: sidebottom dangerfield zorko martin franklin robinson goodes (cloke, d.smith)

    2 trades remaining

    • With 2 trades left you shouldn’t be trading anyone in… Good team, looks solid. Keep your trades for LTIs and finals though.

  • Buddy, Martin, Waters, Goddard. Whats the chance I will have enough Bench cover. Darley… You need to play son. Earn your pay check.

  • Source SEN

    – Collingwood star Dane Swan could be in doubt this weekend against Geelong. He suffered a minor hip injury against Carlton last Friday night, and was seen leaving training early in some discomfort and holding the area he injured.

    It is believed that he will still be named in the Collingwood team tonight, and also given until the 11th hour to prove his fitness.

    • What a season! This year has been ridiculous. Come on Swanny

    • this has been the year from hell when it comes to DT.

    • I have 7 trades left. I probably should trade waters out shouldnt I.

      • Yeah i have 6 left. I don’t like trading Waters out, still have him. Not sure what to do with him

        • As long as you have cover I am holding Waters. Give him 2 weeks to hear the injury updates and then straight swap if needed to whoever, at least we have the luxury of him being $450k.

          But that is my situation, yours might be diff.

  • Slappers

    darley and spurr please play…

  • @dangerousweapon, I see no evidence of this. Please post a link.

  • If swan is injured, maybe trade him back for Pendles again lol.

  • With 7 trades left I probably should use up a trade on waters shouldnt I. 3 to 6 weeks is a long time.

    • With 7 to burn you are in a nice position. I’m keeping him (as I have 4). My feeling is WC need Waters back as soon as he’s ready. I can’t see it being 6 weeks for a straightforward menisectomy. I just hope that’s the case…

  • Swan will play guys, don’t worry

  • I might snaffle baguley if he plays. He might lose me a donut, and give a nice mid def link.

  • Waters,Franklin and now the Chook.what a horrible week for DT.


  • Waters out 3 – 5 weeks
    Simpson out 3 – 4 weeks
    Ryder out 3 – 4 weeks

    add this to:

    Fyfe LTI
    Shaw 4 weeks
    Birchall 2 weeks
    Ablett 2 weeks
    Hargrave who knows?
    Mumford LTI
    Pendlebury 5 weeks
    Priddis 2 weeks
    Duffield 3 weeks
    Buddy 3 weeks
    Goddard 2 weeks
    Martin 2 weeks

    It has been one tough year

  • Geez I’m stuck on the Suckling vs Birchall decision. Obviously wanted to bring in Scotland but will wait a week or two for him to swap with Ellis.

    Suckling has a higher ceiling, Birch is more consistent. Suckling is cheaper but still cant figure it out.

    • Yeah you’ll probably get the same points overall for both of them but if you think you might have some close finals games Suckling might give you the big 100s that win you those finals, or it might go the other way and he gets a 70.

      Depends if you wanna go the safe option or if you want to take a chance on Suckling for the sake of his high ceiling

  • Wtf don’t tell me Ryder is out…..he’s not in my DT but it still sucks bad

  • The Butcher

    Hi Guys, im sitting 731 with 90k and 5 trades left. Im thinking of trading Franklin for Goodes and Giles to Jacobs to make up some ground on the leaders. That will leave me 170k and 3 trades. Next week Zorko to Pendle after his price drop, then Martin back to Franklin when he returns. I have strong bench cover across the ground. Would love to hear some oppinions. Thanks

    • Franklin to Goodes and Giles to Jacobs are ok trades I think.

      Franklin might only be out for a couple weeks, but then again if you want to be aggressive and avoid a repeat of Pendlebury’s extended time out I think it’s a good idea.

      Giles to Jacobs is ok because of Jacobs draw and reliability, but keep in mind before the weekend Jacobs and Giles have very similar averages. Also last time GWS played Adelaide, Giles got a 100 and Jacobs got 60 odd. If you could afford a higher averaging ruckman than Jacobs I would do that instead.

      Zorko to Pendles however is a bit silly in my opinion. Taking out Zorko’s sub affected score he averages around 105, if your only going to be left with 3 trades, that is a big waste of a trade. Zorko is in awesome form and Pendles is off a 6 week rest, so you might not even gain any points out of that trade.

      I’m not so sure about Martin back to Franklin neither, Franklin should get you an extra 10-15 points a week, but with only 3 trades left is it worth it? Remember Martin scored a ton in hi last game as well.

      Long story short I say yes to the first two trades and a big no to the other 2.

      Leave 3 trades for LTI’s

      • The Butcher

        What about Franklin to Goodes and then wait and see. Im just trying to get some point back on the leaders. Or do Giles to Maric with 60k in the bank and 3 trades? I have Ol Mac as bench cover, just saw he is out, maybe do Ol Mac to Goodes instead? Then push Goodes forward.

        • If you can do Franklin to Goodes and Giles to Maric I think they are great trades.

          It’s great to get points on your competition but at the same time You have to weigh up that vs how many points you would lose at the end of the year against the competition when they have the trades to cover LTI’s and you don’t

          So it’s all about getting the balance between trading aggresively and having enough trades to cover injuries.

          Mind you I’m ranked outside the top 10,000 so take my advice with a grain of salt :) I’m hoping after sideways trading Franklin and Waters (to ge ahead of those who have to hold on to them) and still having 6 trades left that will help me climb up to the top 5,000 by the end of the year

      • The Butcher

        Oh and thanks for the good advice.

  • DEF: Delidio, Goddard, Waters, Birchell, Conca, Heppell, Carrazzo (sam shaw, Spurr)

    MID: Swan, Ablett, Stanton, Boyd, Thompson, Beams, (Gibson, Sexton)

    RUCK: Cox, Giles, (Redden, Campbell)

    FWD: Franklin, Sidebottom, Robinson, Dangerfield, Martin, Cloke, Zorko, (Pfierrier, Black)

    5 trades left, $41,300 in the bank.

    My options are trade waters to suckling/scotland or anyothers.
    or i could hold him and play with a donut this week and than the nxt few weeks have sam shaw to cover waters ( which im not so sure about :/ ) with the about trades i got left i could be able to trade waters i guess…?
    was planning to upgrade Giles to Maric and maybe downgrade or upgrade Pfierrier sometime but i dont think that will be happening.. :/

    Thoughts on my team?? cheers

  • Tom Couch finally named….

    Albeit as 4th on th Interchange so possible green vest.

  • All that really matters is SCOTT GUMBLETON’S BACK!