Dream Team Extra: Round 8

 

I’m beginning to appreciate Forrest Gump’s hidden talent as a Dream Team coach. Each weekend is like his proverbial box of chocolates: y’never know what yer gonna get! Well, last weekend saw a brilliantly high-scoring round – congrats to all coaches who cracked the 2400 mark! With most of the fantasy guns either starting to fire or coming back from injury, I hope the big scoring continues this weekend. There’s been a good bit of twatter this week, which I’ve trimmed to a few hot topics, so here we go!

 

Multi-Bye Rounds

There are quite a few out there who are starting to plan for the fearsome multi-bye rounds. There have been a few very thorough ‘how to’ articles posted on this site, but I reckon it’s a bit like booking a prostate exam – there’s going to be a bit of suffering, but it’ll all be alright on the other side.

The queries that have been thrown about have me curious about your strategy, particularly around these questions. Do you keep building your team up now to bank points and eat donuts come the byes? Do you compromise on your upgrades and trade in players to minimise donuts across the MBRs? I’m just putting this out there, so you can send it right back, but I’m keen to hear what you’re planning.

On a side note, I’ll be pulling a couple of bargain-hunting upgrades across my back and forward lines, trying to minimise my bye players to 3 per line per week and then upgrading selectively in R12-R14 to guns who have had a rest. And I’ll be sure to wear clean undies when it comes time to have my prostate probed…

 

Much Ado About Gary

If you’re looking at getting Gazza into your squad, this is not the week to do it. His BE is a massive 176, and while he is capable of hitting that mark, logic says that next week or even the week after is the time to bring him in. If he plays to his current average of 129, he’ll have bottomed out in R8-9 at about $550-560k, which is around his starting price.

@DavidKontro shot through a good question (above). With a fully loaded gun MID, is GAJ essential? This is going to sound like heresy and I can hear the lynch mob baying for my blood already, but at this stage of the season, I’d say no. If you have a 5-6 premium midfield, you’re better off upgrading on your other lines to get your team done. Come back to Ablett after his bye and then get him in if you have a luxury trade to spare. I hope that pacifies the mob.

 

Mc-Kneed

HMac is a great player and I didn’t like seeing the Kangas ruck tumble after tweaking his knee. Thankfully, that’s all it is, with scans clearing him of any structural damage and @NorthKangaroos tweeting the latest update (below).

He’ll be out for 1-2 weeks and those of you who have him will be aching for his return like a kid waiting for Christmas. Yes, you may have to cop a donut in your rucks for the next fortnight, but don’t waste a trade to flick the big fella. He’ll be back for you soon enough and, in the meantime, you could be picking up a juicy gun or two at a bargain price.

 

Turf Toe

I was skeptical. It’s the stuff of fables, like unicorns and fairies, but after Chris Yarran’s recent episode with the mystical ‘turf toe’, I must now admit that it’s for real-real. My apologies to Sandi and Yarran for ever doubting that this condition was fictional.

 

Injury Woes

Apart from HMac, it’s not too bad this week, with quite a few potentially coming back. Popular DT picks who are listed as ‘test’ include Jed Adcock, Pearce Hanley, Luke Parker, Matt Priddis and NicNat. Al ‘Bundy’ Christensen is strangely marked as ‘TBA’ on the AFL Injury List, but this snip indicates that he may be just 1-2 weeks off. Sam Fisher is also a week from resuming regular duties.

 

Pick Me! Pick Me!

Hmm… This little bitty is getting tougher to nail as my research is a thin as my four-year-old socks and the cull has started on a few starting rooks, so pardon me if I miss anyone. With Ellis getting the flick for many, Buggy is still the leading defensive rook while Morris has redeemed himself somewhat on the back of last weekend’s decent performance. Spurr should be okay. The midfield is getting stronger by the week, with Horse, Coniglio and Greene leading the way. Jimmy Mac should be in this week too, so plenty of good options there. Giles is the lone fantasy rookie ruck still standing, but keep an eye out for Longer in the lists tonight. Adam Treloar, Dev Smith and Taylor Adams should be solid up front. Those of you who hung on to Tory Dickson will be happy to note that he’s up against the Suns this week, so is worth a shot if selected.

 

Anyways, that’s the rub for this week. Pretty confident there will be good scoring this weekend as most coaches will be pulling and upgrade or two this week. Feel free to add any news bits, rants, raves, etc below to keep the motor whirring. See ya next Thursday for another bout of media trawling and good luck this weekend!

 

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64 Comments

  • Good Read Again!

    I’m going to do this;

    Ellis < Suckling
    Hall < Lycett

    Moving Lycett into the rucks (sitting on the pine) to free up Hale to come into forward line as he is third ruck and scoring big points on the pine!

    Anyone know about Lycetts JS?

  • Good stuff mate.

    Elis- delaney or Spurr thoughts? Delaney has a lower BE and a few k cheaper and fits in with my bye structure.

    Also who will the might Rains tag against GWS? Will cogs Greene or ol Mac get stuck with him? Could reduce their score massively

    • You would have to assume Callan Ward but he may shut down someone like that if they’re carving it up.

    • Raines will (see: should) go to Ward before anyone you mentioned. I doubt it will affect Greene, McDonald or Coniglio. Although of them, Cogs is next in line (as McDonald will play on either Redden or Black), and Greene will likely run with Rocky.

    • Cheers boys

  • I’ve gone in a different direction this week.

    I’ve chucked HMac on the pine, traded out Gorringe who hasn’t played, and traded in Big Cox. I also traded out-of-sorts Freo mid Barlow out for Dayne Zorko for the FWD/MID link.

    • You are not worried about having 2 Rd 11 rucks (3 if you have Giles)?

      Interesting.

  • I am thinking of trading HMac to Cordy and putting Giles as my second ruckman then sell bugg and get boyd in my midfield with putting goddard into defender spot??????????????????/ What do you thinking about it guys and girls????/

    • Why would you trade HMac!? its only going to be 1 week and he’s arguably the best ruckman in the comp, in a year where ruck stocks are in short supply I think this is a really BAD MOVE.

      By the way this should be in the ‘Good Trade, Bad Trade’ article (under bad trade)

    • Do you really need to trade Hmac as he will be back?

  • Cheers tee tee. I see you are advising to hold onto HMac but what if he is out for >1 week?

    My rucks are HMac, Giles, Big O and Redden. There must be others in this situation. I am really loathe to take a donut in the rucks for 1 (or more) weeks but I only have 16 trades left and need to conserve (and have already wasted two ruck trades due to injury – Mummy>Sandi>HMac).

    Fingers crossed Redden gets a game but that is unlikely. Is everyone else holding?

    • Big O or Redden might get a game. I would be more inclined to trade Redden out than Hmac.

    • SERENITY NOW!!!




      INSANITY LATER.

    • i have same ruck structure…

      i thought about straight swapping hmac for maric… which will help my bye structure for rucks…

      but im going to hold the macman and cop the donut…

  • Does amyone know much about Lycett from West coast? His ruck/fwd status is juicy. If I am going to have a rookie sitting on the pine may as well be swappable with maybe a hale or roughhead.

    • I have had Roughhead since the start and i have 5 wins straight so i think he had held his place. Ok average aint the best 87 with a BE of 76 so iam sticking with him

    • He’s a B-grader.

      Expect him to be sent straight back to the WAFL when naitanui returns, which will probably be this week.

  • Dont see the point in wasting a trade to bring in the likes of lycett or jenkins to cover a donut for 1 or 2 wks. Realistically everyone with Hmac and Giles is staring down the barrell of a double-donut in rd 11 anyways.

    The only worthwhile rookie ruck trade to cover Hmac would b redden to longer, but given the fact that Longer also has the rd 11 you still cop 2 donuts so I am personally going to suck it up and take them :(

    Plus trading any ruck throws out my trade strategy completely which over the next two weeks is going to be RD8 – Bugg to Spurr and Magner to Beams, RD9 Kennedy to Zorko (increased JS with banfield going down) and Greene to Murphy (will be approx 480k nxt week).

    This will leave the side looking like this with 14 trades remaining

    Goddard, Scotland, Deledio, Heppell, Lake, Hargrave, Clarke (Spurr, Smedts)

    Swan, Boyd, Ablett, Thompson, Murphy, Horsley (JMac, Treloar)

    Hmac, Giles (Redden, Big O)

    Franklin, Chapman, Sidebottom, Robinson, Beams, Dangerfield, Martin (Dickson, Zorko)

    Currently ranked 277 so am looking to keep the scroing going to break into double figure rank

  • Good article TeeTee. I’m afraid I going to cop my first donut with Hmac this weekend. Mind you 6 from Ellis is almost as good – it’s just a plain donut with no chocolate icing.

    • Ellis would have robbed plenty of coaches with that minimal score! On the flipside, he is ripe for an upgrade this week before he loses a few dollars.

  • Pussay Patrol

    Round Score: 2,169

    DEF: B Deledio (104), H Scotland (98), M Suckling (127), B Waters (81), R Hargrave (92), T Bugg (58), B Lake (109), J Adcock (0), S Darley (0)

    Who should I trade out for Spurr? I’m thinking either Adcock or Bugg

    • I’d hang on to Adcock, he’ll be back this week and I’m not sure a keeper-for-rookie trade is positive. Keep building/upgrading your rooks where you can.

  • Please a simple yes or no would be nice …. Would anyone trade Keneddy [Sydney] for Ablett i can do a direct swap BUT is it stupid

  • By the Gods I want to get Stanton in before his (projected) $30,000 price rise puts him over the $600k mark and potentially out of reach. I already have Swan and Pendles and doing this is gonna hurt come Rd 12 but looking at his scores NOT in my team hurts alot more.

    Is it worth taking the plunge and forgeting about one game (Rd 12) to say secure 120-130 odd every other week?

    • Get him in mate! i’m doing it this week.

      My theory is you cant let the bye rounds determine your whole team, if you read this site chances are you’ve secured some early wins in your leagues and unless your going for the FJ i’d say get him in and take the donut.

  • Sorry ill start again I have Stanton Boyd Mitchell [ Keneddy Swans] Horsley Hayes would it be silly to swap Keneddy for Ablett… Be blunt and no iam not smoking anything

  • Hey

    im unsure what to do with my trades this week. I know I want to trade out Ellis but should I get in Deledio, Heppell or one of the Hawthorn boys, it should be a no brainer with deledio but i already have goddard broughton scotland and bower who all have a bye in the same weekend as richmond so getting deledio would make that week worse for me!
    Also is it work cashing the little money i have got from adam kennedy and kind of downgrading to tory dickson, looked real good last week but can he be consistent?
    please help :)

    • I’d get deledio if you’re not that worried about the byes, he’s the best defender. Otherwise I’d probably go birchall or suckling this week just because heppel’s 137 will be out of his 3 round rotation next round but his 69 won’t and his price will probably drop. Maybe a heath shaw?

      If you think adam kennedy can still make you money I would hold onto him and downgrade him for maybe a zorko/patton in a few weeks time. If you don’t, get rid of him.

    • If your worried about the byes then clearly its a no brainer…

  • Top stuff TeeTee!..(Turf Toe?)

    Hoping Big O gets a run this week…
    Thinking Hale to fwd line trading A Kennedy to Stephenson.
    Could then look to trade Hale to a top Rd11/12 fwd for the Hawks bye?

    • Current ruck line up: Kreuzer, Hale, Giles & Redden
      Big O rd12 bye fits well…

  • Nice work Tee Tee.

    Regarding your question on feedback for bye rounds. I’ve changed my trading strategy a little to deal with these. For example, I love Goddard’s juicy price, so this week I would trade Morris for him. However, given bye structure, unfortunately it means that Bugg has to go.

    Similarly, I’m thinking of trading Giles out before rd 11 because I have Cox too. Generally I wouldn’t do this, but given bye’s…

    • Why does Morris to Goddard mean Bugg has to go?

      • I’m doing Bugg to Goddard instead of Morris to Goddard. If we didn’t have the byes then I would simply go Morris to Goddard and keep Bugg.

  • Wanted to get other peoples opinions…. The multi bye rounds really can limit your quality of upgrades, having to settle for an average premium. For example I would love beams and shaw in my team but would cop donuts getting them in now.

    A lot of the forward and defence premiums are averaging under 90, and i have decent scoring rookies on field, so I think I might limit my trades till later when I can get the likes of Heath shaw, Dayne beams etc. is it worth sacrificing some points to have extra trades and much better premiums in the second half of the year?

    • If you’re going for the car/rankings, I’d want my premo players to average at least 10 more points per round than a possible player brought in to cover MBRs (pretty hard to do). If you’re going for the league win I’d maybe keep my trades and cop the donuts as long as it looks like you’re going to make the finals.

  • Getting Zorko in this week because i need the money to upgrade ellis RISKY but im willing to take it another + is that Zorko is playing GWS :)

  • Will be upgrading this week but would love some advice…

    Using some DPP hullaballoo I’ll be trading out Ellis and Bugg and trading in Spurr and a FWD valued under $445,400.

    My other FWDs are Robbo, Buddy, Danger, Martin, Cloke, Smith, Treloar and Hall.

    Any ideas? I was contemplating Zaka but wouldn’t mind some outside opinions.

    • Zaha is the pick I reckon but Jordan Lewis is a bit of an option – DPP, and if you want consistency his lowest score is 81 and he almost always lands high 80s. I think I’d go Zaha though.

    • Could take the risky option and choose Didak..

      • Ah I’d forgotten about Dids. Cheers fellas, i think my decision will have to wait until just before lockout but I think Zaka is the go.

  • Thoughts on trading in Shaw vs Suckling (bye considerations not a factor) anyone?

    • Suckling is pretty consistent, and will give 85+ every week, with the possibility of a 130+
      shaw is inconsistent, but when he’s in form can average 110
      i believe shaw is cheaper, so i’d go with him

  • I’m considering either Suckling or Shaw with byes not a factor. Any thoughts?

  • Liking the look of the James Hird Academy!

    http://www.essendonfc.com.au/jha/default.asp?group=profiles

    Some great names in the squad !

    Really excited about the DT Prospects of Joe Daniher !

  • Quick question:
    Def: deledio, Goddard, waters, hargrave, lake, bugg, Ellis (Morris, smedts)
    Mid: Gaj, swan, peddles, jelwood, rockliff, horsely (shiel, pfieffer)
    Fwd: sidey, Franklin, beams, Martin, Rioli, d smith, porpus (treloar, Cameron)
    Cash left: $142,00
    Really want to upgrade Ellis to a bottomed out Birchall to complete back line. Is there anywhere to free cash as Birchall is still $44 grand away? Or should I just downgrade Ellis to spurr am a bit worried about a spur smedts interchange as it is a bit risky coz of js. Other options could be Ellis-spurr Morris- Birchall but Morris has growth. Want to upgrade rioli to Robinson but will probs wait a week coz of high be on robo, and zorkos 3rd game.

  • Im getting rid of Ellis (as most seem to be are). Thoughts on either Spurr or Delaney?