Calvin’s Captains – Rd. 13

Posted by Calvin on 16/6/10 • Categorised as Calvin's Captains

Last week I pumped out some good numbers in my top 10. Ablett 103 had 40% of the coaches semi happy but Montagna let down 15% of his followers for his 65. Chappy broke his perfect 100 record this year with a 99 of all scores. Baretl had 137, Goddard 120, Swan 150 and Pendlebury 136, were all amazing! Selwood 90, Stanton 73 and Thompson 27 (but injured) all we not that great – lets get int0 this Loop Hole thing!

What is The Loop Hole?

Well I’m glad you asked! With this week being a split round it means we have another partial lock out. This means that lock out will occur ‘partially’. AFL Dream Team will be in lock out over the weekend, but open again for the following week, with all the players who have already played still locked in. You can not move, replace, trade or anything with these guys, BUT you can move, and trade and change the players who have not yet played from St Kilda, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood, Adelaide and Melbourne. When I say ‘change’ I also mean… make captain!

How Can I Make This Work?

Step 1 – Read Calvin’s Captains

Good. You’re off to a good start. Make sure you read this carefully and understand this fully. Make sure you tune in the “Thursday Night Live” with DT TALK this week, as I’ll answer all your questions for those who are a little dumb and don’t get it.

Step 2 – Stab Away

Click a “VC” on the player you want this week to have a crack at a good score for you. It must be a player from the coming weekend games. Players from either Hawthorn, Essendon, Carlton, Fremantle, Brisbane, Richmond, Kangaroos, Port, West Coast or the Bulldogs.

Step 3 – My “C” Though?

Do not appoint anyone with the “C” if they are playing in those teams above (unless you want them)!! Place your “C” on a reliable back-up who will play next week…. just to be extra safe, and then for some reason if this doesn’t work you’ll be happy! Then wait and see what your VC gets!

Step 4 – Are You Greedy?

After the split round, re-assess if you are happy with the score that the VC person got you. If you are not, simply put “C” on the person who you would like to beat that score for the following weekend. By doing this the “C” over rides the “VC” and this will replace that person. If you are happy… then keep the “VC” score like I did with Carrazzo in round 1 and put the “C” on someone who is not playing on your bench (preferably someone injured so there are no nasty late inclusions). Therefore you will get the doughnut off your captain (bench dud) which will be replaced with the score you wanted, the “VC” one!

Step 5 – Enjoy the Ride!

Laugh and enjoy the fact that you made the right call, or kick your own arse for being too greedy!

Will It Work?

Yeah it will. It did when we had our last partial lock out and this is what I did. I locked in Carrazzo for round 1 with a “VC”. He then smashed out a good 131. I was happy with this and therefore didn’t need to use anyone else for my “C” and played the round without a “C” and therefore Carrazzo had 262. If I wanted to risk it … whoever I then gave the “C” too – just needed to score anything above 131. I made the right call. But where will you draw the line of greediness?

Here I’ll cover the most likely picks you are tossing up over this week with the role of the VC. Sam Mitchell had 129 and 97 in the 2 games he played against the Bombers in 2009. He had a 59 in his last at the MCG though, but his history here looks great! Hodgey will be a huge option for many people this week with scores of 131 and 140 in his last 2 games this year. He hasn’t cracked 100+ in his last 6 against the Bombers and had 84 in his last against them in Rd. 6 this year (lowest for 2010) He did have 131 in his last game at the MCG and will be a massively picked VC this week. The Bombers have given up the most 100+ scores in the last 2 weeks this year as well, topping the list with 11. Stanton had 30d (127pts) in his last game V the Hawks and got the pig tag last week. His last previous scores here are huge with 127, 139, 147, 123, 110, 105 coming in his last 6! He has played at the MCG 5 times this year for a low score of 92. If you are one of the 14,866 coaches who have him, give him the VC now! Jobe Watson avoided the pink pig last week and averages 95 in his last 3 against the Hawkers. He had 122 in his last against them, but that is his only 100+ score against them in his career of 8 games, but it was his highest score of 2010 despite a tag from Sewell. Bryce Gibbs plays Freo who are his favourite team of 2009 with 140 and 142 coming in those 2 games. Judd averaged 120 on them as well in 2009 too. Marc Murphy isn’t as good as the other Blue boys, but he did have a 92 and 130 in his 2 games against them last year as well. Nothing to turn your back on though! Matthew Pavlich averages 104 in the last 3 against the Blues but does only average 85 in his efforts at Etihad this year and with the efforts of the Blue’s backmen last week he might go ok. Ben Warren kicked 2g from his 17d, 8m and Lindsey Thomas had 7.5g (165pts)! Dean Cox had 119 in his last game against the Dawgs in 2009 and the Dawgs have given up 9×100+ scores in the last 2 weeks this year. Matthew Boyd averages 111 in his last 4 against the Eagles with 94 and 114 in his last 2 in 2009. He doesn’t mind SUBI either with his last 2 scores being 102 and 114.

Next Week…

We have some big guns! Goddard, Hayes, Montagna, Bartel, Ablett, Chapman and Swan all play (which sucks, cause it would have been good to have a double crack with these lads). Stay tunned, as this time next week I will cover the rest of the games, helping you to decide whether to take the “VC” score from this week or take the gamble with a “C” on one of these guys!

Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.

So what will you do? Hodgey or Sam for me at this stage, but it depends really who you have. Take the Loop Hole on! Have a crack, it worked before and will again, surely unless they have changed something… but they really can’t. If they have changed anything, please note you are doing this at your own risk. But I will also say that all members of DT TALK are on the Loop Hole train!! Toot toot!

1,468 Comments

dt lad
June 16, 2010 • 9:06 pm

still a little confused…

so i can put the VC on Hodge.
C on luke Ball, trade him to ablett next week (so he gets the C).
and if i like hodges score what do i do?
do i have to sub on seamus mcnamara so i can potentially give him the C?
and put cox on the bech with EMG
- bilbo
  June 16, 2010 • 9:18 pm
  
  yep thats right seamus on with the C and cox emg
  
  I’ll be giving the VC to Gibbs with his previous scores against the dockers, and brett ratten says he will play midfield, althogh he scored 166 playing as a loose def a few rds back, i reckon anything under 115 and ill give the C to swanny.
  - Bruce Dual
    June 17, 2010 • 2:29 pm
    
    I’ll be doing something similar. The key is you gotta have someone who is in a team competing in the second week but is definitely not playing (ie Big Seamus). The only problem with Seamus is, you gotta have him on the ground to give you the option of naming him captain if your VC pumps out a 140. You can’t put your C on a bench player.
    
    This means you gotta have one of your starting (scoring) ruckman as the emergency so his score gets counted. The risk with this is it uses up one of your emergency options (which in my case normally go to DEF, MID and FWD). With the split round, you have no idea until next week where you’re definitely going to need your emergencies (eg, a question mark may appear over Goddard next Thursday and with one Emerg used up on your ruck, you may have already put the other two on MID and FWD. You’re then left exposed without the DEF emergency). If your bench players are all playing in the second week, then you’re ok because you can still shift the Emerg around. Nice luxury to have. However, if you’re emergencies have played in the first week, they’re locked in.
    
    Ultimately, it comes down to the degree of flexibility you’ve got in your line up.
bilbo
June 16, 2010 • 9:08 pm

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/players/guru.php?score=DT&pos=CTR

Found this a massive help all year when it comes to captaincy selection
Benny332
June 16, 2010 • 9:09 pm

VC on Barlow. Tempting…
- Shaun Dawgs
  June 16, 2010 • 10:42 pm
  
  i am
  - Kaiobe
    June 16, 2010 • 11:49 pm
    
    +2
    - Jake
      June 17, 2010 • 4:02 pm
      
      +3
      as a rookie there has never been a better time to give him an opportunity as capt, and we all know he can score capt scores
The_JD
June 16, 2010 • 9:26 pm

Im thinking say if you put the big C on a dud then have an emergency on the bench (that plays) does that emergencys points get doubled. REPLY please
- bilbo
  June 16, 2010 • 9:31 pm
  
  No otherwise what would the VC be for? It just goes staight to vice
PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
June 16, 2010 • 9:34 pm

Do the Hawks have a main tagger?, im just worried about Stanton koz he sucks when he gets tagged :(, but looking at his previous scores im thinking not
- Whobegotyou2010
  June 16, 2010 • 9:49 pm
  
  Sewell
GWillows
June 16, 2010 • 9:57 pm

So i cant trade out Maguire for T.Hunt next week to wait for geelongs team because Brisbane will have already played?
- Blue boys
  June 16, 2010 • 10:52 pm
  
  Exactly………bad week for trading!!!
Dylan
June 16, 2010 • 10:07 pm

This will sound dumb no doubt but you cant put the C on a bench player
- Dylan
  June 16, 2010 • 10:10 pm
  
  How to I get rid of the “C”
  - PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
    June 16, 2010 • 10:29 pm
    
    you have to put the non playing bench player on the field as captain with your gun player as emergency. you cant get rid of the captain hence this whole thing describing what to do :). if your not sure what to do dont do it.
Ike
June 16, 2010 • 10:21 pm

Oh crap, I’ve just looked at my team, these are my bench players, Maguire, Webberley, Gysberts, Banner, Warnock, Lobbe, Brown & Watts.

I’m pretty much stuffed to take advantage of this loophole. One of Gysberts or Watts may be dropped, but they are my only hope as all others (teams) are playing this week.

Will still go Hodge (VC) and Bartel (C) – getting him in this week for Martin. But probably wont be able to use VC’s score unless Jiz/Watts are dropped.

Am I right in thinking this????
- tkol
  June 16, 2010 • 10:45 pm
  
  i hope so because thats what im thinking/hoping with jizzbert
Brendan
June 16, 2010 • 10:31 pm

To make this work you need your non-scoring player to be playing in the 2nd week.
- Brendan
  June 16, 2010 • 10:33 pm
  
  Sorry I mean in a team that is playing in the 2nd week – Saints, Cats, Demons, Crows, Maggies or Swans.
  - Brendan
    June 16, 2010 • 10:34 pm
    
    If that makes sense …
    - Hogans Hero
      June 17, 2010 • 1:30 am
      
      i hate it cause i cant put ablett as back up C cause al my mid emerg play first week
Kevinf21
June 16, 2010 • 10:33 pm

Will the loophole be available for supercoach too? Lol
Blue boys
June 16, 2010 • 10:38 pm

I will be putting VC on Stanton and hoping P.Davis doesn’t play so i can give him the C.
I also have McNamara in the rucks who i could use, but with Sandi, Clark and Skipper as other rucks i am worried about starting McNamara and having Clark as my emergency.
Because if Clark pulls out late with his achilles soreness couple cop a donut in the ruck when i could have used Skipper to cover.

This round of loophole is much tougher than the opening round, i am sure we are going to hear of some people copping donuts from late withdrawals and having cover on bench they weren’t able to use!!!
Blue boys
June 16, 2010 • 10:56 pm

Hodge v’s Essendon doesn’t have very good record (2nd worst team)………but i guess with his current form and loophole there is always a 2nd chance option in week 2.
Mad__5kills
June 16, 2010 • 11:46 pm

Hmmm VC Stanton or Barlow…
- Hogans Hero
  June 17, 2010 • 1:29 am
  
  barlows last two weeks have killed it so id say stanton because he is dockers best player recently so could cop tag
Hogans Hero
June 17, 2010 • 1:28 am

so do i go vice on stanton.

then put heath on ground and goddard on bench with heath as captain?
- jimbarts
  June 17, 2010 • 12:28 pm
  
  You can’t put a bench player as Skipper
enjay
June 17, 2010 • 8:41 am

the only person on my bench who’s not playing this week is gary rohan. If i take the emergency off him, and put the C on him, will that work, or will it not because he’ll get a score?
- enjay
  June 17, 2010 • 8:47 am
  
  forget that, i wont be able to use the loop hole…gay, good thing im playing someone down the bottom of my league so it wont matter.
orbs
June 17, 2010 • 9:08 am

Suprised no mention of the big sandi??? Surely a guy averaging 100 deserves a mention?

Sorry calvin, im getting greedy arent I? Anyways great read as always!

Extremely hard to go past Hodgey but Gia could definitely be a unique. He seems to rack up some good scores when dogs midfielders are out. When Boyd was out he went mental. Then when he returned he went very quiet only to 100+ again when higgins was out.
- tkol
  June 17, 2010 • 9:09 am
  
  I remember heaps of people getting burnt the week Sandi was supposed to break the DT record against Sydney and only scored 67. Its hard to give him another crack!
tkol
June 17, 2010 • 9:08 am

I am in the idiot bracket (you already know that)

So if i have Boyd VC This Week & Ablett Captain…. Next week if Jizzbert gets dropped(My only bench player playing next week) i can put him on the ground for ablett and make Jizzbert Captain and SMJ emergency Which will allow Boyd to remain captain if he has a big score!
- goodgod
  June 17, 2010 • 9:27 am
  
  You could do that yes. But taking the C off Jesus and benching him? Holy moly, what’s theh world coming to…?
  - tkol
    June 17, 2010 • 11:52 am
    
    Who am i kidding. Of Course i will have Ablett captain no matter what.
    
    People have jumped off him lately and he still scores 100′s without any 60′s in between.
    
    After all he is SWEET MERCIFUL JESUS
- Bruce Dual
  June 17, 2010 • 2:32 pm
  
  Spot on
McScoundrel
June 17, 2010 • 10:19 am

With all the doubt (selection and injury) surrounding numerous players in my team, I’m going to use my emergencies to avoid nuts rather than provide a safety net for a captain that sucks. Boyd captain, Goddard vc. Maybe next year I’ll be able to get in on the loophole frivolity.
tkol
June 17, 2010 • 10:22 am

Sorry to change the topic Cal… The next round of ELIMINATOR (1024 remaining) is now Open

Here are my match ups as they stand. Im guessing opponent will trade

BACKLINE

Scotland vs Malceski
Enright vs Kennelly
Fisher vs Nason

MIDS SAME

RUCKS

Cox vs Sandilands
Trengove vs Natinui

Pavlich vs Daisy
Goodes vs Gumbleton
Gia vs Peterson
Rockliff vs Zero for now (Brown,Duncan Davis)

Im guessing he will trade of course. Im not trading unless Trengove and Warnock both dont play then i can make 1 trade Hille to Sandilands.

Thoughts?
- McScoundrel
  June 17, 2010 • 10:33 am
  
  What are you having for lunch?
  - tkol
    June 17, 2010 • 11:06 am
    
    Ham Sanga & a Sausage Roll!
- orbs
  June 17, 2010 • 11:14 am
  
  If your on the left then your home is what i would say.
westy1
June 17, 2010 • 10:40 am

The loophole also works for emergencies if you have a non-playing bench player.
Example – I have Nason and Gram (yes, I know) as bench defenders. I put Nason as emergency as he playes in week 1. Then a) He comes out and plays a blinder and bags another 88 points. I move Gram onto the field for a defender who doesn’t guarantee me more than 88 and Nason’s emergency score kicks in. b) Nason plays crap and gets another 22. I keep the team as is stands and his score doesn’t not count.
- goodgod
  June 17, 2010 • 10:59 am
  
  good thinking…
- Danger
  June 17, 2010 • 12:21 pm
  
  You would need to put Gram onto the field for someone playing in week two though! Correct?
  - westy1
    June 17, 2010 • 12:49 pm
    
    Correct, Josh Hunt in my case. Probably won’t work for most people but if your players fall correctly then every advantage helps.
    - Danger
      June 17, 2010 • 1:11 pm
      
      Yeh i just had a look. Very hard to do. Especcially as you don’t know the teams for the second week. If Hunt got dropped would it affect you? It wouldn’t would it?
      - westy1
        June 17, 2010 • 1:20 pm
        
        No really as it would just mean that Nason’s score automatically counted as the emergency. Wouldn’t have gained or lost anything over not doing it. Just adds a bit of fun (and the way my team’s going this year that’s all I got left!)
wrighty
June 17, 2010 • 12:13 pm

i reckon have a punt on Barlow, if he goes shithouse (unlikely) then pick gazza next week
leegend
June 17, 2010 • 1:00 pm

People’s thoughts on Little Dick as a replacement for Browndawg? I think he looks to dependent on goals and will likely go with Brennan, but just wanted to put it out there…
Joker
June 17, 2010 • 2:44 pm

Glenn Luff of Champion data gave this site a plug on SEN for help with the split round loop-hole.
Bazinga
June 17, 2010 • 3:30 pm

I know this isn’t a trade thread or anything. But im just going to ask anyway.
Who do you take out of Hayes and Montag if you have a touch under 500k to spend and already have Ablett, Swan, Chappy, Godd, etc etc??? And please i would like a reason why you would take one or the other.
- jimbarts
  June 17, 2010 • 3:45 pm
  
  Hayes because he wears a lower number than Montagna which means he is better.
- tkol
  June 17, 2010 • 3:46 pm
  
  Montanga… I had Hayes last year and he was fantastic. However Montanga was always a bit better. With Montanga’s game style he is still running hard late in the season and racks up monster scores. As for Lenny, i found he peaks through the middle of the year and his crash and bash style results him in dropping right off DT wise at the end!
  
  Montanga for me!
  - tkol
    June 17, 2010 • 3:46 pm
    
    I also picked up Montanga from the start this year and my theory was proven correct again!
    - Bazinga
      June 17, 2010 • 5:17 pm
      
      Thanks heaps guys. I’ll be looking to pick up montag when his 65 has dropped off. Or maybe i’ll do it after this split round.
danno
June 17, 2010 • 3:48 pm

Fantastic work Cal….. step 1) read this…….. i like it..

for me the 2 scores of gibbzy are hard to look past, i think i’ll be giving him the VC over a very unfortunate boyd
Birdy
June 17, 2010 • 4:55 pm

im thinking along the lines that judd is more likely not to have two bad games in a row, then hodge having 3 amazing games in a row. so thats why im thinking juddy as vice. does any one understand what im saying or have i said that wrong?? :?
:P
June 17, 2010 • 5:02 pm

thats JUST what i was going say
and hodgeys essendon form. i had him captain last ess vs haw and he score 80 or something :(
but the reason why juddy isnt the number 1 VC choice is because nobody on this site has him 1 because he was out at the start of the year 2 because he is always getting tagged
so im thinking juddy or hodge 2
juddy coming off a bad game could have his best game all year but hodges form is so good
- :P
  June 17, 2010 • 5:03 pm
  
  that was supposedto be a responce to birdy
br
June 17, 2010 • 6:14 pm

Calvin, there is another way of doing this I believe.

It does cost you a trade but saves you an emergency. So not recommended unless you are going to do a trade anyway.

If you make the player that you are trading out your captain you will find that his replacement will not wear the big C, in fact you will have no-one as your captain.

This is the way I did it in round 1 and it worked, so can’t see why it won’t.

This is the best option for those that intend to do a trade before or during this split round. So after the first week only use the C if you are not happy with your VC’s score.
- Wilson
  June 17, 2010 • 9:11 pm
  
  I like this theory dude, i’m thinking of trading tomorrow so i might try it. What’s the worst that could happen? My only other question is that if say if you have Martin (who is playing this weekend) locked in as an emergency, and he doesn’t need to cover for anyone that might’ve missed, can you then still take the “E” off him and give it to someone else for next week after it re-opens for the week? Forgive me if this has already been spoken about.
  - br
    June 17, 2010 • 11:31 pm
    
    no – cant change anyone who plays this week (emergency or otherwise)
    Let me know how you go with the captain trade.
Johnny
June 17, 2010 • 8:12 pm

with all my stars playing next week im putting the VC on either hodgey or boak. atm im leaning towards boak because hodge will be a common pick
baconb
June 17, 2010 • 10:23 pm

so if I start Hille this week.
I can put him captain and barlow vice captain.

Put lobbee as reserve?

im f**ked.
- Nails
  June 18, 2010 • 4:25 am
  
  lol bacon. I thought this was some random annoying person asking, then I realise it was you.
  ><
  
  You are trying to over-think it Bacon, shame shame shame.
  
  What difference is there from putting Hille c and Barlow VC to any other week? None. As Hille plays 1st half of the round so it's the same as having a non playing C any time of the year.
  
  You need to have VC on your favourite VC choice. Then provided you don't have the captain on a player playing the first half (i.e don't have it on Hille) you can change it to someone who is playing in the 2nd half.
  
  i.e have the C on Hille it's stuck on Hille, therefore rendering Barlow as useful as a (c).
  
  If you even want to use the vc trick, your VC has to play 1st half, and the c has to play 2nd half of the round. You are better off putting the c on ablett/swan/monty just incase the partial lock out does f**k up and you aren't happy with your c.
  
  You can just change the c around 2nd half as I said as long as the player you didn't put the c on has already played.
  
  You can then change the c from that player to any other player who has played/their team hasn't played yet.
  
  I didn't explain that very well, but good luck.
eeepo
June 18, 2010 • 5:28 am

Great stuff Calvin.
Pav VC for me! Hope he does a “Bryce Gibbs,” & scores 166 after appearring on the Footy Show!
Off topic- Looks like the overall leader is ALSO coming 2nd in that other fantasy footy comp. (Super-something or other!) lol
geddesthefaclon
June 18, 2010 • 11:25 am

Kane averages 119 against North from his last 3 games and is comming of a 127 last week. last 8 scores v. the Kanas go 131,120,108,100,87,101,153,102!

lock him in for VC if you have got him.
bazza_12
June 18, 2010 • 1:54 pm

i have 6 trades left.
im getting in james kelly or bower for maguire so that leaves me 5.
should i use another trade to downgrade stevonson to gysberts or someone else maybe a random 77 thousand
so i can have a 0 on my field for the loop hole?
is it worth the trade? or not.
- Kevinf21
  June 18, 2010 • 2:38 pm
  
  Omg a trade is much more valuable than a bloody loophole option dude
  - bazza_12
    June 18, 2010 • 3:26 pm
    
    yeah i fort so. but ive had 3 weeks in a row of having under 200 as captain.
Bomber
June 18, 2010 • 7:25 pm

okay guys imagine this (just doing this to give everyone nightmares). you put someone VC this week and you love love love the score 150 maybe. then next week okay put my benchy on with my would be cap on the bench. then Mr. late inclusion puts your benchy to play……. haha
- Chartreuse
  June 18, 2010 • 7:34 pm
  
  thats the risk i’ve got if i stick the VC on Hodge and he canes it
  
  My backs bench Webberley and Magquire both not playing but are both in temas playing this weekend.
  
  The rest of my benchers which play next week, Watts, Jizzberts and P Davis are all potentials as far as I know.
  
  FK it…locking in Hodge as C.
  - Bomber
    June 20, 2010 • 2:30 pm
    
    lucky hodge sucked a big fat one hah mate

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