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Dour defenders, rampaging rookies, round one wrap – Ep. 498

PODCAST: The first round is over and The Traders are licking their wounds.

What an epic round of footy … it’s a shame we can’t say the same about our Toyota AFL Fantasy teams! It was a case of “here we go again” as some of the big dogs we paid up for struggled big time. Thank the Fantasy Gods for the rookies that came in scoring tons for fun! We’ve got our first two trades to use and it’s all about fixing up mistakes. Let’s do this!

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Episode guide

3:00 – Roy’s son beat him by 200 points this week.

4:45 – The Traders’ scores and rankings weren’t exactly what they were expecting.

8:15 – George Hewett was one of the defenders who stood up.

11:10 – A trio of defenders get the -3 this week, led by Jack Crisp and his 51.

14:30 – The winner for round one scored 2281 in Fantasy Classic, but are left short on the bench.

17:40 – Popular rookie Sam De Koning will miss under concussion protocols.

20:15 – Some possible DPP additions are discussed.

23:00 – Popular trade options.

24:45 – The Traders reveal their early trade thoughts for Toyota.

26:35 – Questions from social media – follow @AFLFantasy on Twitter and like the Official AFL Fantasy facebook page.

29:25 – Calvin says to be wary of changing structure of your team based on one week of data.

31:30 – Ranking Patrick Lipinski, Tom Green and Jye Caldwell.

35:45 – Thoughts on Tristan Xerri‘s game.

40:40 – Roy has concerns on Aaron Hall despite his epic scoring.

44:20 – Can you drop Max Gawn for a cash grab? Is Tim English an option?

47:30 – How to determine who to hold and fold after round one.

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  1. Death Adders22

    March 21, 2022 at 2:32 pm

    What I really want to know is why do these 3 Stooges get away with telling everyone there experts and being allowed to put information about AFL Fantasy on the AFL web sight when the 3 of them have on idea. They get information from other players about other players on the teams (Sauces) as they call it. There been playing the game for 20 years or more and how often have they finish in the top 100. How there allowed to keep this sight going has got me beat. Maybe its to keep the kiddies they teach happy. Well I’m not a kiddy and I’ll be doing research from now on elsewhere. My advice to others that read this is to go the same as I’m doing, then maybe you might have a chance. Calvin told us all Keep J Steele as Captain he will score big LOL. I remember Calvin saying I’m not picking Dangerfield but he will be OK. Another mistake. I’ll pick M Crouch he’ll be good LOL. Don’t pick A Hall LOL. Calvin had to be convinced to pick I Heeney LOL. I’m staying away from Lipinski LOL. Don’t pick T Toranto with him filling in at Forward he will not score well LOL. I could go on but it’s not worth it. From now on I’ll only be on here for laughs.

    • Jeremy

      March 21, 2022 at 2:41 pm

      It’s not their fault or problem you have a bad team. Keep it to yourself because no one cares.

      • Death Adders22

        March 21, 2022 at 4:14 pm

        So we listen to losers do we

      • Death Adders22

        March 21, 2022 at 10:55 pm

        LOL Jeremy. Glad you told me I got a shit team. My score was 1920 which was inbetween Roy and Calvins score. Proves my point.

    • Hinchy

      March 21, 2022 at 3:09 pm

      stop having a sook about your stupid decisions. These guys actually give great advice but luck has a major role in fantasy. All the things you stated they had good reasons for saying but just got unlucky because you can’t predict the future. How about all their good calls? forget about them?

      • Death Adders22

        March 21, 2022 at 4:15 pm

        Serong had good scores at the end of last year so he will score well LOL

        • Hinchy

          March 22, 2022 at 1:10 am

          That’s pretty good reasoning as it shows his potential mate. Again they can’t predict which player play well or which ones play shit. Sounds like your a bit mad you can’t make your own fantasy team and copy other peoples and have a sook when you do bad LOL

        • Dan

          March 22, 2022 at 9:36 am

          Did someone say sook?

    • Jars

      March 21, 2022 at 3:17 pm

      You know that fantasy is meant to be fun, right? If it makes you this angry and stressed, I suggest you delete your team and invest in a stress ball. Exercise is also a good way to relieve stress and anger. Enjoy!

    • Suiiweeee

      March 21, 2022 at 3:19 pm

      hope you feel good abt urself big fella,

    • Peetah

      March 21, 2022 at 4:47 pm

      This is top tier bait

    • Rhoda

      March 21, 2022 at 5:32 pm

      Taranto* fam. Spell check it. I know some teachers that could help you with that.

    • Squid

      March 21, 2022 at 6:08 pm

      Thanks DA, hilarious!

      Oh wait, you’re serious………..

      Bahahaha! Don’t ever change champ.

    • Kingzy

      March 21, 2022 at 6:29 pm

      Your cooked mate.
      They give out great advice, and over all they are extremely entertaining.
      The advice is generally based on helping newer teams that need some advice, or helping with those 50/50 decisions.

      Its a free source, unlike the supercoach articles.

      As with all advice, its based on data. Fitness, previous history, projections, role etc.

      They cant control what role a player has, if their coach plays them 65% game time instead of 85%, if another player is out and the role changes, if an umpire grants freekick / holding the ball / penalty against, if a player decides to kick it to another team mate and loose +6s.

      Its harder for them to build teams that are unique considering they have to by contract tell everyone their teams, and have to play it more safe and stick by the advice they are giving out.

      And one round of scoring does not dictate what a player will do the rest of the season.

      Besides if you count yourself a top fantasy coach, why do you need people telling you how to play and who to pick? You should be making your own decisions and research.

    • Ray

      March 21, 2022 at 8:16 pm

      Man, if you can’t think for yourself you must be a kiddie!!! Please, do us all a favour and take your whingeing somewhere else, it’s pathetic that someone who purports to be a grown adult has to blame others for their poor choices.

    • Zac

      March 21, 2022 at 11:02 pm

      Mate, you have a fair few spelling mistakes & terrible grammar. I tink that Engrish perhaps is not your strong point?

    • Brad

      March 22, 2022 at 7:12 am

      @Death Adders22 other than Calvin atleast they are not illiterate. Half of what you wrote doesnt make sense and the other half makes you sound like a sooky little B.#!*

      If your so good hit me up at and we will play for cash $1k in each most points this season takes the cash.

    • Finn Barker-Tomkins

      March 22, 2022 at 11:31 am

      L, can you tell the future? If you knew exactly who were good picks and bad picks, why aren’t you in first right now? Don’t be a bozo

    • TJP's Heros

      March 22, 2022 at 11:12 pm

      You Death Adders22 are an absolute scum of a person who ever you are. Gladly, take your crap elsewhere, you absolute peanut. Keep it up Roy, Calvin and Warnedog love your fellas work !!

    • Jimmy

      March 23, 2022 at 12:39 am

      Mate they could score 1800 and I’d still listen because they are funny guys and run a good show. They give you tips and you make the final score. I listen to them and scored over 2000 with gawn captain? Maybe you’re just an idiot and need someone to blame for you turning out to be a loser LOL

    • Baldrick's boys

      March 23, 2022 at 7:31 pm

      You’re such an idiot…surely you have something better to do with your time?…every year you have a rant & every year you get jumped on. If you’re so good go start your own podcast/forum.
      Cal, Warn & Roy do a fantastic job – always entertaining & have done it for years…..and you know what we don’t pay a cent!
      So, please lift up that rock of yours again and pop back under….well for another couple of months til the next one….jesus mate

  2. dwl

    March 21, 2022 at 2:39 pm

    ………and we will miss your appalling speling and grammer :-)

  3. Kjaks

    March 21, 2022 at 2:41 pm

    why you feel the need to tear down a couple of lads playing fantasy for laughs is beyond me. as serious as fantasy is, is rly just for shits and gigs. take yourself somewhere else mate. this says a lot about your character, calm it down son

    • Ausman

      March 21, 2022 at 5:12 pm

      Well said Kjaks. They are here for our entertainment and they do a great job of it.

      • Death Adders22

        March 21, 2022 at 10:57 pm

        Then they shouldn’t be giving people Information on players if there doing it for laughs.

        • Squid

          March 22, 2022 at 8:11 am

          Mate, are you for real? We are not dealing with Doctors or lawyers here where people’s lives can be on the line, fantasy is a game based on a game, it’s make believe, it’s not important (unless I’m killing it) and part of the fun is the randomness, you can not predict what will happen, Martin 130….. No one saw that one, if a player goes well or not any given week no one. Knows.

          Now if you’re trolling that’s one thing, you can stop now, it’s not actually working, people think you’re mentally ill which is why I say sincerely to you, if you are being serious here please go and talk to a mental health professional, what you are writing is not something you would expect from a person with a proper grasp on reality and capacity to make sound decisions, please talk to someone today before you hurt yourself or someone else.

  4. Pig Man

    March 21, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    Serong to Lipinksi or Dusty to Heeney??

  5. Death Adders22

    March 21, 2022 at 4:17 pm

    Keep Serong he is meant to Score really well LOL

  6. Yeeters

    March 21, 2022 at 5:51 pm

    DeathAdders….calm down mate. It’s a game. ‘The Traders’ are not infallible. If you’ve chosen to take everything they’ve said as 100% fool proof and accurate….then sucks for you. There’s a word called ‘luck’. Look it up son.

  7. Warnie

    March 21, 2022 at 6:01 pm

    Bahaha. What a legend!

    • Yeeters

      March 21, 2022 at 6:38 pm

      As a side note. I beat you Warnie.
      But seriously, when will people learn a sense of decorum. It’s terrible. What had the Fantasy football living public turned into. Hey?….a copycat evolution of playing to win, without having any personal input into your own team. So sad. (Crying in the corner)

      • Cooper

        March 23, 2022 at 6:19 am

        Fantasy footy is meant to be a fun escape in this crazy world we live in. Look what is happening in the news. This is enjoyment, not anything to get so serious or nasty about.

  8. Straight shooter

    March 21, 2022 at 6:17 pm

    I listened to the traders an scored 2006 happy with that

  9. Cody

    March 21, 2022 at 6:43 pm

    hey guys.
    ranked 6kish with 2038 points. team is as follows
    def: Whit, Short, McInerney, Hewett, Sicily, McCartin (Gibcus, De Koning)
    mids: Steele, Macrae, Brayshaw, Serong, Rowell, Daicos, JHF, Ward (Mead, Hough)
    ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)
    fwd: Dunkley, Cogs, Butters, Brodie, Rachele, Martin (Baldwin, Durdin)
    I think I’ve got all the must have rooks at the moment so I’m not really sure where to go from here. Thinking about either culling Mcinerney, Serong, or Cogs but not sure how to do it or who for. Currently got 43k in the bank so a little to play around with.
    any thoughts are appreciated

    • Beady Eye

      March 22, 2022 at 10:34 am

      Serong to Lipinski’s the obvious trade, Matt Crouch another option in the same price bracket.

      Crouch didn’t put up a massive score (83) but as pointed out on the podcast, it came from only 66% TOG, so there’s plenty of upside there.

  10. Bulldog Mids

    March 21, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    Would you legends tick off Crisp and Baldwin out for Lipinski and Stengle?

  11. ProdigyFan

    March 21, 2022 at 11:13 pm

    Crisp and Short for Hall and Lipinski?

  12. Stengle

    March 22, 2022 at 5:04 am

    Is Tyson Stengle a must? Is he a better cash cow than Durdin at their respective prices?


    March 22, 2022 at 9:02 am

    Death address 22. The traders are the entertainment type podcast, its great to listern to and have a laugh. There is 7 other afl fantasy podcast on spotify i listern to. 3 of them have past winners and one is 2hrs long each week. If your looking for more help with your team and picks give them a listern.

  14. Doug

    March 22, 2022 at 10:16 am

    Gonna stick with my Rooks, ony Skinner didn’t play, and could get a game with the injuries at Port, also holding SDK because I think he’ll be back in after the 12 day break..

    Crisp -> Houston (Crisp & looks to have lost his easy +6s whereas Houston looks to cash in)
    Dusty -> English (sucked in by pre-season & English looks like he could breakout)

  15. Jules

    March 22, 2022 at 10:22 am

    Crisp and McInerny to Hall and J Smith(Melb). Bank some cash to upgrade others next week? Got pretty much all the needed rookies apart from Stengle.

  16. Breverard

    March 22, 2022 at 11:56 am

    I have all my rookies i need. I am th8nking of trading crisp and obrien to hall, lipinksi or green

  17. Dangergoat

    March 22, 2022 at 12:02 pm

    how do you loop emergency players I had jack hayes score 111 on the bench with grundy and gawn scoring low


      March 22, 2022 at 2:31 pm

      Once played you cant. If jack hayes played scored 111 then you put a non player on the r2 eg preuss, you then get the emergency points

      • Dangergoat

        March 24, 2022 at 2:47 pm

        oh so its the same as VC loop

  18. 4sight

    March 22, 2022 at 6:39 pm

    It’s round one unless trading rookie mistakes no trades hold firm simple 🤪

  19. peter howson

    March 23, 2022 at 2:48 am

    Remember to play snd hsve a bit of fun gid if you seriosly get worked up that badly over this hows uour life style mate

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