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The Thursday Scramble: Round 4

Round 4 is upon us and I take a look at the Scrambling involved in loopholing your VC.

3 rounds down and we are starting to get some valuable data and we are starting to have to deal with some injuries and some adverse team selections after the round has started. It affects your on field decisions, emergency decisions and the all important captain decisions.

How hard do you chase the Captain Loophole?

With the way that the team announcements are now this is making the captain loophole much harder to negotiate. The other factor making this harder is that at this stage of the season we have the majority of our bench players playing. So a question that many coaches asked themselves this week (and I was one of them) is whether or not they should trade in a donut to take a great VC, risk taking someone later in the weekend and hope for a late out or just take the next best available captain option.

This is a huge risk reward scenario. Last week was a real test for all coaches that didn’t have an injured or suspended player on the bench. A heap of coaches had Grundy as Vice Captain and once he had his big score it was a case of how do I get this as my Captain score this week?

Should I trade in a donut?
Whenever I am asked about this, or faced with this option myself, the answer 99% of the time is No. The only time that I would consider bringing in a donut was if that was someone that was suspended or out just for a week and they were in your plans to bring in anyway. I.e. if you were to trade in Dangerfield this week at the end of the round because you had nothing else you needed to achieve and he was someone you wanted anyway, then yes, go for it. You are still using your trade to improve your team.
I know that some people this season have traded in guys that are no chance to play at all and I am not a fan of doing that at this early stage of the season. I think that is a move that is best used in the last two or three weeks of the year to get you a win in a knockout final. But wait I hear you say, don’t you always say start with a non playing R3 (when there are no rookie rucks playing). Yes, but that different, you aren’t using a trade on them.
The risk that I see is that you will get stuck with this player when you have other things go against you in subsequent weeks.

Should I wait until all teams have been named?
Usually this will be on the Saturday night and often before the Saturday night games have started. If you don’t have an obvious loophole option in the Friday/Saturday games then this is certainly a valid play. If I take last week as an example you could have waited and seen that Highmore was named out on the Friday night for the Sat games. This week there is a chance that one of the Hawthorn rookies won’t be named and they play on Sunday. This is the right play ONLY IF you have a viable C option playing after the teams are named. So you need to make sure that if you wait you have someone like a Max, Brodie, Macrae, Merrett etc playing on the Sunday that you can use.
For me though, this is the preferred option if you can do it.

With no obvious loophole option should I just take the best available captain option?
Certainly a valid plan too. This is what I did in Supercoach last weekend and it ended up costing me about 60 points. I had the VC on Grundy, and I thought that Macrae against North was the next best captain option in my side as I thought he would go bigger than Max. So I put the C on him on the Friday afternoon only to find a few hours later that Highmore was out and I could have used him. It is certainly a risk that you may need to take. The thing is that the longer the season goes on the more and more likely you are to have a non-playing player on your bench somewhere. Don’t be afraid to take the best available before you have all the teams, if you have done your research, or listened to the mad joke telling pirate Calvin, then go for it. However, if like last week your VC in Grundy goes huge it may be worth looking at all options you have.

I guess what I am trying to say here is that there are plenty of decisions and gambles that we take playing Fantasy Footy and you just need to sit down with a level head and make sure that you have all the knowledge you can at the time and look at all the options available to you before locking in your choice. And just be aware that there will always be weeks where you make the wrong choice and there will always be weeks where you make the right one.

There’s a New Tagger in Town

Just when we thought we had seen the last of the tagging pests off with an injury on Sunday when de Boer did his hammy (and don’t get me wrong he is a great player who not only nullifies he can find the footy too) we have confirmation on Monday that O’Connor from the Cats is not just a one hit wonder. We all knew he could do it but taking down both Lachie Neale and our own Pig Tom Mitchell in consecutive weeks confirms it. So just take all this into consideration when you are looking to bring in a premium and when you are assessing your captain options.  The Cats play the Demons this week, so look out Clayton Oliver, poor bloke, de Boer one week then O’Connor the next!

MidPricer or Rookie?

There has been a lot of talk this week of some of the forced trades that people have and whether they go to a mid pricer who is looking the goods or a rookie. I think it has been covered on a lot of podcasts but I thought I would throw my two cents to say that I am in favour of the rookie here, particularly in SC and RDT where you have limited trades. What you don’t want to do is buy into a midpricer where you know that you will need to make another trade to get to your final side. This is something that will slow down your upgrade cadence to your final team. In AF you can be a little looser with this as you have more trades but just remember you might get stuck with someone because you have too many other fires to put out and then not enough cash when you trade them out to do that upgrade.

Things to Remember

  • Back to the new normal timeslots this week so no Monday game and only the one Friday game.
  • Watch for role changes in some teams where key players have gone down, i.e. Gold Coast’s ruck situation
  • Have multiple trade scenario’s ready for the carnage that is no doubt soon to hit us all!

Have a great weekend folks, it is the return of amateur footy this weekend here in Adelaide so get out and watch your local teams if you can and see some good games of footy, Go Towns!!  And just a reminder for those that read my little articles here and also something for those that are new. I can’t always get on to respond to your messages during the day due to work, however, I do read them either on the Thursday night or I try to read them during lunch. So if I don’t respond I apologise but it just isn’t always possible. But as always there are plenty of legends here that are always keen to help out with some advice and 9 times out of 10 I 100% agree with the advice that has been given.
Good luck and I will see you all next Thursday.

A passionate Port Adelaide Fan who simply loves footy! That is how I would describe myself. Catch my weekly article "The Thursday Scramble" with all the last minute things to think about for the weekend Follow: @pkd73.



  1. Macca

    April 8, 2021 at 6:59 am

    G’day legends. Need an on field player for Young this week. I’ve got $390k. Can you rank the following? Burgess, N. Cox, Chapman, Idun?

    • Dulcify

      April 8, 2021 at 7:54 am

      Of those four I would take a chance on Burgess. Should make some good cash and if given some time in the ruck should average around 60 and possibly be given ruck DPP after round 5.
      Good luck.

    • Daniel

      April 8, 2021 at 7:54 am

      Chapman, Cox, Burgess & Idun. Assuming this is on field. However I would really try to find a midpricer or DPP if you can. Not great defence options

  2. Henry

    April 8, 2021 at 7:17 am

    I’m risking Burgess. And he has some chance of getting ruck dpp.

  3. Daniel

    April 8, 2021 at 7:57 am

    If you are fielding Burgess, good luck sleeping, if on your bench I don’t mind the play but i would wait for one more week of data (CBA’s, hitouts, etc.)

  4. Matt

    April 8, 2021 at 8:01 am

    Young out or Dow out? Burgess in to replace regardless, but at least Young won’t lose any more cash. He’s not on field anyway – playing Flynn on field in place of Witts so have my pick of premiums beyond that.

    Sidenote: 5th or 6th forced trade this week if you count Green getting dropped – Danger, Rowell, Caldwell, Green, Young, Witts. Absolute cluster

    • Andrew

      April 8, 2021 at 6:27 pm

      Sounds like the exact same cluster I’ve been thru in first 3 weeks of trades, still having to hold onto the biggest disappointment in Dow due to above forced trades.

  5. Dulcify

    April 8, 2021 at 8:06 am

    Good morning Dunny. Top article. Upon checking my opponents teams last week I was amazed at how many of them had Grundy as their VC but the majority of them decided to go with Macrae as captain even though they had the opportunity to loophole him.
    I don’t have Grundy (as yet) but somehow managed 2107. Best start I’ve ever had in fantasy. Having Witts and Young and Dow doesn’t help my cause this week.
    Good luck.

  6. Matthew

    April 8, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Trading young and Clark this week what are the best combo to grab??

    Cumming and tex
    Ridley and Chapman
    Burgess and t Mitchell

    • Straight shooter

      April 8, 2021 at 12:46 pm

      Ridley chapman imi

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 2:03 pm

      Burgess and Titch for me, but only if Burgess is named as ruck.

  7. Fella

    April 8, 2021 at 8:22 am

    Cumming & Tex everyday. Ride the BEs.

  8. Brucey Don't Like Rusty

    April 8, 2021 at 8:25 am

    Chris Burgess or Liam Jones?

  9. moth man

    April 8, 2021 at 8:29 am

    Burgess for job security but Jones for points on the board. I’m risking Burgess.

    • Brucey Don't Like Rusty

      April 8, 2021 at 11:48 am

      Thanks MM. What about Lachie Jones?

      • moth man

        April 8, 2021 at 6:10 pm

        In mullet we trust

        • Brucey Don't Like Rusty

          April 8, 2021 at 7:30 pm

          Thanks MothMan, I’ve gone the MulletMan

  10. Rafa

    April 8, 2021 at 8:35 am

    A) Dow to Walker
    Young to Robertson (via DPP) + 60k
    B) Dow to Hind
    Young to Werner (via DPP)

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 2:01 pm

      I like B.
      Surely the Texan can’t keep this up…. Surely.

  11. anth80

    April 8, 2021 at 8:54 am


    Great read yet again.
    I’ve got 2 forced trades again this week. Witts and Hayden Young.
    My question.
    Should I trade Witts down to Fullarton or Treacy if named and go Young to Dunkley or Ridley? Flynn will by R2. Or hold Young this week and trade Clark to Robertson and go Witts upto Grundy?? I have Gawn as R1.

    Thanks in advance

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 3:18 pm

      Witts to Fullarton and Young to Dunkley IMO. Hopefully meaning Fullarton can hold his spot up and through the byes.

  12. Harm

    April 8, 2021 at 10:12 am

    Hi Dunny.

    Please pick 1 to bring in

    R Marshall?

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 1:59 pm

      I like Ridley just ahead of Docherty.

  13. José

    April 8, 2021 at 10:25 am

    Thoughts on Butters to A Waterman and Young to Ridley or a simple double downgrade

    • Steamer

      April 9, 2021 at 3:13 pm

      Simple option Jose.

      Its a bit late now seeing as Ridley played last night, but you need to hang on to butters after 1 bad week.

      Let him fail a few times before you trade him.


  14. Jacob

    April 8, 2021 at 10:36 am

    Should I field Robertson over Powell or Jodan?

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 3:13 pm

      I don’t think so. Powell would be the one to be replaced if you wanted to field him though.

  15. steve

    April 8, 2021 at 10:58 am

    No field Jordan

  16. Harry

    April 8, 2021 at 10:58 am

    Jiath or markov??

  17. Bill

    April 8, 2021 at 11:05 am

    I’m backing in Tex to go big against North

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 3:12 pm


  18. Jay

    April 8, 2021 at 11:05 am

    Degoey and non playing rookie for Tex and a playing bench rookie – 175k in bank
    Degoey and Flynn for Grundy and new bench rookie – 15k in bank
    Degoey and Clark for Tex and cumming/ hardwick – 170k in bank

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 3:11 pm

      Who is the playing bench rookie in 1?
      Would go last option unless the bench rookie in option 1 has a good chance of stringing games together.

  19. Anthony

    April 8, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    Hey everyone,

    I’m a little confused. With a rolling lockout, why can’t we do the VC loophole on Grundy for saturday? Hawthorn play sunday and it’s likely one of Kos or Brock get dropped so we could put the C on them? If not then you can put the C on Gawn? Do teams not open again after saturday night?

  20. Brucey Don't Like Rusty

    April 8, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    WonderMullet Lachie Jones anyone?

  21. Big boi McEvoy

    April 8, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    Trading out Young and Clark this week, best option looks like Burgess and Ridley but nervous about using Burgess at D6. Do I have any other decent options?

    • mud guts

      April 8, 2021 at 6:12 pm

      N Cox named in the ruck tonight and was on ball/wing last week. Way safer than the burger but will cost you an extra 80k.

  22. Gibbo

    April 8, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    Bit lost atm, not sure on what two trades to make this week;

    DEF: Stewart, Short, Young, Clark, Cumming, Idun (Highmore, Kosi)
    MID: Merrett, Adams, Laird, Taranto, Edwards, Gulden, Powell, Jordan (Downie, Brockman)
    RUC: Gawn, Witts (Flynn)
    FWD. Dusty, Phillips, Hind, Dow, Warner, Campbell (Rowe, Robertson)
    UTL. Meek.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

    • peterthomas25

      April 8, 2021 at 3:08 pm

      Trades spotted. You have Witts and Dow. Clark could go too, but since he’s playing and scoring better than Dow he probably holds his spot for another week.

    • MarkKickGoal

      April 8, 2021 at 4:34 pm

      Witts to tex via dpp with flynn r2 meek r3
      Young to Fogarty with laird in defs, dow on fwd bench, robertson m8

  23. Priyanshu Malik

    April 8, 2021 at 2:51 pm

    Dow and Flynn? Downgrade Flynn to like roberstson using utility and then get an Uber premium with Dow Money.

  24. Josh

    April 8, 2021 at 3:20 pm

    Cumming or Jiath and why?

  25. Allsorts

    April 8, 2021 at 3:24 pm

    Dow to Perkins pocketing 250K to upgrade clark next week
    Dow to Wicks, 25K left over

  26. EmeraldIllusion

    April 8, 2021 at 3:48 pm

    Hey guys,

    I have Witts, Clark and De Goey, I’m thinking I will go Witts & Clark to Grundy & Burgess. Or Witts & Clark to Grundy & Robertson. Which is better option?

    Or should I consider ditching De Goey before Clark?

    • Jezza

      April 8, 2021 at 5:30 pm

      Witts and Clark to Grundy and Burgess is a decent trade or even Robertson instead of burgess isn’t bad either
      I would probably get rid of Clark before degoey

  27. James

    April 8, 2021 at 4:46 pm

    Who to start on the field out of Scott, Rowe, Brockman or Lazzaro????

    • Creepy Brucey from ClownTown

      April 9, 2021 at 7:28 am

      Rowe or maybe Scott IMO

  28. Jezza

    April 8, 2021 at 5:26 pm

    Fellas need help badly, I’ve got Gawn already and gotta trade witts to either a Grundy or a rookie with Flynn at R2 and then upgrade young to a premo defender or midfielder via Jordan Clark
    I have meek at UTI so he would go to R3 if I traded witts down to a rookie

  29. OGPig

    April 8, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    Hey, first time on classic and needing help…
    Def: j Lloyd, T. Highmore, j. Short, Laird, T. Stewart, Cumming
    Mid: brayshaw, McNeil, Merrett, Jordan, Powell, brockman, gulden, dow
    Ruc: gawn, Grundy
    Fwd: dunkley, Martin, ziebell, rowe, b. Campbell, fantasia
    Bench: koschitzski, Gould, w. Phillips, downie, Hunter, Scott, Bergman, meek

    This week wanting to trade out dow and fantasia to get in walker and d. Robertson

    Any thoughts, advice or scolding welcome!!

  30. Double Parked

    April 8, 2021 at 6:21 pm

    Not to spread the fear but saw a Twitter ‘sauce’ saying Flynn might be out.. unsure why but maybe something to think about if you were planning on locking in trades tonight

    • Phteven

      April 8, 2021 at 10:57 pm

      Please no!!!!!!!!

  31. ShredderPigs

    April 8, 2021 at 6:28 pm

    I was about to ask if getting mills in tonight is a good idea, this exactly sums up my fears.

  32. Steve

    April 8, 2021 at 7:08 pm



  33. Toby

    April 8, 2021 at 7:18 pm

    (Jones, Bergman) with 312k.
    I’m think about Stephenson>Walker, Young>Burgess+449k
    Who should I trade in/out.

  34. Justin Stitchup

    April 9, 2021 at 5:48 am

    Heeney has rotten luck with injuries, poor bloke. Will have to be put on the Never Again List & I will turn him into Dunkley

  35. peterthomas25

    April 9, 2021 at 7:10 pm

    Is McEvoy a viable option for Witts if it allows me to go Coniglio to Petracca?
    Do I get English/Lycett meaning I can only get Weller/Keays/Cunnington for Coniglio?

    Appreciate any thoughts

  36. EmeraldIllusion

    April 10, 2021 at 1:31 am

    Is it smart of me to trade out Sloane? Was originally going Witts and Clark to Grundy and Burgess. But now I’m thinking I should do Witts and Sloane.

    • EmeraldIllusion

      April 10, 2021 at 1:49 am

      Oop, I see now that he’ll be out for up to 4 weeks. He’s gotta go.

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