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5 Squared – Partial Lockout

Five great DT minds and 5 burning questions, it’s partial lockout week and here at DT Talk we thought we’d give you a chance to hear some thoughts ahead of the next lockout. Starring Dunny, Rainman, TeeTee, Tbetta and Warnie, here is 5 Squared.

5squaredThere seems to be a bit of a lull in proceedings… whether it is because of the AFL’s stupid split round to start off the 2013 Premiership Season or that we’re content with our teams until teams are announced, there just isn’t much going on!

Today we bring you 5 Squared (Tbetta brought us some great articles like this last pre-season). We’ve got 5 of DT Talk’s finest together to answer 5 questions that hopefully you will find interesting reading heading into the next partial lockout.

Be sure to give the guys a follow on Twitter: Dunny (@pkd73), Rainman (@RainmanDT), Tee Tee (@TeeTeeDT), Tbetta (@tbetta9) and Warnie (@WarnieDT).



My team is not sitting as well as I had hoped. I am happy with my structure but the performance of some of my “premo’s” have let me down. Danger and Scooter Selwood certainly didn’t perform as I had hoped but I am going to give them another week to show me what they are going to do.  Goddard wasn’t up to what I wanted either, but I think he will come good.  I made a late change of Crouch out and Kommer in and on the field, very happy with that.  A 60 from a rook is more than acceptable.  I did put a VC on a guy just in case, however, that guy was Danger, so needless to say I am going to “Keep Calm and Lock Swan” for a big score on Sunday.  The rest of my guys, JJK, Cox and Heppell were serviceable.


Team is looking really good. Happy across all lines. Goddard, Hepp and Cox were uninspiring, but it is only round 1. Will use the loophole this weekend on either Cotch or Gibbs.


My DT’s not going too bad, but not great either at 285/4. Bellchambers and Goddard were a bit quiet and Heppell was a touch disappointing after a massive start; Coxy was solid without really shining. No loophole for me – I’m happy to throw the captaincy on an angry Swan, who should hopefully belt out a decent score after copping more off/pre-season stick to fuel his fire. The standout was Barlow, who looked back to his rookie best in his second year back from that broken leg; he ran out all four quarters picking up possessions at will and at $495k is a relative steal for a 105-110 averaging MID. I am seriously looking at how I might be able to get him into M5 if he lights it up again in Round 2, or even M4 if my current selection spuds it. From a fan’s perspective, the split round is such a drag… I hate not having a Sunday arvo/evening match to finish off a weekend of footy!


I’m pretty over the AFL at the moment to be honest. It’s been a disappointing start to both my DreamTeam side and my West Coast Eagles, made worse only by the fact that we have to wait another 5 days or so until I can redeem some happiness through Gibbs and the rest of Tbetta Than You.

My attempt at the loophole was an all-or-nothing type scenario, putting my faith in Scott Selwood over Dangerfield. As we know, both failed miserably and if it wasn’t for Josh Kennedy’s eye-catching 99, I’d be absolutely gutted after having “one of my best pre-seasons ever”.

I’m bracing for a low-scoring round, particularly with teams structuring up defensively so far in terms of assigning tags, rather than going head-to-head through the midfield where most the points are generated. The intensity is right up given that it’s the first round, and we’re seeing less DT points as a whole because of the hotly contested nature of the games so far. It’ll free up in the coming weeks I’m sure, but be prepared for more lacklustre scoring this weekend.


I’m currently sitting at 395 after 5… which seems on par. My let downs were Patrick Dangerfield and the popular backline combo of Brendon Goddard and Dyson Heppell. Dean Cox didn’t pull me the 100 I was expecting and was a waste as my loophole VC.  The most unique player in my side is Brent Stanton. He was the sole shining light of the weekend and hopefully we can see more performances like that across the year. I’m not going to stress or do anything stupid based on this first weekend. With every missed Josh J Kennedy pick, there is the Paul Duffield pick that I considered. It should all work out in the wash. Just need this weekend to come quicker… the split round sucks!



Normally in the ruck I am a set and forget kind of guy.  R1 for me was a no brainer.  Dean Cox was always going to be my first selected as he is every year.  R2 for me is currently Leuenberger.  At that price there is just too much upside.  His injuries do worry me but in the event he isn’t named for Saturday then I will swap him for one of Longer or Zac Smith and then reassess when he comes back.  R3 and R4 for me are probably what everyone else has and that is Blicavs from Geelong and Currie from North.  Both of these guys will get game time and will go up in price.


It was always Cox and Berger, but after not seeing Berger in NAB I brought Longer in. He will obviously play when Berger doesn’t and will be an easy downgrade when Berger is firing. R3 is Blicavs, just for early coverage. R4 has always been redundant in my mind, and due to scarcity of rookies rucks this year, even more so. $89k no name fills that spot.


Happy to avoid the Berger conundrum at this stage and watch him get a few games under his belt. I’ve run with a 1/0/3 RUC setup with Coxy in the FWD line in case there’s any early ruck carnage. Just before the first partial lockout, I decided to bring Cox into the ruck with Belly, effectively playing Macaffer over Blicavs. I’m probably going to regret that as I think Blicavs suits the new ruck rules quite well as he has great natural athleticism. If he does as well as I expect him to (70s-80s), I’ll persist with a gun/rookie ruck combo. The real concern is that the main rucks in all games so far (Belly, Jacobs, Cox and Griffin) looked absolutely spent after three quarters and I think that: (1) the days of the solo ruck are numbered; and (2) 95+ averaging rucks may also be a thing of the past.


The fitness part of that quote is encouraging, but not much else Vossy said impressed me in regards to Leuenberger. If I was a betting man, and I am, I would put my money on Berger having a game or two in the reserves before returning; he’s just too underdone at this stage. And if he does play, he’ll be a prime candidate for the vest surely, as we’ve seen clubs are unafraid to substitute their stars with Embley and Zaharakis so far.

My Ruck line reads like Cox, Leuenberger, Blicavs and Currie, so pretty vanilla. That R2 slot is far from locked, and if the Berger isn’t named, I’m leaning towards trading him out for a Longer or Zac Smith type – for whom I kept enough cash in the bank for this exact scenario. I can then get Leuey back in once he’s fit and firing, preferably before any price rise. After all, what are we going to use all these pre-upgrade trades for if not these type of injuries qualms?

Backing in Blicavs while Leuey gets back to full fitness is another option I’m considering, but it definitely has more risk factor involved and I historically like to keep it pretty safe with my side early in the season. And no, I won’t be making wholesale structure changes because of one pre-season niggle – I’m going to back in my pre-season research on this one.


Certainly the bone of my contention this year. If you purchased the Cheat Sheet, you would see what my plan is… Cox/Leuenberger but if the ‘Berger doesn’t play, Longer comes in. Pretty simple. I am stressing out about this massively. In that other game, I have gone with two premiums… something I wish I could do here but after a whole six months of planning a side around a mid-priced ruck, I really don’t want to change the rest of my team based on that. Who knows, if some  odd selection things come out this week I may follow my SC decision and whack in Goldstein instead and mix things up elsewhere. But it’s still probably a 90% chance that Longer will play and I will sideways trade him to the ‘Berger when he returns.



My strategy is pretty much Guns n Rookies.  My Backs are 3Premo and 6 Rookies.  There is just too many Rookie priced guys that are going to play back here.  There is a lot of cash to be made in the backline this year.  Midfield I am running with 5 Premo and 5 Rookies. This is the engine room and there are plenty of points to be had but also plenty of cash to be made.  Rucks as per above I have 1 Premo, 1 Mid and 2 Rookies.  Forwards was thin pickings in rookies this year so I have 4 Premos 2 Midfielders and 2 Rookies.  I normally avoid Midpricers but people like Josh J Kennedy were too good to pass up.


  • Def: 3-0-5 It is where you need to play the rooks, solid scores with great JS… Any more than 3 premos feels like it compromises other lines.
  • Mids: 5-1-5 I have gone with the 2 greatest DTers of all time and what I believe to be their successors, Mini Swan (Beams) and Mini Gaz (Cotchin) taking a punt on Rich as has all signs pointing to Bang! Lucas is my midpriced punt and if he goes pear shaped becomes best bubble rook, but confident he will do well.
  • Rucks: 1-1-2 Cox is a no brainer. Longer has better JS than any of the rooks and similar scoring potential, will stay there until Berger is back and playing the right footy.
  • Fwds: 4-1-3 I was initially running 5 premos and Karnezis here, but think Macaffer deserves an on filed spot.

No cash left which I am not worried about, as I have the higher priced premos in every line, so I can downgrade for cash if I need to. 44 trades negates the need for big wads of cash in bank I believe.

My theory for the whole year is to start with the best and maybe a punt or two and will always have sufficient time and $$ to jump on whomever the boom player is.


After a massive mid-priced debacle last year, I’ve limited myself to Karnezis this season. My structure currently stands at DEF 4/0/4, MID 4/0/6, RUC 1/0/3 and FWD 5/1/2. I’ve got Hanley in D4 as the Lions have favourable early fixtures and he’s a flat track bully. After crunching the numbers between Danger, Scooter and JPK, I’ve stuck JPK in M4 for his consistency – he had just two sub-80 scores in 23 games last year and I expect him to improve on his 101 average. Bellchambers is my R1 gamble and while he didn’t overly impress me last Friday, an average of around 85 is well within his reach. My FWD line is fully loaded with out-of-position players: Cox, Bartel, Zorko, Rocky, Dusty and Karnezis. With the lack of FWD rookie depth, this was a fairly obvious line to stack.


My structure was completely dependent on what rookies were available, and I’ve made a point to bring in the best, irrespective of position. This means that I’m rookie-heavy in defense and the midfield, and without on-field rookies in my forward and ruck lines – which is something that’s never happened in any of my Round 1 squads.

Numerically, It’s looking like 3-0-5/5-0-5/1-1-2/4-2-2 at this stage, and barring any catastrophes, that’s what I’ll limp into the full lockout with. I really wanted to pick mid-pricers in my DEF (Hibberd/Jacobs, etc.) and MID (Moloney) lines because I think that would have been the ideal way to go, but again it was a case of the rookies available largely dictating my structure.

I looked into some cheeky DPP links, such as Cox or Broughton in the forward line, but I shelved that idea in the end; I’ll rely on the two trades per week to get me out of any unexpected issues.


I think I’m pretty stock standard really. In defence, I have 3 premium defenders, 5 rookies. Midfield, I have 5 premiums, 5 rookies. In the rucks I have 1 premium, 1 midpricer and 2 rookies and in the forward line I’ve gone 4 premiums, 1 midpricer and 3 rookies. I am pretty happy with this as it is really a typical guns n rookies strategy that has been quite successful in the past. I know there is a lot of value out there this year, but you’re really gotta nail the right midpricers to get the real gain from it. Something I’m not confident on… apart from the token Leuenberger bargain and the hard to ignore NAB Cup form of Patrick Karnezis.



Obviously I am worried about the rookies that I have selected not getting named.  However,I am pretty confident with them, the ones that I have picked are, I believe, in the best 22 at their clubs.  Vests are of course a worry and clearly we will know for Thursday night and the Bulldogs v Lions game on Saturday so I will be close to the computer for both of those games and ready to shuffle.  Putting Kommer on the ground means I can put two of my preferred rookies on the bench if they get the vest.  Of course my main selection worry is with Leuenberger.  If he isn’t playing then Longer must be first ruck.


My only concern is if Lucas is named as sub.. If so I will downgrade him to Koby Stevens and pocket the $50k. Comfortable with the rest.


Four playing MID rookies is causing me a fair amount of worry, especially with guns like Danger and Scooter having quiet games already. My last MID bench rookie spot is also undecided, with Anderson, Mitchell, Evans and Jones the final candidates. I hear the protests about not locking in Mitchell yet, but his superb tank and poor disposal might see him assigned to tagging or lock-down duties. Dusty is the only other query, especially since it was a toss of a coin between him and last Friday night’s centurion, Matty Wright. Hopefully Choco has sorted the kid out and he gets back to playing to his potential this season.


My F8 position is my biggest worry rolling into the 2nd partial lockout. If Dwyer isn’t upgraded and named (although my mail is that he will be), then Rowe is my preference as a RUC/FWD link with Cox rather than overpaying for a Patton type. Hopefully Dwyer gets a gig and it becomes a non-issue.

I’m a little worried about Kane Mitchell and whether he’ll be upgraded and named – I think he’s the perfect type of player for the vest as well, so that’s consigned him to the bench for my side. Viney is another vest concern that we won’t know about until after lockout, which leaves me with another 2 rookie spots to fill, and I’d rather they weren’t subs.

Apart from the rookies and obviously the tricky Leuenberger situation, I’m pretty happy with the make-up of my side and I won’t be stressing about any last minute Premium decisions on Saturday morning if all goes to plan.


The full lockout before the Lions and Bulldogs game will be a telling one. We’ll probably know Leuenberger‘s fate before then, but that might be one we sweat on. Vlastuin is a fair chance for the Tigers vest, but we’ll know that before the Thursday partial lockout. As with Sam Rowe who may now sneak into my F7 or F8 position as he’ll be debuting this week. The gamble to start Macaffer may just pay off. It could mean I free up some dollars as I have Patton riding the pine there. Other than that… it’s all the hope that on Sunday Wines, Mitchell (who I hope is upgraded), Stevenson and Pittard avoid the vest. Mitchell is the only one there that worries me. I kind of wish I had Kommer on the field now with Mitchell on the pine. Everyone else is looking pretty good. Bring on Thursday night teams!



DUNNY Rockliff.  Other teams are now well aware of Zorko and they will pay him a lot more attention.  Also Rockliff is underpriced if you ask me and I think Zorko is nearly fully priced and may suffer from 2nd year blues.

RAINMAN Zorko. Amazing hunger for the contest. Nearly a 3rd of his points from tackles!

TEE TEERocky (just!) because of his class and mooted return to the midfield.

TBETTA Rocky. I have both, but Rocky was one of my first picked. Very underpriced on what we know he can do, and he’s getting the midfield time that he needs to do it.

WARNIE Rockliff. He’s our boy, simple as that… but he has averaged 112 before! He’s way unders.

SCORE: Rockliff 4, Zorko 1


DUNNY Cotchin.  This was a close call for me.  I think that Cotchin is a jet.  I think he has a bigger ceiling than Deledio, however, I like Lids because of his consistency.  But Cotchin in a close one.

RAINMAN Cotch. 10 tons in a row last year against the best taggers in the comp… Superstar!

TEE TEEDeledio because he just runs all day and is unlikely to cop the #1 tag as often as Cotch.

TBETTA Cotchin. I see Cotchin being the next Ablett, so I’m well and truly on Team Cotch. He is however a prime candidate for the Rockliff Effect, so I’ve overlooked him at this stage.

WARNIE Deledio. Only because in the matches I have seen the two of them play in, Lids showed more ‘DT’ game… much more sluttier!

SCORE: Cotchin 3, Deledio 2.


DUNNY JPK.  But once again this is a close one.  I had Joel last year and was happy with him.  Joel’s concussion injury risk and suspension risk worries me whereas JPK doesn’t have that sort of history and is a chance to continue to rise in scoring whereas I think we know what we will get with Joel.

RAINMAN Jelwood. Very underrated. Caddy and Duncan in Mids will help him.

TEE TEE JPK because of his consistency… Again, just two sub-80 scores in 2012!

TBETTA Selwood. I haven’t seriously considered either, but Selwood out of the two for me. I like Sydney’s early draw and I think JPK is a dead-set gun, but he’s more of a SC type than a DT accumulator.

WARNIE JPK. Purely because he has a great early draw and with 44 trades, I think he is a perfect candidate for some fixture trading… start with him and then offload to an underpriced premium who has a good run coming up.

SCORE: JPK 3, Selwood 2.


DUNNY Pendles.  He has the pedigree.  Beamer was great last year and I think he is a bit over priced and like Zorko I think that the other teams are now much more aware of him.  Pendles is pretty much an accumulator  and I am worried about Beams off a breakout year.

RAINMAN Beams… Will not get any tagging attention.. Very close call though.

TEE TEE Beams because he is a burgeoning DT piglet, learning from the master himself, big pig Swan.

TBETTA Pendlebury is fantasy royalty and is definitely underpriced on where his ‘career arc’ was taking him before getting injured last season. Beams is a jet but I’ll sit back and see whether the Rockliff Effect hits him or not before I consider jumping on mid-year.

WARNIE Pendles is more underpriced thanks to injury last year, so that’s why I would jump on him to start with.

SCORE: Pendles 3, Beams 2.


DUNNY Dusty… just.  I had both of these guys last year and I yelled a lot of abuse at both of them!  Robbo is more incosistent if you ask me, we know Dusty fades, but he doesn’t tend to have complete shockers.  Whilst they are both fiery customers, Robbo is more likely to get rubbed out.

RAINMAN Dusty. Robbo’s forward app tagging roles look like they will still exist under Mick.

TEE TEEDusty because he has scope for improvement and he owes me a 90+ after Wright just tonned up!

TBETTA Dusty. I think he is going to breakout one year soon, and I don’t want to miss that explosion, so I’m on him at the moment.

WARNIE Dusty. Both are loose blokes, but I think Dusty is less loose on the ground. A bigger tank will see him improve by at least 5ppg this year.

SCORE: Dusty 5, Robbo 0.

Thanks for reading. Discuss the 5 Squared questions in the comments.

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    March 26, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Might be a bit out irrelevant but i’m sure lots of people have the concern. What to do now with Lecras? I was stoked with him cruising with a big score brewing and then boom the dream was over in an insint. Who is the best option to replace?

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      March 26, 2013 at 11:16 am

      who’s the rest of your forward line? and how much cash do you have?

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      March 26, 2013 at 11:18 am

      He’s at kinda an awkward price so for me your options depend on where he sat in relation to your fwd line. Anywhere between F1-3 and you’ll want to find the cash to upgrade to a Bartel/rocky type player. F4-6 and you’d downgrade to a fwd midpricer like Kennedy/Karnezis/Petterd or someone like that… Just my opinion

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    March 26, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Have seriously doubts about Dangerfield and the tag. Armfield’s job on him preseason had me worried and now I’m even more worried. This year he’s going to get tagged more than ever and looking at his history he just does not score at all well when he’s getting tagged. Could be one of the biggest DT disappointment of 2013.

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      March 26, 2013 at 11:43 am

      Well Barlow scored well and is consistant so if you have worries go for barlow instead

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      March 26, 2013 at 7:45 pm

      Hear you but I don’t think it was the tag as much as the overall pressure from the whole Essendon team. They had the whole area where Danger works cluttered with congestion. It won’t be so hard for Danger to score every week.

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    March 26, 2013 at 11:12 am

    Nick Lower anyone?

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    What the bejeebers

    March 26, 2013 at 11:29 am

    What do you guys think about JPK vs Pendlebury??
    Currently I have Pendles, but hearing so much about JPK is putting worry in my mind.

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      March 26, 2013 at 12:47 pm

      Pendles. JPK is good, but unproven, and a little inconsistent. Pendles is a true Uber Premo.

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      March 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm

      Was thinking the same thing. I have Pendles atm but JPK looks like he could average 110 this year.

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        March 26, 2013 at 8:33 pm

        Pendles + Cotchin on par with pricing – which one?

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    March 26, 2013 at 11:37 am

    varcoe or k stevens in the midfield??

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      March 26, 2013 at 1:15 pm

      stevens for me, heaps of upside to him

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      March 26, 2013 at 2:38 pm

      Yeah to get someone like Stevens for 30-50k more than a first round draft pick is a pretty good move I reckon.. What about Varcoe up forward???

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    March 26, 2013 at 11:43 am

    Sam Rowe to play for blues, Sandi out for 12 weeks, Max Bailey to make a return for hawks, Currie is being considered for call up.

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      March 26, 2013 at 12:07 pm

      Sam Rowe will get the vest for sure wouldn’t he?

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        March 26, 2013 at 1:26 pm

        Good news is you get a chance to find out before the game. Considering the lack of fwd and ruck rooks, game time is good news.

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          March 26, 2013 at 1:45 pm

          got him on the bench ….if he gets the vest, doesnt matter, like you said, realy lack of options down there

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    March 26, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    am I the only person on the aaron young bandwagon???? finished the year very strong and has put up some solid numbers through the nab cup in what looks to be Ports best 22.

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      March 26, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      Yes I think you are the only one. I just don’t see him scoring enough regularly enough.

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        March 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm

        yeah but when I look at lee, dwyer, neade I just rekon his price is gonna be as good as any other rooks up forward, if anything he will give you half a score

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    March 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    The berger > Tom Hickey? Pretty athletic, blitzed McEvoy apparently in their intra-club match, could suit new rules? Maybe?

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    March 26, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Hi Guys.
    Was after your thoughts or an explanation.
    The early price drops of premos this year looks to be a lot less than premos last year. I reckon last year and the year before pretty much all the expensive premos had predictions of significant price drops over the first 6 weeks where as this year players like Swan and Ablett look as though their price drop will be tiny even though they are significantly more expensive than last year.
    Do you think there price will drop more and if not, how come the price drops seem a lot less this year?

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      March 26, 2013 at 3:54 pm

      depends mate, its hard to tell now because they havnt even played yet (im assuming your going by assistant coach projected scores). if in the first three weeks the players can average above their break-even then their price will stay the same, for ablett he will have to average above 124 in the first 3 weeks to increase from $624,000. youll find that every premo at some stage of the year will put up a stinker score and drop heaps in price.

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      March 26, 2013 at 5:45 pm

      Has most to do with the magic number. As lower priced players (rookies and performing mid-pricers) rise in price, premos drop. Last year there were many more players rising quickly in price early so premos dropped quickly. This year as there are fewer rookies playing early they will drop slower. You will still see them drop, overall they have to as lower priced players make dollars, but will be less and less as the season goes on.

      think that’s how it works

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      March 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm

      assistant coach has all rookies projected to score 0’s, which obviosuly they wont. so when they start playing and scoring. their prices will go up more than assistnt coach predicts, there rise will mean the average premo price drop will increase. as the sum of all players price’s remains the same throughout the year.

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    March 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Boyd out 2-3 weeks

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    Big Feller

    March 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    OK – Gun to the head.

    Which one out of Z Smith or B Longer?

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      March 26, 2013 at 4:32 pm

      Smith will play more. He’d be my choice if you have the dosh.

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        March 26, 2013 at 7:18 pm

        I went Smith but i’m unsure at the moment. I’m just going to trade him out for Berger when he gets back anyway

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    March 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Not seeing much love for Matt Spangher. Surely he’ll net a safe 100k+ return??

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      March 26, 2013 at 5:00 pm

      He has the kicking skills of an Auskicker, he’s a chop and Hawks wouldn’t allow a player like him to tear apart their well set kicking in the backline, I don’t think he’ll manage many games at all

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        March 27, 2013 at 2:19 pm

        Thanks for the link ADEZ. Lots to think about with little time to do it…

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    March 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    What are peoples thoughts on the Beamer?
    should average 116-120 but would appreciate other thoughts

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      March 27, 2013 at 2:21 pm

      Even though I think you can’t go too wrong with the Dane Jnr I would still go with Pendles over him (or Boyd if he was fit). Call it safe/boring play. There’s less risk in him than the likes of Sidebottom or even Daisy though IMO.

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    March 26, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Sj having knee surgery
    Footy Tragic ‏@FootyTragic 8m
    Steve Johnson has had knee surgery today, ruling him out from the start of the season (on top of his suspension). Return date is TBA.

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    March 26, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    Ahhh, that makes sense.
    I thought it had something to do with the magic number but didn’t quite understand it, so that info about more rookies the past two years causing the faster price drops makes sense.

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      March 26, 2013 at 5:59 pm

      Above was meant as a response to Kelonwheels

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    March 26, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    UPDATE: Kane Mitchell has been upgraded to the senior list and will play against the Dees this week.

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      March 26, 2013 at 7:03 pm

      Same for RAMPE i heard….

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    March 26, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    better option than Armstrong? cheaper or more expensive

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    DT Tragic

    March 26, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    need 1 more player, Elite league draft starting at 9AEDT (half an hour) 242223

    get on it!

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    March 26, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    rampe anyone? 89.3k down side hes a mid

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    March 27, 2013 at 1:07 am

    Great read guys!

    Rainman’s views and ideas are always brilliant, but his 5-1-5 mid setup is pure genius!

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      March 27, 2013 at 11:11 am


      I get special compensation for living in Tassie!

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        March 27, 2013 at 12:53 pm

        Haha. Fair enough!

        One question… and this applies to your excellent finding premo articles too…
        At what price point do you consider a mid-price player becoming a premo?
        ie… Barlow, Fyfe, Greene all under 500k

        Currently my mid set up is 1/4/5
        (Swan/ Beams, Pendles etc/ rookies)

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          March 27, 2013 at 2:15 pm

          I base it on output rather then price… A true Premo in the Mids is someone that has averaged over 100 for more then 1 year.. But there are exceptions.. I,e, Cotchin. His 10 consecutive 100s is too hard to ignore.

          I think that the are only 4 true Uber Premos, being Swan Gaz Boyd and Pendles… However I believe that this year we may see the changing of the guard. Guys like Beams, Cotchin, Watson, Danger, JPK, Barlow, Swallow etc are all in for very big years I think.

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    March 27, 2013 at 9:23 am

    Great read =]

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    luke skywalker

    March 27, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Any interest in Watts as a left-field FWD pick? $360K and playing as rebounding defender type who can sneak forward for a goal or two. No longer under the spotlight, ball should spend a lot if time in Melbourne’ back half and by all reports he’s had a great off-season.

    Is this a eccentrically brilliant POD pick, or have I just lost my mind?

  23. Brak


    March 27, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Does everyone think Lucas is worth the extra 50K over Stevens. At 200K Stevens is almost Rookie priced and I currently have him. I am also slightly more worried about Lucas’s job security and maybe being a vest candidate. On the other hand Lucas scored 90pts per minute in the NAB cup? What are peoples thoughts?

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      March 27, 2013 at 12:07 pm

      @ 90 points per minute I think everyone would go Stevens haha :)

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    March 28, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    My team:
    Defenders:Goddard, Gibbs, Heppell, b goodes, Stevenson, terlich, heath, pittard
    Mids: Swan, beams, delidio, jpk, moloney, k mitchell, wines, omeara, viney, crouch
    Rucks: Cox, longer, Currie, blicavs
    Forwards: bartel, Rocky, buddy, Dusty, Zorko, patty k, Dwyer, Richard.

    What do you think?
    $69000 left

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