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GWS-Sydney-Carlton NAB Round 1 Review

To round out Round 1 of the NAB Cup, Anthony took a look at the Giants, Swans and Blues from Blacktown. He shared his AFL Fantasy thoughts with us.


So this is it! Last game of the three-way format before the real stuff kicks off next week (well as real as you can get for NAB). As always just use these results as rough guides.

Here are the results:

Game 1: Greater Western Sydney 0.5.2 – 32 def by Carlton 0.4.10 – 34
Game 2: Sydney Swans 0.3.6 – 24 def by Carlton 1.5.7 – 46
Game 3: Sydney Swans 1.3.1 – 28 def by Greater Western Sydney 0.7.10 – 52


Started slow against GWS but came out firing against the Swans and never took their foot off winning both games.

Next Game: vs Fremantle Saturday 2nd March @ Etihad

Gibbs (Mid/Def $473,300) – 36 and 34. Played both games in the middle, 18 disposals and 4 tackles, running absolutely everywhere attacking the footy. Absolute Lock if these games were anything to go by.

McLean (Mid $516,200) – 31 and 43. Could be an interesting POD pick but unfortunately his price will rule him out of a lot of teams. Chases the ball and will never get tagged with Judd and Murphy in the same mids. Keep an eye on him in your draft leagues though.

Rowe (Ruck/Fwd $108,500) – 44 and 16. Took the most of his opportunities in the first game. Could be an excellent cash cow but needs to impress more during this preseason to be a genuine option. Too much competition for his spot at Carlton.

Murphy (Mid $522,000) – 18 and 33. Another genuine option from Carlton for your midfield. Scored well considering he never looked like he got out of 2nd gear.


Scores for Carlton: (v GWS) Rowe 44, Gibbs 36, Casboult 35, Hampson 32, McLean 31, Robinson 26, Simpson 25, Yarran  24, Bell 23, Ellard 23, Laidler 23, Murphy 18, Graham 17, Walker 16, Lucas 15, Watson 15, Joseph 12, Curnow 11, Garlett 10, White 10, O’Keeffe 9, Collins 6, Duigan 6, Henderson 4.

Scores for Carlton: (v Sydney) McLean 43, Hampson 40, Jamison 35, Gibbs 34, Murphy 33, Carrazzo 32, Casboult 31, Yarran 31, Simpson 29, Betts 25, Dale 25, Ellard 23, Armfield 19, Walker 18, Henderson 17, Lucas 16, Rowe 16, Bell 15, Davies 13, Garlett 10, Robinson 10, McCarthy 8, Joseph 6, Tuohy 4.


Greater Western Sydney:

Unlucky not to come out of this round with two wins, showed lots of promise especially with Patton and Cameron working together in the forward line. Looking a lot bigger after their second preseason and continuing to look like they’re going to be a force in years to come.

Next Game: vs Brisbane Saturday 2nd March @ Wagga

Whitfield (Mid $183,700) –  Playing wide outside mid, GWS seem to have a lot of confidence in using him as their wing option when switching out of defense  Fantastic awareness for a first year player. 

Greene (Mid $495,700) – 29 and 66. Started slow in the first game but was everywhere against the Swans. Finished the evening with a combined 23 disposals including 2 goals, which is always great to see from a midfielder. Doesn’t look like slowing down this year and could be a great POD pick if you can fit him in.

Miles (Mid $346,400) – 70 and DNP. Plays a very fantasy friendly game in that he tackles and kicks a lot! Only played the first game against Carlton but managed 6 tackles. Unfortunately according to @RLGriffin85 he has been on the outer with the GWS coaching staff at the selection table. This is a shame but hopefully for us he can do everything right and break into their 22 because his scoring potential is massive.

O’hAilpin (Ruck/Fwd $157,700) – 8 and DNP. Confession time. I’ve been strongly considering O’hAilpin this preseason as I think he represents a lot of value. So I watched him closely today as he had more ‘facepalm’ moments than most players do in their careers. The moment that stuck in my mind was when he lead for the ball, dropped the mark, then dragged down his opponent without the ball to give away a free kick (and more importantly, lose 3 points). Hopefully he can improve and provide the value he is capable of but it wont be for my team.

Patton (Fwd $183,300) – 25 and 34. Goes against my rule of picking young KPP’s but this kid will be hard to ignore. Easily in GWS best 22 so guaranteed game time, very cheap and is very effective once the ball hits the ground for a kid of his size. Definitely worth a look.


Scores for GWS: (v Carlton) Miles 70, Treloar 43, Mohr 40, Tomlinson 37, Whitfield 32, Greene 29, Gilham 28, Palmer 28, Patton 25, Coniglio 22, Adams 21, Corr 20, Kennedy 20, Smith 20, Bugg 18, Scully 18, Shiel 18, Davis 16, Giles 16, Cameron 15, Hampton 14, Sumner 12, O’hAilpin 8, Buntine 4

Scores for GWS: (v Sydney) Greene 66, Smith 38, Ugle 36, Patton 34, Wilson 34, Reid 32, Cameron 30, Darley 28, Giles 27, Frost 26, Palmer 23, Mohr 20, Scully 20, Kennedy 16, Adams 15, Whiley 15, Tomlinson 13, Aylett 12, Hampton 11, Treloar 11, Edwards 9, Plowman 9, Davis 8, Golds 8.



Sydney were not impressive. Whether it’s because they don’t take NAB seriously or are a month behind everyone in preparation I’m not sure. But take their results and output with a grain of salt because this was a very rusty and almost uninterested Sydney.

Next Game: vs St Kilda Sunday March 3rd @ Etihad

O’Keefe (Mid $499,300) – 50 and 26. Put in a solid performance as always. Can’t be selected as a fwd this year so he could provide POD to your mids if you have the space for him.

Towers (Mid $107,200) – 18 and 37. Mature age rookie who got better as the games went on. Has a bit of pace about him which he used to sneak forward for a goal. Definitely worth watchlisting, so far looks the more likely of the Swans rookies for games.

Armstrong (Def $249,900) – 25 and 36. Looked good showing a bit of pace as a rebounding defender. Don’t think he’s in the swans best 22 yet but he did he chances no harm.

Lamb (Fwd $108,500) – 17 and 31. 20 years old and been on the Sydney list a few years, been very unlucky with injury/personal circumstances. Showed a bit of promise but I don’t think this is his year either. Sydney just have too many options up forward.

Cunningham (Mid $102,700) – 34 and 24. Looks a lot bigger this year and worked himself into the play quite a bit. Did his chances of playing no harm with these games but I still think Towers may be ahead of him for games.


Scores for Sydney: (v Carlton) McVeigh 59, O’Keefe 50, K. Jack 39, Johnson 38, Bird 35, Cunningham 34, White 27, Armstrong 25, Walsh 21, Lloyd 19, Lockyer 19, Parker 18, Towers 18, Grundy 17, Lamb 17, Richards 17, Biggs 16, Reid 13, Everitt 10, Rampe 10, B. Jack 6, Naismith 3

Scores for Sydney: (v GWS) Grundy 43, Towers 37, Armstrong 36, Hannebery 35, Johnson 33, Bird 32, McVeigh 32, White 32, Everitt 31, Lamb 31, Reid 28, O’Keefe 26, Parker 26, Rampe 26, Cunningham 24, K. Jack 21, Richards 21, Lockyer 15, Naismith 11, Biggs 10, Membrey 6, Richards 4, B. Jack 3, Walsh 3.


So that’s it! Did anyone surprise or impress you? Let me know who is now either on or off your watchlist/radar!


As always you can find me rambling on twitter @Anthonydsmith86

Joining the DT Talk writing team in 2013, Anthony is a West Coast boy (man, we have a lot of Eagles lovers here) and he will bring us plenty of great content again this year. @anthonydsmith86.



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    February 24, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    Great write-up but damn, Setanta could be on the outer based on this craphouse of a round; some GWS supporters I hear from have him in the best 22 but could change with this. Only the NAB though, doubt there are too many who will get more games than him.

    Patton seriously vying for a bench forward spot or an F6.

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      February 25, 2013 at 11:23 pm

      Nah, he won’t be on the outer. He’s too versatile for the inexperienced team to not play, and his effort was there, just the delivery was terrible. Giants bombed long way too often, and I’d mostly contribute this to the conditions.

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    February 24, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    How did Kieran Jack look? Ready to break out into the elite mid we had him pencilled in as 2 years ago?

    Strongly considering him as a POD in the mids and at the moment I’m tossing up between him, Scott Selwood and Toby Greene

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      February 24, 2013 at 11:24 pm

      Jack was consistent but as I said, the swans really didn’t give us much. I’m not sure if he’ll ever be ‘elite’ but as a pod mid at least you know what your getting from him, kinda like Priddis

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      February 25, 2013 at 12:20 am

      I currently have Jack in my team purely on the basis that he’s a smoky with much less risk and more upside in comparison to most other smokies, his first two games are against GWS and Gold Coast, giving him every chance to prove his worth. Could be and should be a great POD come the start of the season

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    February 25, 2013 at 12:24 am

    My thoughts on some of the Giants players.

    Patton is pretty close to a lock for me. I’ll take his KPP inconsistency and pay that little bit extra, as he will play every week. Not many other forwards at his price have that security.

    o’hAilpin didn’t play amazing, but I’ll still be tracking him closely the next few games. Rowe is now his major competitor, but I’d think Setsy has much better job security at this stage.

    Greene will be a very interesting POD, and wouldn’t be surprised if he was picked up somewhere in every draft.

    Ugle a dark horse to get games in the backline. Especially with Buntine down (for now). He’s looking a bit more composed with his ball use than last year, and GWS could use his speed to break the line.

    Scully could improve, but may be more of a draft prospect. Tonight wasn’t a great reflection of his role as Ward was out. Likely will score better as Super Coach though.

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      February 25, 2013 at 3:26 am

      Cheers Griff!

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      The jet man

      February 25, 2013 at 11:22 am

      I agree Patton is looking like a good option but i disagree he will play every game. They need to get AFL experience into him – sure, but the way Sheedy rested and rotated players last year you’d expect that to happen again. He’s their future star and they’re not trying to push for the 8 yet so there would be no reason to play him every game. Seasoned veterans themselves find it hard to play every game.
      I guess he only needs to play the first 6-8 games though to warrant selection…

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        February 25, 2013 at 2:52 pm

        Just my opinion but I think they’ll want Cameron and Patton playing as many games as possible together to build that cohesion that will rip defenses apart in the future. If he continues with the high rotations this year I think it will be limited to all the fringe players as he’d know who is core 14 or so players are so he’ll be building around them.
        As I said, just my opinion but I’d be very surprised if we see the level of rotations he initiated last year

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          February 25, 2013 at 11:26 pm

          Yeah what i was getting at is Patton will play every game they can ferry out of him pending his match fitness with the odd week off. Obviously not many players go every round, so was more indicating how secure his position is even if he has an off week, which other rookies don’t have.

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    February 25, 2013 at 1:25 am

    Hey Grif could Patton be an F6 option or too low scoring, so would be a bench option instead? As an F6 Patton or Byrnes?

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    February 25, 2013 at 7:30 am

    I Think Towers is a MID only not a FWD which sucks because I was hoping to squeeze him in

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    February 25, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Did Tom Mitchell play?

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      February 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm

      No he didn’t, haven’t heard any news as to why not…

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    Dream on!

    February 25, 2013 at 8:41 am

    What sort of role was Robinson playing? His scores weren’t great.

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      February 25, 2013 at 2:20 pm

      No, not sure why not. He was named in the original squad.

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      February 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      He was playing through the middle, honestly didn’t look like he was trying. I wouldn’t let these scores influence any decisions regarding him. Didn’t look like he gave a shit…

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        Dream on!

        February 25, 2013 at 4:52 pm

        Yeah, playing role is all I’m really interested in and midfield is what I wanted to hear. Hopefully he can keep that spot, it may be harder for him this year with Gibbs spending more time in there.

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    February 25, 2013 at 9:10 am

    robinson was tagged in the second game (thus the 10)

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    Dyl pickle

    February 25, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Patton, Byrnes or Varcoe?? Please help

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      February 25, 2013 at 2:47 pm

      For me I’d say Varcoe if he’s on your field, Patton of he’s on your bench

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        Dyl pickle

        February 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm

        Cheers buddy love your work!

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    February 25, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    thoughts on Shaun Hampson??
    possible breakout year?

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      Sam Bowler

      February 26, 2013 at 12:46 pm

      Looked pretty good but with Kreuzer and Warnock competing for spots I’d be slightly concerned paying 330k for a bloke who may miss plenty of football.

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    Dyl pickle

    February 25, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    Sorry for being so off topic but who would you choose out of Moloney and embley

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      February 25, 2013 at 7:38 pm

      If you got to the Hawthorn-Gold Coast-Brisbane review i asked nearly the same question asking who’s the best mid priced player out of all of them e.g; emblem moloney ball parker… and he said at the moment definitely moloney

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        February 25, 2013 at 8:01 pm

        Moloney is probably ahead at the moment, especially if he’ll be escaping tags at the Lions. He’s looking trim and attacking everything, definately looking like playing every game.
        Embley is a worry because he’s getting older and west coast has incredible depth in his position. He’s looking incredibly fit and I’d love to see him playing often but i’m worried about him being a vest candidate. The slightest knock or issue with his body and you can bet west coast will have no hesitation resting him.
        Ball you know your going to get a 80-90 avg out of him but until we see him play this week you can’t say much. Being the more expensive of the three you’ll want him to be the best option. My only issue with Ball is the possibility of whether rotation will affect his output. Both Sidebottom and Beams had breakout seasons without him last year so it will be interesting to see how they all fit in together in regards to game time.
        It sounds cliche’ at this point in time but you’ll have to wait and see the next three week with these three if your only selecting one and make your best judgement call.
        But as of right this minute, my money is on Moloney :)
        (sorry for the essay!)

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          Dyl pickle

          February 25, 2013 at 8:05 pm

          Thanks so much buddy that’s what I needed to hear. Love all the info aswell

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    February 25, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    Would patton be a better option then byrnes or even varcoe?

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      February 25, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      As I mentioned above, right now I think Varcoe is the best option on your field and Patton is your best option if he’s on your bench. I’d need to see more from Byrnes still…
      Also don’t forget about new tigers duo Chris Knights and Ricky Petterd who could both push for this spot on your field too ;)

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