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Trade Talk Tuesday: With destROY #457

We are finally here and if you are reading this, you are more than likely in the top 8. If not, there is no shame in the bottom 8 “Tit-Ed” cup, well yes there is but hey, stick with it.

  • Roy

We are finally here and if you are reading this, you are more than likely in the top 8. If not, there is no shame in the bottom 8 “Tit-Ed” cup, well yes there is but hey, stick with it. I don’t know about you guys but I am really excited about the finals. This year I find myself in the same predicament as I was last year and unfortunately, I don’t think I have learned from my mistakes. What I mean by this is, last year I was involved in a top 4 encounter where I held my trades week 1 as I had a double chance and could burn them next week if I needed. I went down in week 1 only to be hit with complete carnage round 2 and got knocked out in straight sets despite my “plugging holes trade attempts” in round 2. The final 2 rounds I got all my players back and had 2 irrelevant top score rounds for our league that were worthless. So in summary, If I had gone for broke in round 1, I would have won the 2010 premiership.

My opponent is strong and I scraped over the line against them this week, heavily assisted by them holding Gary Ablett which would suggest they slightly have me on paper should he return. Also upon analysing I see that a few of his uniques are playing DT friendly teams which makes my decision to use 1 or even 2 of my remaining 3 trades very difficult. I have learned from last year that a double chance can’t be taken for granted and should be treated as a must win. Here is what I am looking at with instant improvement in mind, but long term needs to also be taken into account. Bear in mind, the only future bye concern is the Cats, but if I win this week, that won’t matter.

Adam Goodes: The big fella is following his usual trend of finishing the year like a steam train. In his last 2 games his possession rate is clearly up and the Swans need to keep winning in order to make finals. He is averaging 126 in his last 3 and will be eager to make up for his recent inaccuracy that cost his team the game. 2 of his next 4 games are Richmond and Brisbane which should produce whopping scores.
Possible trades to Goodes: Sylvia, Harper, Lobbe, all double trades so unlikely.

Sam Fisher: The Fish lined up in the middle for the majority of the match vs Freo and scored a nice 100 in doing so. His last 2 scores are 106 and 92 which makes him a bargain at the price of 315,400. He is the perfect candidate to round out a backline. Possible trades: Heppell (1 bye) Stanley (both straight) Otten, Puopolo, Jacobs, Hibberd, all double trades.

Ben McEvoy: The big ruckman is having a breakout year and has dropped below 90 just once in his last 10 games. He is still quite a unique pick and is capable of popping up for a big 1 which would piss your opponent off massively! Possible trades: Petrie (straight) Lobbe or Smith (Double). Smith is a tempting 1 here because it would allow me to cover Chapman or Stevie J in the forward line next week should I need it.
UPDATE: Bluey has said that Smith will likely be rested this week

Although it is highly unlikely I will trade this week (have not learnt my lesson), my faith in Lobbe or Smith to start on my ground in a final is low. Although Smith did score 100 against the Lions last game, watching him vs the Cats was enough to have me concerned.

Thats my thoughts, use this as a forum to discuss your position, what trades you are thinking and help each other out. REMEMBER: Avoid trading in anybody who has a bye to come, even if they are extremely tempting like Heath Scotland.

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    August 9, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Help please!
    Shiels, Griffen, Fyfe or Cross and why??
    Need advice, could be the difference of winning or losing this week.
    Cheers, Nooie

    • Billz


      August 9, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      Nooie!!! get on Shiels mate, i may be biast cause i have him, but hes got an easy run home and may be that unique edge that will get you over the line.

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      Albert Lloyd

      August 9, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      What’s the rest of your midfield?

      I’m guessing you can’t afford anything above 400K?

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        August 9, 2011 at 7:01 pm

        Swan, Pendles, Boyd, Hodge, Bartel, A Swallow…….Trading out Swallow, 7K in the kity

        Cheers for feedback

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          August 10, 2011 at 1:37 am


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    August 9, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Any further news on Zmith? Playing or not? If he’s not Im trading him to Hale… Thoughts?

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    August 9, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Gary Ablett in Doubt!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FMDT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      August 9, 2011 at 8:23 pm


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    August 9, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    mumford, luenburger, mcevoy or jolly? the only weak point my team has is that all important 2nd ruck, so i reckon its a trade well spent. My rucks at the moment are: cox, zsmith, lobbe and bailey. who out? and who in?

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    August 9, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    So I know it is bad trading out a premium but really cannot stand Bartel much anymore. So I am gonna trade him I only have one problem do I go Shiels or Scotty Thompson? I will have to get Scotty thompson next week if I decide I want him but he is so much more consistent and has a good enough run home to the gf.

    But then Shiels I can get this week and has a GREAT run to the finals barring Carlton. Who do I go?

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      August 9, 2011 at 7:32 pm

      get shiels, if you can get to the granny he will score massively against gold coast and get you over the line

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        August 9, 2011 at 7:43 pm

        Yeah cheers lad!

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      August 9, 2011 at 7:33 pm

      Yeh Im trading him next round since he has bye…
      I wan’t to go to Mitchell or shiels but Mitchell might be rested on GF … They are playing Gold coast…

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    August 9, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    What News on Higgins
    and Pav or ROK?

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    I-PRO DreamTeam

    August 9, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    who is the best mid fielder to get who is around 400,000

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      August 10, 2011 at 1:40 am

      Daisy/Thommo/Ablett (if named)

  8. POK


    August 9, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I have only 2,600 in the bank and two trades so don’t want to double trade. Have the same problem as most of you guys with Zac Smith resting this week. Of the players under 264,200 the best i think is Jamar. If he comes back he has West Coast, Richmond, Gold Coast and Port in the last 4. What do u guys think? :)

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    August 9, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Is Zmith definitly rested? Should I Trade him to Hale ?

    • Billz


      August 9, 2011 at 9:05 pm

      your not gonna trade till friday right? so teams will be out and you shall know :)

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    August 9, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    I’ve held Carrazzo throughout his longer than expected injury. Now, even if he returns this round he’s likely to be low on fitness and or be the sub (like Didak against Port). If I don’t play him I’m stuck with Puopolo on the field. Only have 1 trade left (120k) but do have the double chance in my league. Should I trade?

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      August 9, 2011 at 9:00 pm

      Do you have any Blues or Bombers players that will need replacing in week 3 & 4 of finals?

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        August 9, 2011 at 9:06 pm

        No, he’s the only blue (stupidly didnt get Gibbs) and Heppell is my only bomber, can cover him ok.

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          August 9, 2011 at 9:14 pm

          Have a look at your opponents side. 99% of dters are low on trades this time of year. If you think you have a good shot of winning without trading hang on. If likely to cop doughnut…then bite the bullet and trade.

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    The Juddernaut

    August 9, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Hey guys,

    What are your thoughts on these trades
    (4 left, 96k)

    Hibberd- Birchall/Martin/Adcock (Not sure on which one for my last defender spot)
    Current def: Goddard, Gibbs, Broughton, Enright, Suckling, Fisher,………….. (buckley, gilbert, tuohy)

    Mzungu to Green/Lecras (Zung’s travelling well, but may be pushed into a more defensive role when mundy comes back and both green and lecras have a very good run home). Especially green who in the big last two games play GC and Port.

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      August 9, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      What about Lids? Would leave forwards as are.

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        August 9, 2011 at 9:19 pm

        You will need to replace Gibbs for prelim or have good bench cover.

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    August 9, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Hard yards now, comes down to intuition and a fair bit of luck..for me, toss the coin..Mumford or McEvoy. Is now toss the coin and go for it for most of us I reckon…

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      August 10, 2011 at 12:10 am

      go mumford mate much better player and capable of better scores

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    August 9, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    i am fucked. 2 trades left after 2 stupid trades over the last 2 weeks and inly 1000 in the bank. if i dont get rid of smith i will cop a zero when he’s rested but the only decent ruckmen i cas straight swap to is Leuenberger :/ is it worth me making this trade at all….

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      August 9, 2011 at 10:07 pm

      you bet no tomorrow.

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    August 9, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Lads I would love your opinion on the perfect trades to make :) my best team is:

    I have 6 trades and 6 k cash

    Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Suckling, Birchall, Adcock, Stanley (Heppell, Hibberd, Talia)
    Swan, Pendlebury, Hodge, Mitchell, Monty, Boyd (Jacobs Bewick, Callinan)
    Cox, Petrie (Moran, Keefe)
    Franklin, Stevie J, Chapman, Goodes, Sylvia, Fyfe, Roo, (Mzungu, Tippet, C Richardson)

    I am thinking of going to avoid the ruck doughnut

    Petrie > Mcevoy/Leunberger
    Heppell > Fisher

    Can anyone think of a better way to spend my trades?

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    August 9, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    4 trades left, $30,700 in the bank.

    DEF: Gibbs* – Goddard – Deledio – Fisher – Adcock – Lower – Puopolo (Duigan* – B.Smith – Nicholson)

    MID: Pendles – Swan – Boyd – Judd* – Redden – Mitchell (Mzungu – Jacobs – Wallis)

    RUC: Cox – Sandilands (Z.Smith – Gawn)

    FWD: Fyfe – Pavlich – Chapman* – Franklin – Sylvia – N.Riewoldt – I.Smith (Knights – Prestia – Matera)

    * – Players with a Finals bye

    Im currently 5th on the ladder, my plan was to sideways trade my Finals bye players/Save for General Soreness but is there any trades I could do this week to ensure I get a win?

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      August 10, 2011 at 12:07 am

      Unless your up against a really good team save your trades for the later weeks, your looking pretty solid at the moment

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        August 10, 2011 at 12:21 am

        thanks Kyle

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    August 10, 2011 at 12:05 am

    I have a few concerns this week… Not sure whether i should keep swallow and petrie as i only have 4 trades left… also concerned about the likelyhood of ablett playing this week as my mids will need some serious fixing with ablett and swallow out… and also would it be smart to get rid of krakeuor at a great price… any thoughts on what i should do as i need a win this week if im a chance for the flag

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      August 10, 2011 at 12:22 am

      If Ablett is still out, trade Swallow

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        August 10, 2011 at 12:42 am

        cheers mate

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    August 10, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Hey guys im in a real pickle at the moment. i’ve got 3 trades left $220,000 sc and i need to take out heath shaw and jonathon brown. i know; i should have taken them out ages ago but the i would have been left with only 1 trade going into finals. im looking at getting Suckling and Goodes as well as getting Tom Rockclif for David Swallow. but being only allowed 2 trades this week i don’t know if should get rockliff or not this week cause his price might go up. What do u guys reckon?

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    August 10, 2011 at 12:22 am

    4 trades, $219,000 in the bank.

    DEF – Gibbs, Goddard, Deledio, Fisher, Adcock, Heppell, Puopolo (Hibberd, Jacobs, Toy)

    MID – Pendles, Swan, Murphy, Boyd, Ablett, Selwwod (Krak, I Smith, Andreoli)

    RUC – Cox, Petrie (Vardy, Keefe)

    FWD – Johnson, Goodes, Franklin, Pavlich, Silvia, Rioli, Riewolt (Mzungu, Callinan, Tippett)

    I am ranked 1st and 2nd in my leagues.

    I have 1 backline upgrade (Hibberd –> Suckling/Broughton/someone) and need to cover Petrie’s bye. I really wanna win week 1 so I can avoid week 2 and the Geelong bye.

    My initial plan was to do my backline upgrade and go Petrie straight swap to McEvoy. This will leave me with 2 trades and around $40k left for a sideways trade later. However, I am now thinking that it may be a good idea to keep petrie as an extra forward/backup ruck and upgrade Vardy instead. This will mean I have less money to spend on a ruck so I was looking at Ryder.

    By going with Ryder, I can swing Petrie into my forwards and then move Pav/Sylvia into my mids to cover Murphy in week 3. This will save me 1 trade and will allow me to sideways Heppell in week 4 if I make it to the GF.

    Is Ryder too risky a trade? He’s moved to the Half Back now hasnt he? should get more of the ball.

    1st time DT player so any help appreciated.

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      August 10, 2011 at 11:44 am

      Have a look at Jolly instead of Ryder. I know his been injured, but he is hitting some form.

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    August 10, 2011 at 12:42 am

    Hey lads! got an epl fantasy league going
    code is 1333735-299086
    feel free to join

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    brent grgic

    August 10, 2011 at 9:39 am

    What are everyone’s thoughts on Jolly as a ruck replacement? Slow start to the year but he seems to be hitting his straps now. Plus he probably won’t have a rest given he’s already missed a fair bit of footy this year.

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      August 10, 2011 at 11:29 am

      Been thinking the same thing. scored 99 two weeks in a row, so seems to be hitting form.

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    August 10, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    The Last spot in my team

    I did think it was finished a while ago but Knights turned out not to be a keeper and Dawes picked up an injury so I had to trade him for Callinan and Dawes for Pav.

    I have $332,900 and after unloading Jack Reiwoldt his BE is 50 which he will more than make this week but I need to win this weeks Final to get the week off for the Geelong Bye. Who can I get that is going to score well this week.

    I have
    Stevie J, Nat Fyfe, Chapman, Pavlich, Franklin, Reiwoldt, I. Smith, T Lynch and J. Howe.

    The only players I can think of to get are
    Sylvia, who is no longer really guaranteed a game each week
    Brennan who looks pretty inconstant and plays for Gold Coast
    Rioli ???
    Didak who I’d prefer to leave alone until at least next season.

    Who should I get

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      August 10, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      Goodes would be preferred, then Cloke (more likely to be rested although no talk on rest specifically aimed at him).

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    August 10, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    i have 1 trade left and 84,500 in the bank.
    thinking Sylvia to cloke… but can also trade to thompson in the middle, however this would make me leave out either hodge or bartel.
    or perhaps buckley to suckling? so question is probably, who’s going to be better value cloke or suckling?

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      August 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm

      Suckling has GC for GF. It depends on who will play instead of these guns. You need to work out what you expect those players to average vs what Cloke/Suckling will average and go for the most points.

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    August 11, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Hey guys,top 4 game in my main league,we only have 7 differnt players in best 22.

    ME HIM
    carazzo birchill
    gram fisher
    s.thompson gaj
    daisy judd
    dal santo boyd
    buddy cloke
    z.smith mcevoy

    If smith is rested i need vardy to play or get a donut.
    Toughts on if i can win,cheers.

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      August 11, 2011 at 8:41 am

      You really need a better ruck or some luck!

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    August 11, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    Hey guys,

    I finished 7th in my league and am playing a team I lost to by 20 pts a couple of games ago.

    I have 1 trade, $220,000

    My team is:

    Gibbs, Goddard, Deledio, Heppel, Suckling, Lower, Puopolo (Nicholson, Talia, Cripps)

    Pendelbury, Swan, Goodes, Ablett, Montagna, Cross (D. Swallow, Fasalo, Hibberd)

    Cox, Sandilands (Z. Smith, Campbell)

    Fyfe, Cloke, Pavlich, Franklin, Rioli, Mzungu, I. Smith (Didak, Petrie, Skinner)

    I want to trade Hibberd but my midfield is already complete, and I cant find a gun defender to use my last trade on.

    Any help would be appreciated.


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