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Trade Tawk: Round 6

Tony Tawk (aka magpies01) has emailed us an article about trading. This is about the time that we traditionally start looking at some big trades to set our teams up on the way to the end of the season.

Trades are gold. Ask any DT player, and they will tell you that trades make or break your team. Anyone can pick the guns in DT, but how you trade and change your team really defines a good player. But, nonetheless, trades are also a very large dilemma. When do you trade? Who do you trade? Who should you get? Well, here’s some help.

There are three types of trades in the DT world:

  • The upgrade trade– From a rookie/mid-priced to a premium
  • The sideways trade– From a rookie to a rookie, mid-priced to a mid-priced, or premium to a premium
  • The downgrade trade (also known as a cash trade) – From a premium/mid-priced to a rookie/mid-priced. (Done to save money for an upgrade trade)

But trades are influenced by an important thing – cash in the bank. You should always have +$30,000 in the bank. You don’t want to complete too many downgrade trades, as they are pretty much 2 trades for one premium, so you’re wasting a trade. This is why you need cash, and you need cash-cows. But this isn’t an article about cash-cows and rookies.

When do you trade?

The large dilemma with trades is when do you get rid of a player? When enough is enough and you don’t need shit scores in your team. If you have a premium that averages over 100, you wanna trade them after 3 consecutive rounds of below 70 scores. You might also wanna trade your premium if he is very inconsistent. If you have a mid-priced player that usually averages 70-80, you wanna trade them after 4 consecutive rounds of below 60 scores. If any player (premium, rookie, mid-priced), gets below 30 without getting injured or subbed, get rid of them soon. Below 30 is a disgrace and you don’t need that shit in your team. You should have more patience with a mid-priced or rookie than a premium, because you expect more from a premium. If you have rookie, don’t trade them until they start going down in price. As soon as they stop going up, upgrade them for a premium. Unless, of course, that rookie (or rookie-priced) is churning out shit scores like Andrew Krakouer.

So here are the guidelines


An Injury Trade

When a player gets injured, your first instinct is to trade them. Only trade an injured player if they’re out for more than 3 weeks. With injury trades, you usually wanna do a sideways trade or an upgrade trade. This way you can just get the trade out of the way without too much hassle.

On the Chopping Block – Round 5

It’s the time of the season when you realize players aren’t doing as well as you expected them to.

Who to get rid of-

Greg Broughton – Coaches who got this guy are kicking themselves now. Great season last year, but down on average so far. And a late exclusion this week gave coaches another reason to get rid of him.

Andrew Krakouer – It’s funny that the most picked DT player is probably the most hated now. Even though he got a good score of 96, his last 3 weeks have been below 50. And he got dropped this week. And when you get dropped from Collingwood, your gonna have to work hard to get back in…

Sam Gilbert – I don’t have this top-notch photographer, but he is a popular pick. His dual-position convinced people to pick him, and they made a mistake. After averaging 93 last year, his highest score to date is 79. His out of form and doesn’t look to be improving. Get rid of him.

Wait a few weeks on-

Andy Otten– Very popular pick this season due to his low price tag. But many coaches are thinking that they made a mistake. He got a nice score of 87, but has been very inconsistent. Wait a few weeks to see how he goes.

Nick Riewoldt – The superstar forward was once again a popular pick this season, but so far, he hasn’t regained his 2010 form. Much like St.Kilda, he has had a slow start. Even though his scores are still alright, we expect more from Saint Nick. Just hang on to him and watch his form.

Daniel Connors – What a year this guy had last year. And what an average year he’s having so far. Connors is a popular and unique pick, but has been getting some crap scores. He’s obviously shown his scoring potential and might just be having a slow start, so wait a few weeks.

Who to get in-

Nat Fyfe– Ahh, Avatar. Fyfe is having his break-out year. With some great scores of 117, 137 and 107 the past 3 weeks, everyone’s noticed this kid. Future star for Fremantle and a gun DT’er. And he’s also dual-position.

Andrew Embley – Boy does this guy slip under the radar. Not mentioned a lot in the pre-season and is very underrated. He came out this season and pumped out scores of 115 and 155. If your trading someone out, jump on this guy.
Who saved themselves- (These are the players you were gonna trade but got you a great score)

Paul Duffield – I was a mouse-click away from getting rid of this guy. I stuck with him for one more week, and it was a good move. He got me a nice score of 93 and showed us he can play good footy. For now Duffman, you’re safe.

Darren Jolly – Like last year, he had a slow start. He got some average scores and with an injury, he had those who picked him scratching their heads. And then he came out and played to his best against the Bombers on ANZAC day, giving us a nice score of 100. Keep him in.

Chris Knights – Very popular pick this year. He is a proven DT star and a great player. To open the season, he got some average scores of 70 and 76. We were wondering what to do with him, but the past 2 weeks showed us his scoring potential with scores of 90 and 87. Knights is out of harm’s way.

And remember – DON’T trade before Friday. I once did it and everyone on the website wanted to shoot me.

By Tony Tawk (aka magpies01)

DT Talk - covering AFL Fantasy and other games since 2007.



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    April 27, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    i am thinking of going petrie to sandi after his bye this week, i know i might possibly miss a bit of a petrie price rise but sandi is pretty cheap at the moment,

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    April 27, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Ranked 2,129 and got 2147 last week even with Richo’s 14! quite pleased!

    Team Gabor:

    DEF: Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio, Grimes, Adcock, Heppell, Duigan (Lower, Stanley, McKernan)

    MID: Swan, Boyd, Montagna, A Swallow, Boak, Curnow (D Swallow, Harris, Bewick)

    RUCKS: Cox, Petrie (Z Smith, McCauley)

    FOR: Franklin, S Johnson, N Riewoldt, Higgins, Knights, Krakeour, Darling (Richardson, Matera, Prestia)

    – Thinking of going Duigan to Hibberd/Ben Jacobs then…Krakeour to Jack Riewoldt this week
    – i have 22 trades left…and $7100 in the bank

    Duigans B/E is 26 so ill miss out on a bit of cash but not too much.

    advice much appreciated cheers everyone!!!!

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      Good job on your scores so far :)

      Personally i’d do that trade,
      unless they rest Heppell

      Good Luck :D

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        April 27, 2011 at 9:22 pm

        cheers mate!! was only worried about not getting full cash potential out of duigan but atleast ill get jack instead of krak!..yeh might hold onto heppell wont want to trade him too early as he might end up at a premium price soon!

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    April 27, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    im looking at trading bruce to adcock, i am totaly against sidways trading premiums however after watching both these guys play on the we, bruce was SHIT didn’t even look like he wanted the ball and adcock was awesome !! I didn’t get adock from the start because i didn’t really know anything about him other than he had 1 good 90+ ave year and i didn’t get him last week cos bruce scored 100 and i thought he had come good.. however at 330 adcock is still cheap for his ave and bruce is only 20 k less and averaging like 30 or 40 less.. doing the trade will also be good because 1. will miss bruces bye so can sit otten on the pine will gain me probably 50 points 2. adcock has an awesome draw 2 games v suns, roos and tigers and has already had his bye.. and most importanly would be able to stop saying fuck sake bruce go for the ball and bloody hell adcock stop carving up !! and i will finally be able to sleep at night again !!!!!!!

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      April 27, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      Maguire and Drummond back this week could affect adcocks scoring potential.

      So watch possibly and if his scoring looks down trade in someone like Enright next week since he has his bye this week.

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    April 27, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Is Anthony to Fyfe a sideways trade? Seriously considering it though.

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      April 27, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      i know it screws with ya head cos fyfe and adcock have already gone up so much but they are scoring so well.. picking them up now u kinda feel ripped of cos u could have had them for 270/280.. but i think the way they are playing atm they will definately be top 7 premiums by the end of the year still..

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        April 27, 2011 at 9:33 pm

        Whats wrong with getting players just because they have had a price rise? I think people worry too much about the bottom line then form. Surely form is THE most important thing? Fyfe, Adcock, Redden etc are on fire! Jump on!

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    April 27, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Don’t trade mid pricer to mid pricer especially when you can have fyfe in forward line.

    Unless you have prestia or likewise in fwd line and can swap them.

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    April 27, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    I had a detailed question 2 actually earlier but recieved no advice so I’ll make it a simple interesting qestion…

    If you have Krakoeur in your midfield and $300K in your bank and your midfield premiums are Boyd, Montagna, Swan, Pendles

    Which premium do you trade in for the Krak???

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      I would have gone bartel or mitchell,
      but both are having byes this round.

      If you wanted someone semi-unique maybe embley?
      (being a WCE supporter myself :) )

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm

      An elite premo:
      – Mitchell
      – Jelwood
      – Murphy
      – Watson

      A unique elite premo:
      – Embley
      – Mundy
      – Redden
      – Rockliff

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        April 27, 2011 at 7:49 pm

        hawks and cats all good advice i dont mind trading to a player with a bye as its for the long term anyway and league games start again round 7 anyway, thanks for the tips i am leaning towards mitchel or selwood/bartel, there are a lot of high performing midfielders i am looking at also that im not sure if i can trust for consistancy, i.e embley, martin, redden? tough choice..

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    April 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    so here’s what i plan to do,

    C.Bruce to someone $263,100 or under (Heppell?)


    Krak to JRoo.

    Sound good?
    and should the trade be for Heppell or someone else like Merrett?

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      April 27, 2011 at 8:34 pm

      What, u haven’t got Heppel???
      ‘Nuff said

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    J pod

    April 27, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    not merret

    Thoughts on trading Krak for embley or watson. what are everyone’s thoughts???

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      I like embley,
      seeing as they’ve already had their bye,

      and also depends how many players you got from each team,
      most likely to have less WCE players so again go for embley,
      Just my thoughts :D

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      And if you do pick up Embley, don’t forget the VC loophole with the partial lockout tomorrow. ;-)

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    April 27, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Tough one here guys. Keep Rawlings or sideways trade for addcock? or Upgrade stanley/otten to addcock

    racking my brain on this!

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      April 27, 2011 at 7:51 pm

      addcock is going great very great so is suckling for hawks , question has browns absence lifted addcocks performance in his role of acting skipper and will he drop off with browns return and leadership?

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        April 27, 2011 at 8:13 pm

        yes true but it seems as tho he’s running well and able to pump out some large scores… hmmm

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        April 27, 2011 at 8:59 pm

        same dilemma…
        deledio to adcock???

        just dumped yarran for knights and lloking at hurley to fyfe after his bye

        approx 175K in the bank

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          April 27, 2011 at 9:41 pm

          Are you a Essendon supporter as your name suggests?

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            April 28, 2011 at 7:50 pm


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    April 27, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    bruce out adcock in
    didak out fyfe in

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    Donalds Ducks

    April 27, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    So who should I trade for Krakouer with $91,900 in the bank?

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      April 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      thats around 260k tough price bracket, i’d downgrade to a rookie/cheapy still with value to gain… midfield or forward?

      mid – lib / curnow / swallow / harris

      fwd – darling / mckernan / tapscot / prestia / matera

      or wait till u can afford a 300k plus trade

      Wait for other advice i am not sure on this one ducks :)

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      April 27, 2011 at 10:55 pm

      I would go to Jack Riewoldt as he is very cheap and is coming up against some easier opponents…

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    April 27, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    I really wanna dump Hurley, if he was playing anyone else bar GC I would dump him. All the potential but unfortunately that doesn’t mean good DT scores.

    How bout Bewick? Hold or fold?

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      April 27, 2011 at 9:06 pm

      keep hurley for another week against GC then go for it (i am) I agree on the comment good player bbut not for DT
      bewick injury is being assessed…

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    April 27, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Who should I dump Kraks for out of Redden, Fyfe (can maintain M/F link), Embley?

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    Donalds Ducks

    April 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @Colliwobblers. I already have your midfield picks but only Darling, Prestia and Matera in the forward line. I can trade Krakouer as a forward but a midfielder would be much more convenient. Any other cheap midfielders recommended?

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      April 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm

      ok some interesting choices here: you have krak 171K and 91k = 262k so it depends on whether you trade for a cash cow to make money for future trade or if you trade for a keeper, but here are a few options.

      crameri 253K 112 last round break even 30 avg 78
      gysberts 203K avg 85 be -12 named in tomorrow nights side
      polec 144K avg 75 but only 2 games played be -37
      ibbotson 244K 70 avg but 144 last week, bye this week 51 be / also from freo vanberlo scored 90 so his be is only 2 but avg 59 and cost 203K
      pittard 209K 69avg -1 be already gone up over 100k tho
      conca 184K – bit up and down but 70 last round makes his be -13 , avg 58

      hope this helps

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    Donalds Ducks

    April 27, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Ta mate.

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    April 27, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Broughton gone… man that feels good!

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    April 27, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    $10,000 short of going Broughton to Enright so not sure if I should trade him to Adcock this week or hope Enright (BE of 94) falls into reach after the bye. Thoughts?

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      April 29, 2011 at 2:05 am

      Jump on Adcock, lets all hope its his year!

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    April 27, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Im just short upgrading a dud forward to a smokey and a rook back to Adcock.

    Seriously how much longer can he punch out 100s, really annoying he has been just out of my grasp every week.

    • Billz


      April 27, 2011 at 11:52 pm

      Those hundreds could dip to 80s now with the inclusion of drummond, hes the man the lions will look to for the dash of half back for brissy due to his efficient ball usage.

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    April 28, 2011 at 12:38 am

    what should I do with Bruce? He is a dud, has a bye this week and is generally pissing me off right now. I can upgrade/downgrade to anyone except Lake who is doing shit anyway…

    I also have Krakouer, and since I have 94k in the bank I can do a straight swap to Riewoldt.

    Any ideas appreciated. :)

    • Billz


      April 28, 2011 at 9:31 am

      I got rid of Bruce for Rawlings 2 weeks ago, has had a bye already which is a plus and is someone who i doubt will be given the vest at any stage due to norths young list needing the older bloked out on the field, Plus hes unique! although there are better options like gram, grimes, Enright

      • Billz


        April 28, 2011 at 9:37 am


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    April 28, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Hi all,
    my big question is-
    What do I do with Brad Green? he had an ok 80 odd last week but he is dropping in price and I could almost get a straight swap for Fyfe this week? Do I stick with him or bail?


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    April 28, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    hey guys the only way i can go boak > watson is to go richo > someone under 82,000

    i’m thinking callinan but has anyone heard of a fwd priced at 82,000 or under who has a big potential?

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    April 28, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    i can trade cam richardsen for jack riewoldt in forwards and still have money to trade kraks for premo midfielder,

    but??? is jacky a keeper because i am only trading now to keepers please advise or should i hold out for a better forward my forward line at moment is

    didak, sylvia, N riewoldt, franklin, darling, matera, prestia, mckernan and petrie (DPP with Hale in ruck)

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    April 29, 2011 at 2:03 am

    Great acticle! I’ve decided, Im doing it – Krak to J-Volt (Dare I say, Ive done it I just wont ahve time tomorrow!)

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    April 29, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Seeking a bit of input…
    Have $287 in the bank and was always trading Krakouer for J voldt this week…but also have Warnock in the ruck and am thinking slight downgrade to Petrie before his price jumps again. Other rucks are Cox and Smith, and Ayce Cordy (who??) who I was contemplating getting rid of for McCauley instead of the Petrie trade…..


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