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DT Dreaming with The Cuz: Pre-season 2011

Leigh, the mastermind behind the UNITED WE STAND charity… better known as Cousin’s Coke N Ice around here, has a bit of a theory on not selecting ANY Gold Coast players. Does it have any merit? Read on!

For a lot of the folk out there in DT land, you may remember me from some of my humorous (if not rambling) rants about all things DT last year. If you do remember me… hello again, and if you’re new to DT Talk this year, welcome, and please be kind! Well, after a nice long break and a renewed enthusiasm for all things Dream Team after a disastrous finish to my DT Season in 2010 (Thanks in part to a whooping I copped from Calvin in one of the finals), I’m back baby… and back in a big way!

Before I digress about all things DT, I’ll just throw out a special mention to my boys Warnie and Calvin. I got in contact during the flood devastation happening throughout QLD and VIC with the boys about a fundraiser I was putting together to raise funds for the victims. We put on a 20/20 Cricket match and Concert for Australia day that turned out to be an overwhelming success raising just over $13,000 on the day.

Early in the piece, the boys were more than happy to advertise the event, which came in handy as another follower of DT Talk saw it and offered up his services to create a website for the event (Thanks Irish!). You can check out his handy work at

It came to 2 days before the event and I rang Warnie to give him an update on where we were at, and offered him a place playing cricket with us on the day (I’m in Melbourne by the way). Not only did he tell me he would get back to me within an hour, he got back to me and advised me that not only he was coming, but he was bringing Calvin for the day. Roy was unavailable as he was enjoying his honeymoon, but he got in contact saying he wished he was coming as well! The boys flew over on the morning of the game and flew home the same afternoon, donated some stubbie holders and a Prospectus (signed by them!) and they did this all of their own back.

Turns out Warnie does actually bowl leg spin and finished with 6 wickets on the day! Calvin was pretty handy with the bat also! Not sure who finished with more bragging rights (calvin outscored warnie who managed to lose his wicket a few times in a changed format for 20/20), but one thing is for sure, they had a bloody good time of it! Thanks again boys, I seriously appreciate all of your efforts!

Now all the fluffy stuff is out of the way, it’s onto my Dream team for season 2011.

Ill keep this part short as I know a lot of you out there get sick of reading by this stage of any article submitted, but I am running a different philosophy to many I have seen running in the forums.

Its ground breaking, Earth Shattering, impressive and it is patented, so none of you are allowed to copy!

With the inclusion of Gold Coast this year and them having the bye in round 1, I have made an executive decision to do the unthinkable. NO GOLD COAST PLAYERS!

You read right, Cousins Coke n Ice will not have Gazza, does not (or should I say will not have) Swallow, No Matera, No Daniel Harris, No Josh Toy, No Campbell Brown, NOT 1 GC SUN!

Why is this you may ask? I could turn around tell you to mind your own business, but in the interests of telling you here first, and holding bragging rights after I have won the car, Here it is.

There will be no price rise from any GC players until round 5. In this time, some of my rookies will receive a price rise, and I will have a better idea of who from the Gold Coast are going to be better pick ups before their price increases. Make some early cash and lock in the GC Gold (Sounds like a beer….back to the Patent office!)

So there it is. It’s a pretty simple philosophy when you think about it. You could argue that you can do the same with all of the teams who have byes in the first 3 rounds, but being we have not really seen the Suns in the thick of real football yet, I think this one is a winner! (Thanks Charlie Sheen)

Obviously you need to get your mix right with premiums V rookies etc to really have a chance for the big bucks as well as have a strategy that works for you, but I’m not going to go into who to select in these positions, I’m waiting for other experts to tell me who to pick! (Trust me, I’m not claiming to be an expert by any stretch, follow my lead at your peril!!)

Enjoy the rest of the NAB cup people, may your kicks be goals on the pre season. Look forward to some more insights from Charlie Sheens biggest fan in the not to distant future!


Cousins Coke n Ice
@douthteez on Twitter.



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    The Riz

    March 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Interesting. But I think I’ll pass.

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      March 3, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      Not even interesting, just plain stupid – it’s like ur trying to be all cool and go against the crowd, an article for the sake of an article.


      p.s. not too sure if maybe this article is meant to be a joke or not??

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        Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

        March 3, 2011 at 6:52 pm

        Wait for it………..WHACK! You cut me deep shrek! Hahahaha!

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          March 3, 2011 at 7:48 pm

          haha sorry mate, looking back it was a little harsh, i actually had a valid arguement going against what you said, but it got deleted so i just went for the jugular haha.

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            Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

            March 3, 2011 at 8:12 pm

            All good bud! When penning this little ditty I was expecting it!

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        Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

        March 3, 2011 at 7:45 pm

        Whilst your having a stab champ, how bout a massive thumbs up for the effort the DT boys made for coming over to Melbourne to help raise cash for the flood victims! One of the reasons I put this article together was to give them some kudos for a great effort!

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          March 3, 2011 at 8:15 pm

          Oh indeed, huge effort by the boys for sure, good to see the lads know there is more to life than Dream Team (perhaps advice i should be taking hmm?)

          A site like this is a great forum to have to garner greater interest for events such as this and it seems DT TALK was a big part of making that day a success.

          I’m part of the crowd shaving their heads for Shave for a Cure so i’m also very much in to the charity scene, fun & games all for a good cause.

          …i still don’t agree with the no GC thing :)

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            Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

            March 3, 2011 at 9:00 pm

            Good luck with the shave mate, great cause, whack up in the comments where you can donate for it for you and maybe you will raise some more cash!

            I still think no GC ( with the exception of harris possibly) could still work ;-)

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    March 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Great write up Cuz.
    But no Gold Coast players???? Hmmm… Well…. I have got to say I disagree..
    Well done Warnie and Vin on the 20/20 match!
    Six wickets is very impressive Warne Dawg, maybe we wanted the wrong Warnie to take on the Poms last summer?? ;)
    I am now following you on Twitter Cuz. Again good write up :)

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    March 3, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    only problem your rooks will have only gone up 40 grand and u will need to make 6 – 9 trades

  4. Warnie


    March 3, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    There will be no stopping me from having my 8 Gold Coast players!

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    March 3, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    You’re a great bloke leigh but will not take the advice of having NO SUNS in my team :D

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    March 3, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    leigh’s just taking the piss out of all of us, good for a laugh, but not for DT strategy. My 6 GC players at this stage (maybe more) are going no where.

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    March 3, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I have discussed this often with friends who know their DT and are not prone to grandstanding.
    Main problem is that pre-r4, you can only make 2 trades, so unless you want to pick up a GC rookie post a price rise, you can only really end up with 2 on your bench.

    A lot of the mature-age GC recruits are backs, so trying to pick a GC rookie back is risky. Probably best to leave them alone here, with the possible exception of Stanley, who looks like he will be playing forward anyway.

    In the mids you have 2 must-haves in Swallow and Harris, who look like they will be startable early in the season.

    In the forwards it looks like Matera is a must-have, with Prestia not far behind.

    GL with your ill-conceived theory, as your team value falls behind that of most astute DTers.

    Warnie you may be ODing with 8 GC rookies, but you do know your DT.

    • Warnie


      March 3, 2011 at 7:25 pm

      To be honest… realistically I reckon I will have 7:

      DEF: Stanley and Coad/Toy.
      MID: Harris and Swallow
      RUC: Smith
      FWD: Matera and Prestia

      Prestia could be used in the mids. Still 20 days to go! ;)

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        March 3, 2011 at 8:04 pm

        I reckon everyone will have a mad remodel of the backline on the Friday of ROund 1. If players like Puopolo, Pedersen and Duigan are named I think most of us will rethink Toy/Coad for our initial squad due to the Round 1 bye.

        Barring Swallow (due to his price tag), the rest of the GC players Warnie has named will be in every team with a few odd exceptions (and I do mean ODD).

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        March 3, 2011 at 9:32 pm

        Yep 7

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    March 3, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Hey Leigh,

    surely by the time all the rookies are ready to cash in, any team with a bye in the first 7 to 10 rounds would be in the same position as all the GC rookies you are leaving out …

    since you are in my league I will be interested to see if you actually do this or whether you are just tugging our chains :)

    • Warnie


      March 3, 2011 at 7:23 pm

      I hope he goes for it!! ;)

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        Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

        March 3, 2011 at 7:41 pm

        Long time till the first bounce boys, but quietly, I’m uber confident that I will only have 1 maximum! Harris is on the radar, but the rest I really think I’m gonna wait to see how they look when the real stuff takes off, not nab cup crap! God knows in the last 2 years I’ve been sucked in by nab cup form!

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          March 3, 2011 at 8:01 pm

          I got to say I took one look at this and wtf’d. A hell of a lot of the dream team talent this year is in the form of sunlight. Sure, if you put in 6 suns, you might miss your hit with one or two, and have to trade in others, but with this strategy you limit yourself to how many suns cash cows you can pick up, as well as being forced to triple trade per position for upgrades. Essentially you only make what, 30-40k or so off one trade, and that’s seriously undervaluing a trade imo.

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      March 3, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      yeah its nice of u to give us a heads up bout ur team.

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    March 3, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    OK…………………………………………… :S

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      March 3, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      I’m with this guy ^^

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    March 3, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    DT talk has been accused of selling out to the AFL and letting f**kwits like this post does nothing to enhance their credibility.

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      March 3, 2011 at 8:21 pm

      Mate that’s bullshit, as Warnie has stated previously after 5 years of hard work and nothing in return they finally get some recognition and reward- it’s not like they have closed down this site!!!

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        Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

        March 3, 2011 at 8:57 pm

        You way have miss read him brappin, he said that DT Talk has been accused of selling out, he didn’t actually say he thinks they have sold out. As for the f wits remark, It just goes to show what some people use as their name on here is not even close to what they are really like. Maybe he should drop the cl and the ist and just leave ass, cause I’m tipping most people who read his comment will believe that this is the case. He only hurts own creditability with comments like that. Not that they need it, but good work sticking up for the boys on this one Brap!

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          March 3, 2011 at 11:32 pm

          Agree 1000% with your comments (about classist, not GC!!!) I’m in your league so i too will be interested to see if you’ve changed your mind come round 1. Heard you on SEN, great work in organising the fundraiser…still be gunning to beat you though. :)

    • Warnie


      March 3, 2011 at 8:36 pm

      There’s still 20 days until lockout. The fan articles (which quite a few have been awesome) have helped keep the site ticking over. We could post nothing… or use these to keep articles popping up and some discussion points!

      Don’t worry! There is still lots to come from us. If you want more, get the DT Assistant Coach!

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      March 3, 2011 at 9:23 pm

      Dont call him a f**kwit mate he’s just giving his idea, and its not 2 bad either. As for the boys selling out…… It does suck a little (loosing chop!)

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      Big Lance

      March 3, 2011 at 10:55 pm

      I admit some of the fan articles have been suspect but some have been very good, and they all create some discussion which is what it’s all about. Even if you don’t agree with something it still gives you something to think about.

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      March 4, 2011 at 11:11 am

      If you don’t like it, then don’t read it. You add nothing posting comments like that, Classist.

      Open your wallet and get the DT Assistant Coach if you’re not happy about what is on here.

      As for the f**kwit remark, I hardly think you can call a guy who raised $13k for charity a f**kwit. Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box; I doubt he will pull it off, but it’s good to see fresh ideas.

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    Fatty McButterpants

    March 3, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Cuz, if u have not GC players, who are the rookies u plan to start with? You need a min of 11 for the bench, but I reckon most teams will have about 14-15.

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      March 3, 2011 at 8:38 pm

      Good Q, i’m really struggling with rookies outside of GC, only one’s i like are Mzugu and Heppell…

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      Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

      March 3, 2011 at 8:46 pm

      Bench looks like this

      Back line
      Hibberd (ess)
      Gutherie (gee)
      Puopolo (haw)

      Conca (rich)
      Wallis (WBD)
      Callinan (Adel)

      Hale (haw)
      Derickx (rich)

      McKernan (Adel)
      Mzungu ( freo)
      I. Smith (haw)

      Starting on the ground will be Cam Richardson, Andy often (cheap) and Robbie tarrant. Still a long way out till the season starts so changes will be made, but itnshows you don’t need GC early on!

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        Fatty McButterpants

        March 3, 2011 at 9:27 pm

        I don’t think anyone there has more job security than Harris, Swallow, Smith and Matera except Otten, and a few of them will not be big point scorers if they do get games, but it shows it can be done. Good luck.

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          Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

          March 3, 2011 at 9:34 pm

          Polec from brassy will have a lot uf security me thinks also, and gaff from west coast could be a ball magnet also! So many possibilities, and it is not like I won’t be getting GC players in before their prices rise anyway!

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            March 4, 2011 at 12:19 am

            Yeah, but Polec is in a stinker of a team as well. Will struggle with support IMO. Same as Gaff, but I rate WC mids better then Brisbanes.

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          March 4, 2011 at 10:38 am

          I would agree especially with Gutherie and Wallis, playing in a top 4 team I doubt they will both start, I didn’t see Heppell or Duigian in the backline either in the forward no Kraks not a rookie but cheaper than Knights.

          Congrats on the fund raising well done.

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        March 4, 2011 at 12:21 am

        Also you have three bench players (McKernen, Wallis, Gutherie) who prob wont even play round 1, and Callinan is still on the rookie list. Very risky when even blind freddy knows that Swallow, Harris, Prestia, Matera WILL play round 2 (barring injury of course)

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          Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)

          March 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

          That’s currently on my bench mate, it will change I’m sure once we have an idea of what round 1 teams look like!

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    jim cowski

    March 3, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    thinking outside of the box-could be very rewarding, could be disastrous.

    congrats to warnie for taking 6 wickets. reminds me of one ex aussie cricketer.

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      March 5, 2011 at 8:39 pm

      Tim May???

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    Drew Martin

    March 3, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Hey Leigh

    Well done on thanking the boys for there time and effort with the cricket match, but let’s give credit where its due.

    Well done to you mate for getting out and doing something great that benefits the flood victims. You deserve a big thank you from all for that.

    As for some of the other comment above – there appears to be a belief that unless you have a truck load of GC rookies you will be severely handicapped. Yes, granted, the GC will produce more overall dollars on average, but who is to say that this seasons “Michael Barlow” is even in that group. There will be plenty of other rookie priced players who will earn you a tidy sum without having a GC on their jumper.

    Yes, I do have several myself – but there are plenty of others as well that are still on the radar.

    Once again – well done Leigh on having the balls to follow your beliefs – whether they be in the real or fantasy world

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    March 3, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Cuz, congrats with what was obviously an extremely successful fundraiser.
    Good luck with this strategy, it’s very “outside the square,” but if you have luck with the rookies you’ve chosen, all should be fine. (I’m looking at 4-5 Suns.)
    I do understand why people might think you’re “Josh’ing & “Toy”ing around with us!!! (-;

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    Kansas City Mac

    March 3, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I’m putting only one GC rook in the midfield to establish an edge over the five other guys in my league who have pretty much identical teams with 7-8 GC rooks (we confide in each other). I suggest load up on GC rooks in Def and Fwd, then you have capacity ($) to smash out five gun Mids with only one rookie starter in Midfield, eg Harris. I can’t wait to play a team in the first three rounds before the multiple bye where I’m up against three starting rookie Mids.

    My Mids currently are:
    Swan, Boyd, Monty, Selwood, Murphy, Harris

    Got plenty of guns in Def Fwd still, just more rooks.

    Seen plenty of teams that only have three gun Mids, with too many starting rookie Mids. A League win = starting more Fwd rookies on the ground because the differential is less between them and the Fwd guns, esp with high scoring starters like Richardson, Mzungu, Krakouer, Matera and Prestia.

    Anyway, that’s all I’ve got for a ‘different’ strategy this year, a year in which it seems we’ve all got the same bloody thought processes.

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      March 4, 2011 at 12:17 am

      Yeah, but history has shown the best cash cows are the midfield ones. And with the MR being tweaked, most of the guns value will drop by round 7, even if they maintain their ave. from last year. You could be left wanting by that stage…

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    March 3, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    A team without the GC….it would be like a day without sun(s)….

    Oh that was really bad!

    • Calvin


      March 4, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      ha ha – yeah wasn’t good

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    March 4, 2011 at 5:11 am

    I think that this idea is pretty crap as if you choose the rookies who you think are going to be stars NOT from GC will not peak their price til later down the track if they are going to be good. Therefore you are wasting trades and losing a potential $$$ windfall from your rookie that will keep going up in price if he continues to fire. What were you thinking???? More pain 4 u this year by the look of things :D

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    March 4, 2011 at 5:55 am

    Cuz you’ve copped a lot of flak, but I on the one hand think you might be onto something. While I will not go completely without GC players from the start, I might actually consider leaving out one or two that I was going to go with.

    As you say, I can get rooks straight up that may rise in price rnd 4, of which two I can trade in after that round (so getting their initial price rise) for two GC players that will rise in price in Rnd 5 (and beyond).

    Yeah it uses two trades and the two initial rooks prices wont have peaked, but it gets a couple extra price rises that you would have otherwise missed. Not to mention it avoids the risk that you take that those two GC players you leave out don’t actually play in rnd 2 of the season.

    And of course, you dont NEED to do the strategy…if those two rookies are super gunning it that they going to keep soaring…well just keep them.

    So a partial thumbs up from me…though yeah I reckon you’re a bit nuts if you go completely cold turkey without GC players.

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    March 4, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Ummmm ok…good luck with that…….Campbell Brown by the way – not a gun!

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    March 4, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Who am i to make comment on postings?? BUT, I think this is the most ridiculous post we have had all year.
    BTY – you don’t have till round 5 to include GC players before their prices will go up. you would have to include them after round 3 in which time your first picked subs have only had one price increase.
    So you are using 5-6 trades for the sake of maybe $200K profit. I value my trades a lot more than that!!!!

  22. Calvin


    March 4, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Cuz Cuz Cuz… firstly… thanks for the kind words, but I think you have gone mad.
    I have always thought of you as a smart man and a man with common sense.
    I was wrong, you have gone crazy!
    You can run one hell of a fundraiser and swing the willow very well yourself, but I think you’re in for one long DT season… oh and I’m glad you are in the DT TALK CA$H league too if you are trying things like this…ha ha

    Check yourself into DT Rehab boss

    P.S – if this bites me in the arse and you are right. I will be deleting this comment so you can not reference it later on in the season!!! :)

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      March 4, 2011 at 4:19 pm

      Cuz hurry up and save this HTML file with this comment…just in case!

  23. Calvin


    March 4, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    New name for your team: Cuz on Coke and Ice

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    March 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    That actually makes alot of sense… if you had unlimited trades lol it would definately work. I recommend trying to save up trades through the first 5 rounds at least… just use them on Injuries. Every player has an off game (Swan and Goddard the exception). I’ve learnt my lesson from last year… A player had a crap game so I traded him out and then 2 weeks later bit me in the ass with a couple 100 scores haha.

    Save your trades… try to pick as many consistent players as possible. Id rather have a team of players averaging 90 every week than a bunch of streaky fellas scoring 100 every 5th week and 70s every other.

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    March 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    You are partly on the right track Cuz although I think it is silly to totally avoid GC players. Gotta be careful about blindly ignoring potential rookies in other positions because the ‘Sun(s)’ is in our eyes.

    For example while Coad/Toy/Stanley/Magin/Tape are all in contention in the back line we also don’t want to miss the boat on a Lisle, Duigan, Grimes (Dylan), Markovic, Smith (Brodie), McKernan, Puopolo, Lower (although by all reports absolutely butchers it), Pederson, Jacobs (who was highly rated before the glandular fever).

    And while Harris and Swallow look like good picks Swallow hasn’t shown much value for money yet and while he is the ‘Golden’ boy we need to make sure that the next Barlow isn’t out there waiting. Players like Duryea, Houlihan (if he gets elevated and looks like getting games), Liberatore, Smith (Alistair), Conca, Contin, Pittard, Atley, Twomey, Beams, Polec, Callinan all have great potential as well.

    And while Matera and Prestia are looking the goods there are a couple of other smokies in the fwds as well such as Michie, Talia, Tapscott (if he can get a game), Johnston, Darling and Wheedon.

    Just need to remember to keep an open mind and not jump on the GC Bandwagon too early. They will likely give plenty of guys on their list a go this year and it is more than ever important that our bench players are playing so consider guys with better job security potentially as well.

    • Calvin


      March 4, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      I totally agree with this mega.
      Duigan (for example) had 90+ for Carlton the other day, but if that was a GC dude, we’d be like… “OH YEAH LOCK” – some dudes are getting a cruisey run thought for being in the GC gang.
      Works the other way too… A lot of hype around Heppell, but he hasn’t had the scores that some other rookies and the GC rookies have had… “Hyped” up players are getting a cruisey run through. Heppel is a gun though, and is prob a bad example, but you get my point as well.
      Good point brother

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    March 4, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Cuz, write down the following line on your IPad 1000 times:

    “I mustn’t drink when filling out my DreamTeam”

    Good try fella but I think you will be carved up this year just like 2010.

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