Jeppa’s Juniors – Round 8

Round 8 was a much-needed morale boost for many coaches including myself. I registered my highest AFL Fantasy score for the year with 2203 but Buddy, Cripps and Captain Heppell let me down in Dreamteam giving me 2098 which is still respectable but I aim high. My focus now is solely on the upcoming bye rounds and ensuring I have all bases covered.

On to the rookies or lack thereof. Only 6 two-gamers and 2 one-gamers suited up in Round 8 which is not ideal as the bye rounds near. Most coaches will think they are sitting pretty at the moment but don’t discount the potential omissions, injuries and suspension over the next few weeks. My advice is to be patient and sacrifice the ‘must haves’ to ensure a well balanced team. Above all, play it safe with your rooks…play the odds!

 

Three Gamers vandersss

KEEPERS

Fantasy aside, you’ve got to love the way Aaron Vandenberg (Fwd/Mid. $369,000, 37 be AF. Mid. $356,100, 32 be DT) goes about it. The Dees mature age recruit is a bull when it comes to the contested ball and against the Dogs he finished with 29 possessions (7 clearances), 4 marks, 11 tackles and a handy 128 Fantasy points. The biggest thing for me regarding Vandenberg last weekend was his role. Instead of playing predominately at half forward, he was used on ball! Keep him at F6 as a result.

Key forwards Jesse Hogan, 103 (Fwd. $356,000, 30 be AF. $332,300, 13 be DT) and Cameron McCarthy, 80 (Fwd. $325,000, 39 be AF. $314,000, 11 be DT) have continued their great start to the season. We all love how Hogan attacks the ball and he’s playing with plenty of confidence. No Trengrove for Port will definitely aid his output this week and he could very well score back-to-back tons. I’m jealous of how clean McCarthy is with his hands and against a young Bulldogs backline on Saturday I’m expecting another decent Fantasy score. I give you permission to start either Hogan or McCarthy on the field this week.

West Coast pair Liam Duggan (Mid. $274,000, 10 be AF. $265,900, 11 be DT) and Fraser McInnes (Fwd. $225,000, -7 be AF. $215,200, -46 be DT) are flying high. As an Eagles fan, it’s refreshing to see a youngster like Duggan deliver the ball inside 50, lace out, repeatedly. There aren’t any job security concerns for Duggan after racking up 23 possessions, 6 marks, 4 tackles and 99 Fantasy points but he’s too expensive to bring in if you don’t own him already. As for McInnes, well he’s surprised me but note that he’s only played well against the lessor teams in the Suns and the Saints. Previous scores of 22 & 26 this season should not be discounted but his 79 in Round 8 and current breakevens are hard to ignore this week and at F8 he is low risk. Not for me.

Collingwood and Adam Oxley, 91 (Def. $377,000, 50 be AF. $372,100, 73 be DT) were always going to ‘beat up’ the Suns. Oxley played his typical half back role and 20 of his 27 possessions were uncontested! You’d be silly to trade out Oxley before the byes.

With not many Suns on-ballers left, Touk Miller, 74 (Mid. $373,000, 51 be AF. $362,500, 50 be DT) is likely to be moved into the middle this week. I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam Saad, 72 (Def/Mid. $334,000, 32 be AF. $326,100, 26 be DT) has a run through on ball at some stage also. These potential midfield moves will boost their averages so don’t get rid of them just yet.

Angus Brayshaw, 83 (Mid. $344,000, 53 be AF. $324,300, 43 be DT), Jackson Thurlow, 74 (Def/Mid. $388,000, 40 be AF. $406,100, 58 be DT), Cory Gregson, 83 (Mid. $340,000, 38 be AF. $346,000, 49 be DT), Kamdyn McIntosh, 69 (Def/Mid. $322,000, 55 be AF. Def. $297,700, 42 be DT) and Callum Sinclair, 65 (Ruc/Fwd. $314,000, 25 be AF. $335,700, 38 be DT) just keep on keeping on. Hold them if you own them.

DON’T PANIC

I’m not prepared to pull the trigger on Patrick Cripps (Mid. $362,000, 61 be AF. $365,600, 86 be DT) just yet. 59 Fantasy points last week is a concern but no Gibbs or Judd on Friday night gives him a chance to flourish. Consider holding him if you have bigger problems to sort out.

Nathan Krakouer, 38 (Fwd/Mid. $272,000, 42 be AF. $253,400, 32 be DT) could be dropped after a poor showing but if he’s not, I’d hold him for one more week. Krak was subbed out after a quiet three quarters against the Tigers and with Impey firing in defence, I fear there isn’t a clear role for our dual position cashcow. Fingers crossed he holds his spot.

Mitch Clark, 63 (Ruc/Fwd. $297,000, 48 be AF. Fwd. $288,400, 62 DT), Ayce Cordy, 63 (Ruc/Fwd. $229,000, 10 be AF. Fwd. $258,700, 39 DT), Jake Lever, 58 (Def. $299,000, 42 be AF. $208,700, 9 be DT), Eli Templeton, 58 (Fwd. $231,000, 15 be AF. $245,700, 3 be DT), Alex Sexton, 57 (Fwd/Mid. $297,000, 33 be AF. $309,300, 62 be DT), Cameron Ellis-Yolmen, 56 (Mid. $358,000, 44 be AF. $352,200, 46 be DT), Jordan De Goey, 55 (Mid. $266,000, 45 be AF. $215,400, -7 be DT), Daniel McKenzie, 54 (Def/Mid. $259,000, 44 be AF. $189,200, 24 be DT), Jake Kelly, 50 (Def. $305,000, 23 be AF. $312,700, 32 be DT) and Henry Schade, 30 (Def. $195,000, 18 be AF. $191,000, 21 be DT) are down on output but all have breakevens lower then their averages so you shouldn’t lose out if you hold them for one more week. I wouldn’t go starting these blokes on the field though.

TRADE, TRADE, TRADE

If I haven’t categorised a player from Round 8 under ‘Keepers’ or ‘Don’t Panic’ then trade them out as soon as you can but when appropriate.

 

Two Gamers 

Almost all of Round 8’s two gamers wore the green vest. It’s frustrating that there hasn’t been a cheap standout in recent weeks but there are a few positives to take from those currently getting a gig.

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Blake Acres (Mid. $163,000, 28 be AF. $208,800, 56 be DT) is physically a lot stronger and powerful than last season and going by this year’s VFL stats (av. 24 disposals & 93 Fantasy points), he can find plenty of the footy. When he came on against West Coast on Saturday, Acres played through the guts and scored 39 Fantasy points from 44% time on ground. Even though he’s copped two green vests in his two games this season, plenty more opportunities should come his way amongst a young Saints team. From the slim pickings available, Acres is my number one trade down option for Fantasy but with a breakeven of 56 and a high price tag in Dreamteam, I’d wait to see what he does from a full game before bringing him in.

I jumped on Karl Amon (Mid. $142,000, 11 be AF. $124,600, -6 be DT) in both Fantasy and Dreamteam last week in the hope that he would be given a full game…it wasn’t to be. Amon wore green again but did score 25 Fantasy points playing in just the fourth quarter. With Matty White, Sam Gray and even Krakouer playing average last weekend, the odds are in favour of Amon getting a full run at it but I’m not holding my breath.

Connor Menadue (Mid. $180,000, 40 be AF. $117,900, 14 be DT) was handy for Richmond. He came on for the injured Ty Vickery half way through the second, won 7 possessions and scored 40 Fantasy points playing as a high half forward. It was his goal in the last quarter however, that set up the win for the Tigers. With fellow junior and teammate, Corey Ellis playing poorly, I suspect there will be no vest for Menadue this week and it wouldn’t be outrageous to trade him in this week.

Bailey Dale’s (Fwd. $176,000, 21 be AF. $117,900, -18 be DT) vest on the weekend throws a spanner in the works. At his basement price, Dale is a prime target for Dreamteam coaches but the uncertainty in where he fits in the Bulldogs 22 is generating some concern. I thought he had little influence versus Melbourne when he did come on but 5 possessions, 4 tackles, 1 goal and 35 Fantasy points isn’t a bad stat line from 42% game time. I’m not picking him.

Evidence suggests that Trent Dumont, 28 (Mid. $120,000, 19 be AF. $124,600, 23 be DT) is unlikely to get the game time and scores that we all need. North haven’t played the kids much in the past couple of seasons and Dumont has been in and out of the team, copping vests all the same. Risky pick in my opinion, as is Jack Leslie, 31 (Def. $150,000, 19 be AF. $169,300, 29 be DT) who doesn’t get his hands on it often enough to warrant selection.

The Gold Coast Suns have been kind enough to give us an update on cashcow Josh Glenn (Mid. $177,000, 0 be AF. $126,900, -52 be DT).

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One Gamers

Jack Fitzpatrick, 54 (Fwd. $203,000, 25 be AF. $124,600 DT) and Liam Dawson, 25 (Mid. $160,000, 33 be AF. $117,900 DT) were the only one gamers that featured in Round 8 and I don’t recommend either. Stay away!

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With tumbleweeds for rookies, I’m not against bringing in Ciaran Byrne (Def/Fwd. $121,000, 21 be AF. $124,600 DT). He’s currently listed as 1-2 weeks on Carlton’s injury list but it’s fair to assume that he’ll get playing opportunities later in the season. He was in favour before his injury! Only if you’re desperate.

 

Please note that if I haven’t mentioned a rookie priced player above, it means I don’t rate them. Remember rooks are classified as players under $250,000 in Fantasy and/or Dreamteam.

 

Keep Your Eye On

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No Sam Fisher for three weeks might finally see the birth of Hugh Goddard (Def/Fwd. $236,000, 43 be AF. $122,900 DT). The tall defender has been biding his time in the VFL and playing pretty good football. Against Brisbane’s young forwards this weekend, it will be a good initiation for him I would think. Goddard is currently Dreamteam relevant only due to price and should average around 60 Fantasy points.

I have a feeling that Brad Walsh (Mid. $120,000, 22 be AF. $102,900 DT) is a name we’ll hear a bit more of this season. Carlton’s tough insider midfielder has been in great VFL form averaging 19 possessions, 4 marks, 6 tackles and 81 Fantasy points over the past two weeks. Walsh is rookie listed but there is a spot for him on the senior list with fellow upgraded rookie Ciaran Sheehan suffering a long-term injury. He’s cheap as chips!

An injury to Jackson Trengove could present Tom Clurey (Def. $120,000, 22 be AF. $158,000 DT) with an opportunity. Clurey has been in the system a couple of years now and deserves the chance to prove his worth to the Port Adelaide faithful. Don’t expect big scores from this key defender though.

I’ve talked about Nick Graham (Fwd. $266,000, 70 be AF. $296,300 DT) before but with no Gibbs this week, Judd touch and Mick Malthouse sacked, odds are that he’ll be named. Graham has been the Northern Blues BOG three weeks running and last week his stat line read 16 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 12 tackles and 109 Fantasy points. I know he’s expensive and with his Fantasy breakeven at 70, I wouldn’t trade him in but definitely put him on your watchlist.

Jack Steele (Fwd/Mid. $227,000, 43 be AF. $117,900 DT), Orazio Fantasia (Fwd. $142,000, 27 be AF. $156,200 DT), Zac Jones (Def. $142,000, 27 be AF. $156,600 DT), Sam Colquhoun (Def. $219,000, 40 be AF. $197,700 DT) and Harrison Wigg (Def. $192,000, 36 be AF. $117,900 DT) are other fringe players that I’ve mentioned in recent weeks that could get a game in Round 9.

 

Feel free to ask me a question below and don’t forget to add me on Twitter @JeppaDT for all things Fantasy and more. Happy trading!

84 Comments

  • Cheers Jeppa.

    Downgrading Taylor Hunt this week, so unfortunately I require a defender. Already have Schade, and barring any interesting inclusions on Thursday (Colquhoun, J Kolo, Wigg, Scharenberg, Clurey) I may just bring in Byrne.

  • Excellent article as always Jeppa. With news that Gibbs/ Judd are out, im in a dilemma as to whether i should trade Cripps > Lewis or CEY> Lewis as a mid upgrade this week?. Last time Judd missed, Cripps scored 137 against the saints.

    • Tough call but I’d keep both CEY and Cripps this week if you can. If you can’t, flip a coin!

      • Thanks Jeppa, first thought was to keep both. I should look the upgrade my defence rather than the mids.

  • Great article Jeppa! Who would you trade out first in RDT: Miller, Cripps, or Ellis-Yolmen?

    • Dam that’s a tough one. If you had no choice then Cripps due to BE but it may come back to haunt you. If you can, keep all three.

  • slightly out of your ‘range’ but any thoughts on Savage and Biggs as ‘downgrade’ options?

    • I like both. Savage in form. Biggs has been getting a ton of it in the VFL and will come good.

  • Too bad Acres has the rd 12 bye! So we should be offloading CEY as I don’t think I saw him mentioned?

    • CEY is hiding in the Don’t Panic list

      • hmm strange, he didn’t show when I did a ctrl+F earlier but does now.

        I have Cripps, CEY & Vanders on the field with Glenn & Amon on the bench. Should I be looking at holding these guys and going say Ebert>Rocky? Using the cash generated elsewhere?

  • so confusing.

    last week vanderberg was a TRADE TRADE TRADE!! so i traded him.

    now he is a keeper.

    awesome.

    • Based on his recent scores and BE, yes he was on the trade list but he was well down the order.
      His role change to on baller last weekend changes everything!

    • Though to be fair he is a very up and down player, he could easily get 40 this week and be back to TRADE TRADE TRADE, I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.

      It’s a marathon not a sprint, so don’t stress over missing one good score, and at the same time don’t get too excited over one good score

  • great write up again Jeppa. With so little around think this is the most important article during the week when we don’t all follow the reserves. Have had Clurey sitting at D8 since day 1 as a cheap fit in as well as hoping that he’d get his chance soon.

  • Looking at trading out Newton and Cripps to Barlow and Dumont. leaves me 84,000 afterwards but would you suggest binning the Dumont trade in and maybe spending anywhere up to that 84,000 on a more promising rookie with better JS? Already have Glenn, Krakouer and Cordy?

    • Cam you get Acres?

      • yeah can get him in quite comfortably with 41,000 left in the kitty and at least he’ll be a stepping platform to another premium…hopefully:) Just hoping Clurey gets the call up soon as well:) Already have him in the team just waiting for him to start making me some upgrading moolah.

  • It’s hard to keep Cripps/Ellis-Yolmen with guys like Rocky so cheap. I’ve already got Acres, so who’s the next best downgrade option? P.S I’ve had your boy Priddis for the last three weeks, great call!

  • Last week I was surprised at everyone dumping Vandenberg – he was a starting mid for me :)

    This week Cripps is the person everyone wants to dump. I think it started with Warnie’s knee jerk response Sunday night, and disgruntlement because peeps held him for 1 week of injury – and then he got a 59.

    Yes he got a 59, but his BE is only 61.
    When I look at his stats for last week I see 4K + 15HB – so he still got a lot of ball. He does HB a lot, but that might change with a new coach. Also with Judd and Gibbs out he should get more mid rotation this week.
    Also last week he didn’t jag a goal and he gave away 3 Frees against – which kept his score a bit lower than usual. He still got 4 tackles (he averages 5 per game) which at Carlton makes him a tackling machine and should keep him in 22 over byes.

    Happy for all the lemmings to jump off, but he will be a starting mid for me.

    • So who would you offload for Rocky? CEY? Vanders? An underperforming Premo?

      • Rocky has R11 bye. So exit someone who is :
        a) overpriced/underperforming for their value, and
        b) getting them out improves your bye structure.

        Someone is underperforming if they are producing / or you expect they will produce
        Point Avg < Fantasy price x 0.00019

        • Correction – Actually that’s more for buying / holding
          Point Avg > Fantasy price x 0.00019

          For Selling:
          Point Avg < Fantasy price x 0.00018

          • hmm I don’t have anyone then haha I was thinking Ebert but he is 106.8<553000x.00018
            =106.8<99.54
            My Mids are: Pendles, I.Smith, Fyfe, Parker, Ebert, Cripps, CEY, Vanders (Glenn,Amon)
            As for dpp all my fwd's are doing well too: Gray, Swan, Dahlhaus, Dusty, Titchell, Bennell (Clark,Krak)
            If only I could dpp with def

    • I’m regretting a bit now but last week was the only way I could afford both Rocky/Yeo. There was some method to my madness. I’m hindsight I should’ve traded Bont instead.

  • I want to get Rocky this week. I also want to trade out (if Thursday’s selections let me) Lumumba & Leuenberger. But that means my other in can cost no more than $280k (can be mid, forward or back with DPP shuffling). I currently have Toumpas lined up for the gig, I think he has more upside than Duggan or McGuinness. Have I missed some better option than Toumpas here? I already have Glenn & Amon and I am holding off on Dumont as I expect I will need to bring him in next week to replace Glenn.

  • Jeppa, is it worth getting rid of both Cripps and CEY, who are currently both on my field, if it meant getting in Rocky and Zeibell?
    Or would you hold one of Cripps/CEY on field this week and upgrade Lumumba to Simpson?

  • Jeppa, is Seb tate out for long, I am new to DT and don’t know much

    • GC aren’t listing him on their injury list, so good signs
      but it also asks a more obvious question of “Why do you even have him?”

      • I don’t have him but was wondering if he was worth getting in, cheers for your help

        • actually thought he was about 100k more expensive, so he’s a viable option

          probably not much more than a playing bencher (and beware the rd12 bye) but you could do a lot worse imo

  • Thinking long term. Would it be better trading goodes to byrne or clurey? Or a dif def rookie?

  • Stwrt Jake Kelly (vs freo) or Rob Tarrant (vs coll)?

  • Was going to get Murdoch in for Cripps, but think I might hold now. Thanks Jeppa!

  • Pretty much all the rooks in my team you have said to keep. Therefore, I have decided to get Rockliff IN through a different method. I have a couple of underperforming FWD’s that I can get rid of. I also have Robbie Gray and Vandenberg in MID that I can finally shift FWD. These are the 3 Fwd’s in question:
    Taylor Adams, Tom Lynch(crows) and The Bont.
    They are all the same price, I might get Rocky and another MID for around 540k…not sure who yet….which two do I trade out?

    • Get out the two with the biggest BE. None are keepers anyway so just play the price drops. Also consider bye structure.

      • Lynch has made 130k and is starting to lose money, but adams and bont obviously have the higher b/e’s. lynch had one bad week, adams has had 3 and bont keeps on getting tagged. but yes you are right none of them are top 6 fwd and clearly need to go….thanks

    • Of those, keep Adams and Lynch.

      • no I meant pick 2 to trade out…theres nothing else I can really do with my team

  • Jeepers Jeppa

    I had Prestia -> Rockliff & Cripps -> Simpson

    Now Prestia -> Rockliff & Honeychurch -> Thurlow (Krakouer n Yeo DPP)

    Looks so much better for byes also.

    Thanks

  • So bloody hard go to choose one of Cripps/CEY/AV/MILLER/Krak to Rocky will be quite hard to choose the right one

  • Great stuff Jeppa. There’s really not a lot is there? I think I’ll give Amon and Dumont one more week and if one of them can shed the vest I’ll jump on. I mainly play RDT, so I’m hoping Hugh Goddard can get named. Clurey is another I hope gets a gig. What do you think of the chances of Peter Wright? Kicked 4 goals for the Suns reserves on the weekend and us RDT players could use an R3, we don’t have Clark.

    • Also, Lukas Webb got 33 touches on the weekend, is he a chance to come back in?

    • I’m actually prepared to miss Dumont, his JS is very-short term – until Swallow returns, and I’m not sure of his vest-avoidance skills (and a BE of ~20 this week is meh)

      GC actually seem very reluctant to play Wright, preferring to develop him in the NEAFL (good for a season or two, not so good now) – but then you have ZSmith ahead of him in that queue anyway (with TJ, Dixon and Nicholls all in the side as fwds/ruckman too)

      I personally have given up hope on the R3, so gave it to someone that’s at least knocking on the door (mine is O’Brien, of which he plays if Crows rest Jacobs imo)

      as for ‘downgrades’, I’m taking a look at the likes of the 250-300k players that have been sub-affected (Savage prime example, dished out back-to-back 90s and price is affected by redvest injuries)

    • Suns have a slow and steady approach with Wright

  • What are your thoughts on Eli Templeton FWD $231,000 BE 15 AF $245,700 RDT BE 3

    Scores of 79, 58 last two weeks

    I am aware there are a few coming in for Saints this week, but they do like the kid down there and wouldn’t be surprised if he keeps his spot.

    • Watching the game i reckon he’ll be dropped. Was no where to be seen in the first half

  • Week 8 – Trade V’Berg out….128
    Week 9 – Trade Cripps out…Gets a ton with Gibbs and Judd out

    Sorry Jepp but sounds like deja vu to me.

    • Hence why he’s listed under dont panic. Bringing in Rocky for Cripps for example makes a lot of sense regardless of how good Cripps goes this week.

  • Hey Jeppa nice work as always!
    Quite stuck with a trade, want to get out Goodes and upgrade cripps to Rocky.
    I have Yeo and want to hold, but left with option to cover with Schade Dumont or Nelson.
    What are the chances of Dumont getting the vest this weekend?
    Thoughts?

  • trade out cripps or miller or CEY?

  • should we even trade cripps with gibbs and judd out?

    • I’m keeping him. He will get his BE of 61 and I’m tipping him to reach 80.

  • My bench:
    M.Talia and N.Brown
    T.Dumont and M.Dick
    A.Cordy and T.Downie
    C.Salem and F.McInnes.

    Yikes.

  • M.Dick or Ciaran Byrne for my bench to replace Brett Goodes?

    • Byrne is likely to come back into the Carlton team next week, so him.

      • I reckon he’ll be in the twos for a week or two. The Blues got White and Simmo back from injury, Yarran from suspension and are playing Buckley at the moment so might not be a spot until he’s shown a bit

  • Great article Jeppa! I’m mainly looking at McInnes this week and Cordy for the ruck DPP

  • Great article Jeppa, who do you think is the best forward option under 250k? I’m leaning towards Mcinnes.

  • Great article this week Jeppa. I’m wondering who i should put on the field this week. Cripps/Newton in the mids and Clark/McInnes in the FWD. I’m leaning towards Cripps and McInnes (who i’ve traded in this week).

  • So if I shouldn’t trade out Cripps, who should I downgrade instead out of T.Adams, Belly, Krakouer?

    I’ll go Krakouer if he’s dropped, and I’d love to get rid of Belly, but there’s no decent ruck downgrades… other than Cordy.

    • How rude of me:

      Fantastic article & expertise, once again Jeppa!

      My team would be pathetic if it weren’t for your pearls of wisdom!

      • My team is pathetic despite the pearls. Glad I backed in Vanders for a F6 until the byes (and perhaps beyond given that the rest of the side needs a swift kick)

  • who would you upgrade lumumba in midfield to and hunt in defence to?
    cheers

  • I reckon Glenn will be a good option in 2 weeks when he comes back.

  • I agree with your logic of holding Cripps and Ellis-Yolman, and can still get Rockliff without that sacrifice. Somebody has to go, though.

    Provided Krakouer is named this week, I’m inclined to hold him for dual flexibility at the expense of Glenn. I can see merit in reversing that call, though.

  • Suddenly a lot of options Jeppa!

    Who are you liking out of Clurey, Hamling, J Kolo and Barrass?

    Would love a bit of insight if you have any!

    Cheers.