Calvin’s Captains – Summer Edition

So the rolling lock out is happening. You know what this means… the Loop Hole every single week! You will get a double chance of a captain! Check out my thoughts as Iprepares for what will be my biggest season so far.

My Early Thoughts

As you are aware, the rolling lockout is happening. Like it or not, it’s on! Personally, I don’t like it. For those that do… their mood may change a little when their opponent catches a break but changing a player who has been green vested or a late chance, and they miss it cause they are on the cans having a good time with their mates. Then they lose by 20pts. These stories will be very common. Call me old school but it just makes the game ‘high maintenance’. Either way, you won’t hear me bitching or whinging. It’s here, let’s just roll with it.

What Does it Mean for the Pirate?

In a nut shell it means more work as I’m going to have to look at Vice Captain options and Captain option every single week. It also means that I’m going to have to continually explain how this puppy actually works… read on.

How it Works

You’re only using the Loop Hole looking for 2 things.

  1. Safety
  2. Chasing

Safety is when you put the VC on a guy like Swanny. Take Rd. 9 for example when Swanny plays Sydney on Friday night. Now, if Swanny break a leg (oh my god heaven forbid) and scores 19pts then you can make Ablett your Captain (who plays on Sunday) and his score will be the one that is doubled. On the other hand, Swanny pumps out a huge 180 then you’d keep that as your captain score by putting a “C” on a player who is not playing. This might be an un-named rookie or an injured dude. This will mean that Swanny’s score is double to 360 and then the emergency on your bench will automatically replace the guy with the ‘C’ who scored you a 0.

Chasing is when you’d put a ‘C’ on a guy like Stanton. Take Rd. 3 for example. Essendon play the Dockers on Friday night. He might explode if the Crowley tag goes to Watson! He might have 160+, therefore by ‘chasing’ him for this game with a VC is a good choice. If he sucks and stinks it up, then you have Ablett (Sat Night) and Swanny (Sunday arvo) to replace him with a ‘C’ if you don’t like his score. If you do like his score, then as I’ve said before, play a guy who will score a 0, make him captain and you VC will automatically take over, as will the emergency sitting on your bench.

My Permanent Doughnut

The only way you can use the Loop Hole is if you have a player who IS NOT playing and will therefore score you a zero so your VC takes over. No one goes into the start of the season with donuts – we usually pick our rookies/bench players based on selection. But for me, at this early stage of the DT season I will be throwing my 4th ruck position and making him a cheap dud who will not play this year. Preferably a Fwd/Ruck which gives me the flexibility with Cox and NicNat (as Fwds) who are carrying the same Dual Position Tag. (It’s important to note that the non-playing ruck or player should play AFTER your vice captain as they won’t be locked in). Big call I know… but I can see more points coming from the Loop Hole than a dud ruckman who will only play me a handful of games and grow very little in price (like Redden/Stephensen last year). Your thoughts? Or have I gone mad?

New Structured Articles

With the games over such different times, at this stage my articles will be broken into 4 sections to make it easier for you guys to use this Loop Hole for week to week. The sections will branch over – Friday Night, Saturday games, Saturday Night and Sunday games. This should make it easier to see with easy time frames by glancing over each of the sections. This of course will change from time to time. Like in Round 1, when we have a Friday game, then a Saturday game. Then 5 days later there’s a Thursday game, followed by 3 games on the Saturday, 2 on Sunday and then 1 on Monday. You can see  that this might get nuts… but I’m here to guide you through and set it out from week to week in plain pirate English!

My New ‘Looplock’ Number

So when do you take the VC score? And when do you play your captain as normal? This is the million dollar question. Last year I would bank the VC score if they had 120+. In 2013, this will change. My options are torn with these…

  1. Bank the VC score if the Captain who is replacing them has a lower average than what the VC has scored
  2. Bank the VC score if the Captain who is replacing them is projected (by me) to score lower than what the VC has scored
  3. Set the ‘looplock’ number at 125+ or 130+. Points in the pocket are like gold. There are so many ‘what ifs’ each week, and if you have points in the bank, it’s sometimes better to lock them away.

It’s a tough call, I’ve been lucky and have taking a VC score 3 times over the last 2 years, getting it right each time.

So, what do you think? Let us know your thoughts, especially around the ‘magic’ number. See you in Round 1. This might just be fun! Arggg!

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  • thinking i will still go with a combo of any of grundy, daw, witts and currie. they should maybe all get games but i reckon most weeks at least one will be the zero you need for the vc loophole

  • Calvin, the vice captain could be playing on a saturday if the secondary captain, the 0 rookie and the player that would cover the rookie are playing on a sunday. Is this correct?

    • Yep, that’s right. You don’t want someone who has been locked in your scenarios!

      • This is all well and good and yes, we understand the reasoning behind the changes. However, VS really are catering only to retain those who already play Dreamteam.

        If they want to bring more people in (and increase the traffic) then the focus should be on making DT more appealing to newcomers.

        Don’t get me wrong – I love the complexities and nuances of the game – but if I was a newbie and considering signing up, I’d possibly be put off by the need to be involved over a whole weekend.

        To me it’s a clear cut case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

        • yeah but consider this stoo, the average 1st year player is going to have no idea about the vc loophole and will likely just set and forget prior to 1st bounce.

  • praying to the dt gods that vs wont allow the loophole to be used. rolling lockout is bad enough and could very well spell the end of the thousands of cash leagues people have had set up with mates for yrs. i know its the reason i love dt, rivalry between mates. far to much commitment involved now to seriously compete if you want any sorta weekend life.

    • Yep, the rolling lockout sucks. People are voting against it on the site (see poll in sidebar).

      Unfortunately the loophole will exist… the only way it won’t is if they either (a) lock in captains and vice captains at the first lockout… but this won’t happen as the whole thing about the rolling lockout is to be able to change our teams; or (b) they do away with the vice captain as we can change our captain if they are out… but this won’t happen as there will be a large group – maybe 80% – of coaches who will just play the game as they have done… locking on a Friday arvo.

      I don’t think it can be changed… unless I’m missing something.

  • yeh like birdy said above I’m just going with two rookies like grundy and currie who will get a few games but are both more than likely to have one not playing in any given week.

  • Agree with you Adelaide! DT is certainly losing a lot of it’s fun side

  • I certainly won’t go as well as last year. I think DT & SC is taking it too far with the rolling lockout, all the other changes I can live with. I also plan on doing things I do most weekends & that’s enjoying free time away from work & not sitting in front of the computer all weekend.

    • My thoughts too! For me, I feel it is a bit of a money grab… more website hits (Herald Sun will most likely have this as a paid article) to find out the late mail before each game.

  • Liam McBean could be that DPP ruck permadonut you are looking for Calvin.

    • It’ll be a key thing to find someone who is playing on Sunday arvos (or Saturday nights) a fair bit early on.

      • North have quite a few Sunday games pre-bye which is good for Daw/Currie and Collingwood have Sunday games in the first 3 rounds, which is good initially for Grundy/Witts but after that they start playing earlier in the rounds.

  • Good Stuff Calvin

    For me the rolling lockout sucks the big one

    • In theory I suppose it gives serious DTers the chance to make up ground as the season wears on… chasing the top1000 or whatever. For the rest of us, it just adds hassle factor. It’s like when you have poker night with your mates and then someone suggests “let’s have a theme!”… fun for the first few weeks and then eventually you just don’t give a toss.

  • “Either way, you won’t hear me bitching or whinging. It’s here, let’s just roll with it.”
    Thank you Calvin, I wish more people took this viewpoint.

    Agree with your thoughts on dud 4th ruck too. A ruck/fwd link will be superior to any combo of Grundy Witts Daw etc.

  • I think that what Calvin mentioned about Stanton could possibly make him a more popular choice. If he gets off to another flying start, which he very well could if he’s fit and Jobe + Goddard attracting most tags, the only knock on him is that he has the occassional 70-odd amongst the 140+ scores. But with the loopole available every round and Essendon seeming to have a lot of games early in each round pre-bye, coaches will now be able to cash in on a lot more of his big scores by ‘chasing’ them, whilst being able to bail when he puts in a dud.

  • Hawks appear to have the most Sunday and late Saturday games early on in the season, with Collingwood and Lions other good choices for you non-playing rookie player.

    Adam Pattison (HAW) is just above rookie price, but does give you that non-scoring R/F option

  • Haven’t checked the fixture yet, but Joel Hamling is a R/F and is now behind McIntosh, West, Vardy, and Simpson in the pecking order.

  • I tend to agree with Birdy. Unless there’s injuries the possibility of 2 rookie rucks both playing in the same round early in the season and you just happenning to have both in your team is pretty low. Even if they end up both playing later in the season, you’ve probably got a doughnut to use somewhere. How often during the season (after the first few rounds) do you have all 30 players playing in the one round? Not often. BUT, having two doughnuts to offer does increase the chances that the doughnut is late in the round.

  • Good to see you are still doing your homework amongst all of the fun & games during the offseason Capt. Calvin! Appreciate the way you have laid out and explained the strategy.

  • Do’t mean to ruin all the fun of speculations of no longer having problems with captains.
    But what if all players play.

    • Did you not read the article? Fielding a full team every week was a difficult task last year, what with all the LTI’s, rookies not getting games, etc. Usually, you’ll always have one person out. Many people are also considering going a dud as the fourth ruck. Given how awful Redden and Stephensen were last year, and Longer, Jenkins and Campbell weren’t much better, nobody used their fourth ruck too much anyway.

  • Sounds good Calvin – looking forward to it!

    I have a suggestion for it:
    Start the weekly captains article with a shorter version that is similar to the 2012 articles, then do the new in-depth/tricky format.

    A lot of readers (less obsessed) will still just check quickly for the standard options & won’t try to use any loopholes.

  • rolling locout is really gonna hurt people who go to games reguarly, and want to watch the game and not worry about making changes on your smart phone. It appears the nerds will prosper.. I think this is a horrible change, I loved the aspect of picking your team, and having it all locked and loaded friday night, and know we have to worry about this loophole garbage. I will roll with it, but im not happy with it!

  • we all hate the rolling lockout, but if you refuse to check the teams or are unfortunate where you can’t check team selections for whatever reason (ie. i have a life to live/work commitments); you will get no where near the top by seasons end. its a new rule, so a bit of a guess, but i reckon averaged out you could gain minimum 200-300 points over the year, probably more. there are obviously many other variables to final ranking position and a bit of luck and a good strategy, but to have a chance to keep up with the best you have to unfortunately check the teams before each game starts. its a guarantee the top 200 teams will be doing just that next year, especially with the MBR’s not being such a minefield to negotiate. No one says you have to sit in front of the tv and computer watching every game, a smartphone will do the trick on the go, just a quick check of the teams 30 minutes prior to the game starting.

  • The rolling lockout really isn’t going to be all that bad. Takes 30 seconds to jump onto this very website and get the rundown on whats happening before games. Most serious coaches are checking their DT constantly over the weekends whether on Fanfooty or the official site anyways.

    Will it ruin some coaches weekends? Yep.
    Will it make some coaches weekend? Yep.

    We’re all in the same boat and what it comes down to is how serious you are about the game. I love DT and aim for top 500 every year, so will adapt and use the new rules to my advantage.

  • Thoughts on the “looplock’ number? When should we bank it?

    • I’ll be going with a bit of number 2 and a bit of number 3. Maybe if your VC makes 130 but Swan/GAJ is playing a team that you think he will get at least 130 and possibly a lot more against, stick with Swanny/GAJ. But if your VC gets 145+, I’d take it, even though Swan/GAJ could get more. But if Swan/GAJ is playing a team they could just get 110 against, 125-130 would be my looplock number for the round.

    • Agree with Dream On!… perma-captains Swanny and Ablett will be hard to ignore if your VC only has 120 on the board. I reckon 130 is just about lock-away-able and 145+ is a no brainer. The magic number is probably something like 128.

      • I’ll lock in 120 Eddie.

        Did most peoples skip score 120 or more 50%+ of the time last year? If yours did, then well done you’re a top bloke with a massive rod and I want to be a bit more like you. If not, my theory is..

        Last year Swan has 9 games of 120 or less, 9 games over 120.
        Ablett has 10 games 120 or less, 10 games over 120.

        Unless the person you are planning on putting the C on is one of those two (which it probably will be most weeks), then it’s not worth it risking 120. If you’re going for a unique or a smokey and not taking 120, you’re probably making the wrong decision. Bank the 120.

        If god forbid Swan & Ablett are injured, suspended, or playing a team that they don’t play well against, then take 120 to the bank. If they are playing and it’s a team they score well against and are in form and projected to go bang, then make the call on risking the 120 based on your opponents players left, current score, expected donuts, etc.. and whether potential extra points gained/lost will decide your match.

  • On another note Calvin – what happens during bye rounds? I’m assuming it messes with the loophole given your top 18 score.
    Further to that what is the actual rule if, say, your captain doesn’t get a top 18 score? What if he posts a 75 which is your 19th highest scorer but when doubled it’s a 150. Do you get the 150 or is his score dropped and you get your VCs score doubled?

  • Good question Matt

  • With Swan and Ablett averaging heaps i think 125 would be ok to bank with your VC .. If your VC is Ablett or Swan then this number would be an easeir choice imo. But i always like to select a captain and stick with them all year then you dont miss their massive scores when they get em. Do you guys know if you actually do score more using the loophole rather than sticking with Swan all year as an example

    • Yeah you can get more out of it. Say a Stanton or Franklin or someone capable of smashing out a huge score is playing early on, give him a VC and he might get a 175+. Swan might do it as well that round but probability says it will just be another solid 110. If your VC fizzles then you get Swan anyway and if they fire you will get just as good and probably better than Swan.

  • Probability says he will score another solid 110 ? he averaged 130 last year ..If Stanton or Franklin or someone scores 170 then yeah its worth it but how many times will you select the guy that scores thinking it aint gonna happen too often

    • Swan’s average of 130 was the result of some monster scores. He dishes out half a dozen or so of these a year, but for the most part, it’s solid scores of 100-120 odd. The bottom line was that using the loophole means you are never getting worse than Swan’s score (unless you take your VC’s 150 and Swan gets 170 for example) and you could potentially get some mammoth scores whilst Swan gets one of those 100-120’s. Hence, it’s better than just putting your C on Swan and not experimenting. It won’t come off every round of course, but it will on occassions.

  • Just put Ablett VC, Swan Captain. One of them will score 130+

  • Not going to bother picking a non starter this year. I had so many players not playing last year that I’m sure a donut will not be hard to find in my line up :p

  • Calvins Captains gonna be more important than ever! Get around it fellas!

  • Well surely #1 and #2 should be Captain and Vice Captain picks, you dont need to do anything really Calvin, your never gonna stop people going “what about______?