Chook’s Rooks – Round 10

It’s the shortest Chook’s Rooks in living memory this week, partly due to me having flown my Tassie coop for the warmer climes of Queensland, but mostly due to the imminent arrival of the multi-bye rounds. Tbetta, that guy from the post-game TV show, said it best, as he always does, when he wrote: “Do. Not. Trade. There is simply no point unless you have an LTI.” So unless you’re a Heath Scotland owner, as I am, then it’s ice your trigger finger time. No sideways trades, no upgrades and, this is where I usually come in, no downgrade trades. Next week, sure. But this week you’re just swapping doughnuts for doughnuts. And I’ve tried that. It doesn’t work. Apparently Krispy Kreme can’t resell them once you’ve licked off all the passionfruit icing.

Three-or-more gamers

The wife and kids think we chose Queensland for the family holiday because of the beaches and theme parks, but really it’s so I can pay homage to Brisbane mid-fwd Dayne Zorko. There’s a very good chance my obsession will end in a Borat-style kidnapping of the Zorkinator, but he hasn’t done any book signings like Pamela Anderson yet. Why the fascination with Zorko? Well, after back-to-back 90s, he upped the ante in the Lions’ upset win against West Coast to score his first 100, finishing second only to GWS wonderkid Stephen Coniglio, who raised his own ceiling to 115. In fact, all of the top five scores in this bracket set new PBs. GWS mid Dylan Shiel improved ever so slightly on his round nine score to nab 95, Gold Coast forward Aaron Hall returned in style with an 84, and Carlton defender Josh Bootsma burst his bubble with a 79. Hall’s inclusion and subsequent high score is a real boon for the coaches who kept him, arriving just in time to cover doughnuts over the MBRs. In contrast, midfield teammate Kyal Horsley has dropped off at the wrong time, leaking dollars ahead of his likely upgrade between rounds 12 and 13 and, even worse, putting his place in the team in jeopardy.

Two gamers

Again, we’re not downgrading this week, right? Of the eight two-gamers who played in round 10, three of them – Adelaide defender Sam Shaw ($104,200), North Melbourne forward Aaron Black ($150,400) and Western Bulldogs mid Daniel Pearce ($98,700) – have the bye this week, so the only point of downgrading to these guys is to make cash, potentially at the cost of increasing your doughnut count in the following rounds if they’re omitted in round 12. Trading in one of the others – Collingwood forward Jamie Elliott, Magpie mid Marley Williams, Hawthorn mid Brad Hill, Richmond forward Ben Griffiths or Gold Coast forward Alik Magin – won’t have you eating any less doughnuts over the three MBRs either, unless you plan to trade them out again before their bye, which is hardcore/crazy-bad DTing. The injury to Scott Pendlebury probably improves the short-term job security of the Magpie pair, but I wouldn’t be using a trade on either of them right now – unless you royally rooted your team at the start by filling it with non-playing types like Callum Papertalk and Jordan King-Wilson, of course.

One gamers

Five more debuts in round 10, but nothing to salivate about. The only marginally attractive score came from a player priced too highly to be a viable downgrade option in GWS mid-fwd Nick Haynes, who costs $152,700. He grabbed 57 points in the loss to Geelong, while the two first-gamers in white and blue hoops in that game – midfielder Jordan Schroder and forward Lincoln McCarthy – scored just 56 between them. Like McCarthy, Fremantle mid-fwd Hayden Crozier and Port Adelaide defender Andrew Moore, who’s played 13 games over the past two years but is still rookie-priced, were restricted by the green vest, scoring 16 and 6 respectively.

If any of you crazy cats out there are trading, I’d love to hear about it in the comments, or on Twitter @ChookDT. I’ll be back next week with a more meaningful Rooks, as we look to ship out those round-12 bye boys for some rested up round-11ers.

136 Comments

  • Who do people think is the best upgrade option for Bugg? Shaw, Suckling. Birchall, or Broughton? Don’t care about bye structure.

  • Anyone got good ideas about who to trade Scotland to? I don’t have Shaw Broughton or Heppell who would be the best out of those 3?

  • yeah hopefully his js will be alright cos i need him…

  • The one exception to the no upgrade rule this week is in the rucks. If you have the cox/giles combo and one of redden/stephenson doesn’t play you will get a donut. So upgrading to Sandi/Maric would actually save a donut rather than relocate it.

  • getting a premium mid, someone that’s playing round 12, who is the best option.
    Cheers

  • Hi Guys,

    Question: Hold or Trade

    Rank: 298
    Trades: 14

    Everything was going well until this week

    Have Scotland, Waters, Pendles

    Who stays? Who must go?

    • …and 171K in bank

      • I have Waters & Pendles and will be keeping both.
        If you’re trading Scotland to cover the bye I would keep him, but I’m not sitting in the top 300 :-)

      • I am ranked much lower than you so it doesn’t feel right giving you advice, but you asked the question so here goes :)

        My logic in the same situation is with Waters and Scotland both out in defence, having two premiums out for multiple weeks both in defence is pretty tough. I didn’t want to sideways trade both players, so I traded out Scotland. Waters is healthy and will be out for 2 weeks (bye round and suspension) regardless. Scotland out 3-4 weeks, and there is no certainty with an injury, what if it was 4 weeks plus. Or worse he comes back too early and re-injures. The other factor is, which some may of forgotten, is he has a court case coming up. I assume if he is found guilty there is a chance he gets suspended by Carlton? So to me you get rid of Scotland and keep Waters.

        I wouldn’t use another sideways trade, plus Pendles is such a gun, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed he isn’t out too long.

        But like I said i’m ranked lower than you, plus I guess you have the pressure of holding a high spot in the rankings. I’d only use one trade for a sideways and keep the rest of your trades for upgrading/downgrading and later LTIs (what if you have 2 or 3 season ending injuries?)

  • Ablett or Swan…yes it’s true, I currently have neither!
    Current Mids – Pendles, Boyd, Stanton, Thompson, Selwood, Magner, Horsley, Zorko…

  • I don’t understand these warnings against trading this week…

    This is the way I look at things…

    Lets say hypothetically in round 11 and round 12 I have 5 donuts.

    If I make 3 trades to cover donuts this week, and I don’t trade next week how many donuts do I get….7

    If I follow the advice not to trade, and make 3 trades next week to cover donuts, how many donuts do I have over the two weeks….7

    Keep in mind I’m not talking sideways trading, I’m talking upgrades, downgrades and covering LTI’s (e.g. Scotland)

    To add to this if I hypothetically have a must win league game this week against a top opponent, why would I chose to cop more donuts this week and less donuts next week?

    I think as long as your trading to improve your side and not sideways trading, it doesn’t matter when you trade. By saving your trades for the next couple weeks your simply copping more donuts this week instead of in the following 2 weeks.

    If i’m missing a key point here, please tell me?

    I am suffering big time in a tough league and this week since I have 17 trades, will be using 3 to improve my side and make sure of a win this week. I will have donuts in the following rounds, but I am improving my team and saving donuts in a must win league match…I really don’t understand this DO NOT TRADE THIS WEEK NO MATTER WHAT logic…please prove me wrong :)

  • Cant decide who to upgrade treloer to doing it saves me a donut but dosent give me one later because i only have 1 mid with round 13 bye

    Its out of

    Mitchell who is a proven premuim but can get tagged out of a game
    Cotchin who has been playing well but usally gets a tag but has a high ceiling
    or Ebert who hasnt only scored under 90 twice (which were both 85) and scored 120 4 times and he dsoent get tagged

    Who do you think he best option would be??

  • I made a bet with a workmate and he says if i get under 1900 he gets $150 from me if i get 1900+ then the $150 comes my way. Here is my team: (Bench stocked with bye players)

    Def: Delids, Goddard, Broughton, Suckling, Clarke, Spurr, Hargrave (DONUT)

    Mid: Stanton, Boyd, Ablett, Magner, Horsely, Neale

    Ruc: Maric, Redden

    Fwd: Buddy, Sidebum, Robbinson, Whitcross, Martin, ,didak, Porpz (DONUT)

    Can i still get over 1900 with 2 donuts???

    • of course. but getting 1900 will be for you like getting 2100.

      as you are working with 20 players instead of 22.

      Iv’e got 6 donuts so from 16 players that will be 1500……

    • Boyd in the midfield doesn’t get you a donut either?

      I reckon you’re in trouble myself, but you never know.

    • You can count Spurr as a donut, as a fellow owner I can’t see him playing again unless there are some injuries and it was my worst mistake of the year.

      • Not really.

        Spurr was brought back in a week or two after being dropped. I never expected anything else than him to be an intermittent player.

        There were also 0 other downgrade options, and a downgrade needed to be made.

  • Also have one trade left 4 the week should i use it to take off a donut or save it???

  • What are everyones thoughts on malceski?
    He started well but he has sucked the last like 5 weeks, im thinking of trading him to dan nicholson from melbourne cos hes about to go up in price with a B/E of 6.
    What do you reckon?

  • My plan was always not to trade this round, but it has changed. I’m glad I’ve been stingy using trades so far this year…

    The plan was 1 donut Round 11, and 1 in Round 12, both in the forwards. The minimum possible, and separated so that each round score is solid. Then the Pendles thing happened, adding a Round 12 donut in my mids.

    I’m going to go JMac (peaked and set to bleed imo) > Williams, and Folau (I know, I know) to Elliot. Williams will play this week and Pendles takes JMac’s place on the bench.

    It fattens up my bank balance to a healthy 600K for my Round 12/13 upgrades, and moves all of my donuts to Round 12, which I see as tactically wise because my opponent isn’t very good. He might beat me but that gives him a better chance of making the eight and being a weak finals opponent. And to be honest I think I’ll win three donuts and all.

    The Collingwood boys were very good on Sunday. I know it was only the Suns, but they were composed and slotted into the team well. They have shot past Ugle and Young in the pecking order IMO and have better short term JS than you might think.

    • did the same bringing in elliot and williams but ill probs have a problem when it comes to collingwood bye but only my fathers dt who wants one but doesnt understand how to do it all himself. :)

  • Boys – what are the thoughts on Giles being able to see out the rest of the year?
    At this stage he’s making my premo ruck (Sauce Jacobs) look very average.
    Do you reckon we’ll get away with carrying Giles all the way throughout the year?
    (Dear DT Gods this is not an invitation to create more ruck carnage and have him do a knee while he’s polishing Kevin Sheedy’s shoes!)

    • When brogan comes back his output my drop off. Sauce has been very average this yr, So I will be looking to upgrade to maric at some point

  • After planning to conserve trades and carry Goodes until he returned, i’ve finally cracked… at about the same time Luke Parker’s collarbone did!
    For cash (and hopefully someone who’ll play) Parker > Williams, then for donut avoidance Goodes > Stevie J (should have done that two weeks ago) and Smith > J.Voldt.
    Will be sleeping on this one and have the mouse hovering over the RT button until teams tomorrow lockout though

    • J. Voldt is risky as IMO. It’s just too easy for coaches to take a traditional full forward out of the game these days. Which is why there’s only one team in the comp that still has one. The rollercoaster will be down more than up i reckon

      • I am taking a 2 week risk with Jack this week. His break even is blow my mind. Every chance to make you $80,000 for the 2 weeks plus cover a donut. Sometimes gotta risk it..

  • Why is everyone dumping Scotland? like hes only out for a couple weeks

    • I am keeping him mate only brought him in a couple of weeks ago so to me would be a bit of a waste trade…ready to become the donut king over the next 3 weeks….I am hoping by the end of the byes my team will be close to full strength with injurys and suspensions out of the way and have a strong run towards the finals…

  • Cant decide who to upgrade treloer to doing it saves me a donut but dosent give me one later because i only have 1 mid with round 13 bye

    Its out of

    Mitchell who is a proven premuim but can get tagged out of a game
    Cotchin who has been playing well but usally gets a tag but has a high ceiling
    or Ebert who hasnt only scored under 90 twice (which were both 85) and scored 120 4 times and he dsoent get tagged

    Who do you think he best option would be??

  • What’s Jesse Crichton like as an option?