Deck of Dream Team 2012: Bryce Gibbs

Name: Bryce Gibbs
Club: Carlton
Position: Midfield
Assistant Coach Price: $529,000
Bye Round: 13
2011 Average: 107
2011 Games Played: 22
Predicted Average: 115

Why should I pick him? Bryce Gibbs is a gun who is on the verge of becoming a weapon of mass destruction. Last year the selection of Gibbsy was easy due to his DPP eligibility as a def/mid but this year it is not so straight forward as his defender status has been stripped. It is important that we ignore the bonus of last year and now just put him in the category of developing midfield stars looking to take their game to a new level. Throughout the early stages of last year, Gibbs was given a variety of roles which lead to some inconsistent scores. After starting the year brilliantly with 147 and 144 in his first 2 hit outs, he let coaches down by not producing another triple figure score for 5 weeks. On the back of this, he doesn’t look like a very tempting prospect, however the second half of the year presented him with a far more attacking midfield/forward role where he managed to kick multiple goals in 6 of his last 7 games and was far more consistent and damaging from a DT perspective. The killer stat that must throw him into contention is the fact that between the rounds of 16 and 24 he never dropped under the 100 point mark and only twice dropped below 110. Infact, over this period he was on par with the elite averaging 121. This should be a sign of things to come from the young star who will play predominantly throughout the midfield and should avoid the tags that tend to follow Judd and Murphy. Although Bryce missed the all important final for the Blues last year, you won’t find many more durable players in the league. Throughout the home and away season, Gibbsy has only missed 1 game in his 5 year career.

Why shouldn’t I pick him? The fact that Bryce is such a team player, can hurt his scores, especially given the fact that he is more than capable of shutting down superstars and could be called upon from time to time to fill this role. The only other negative is there is a lot of competition from young stars looking to take their game to a new level who are priced in a similar bracket to Gibbs.

Deck of DT Rating: King- It’s only a matter of time until Bryce reaches the level of All Australian and DT Ace. His average over the last 9 weeks of the season clearly showed his potential and given the right role within the team next year, Gibbsy with be right up there with the stars who elevate their game to greater heights. It is also reassuring to hear coach Brett Ratten claiming that Bryce is ready to put his hand up and challenge for the title of the clubs best midfielder, surpassing that of Judd and Murphy. Having said this, and with my complete confidence he will improve on last years average, his awkward price leaves him only a 30% chance to line up for destROY in round 1.

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44 Comments

  • nah

  • DPP would make him a must have, but he’s just not going to fit into my structure. I think his potential to score big has to be considered, but the fact that he occasionally does end up in a shutdown kind of role makes me lean towards a more selfish player. Really would be a great upgrade target if he drops early due to the odd shutdown role.

  • Not in my starting line-up. He needed that DPP link.

  • Great write up Roy! But I can’t see Gibbs starting for the Autobots in 2012, the price is just too awkward and there is better options around imo… Good inclusion in the deck though.

  • As others have said, he is unlikely to start for my team but will crawl in later if his form holds and/or price drops. Handy upgrade after byes too.

  • GO SIMON ” THE WIZARD” WHITLOCK!!! :)
    PDC WORLD CHAMPION!!!

  • tough one… will increase his average but can you trust him to be 110+ every week? he is up agaisnt swan, ablett, pendles and co in the middle there afterall, only 6 spots to fill!

    watch list.

  • Think i might take a punt on him… Basically i reckon if he didnt have MPP last season and he just a mid putting up those numbers then everyone would be all over him in 2012 as stepping upto that next midfield level…

  • A bonus that would make me consider him is that he shares his bye with Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond and St Kilda. Realistically, I think Gary Ablett is the only other midfielder I would have in my team for that Round 13 bye. I’d probably be picking Bryce over Marc Murphy (or Judd) from Carlton anyway.

  • I hadn’t even thought about him till now.. But I’ll pass still. I think Marc Murphy will take his game to a whole new level next year so if I was going to pick any Carlton midfielder it would be him. Great right up though Roy! You still got me thinking for a bit :)

  • Too hard basket for me, if I pay premo, I expect premo scores each week, his team role is too worrying.

  • Roy’s original Boy. Great write up.
    I remember vividly watching Gibbsy playing seniors for the Bays whilst in Year 11 at Brighton High School. … He was kicking goals with ease from 60 back then too… and such a level headed and down to earth young man. He is good like that which is great for DT
    As already mentioned you can’t load up with players from the same team anymore and I think Marc still has him covered (just).
    Having said that I wouldn;t be suprised if he ends up being the next Joel Corey !!

    • Now that’s a blast from the past… I also remember watching Gibbs playing for the bays while at Brighton high… Only difference it was his father, Ross.

  • Can’t consider anyone for a mid position that is still a BIG chance to play a lock down role in games.
    I guess it boils down to me not trusting Ratten!!!

  • He tends to reverse split his average, his second half of the season is nearly always stronger.

    Maybe an upgrade.

  • Great write up Roy. Bryce is a tough one for me as he’s been a lock in my previous sides and has been a great performer in the past.

    I’m thinking of skipping Gibbs and going Scotland to fill the D/M role that Gibbs played last year. Problem is I’m not 100% confident in Scotland – can he do the job?

  • Don’t forget this guy was also second in the league in marks per game with Travis Cloke. If that stays consistent, along with a spike in possessions per game due to more midfield time, the scores are gonna hit the roof….

  • Good write up roy but i’m gonna pass. Although he will probably bump up his average to 110+ there are simply better options in the midfield (swan, ablett, rockliff, barlow etc).

  • Along with Selwood, Gibbs is a good unique because he is a sixth year players. Forget the third year theory, there have been quite a few to really lift their game in their sixth year. Will definitely try to fit him into my team

    • ahh yes, hopefully he can follow in marc’s footsteps of having the famous 6th year breakout!

  • Byes aside (I’m going for a league win so I’m happy to lose a game or 2 mid season in order to pick my best team), I don’t understand the concern about having 2 mids from the same team. All of these would have been winning moves last season:
    Murphy, Gibbs, Judd
    S Thompson, Van Berlo
    Redden, Rocklifffe
    Pendelbury, Swan, Thomas, Ball
    GAJ, Rishcitelli
    Martin, Cotch, Lids
    Goddard, Dal Santo
    Stanton, Watson
    Boyd, Griffin
    Priddis, Embley
    Swallow, Wells
    Goodes, ROK (in midfield or fwd line).

    There are also many that maybe would not have been regarded as successes, but would be far from regarded as failures, eg Selwood / Bartell / Corey / Kelly, Mitchell / Hodge.

    So why do we have to pick between Murphy and Gibbs? I don’t think we do. I will be picking Gibbs as he gets a lot more easy DT points than Murphy and has always fought above his weight class, but if you think both will improve by 5 or so points, why not pick them both? If 1 of those 2 perform under your expectations and end up being only your 6th best mid, you’ve got a pretty good midfield.

    Also:
    – I think Carlton will improve next year so there is no reason why both players can not to improve (see above list of players that mostly come from top 8 or improving sides),
    – Carlton play Richmond in round 1 again so Murphy and Gibbs should both score 110+ points in that game.

    • Are you joking? I’m going to go through that list team by team saying what wouldn’t have been winning moves

      Judd: Dropped his average slightly, and only averaged 102.4
      Your call on van berlo is probably legit… just.
      brisbane/ collingwood are all right.
      Riska didn’t even maintain his average, whilst ablett was only a good pick up past about round 10 (aka, after his second bye)
      The richmond ones are valid calls, although deledio would be played in the backline by anyone with half a brain.
      Goddards average dropped by nearly 20 points, while dal santo just maintained at quasi-premium, hardly good mid choices, especially as goddard would have been played in people’s backline.
      stanton would have been a reasonable pick. Watson only played 16 games to injury, and after injury his scoring went down the toilet. If you’d traded him when he peaked though, wouldn’t have been too bad.
      Griffen wouldn’t have been a bad pick, but he hardly made people bang their heads on the table for missing him. Boyd was a reasonable pick, but considering he was a top three 2010 mid, it’d be kind of stupid to be surprised.
      Priddis would have been a good pick. Embley, not so much…
      Wells would have been an ok pick. Swallow not really.
      ROK and Goodes would have both been good picks.. for the fwd line…
      Mitchell/ Shiels should both have been there for sure in that list if redden/ rocky made it.

      Why would you pick two players for a 110+ score in round one, when there’s not even H2H? Picking players like goodes, scott thompson, or hayes would be better since they are playing gc, gws and port in round 1… but eitherway, planning a team for just round 1 is ridiculous.

      basically, the general gist is that no, not all of those would have been winning moves. The majority of them would just have stagnated your team.

      • stop spamming dt talk ziplock. we get enough of you in fanfooty. enough is enough!

        • Yours are all valid comments, Ziplock. I was just stating my opposition to the theory that u cant have 2 premium mids from 1 team. But to address some of your comments:
          – Judd played 22 games and averaged 102.4 so I reckon everyone that picked him would have been satisfied. You cant expect all your mid premiums to increase their average.
          – Risca played 21 games and almost maintained his average. And IIRC, he started the year on fire so could have then been upgraded to a premium.
          – GAJ – played 20 games and averaged 112. that’s Down on 2010 but still a decent return. He cost me 2 league wins because I didn’t have him all year.
          – Griffin increased his average by 7. not everyone can pull a Rockliffe.
          – Youre right about Goddard. Shouldn’t have included him.
          – Watson – sorry – forgot he missed all those games. My mistake. But he improved his average and u cant predict all injuries.
          – Swallow played 22 games and maintained his average.
          – Embley improved his average so would have been a good pick
          – I didn’t include the Mitchell/ Shiels combo as Sheils started the year as a mid priced players. I was just referring to mid keepers / premiums
          – Wasn’t planning a team just for round 1. was just stating that they had an easy season opener.

          Like I said, just my opinion, but I reckon anyone who selected the combos I listed (except the Goddard and Watson combos, as u pointed out) would have been happy with those selections.

          • I don’t know… in competitive league, or going for overall, having midfielders who maintain averages of 102 or high 90s, is going to be detrimental to your team.

            I understood your reasoning for excluding shiels, but since you included redden + rockliff I thought maybe you were using mid pricers as well lol.

            and Ablett, after missing round 1, in his next 5 games only averaged 91, and dropped 100k in that period :P

            wcarey… I don’t think you can really call that post ‘spam’. And I’ve only posted half a dozen times on DTT. As for spamming on ff, that’s a pretty big call as well, I have a high post count for sure, but I’m still only on 1/3 as many posts as HP, and aren’t even in the top 10 posters? +, I give a lot of advice. Most of my posts are really quite helpful and constructive.

            So, don’t be a dick :P

  • Gibbs will outscore Murphy this year i reckon. He is going to take Juddy’s mantle this season.

    • I think they’ll both outscore Juddy but Judd will still maintain that 100 average Murphy will play the same roles and keep up the same scoring and Gibbs well you can play him anywhere and he’ll pick up 90 minimum

  • he certainly is not a bad pick… Will get @110 average you would think with a few 140’s during the year. Be a POD to start with..be in EVERY team if DPP. Cant have ’em all..

  • Can’t really justify his erratic scoring with the Mid only tag. I’ll probably pass on him this year.

  • Looks like I’m in the minority here on Gibbsgate, oh well, that’s my unique POD. :)

  • Lost his DPP but will almost certainly keep his place in my side.

    Durable
    Carlton should improve as a side (top 4 chance)
    HIgh draft pick entering his 6th year
    Smashed it second half of 2010 (9 tons)
    Won’t get no.1 tag every week (thanx to C Judd 3 votes)

    One of my first picked!

  • Same thing happened with Hodge, was in everyone’s team the season before last with his dpp, now only a few had him last year, gonna pass this year, just too many solid mid options available with one fewer space available. Solid write up though Roy, there will be quite a few tempted by him I’m sure.

  • Rather Murphy than Gibbs. He might be worth looking at after their bye.

  • I’m strongly considering Gibbs at this stage.

    Averaged 115.5 in the second half of 2011 compared to Murphy’s 107.9