Deck of Dream Team 2012: Dustin Martin

Name: Dustin Martin
Club: Richmond Tigers
Position: Midfielder/Forward
Bye Round: 13
2011 Average: 89.4
2011 Games Played: 22
Predicted Average: 103

Why should I pick him? For the last few years we have searched for what we have called a ‘third-year-breakout-player’… there have been some great examples of this, but many are hit and miss. Dustin Martin hits his third year and is building into a pretty handy Dream Team player along the way. He averaged 89 last season from his 22 games after a debut season of 21 games and average of 71. As for games played, he ticks the durability box without question.

I’ve been thinking about Martin for a few months as a unique midfielder to select in my team. The Tigers are ‘on the way up’ and Dusty one of the shining lights in their midfield makeup. There is a bit of talent there (eg. Cotchin, Deledio, Foley, etc), so attention can be spread I feel. When he has copped a tag, he hasn’t done too badly. For example, in Round 8 last year Liam Picken went to him and still managed 26 touches and cracked 102 DT points. A lot of games in 2011 he went head-to-head with opponents.

Last season 7 of his games Martin scored 100+ with another 6 above 90 points. His highlight was in Round 5 against North Melbourne where his 33 touches and 4 goals gained him his career high 141 points. Goal kicking has helped boost Dusty’s scores, finishing with 31 for 2011. This should make him a MID/FWD in my opinion, but it won’t happen. It has been confirmed today (19th December, 2011) that Dusty will in fact be a Dual Position Player named as a MID/FWD. Hello boys! Lock him in!

Now to finish the ‘pros’ about Dustin Martin, you have to always reference a “He’s Flying” article. Last month the Herald Sun talked up how he is much fitter this year and doing his Tan run with Brett Deledio, one of the fittest at the club. Last pre-season he was in the weight loss group yet now he has dropped his puppy fat and aims to be playing a couple of kilos lighter. Anyway, this is only good news. A full preseason is on the cards.

Why shouldn’t I pick him? The multi-bye rounds will always be of concern for all players we consider. Richmond share theirs with Gold Coast, Carlton, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide and St Kilda. The man who kicked off our Deck of DT, Gary Ablett, will probably be in a lot of teams and if you mix in a Carlton midfielder in there, that round could prove costly.

While there isn’t much downside, if Martin cops the tag and therefore doesn’t show a great deal of improvement in scoring, he is a waste of a pick. To be honest, we need at least 100+ average for him to even finish as a respectable 6th midfielder. Is (my predicted) average of 103 enough? Well, any player improving by 14 points per game is always a good thing but we’re buying him at a keeper price. Hmm…

Deck of DT Rating. QUEEN – Dusty is ready to step up to be a 100+ type player. He showed enough in 2011 and coming into this pre-season in a bit more shape, I’m backing him in to be one of the premiums that we all ‘saw coming’ and knew we should have got on! Would be awesome if he followed our boy Tom Rockliff who took his 2nd year average of 87 to 112… the challenge is thrown out there Dustin Martin, are you up to it?! And now with DPP, Dustin Martin will be in 300,000 Dream Teams!



  • Yep definitively have this guy locked in for years too come

  • Doesn’t the 3rd year breakout player hark back to the days where mid-pricers were viable? Viva la guns and rookies.

    • Yep, too true. Depending on the bye rules, we might find some value in midpricers. Although a Tom Rockliff improvement of 87 to 112 is a pretty good example of ‘breakout’ from last year. Nothing will beat Jimmy’s third year though… 50 to 93.

      If Martin can average 105, then he is quite valuable.

      • Id have to disagree with you their Warnie. My boy Shiels jumped from an average of 53.3 upto 100.7 in his third year, takes the cake in my eyes :)

        • Good point, but 93 average back then was HUGE. ;) Sheils was awesome this year. A massive effort! He was a shoulda, woulda, coulda!

  • I would also argue that the recruitment of Ivan Maric will benefit Dusty “Don’t Argue” Martin.

    Richmond had very poor ratio hit outs to advantage last year.

    Reports from Richmond has Maric a massive improvement over Graham/Browne in hitouts and physicality.

    Reece Conca is one option for the defenders I am considering.
    – Will improve with an uninterrupted preseason

    “Changes are also planned for the midfield, with Conca – likened by the Richmond coach to a young Marc Murphy – to get his chance on the ball next year. He will be joined by dual best and fairest Deledio, set to be released from his role at halfback thanks to the recruitment of quality kicks like Ellis, Morris, Dea and Houli.”

    • As a Crows supporter I can guarantee you Maric will bring the type of grunt Richmond hasn’t had since the 80’s, he’s a phyco!!

    • I will be going Brandon Ellis over Reece Conca in my backline this year. Watch for Brett Deledio to switch into the midfield to add some class and Brandon Ellis to use his lovely long kicking out of defence.

  • Would love to pick guys like Martin and also Trengove (who I think will also have a breakout year) but the problem will be fitting them into a team with Barlow and possibly Hayes.

  • I’d get him if he was any position other then midfield, however Swan/Ablett/Zaharakis/Rockilff is my locked midfield so I can’t slip him in.

    • Yeah similar to ours – Swan/Ablett/Murphy/Barlow – Barlow is a surer bet than DDus (barring injury).

  • What about Shiels’ third year warnie- 53 to 103 :P

  • I can’t see myself picking Martin. Sure, he is young and has plenty of upside. I prefer to pick premiums that are proven performers over at least a 2 year period. Dustys average of 89 in his second year just doesn’t cut it for me. I would pick someone else that has averaged at least a ton.

  • Popular midfielders who share a bye with Dustin Martin:
    Carlton: Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs (DEF), Chris Judd, Heath Scotland (DEF), Mitch Robinson
    Port Adelaide: Travis Boak. Chad Wingard, Hamish Hartlett (DEF)
    Hawthorn: Sam Mitchell, Luke Hodge, Liam Shiels, Jordan Lewis
    Richmond: Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio (DEF), Dustin Martin (I know), Nathan Foley
    Gold Coast: Gary Ablett, Michael Rischitelli, Jared Brennan (FWD)
    St Kilda: Leigh Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes, Brendon Goddard (DEF), Jack Steven

    I know I won’t be picking Dustin Martin. Way I see it, you should probably only take one speculative mid pricer who may have a breakout year in the midfield. For me that’s Rory Sloane, but you could also select players like Jack Ziebell, Jack Trengove, Mitch Duncan and Ryan Bastinac.

  • Third year rule, lock n load!

  • Seeing as Scott Thompson is currently my 5th mid, I’ll pass :)

    • If you’re stacking up in your mids, how’s your forward and backlines going to look? I’m not sure there’ll be enough depth in there to get you through…

      • Here’s my team, with smokie rookies ommitted:

        TEAM NAME: Evil Weevils
        DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, G. Birchall, B. Houli, S. Docherty, B. Ellis (W. Sierakowski, S. Morris)
        MID: D. Swan, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, S. Thompson, D. Shiel(T. Mitchell, M. Grigg)
        RUC: B. McEvoy, S. Mumford (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
        FWD: L. Franklin, N. Fyfe, T. Cloke, L. Adams, J. Brown, M. Panos, J. Porplyzia (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)

        About $5k remaining

  • Sorry Slim Dusty my current midfield is:
    Gary Ablett, Dale Thomas, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes and my smokie Rory Sloane.

  • With the offseason drafts/trades now complete. What is everyone thinking for the bench spots?
    DEF: Brandon Ellis, Darren Pfieffer
    MID: Dayne Zorko, Daniel Shiel
    RUCK: Jonathon Giles, Majak Daw/Orren Stephenson (not sure yet)
    FWD: Adaam Maric, Ahmed Saad

  • I wouldn’t be picking bock….

    been suspended for two games for giving information on playing in forward line.
    rnd 24
    Why couldn’t he have learnt from H.Shaw………….

  • Personally I dont think the mid field is a place to bugger around with picking players in your initial team at Martins price/potential. In my view pick 3 or 4 howitzers, a V1 weapon that may change the tide, some experimental weapons on the battleground and bench. Big guns in the mid field for me.

  • Midfield is : G. Ablett jnr, T. Rockliff, S. Mitchell, M. Murphy, S. Thompson, T. Greene
    How does it look? any suggestions?

  • Marin is going from strength to strength.

    I heard one of the Richmond guys on tv say that his neck tatt says,
    ‘If you can read this, I just put my hand through your chest.’

  • Good call on MID/FWD by me… despite saying it wouldn’t happen! Haha.

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      • Biggest lock, might have to pass on buddy to have the cash for all the new young gun forwards. He has a real tough draw early anyway so might not be a terrible move

    • Martin getting DP is God’s way of making up for Gibbs loosing DP. Ahmen!

      Martin is locked in a Swiss bank with the Nazi gold. He ain’t going nowhere.

  • Has now become the biggest lock in Dream Team history!!

  • Lockity Lockity Lock!

    Robinson, Fyfe, Zaka, Beams, Sidebottom, Martin…..da new kids on the block folks

  • im sorry but dusty as a mid/fwd is crap.

    yes he will be a lock no doubt but VS are making this game too boring.

    if dusty remained just a mid, you would have had to have some balls to pick him in your initial squad. a risk v reward kinda thing. if he had a huge breakout 3rd year and increase his average, you would have been laughing.

    now as a fwd aswell, even if he holds his 2011 average (which he should do without much doubt) he will be a very good scoring fwd.

    now it is a risk not to pick him.

    • Well said!

    • Just to clarify, VS aren’t making the game easy by making Dusty a MID/FWD. Champion Data put players into position for their official stats of the game. VS replicate these, with no changes. CD don’t make positions with DT in mind. They base them on stats and % of stats where they get them.

      • Well said !

      • Cool, thanx for that.
        Jim didn’t say anything about making the game easy- just boring.
        DT will never be easy….lol
        I never considered him for mid spot, but it’s hard too overlook the young gun for fwd spot.
        Again, many thanx for the explanation.

        • Yeah. Sorry. I mean boring, and easier as some are saying around the place… but meaning that VS aren’t the ones to blame. Calvin and I actually spoke last night about maybe adding a price premium to DPPs now that the game is more reliant on them and how they are seen as making the game ‘easier’ or ‘boring’. Maybe something for 2013?!

          • Absolutely! Great idea to add a price premium to DPP’s- Big Winner imho!
            Especially now that we can do the 3-way trady thingy.

          • warnie and calvin, your idea about adding a price premium to dpp is a great!!

            adds more strategy and people will think twice before forking out an extra (lets say) 20k on dusty because of his dpp.

            you have connections, do what you can!

  • ahh well who cares really.

    let me clarify though.

    the game itself is still very difficult- throughout the entire year, you are no doubt going to hit some shit patches with your team and whatnot

    but it is getting a hell of a lot easier to start with an incredibly strong side. every year you can fit more and more premiums in.

    the game is still difficult because everyone is on the same playing field and can pick an equally strong starting squad (albeit a few differences here and there)

  • ahhh yes. hopefully the magic number is increased by a huge amount.

    if it is… all will be good

  • I am impressed by the masochism being shown here!

    I haven’t been in the game as long as you guys, so I love every perk.

    Although, I was mentally getting ready for only two bench spots and twenty trades.

    Personally, I am going to just suck it up in the bye rounds and hope to come out with a team that can make, and win finals.

    Going for the overall is admirable, like being sober, I will attempt it one day.

  • Check out this video (especially 50 seconds in) Deledio & Martin Kicking practice

  • gonna look at this guy after the bye. Plays all 8 finalists in the first 10 rounds and looking at his stats versus these teams 7 of them are in his 11 lowest averaging teams to play against point wise. the tiges have a real easy 2nd half