The Plus Four: Round 20
The Dream is Over!
After 20 weeks of trying to turn the rabble that is the Warne Dawgs into a decent team, I have now been knocked out of the dreamteamtalk.com finals in straight sets. Warne Dawgs 2183 defeated by Collingwood 2281. Very sad. It has been an interesting ride (which we will hear about later on) but now it has come to an end… and I will be able to de-stress without the pressures of coaching my Dream Team each weekend.
I wasn’t the only one out in straight sets… destROY was also defeated on the weekend. That sets up our preliminary finals for next week:
Calvinator vs Fist Smashfight
Walkie Talkie vs Collingwood
I’m tipping a Calvinator vs Collingwood grand final… with Calvinator taking the chocolates.
Jobe, it’s called ‘football’
I’m an Essendon supporter and the only thing that game me some hope was the leadership (and ball winning ability) of our captain Jobe Watson. But what was frustrating was the fact he had 30 possessions yet only managed 84 points. That is almost impossible. Well, not if you handball it 28 times in that. Yes, that’s right… 28 handballs and only 2 kicks. I knew when I started with Jobe that he is a handball happy customer but that was ridiculous. Jobe, get the ball onto the boot mate and we’ll all be a bit happier!
Double check… then triple check your team
I made a rookie error this week. I forgot to make my captain Dane Swan. He was my number one pick (well, Calvin told me he was) but I forgot to click the ‘C’ on him after going off him last week with Leigh Montagna. So we all saw how that ended up: Swan 116 v Montagna 67 . Pathetic… FMDT.
It’s funny, I did a double check of my team just before lockout because I remembered I didn’t make Luke Shuey an emergency. So the moral of the story… like when I leave the house “phone, wallet, keys” you need to “captain, vice captain, emergencies” before you log out of your Dream Team!
Trading for Finals Glory
As we know, it is do or die this week in Dream Team. Obviously anything can happen over this week – teams on Thursday night will forever be an interesting prospect… with some players under big clouds, and may cop a bit from the Match Review Panel too. But once you are set – trade hard! Look at who might be some dead wood this week. If you can trade someone like a Ryan O’Keefe to someone who might actually score for you, then do it! Let everyone know what you’re thinking of in the comments.
Looking towards 2011
Word is that Virtual Sports are getting close to confirming the game structure of Dream Team in 2011. We have had a sneak peek at it and the way it is set up will add to the strategy of the game – and make a website like ours very important over the pre-season. It will be very interesting with how the roster will run… and what it will mean to team selection. Stay tuned!
First picked in 2011?
If you aren’t all over Drew Petrie as your first picked ruck next year… you either have a life, or are still concerned with DT this year. I’m neither, but he is locked. As soon as the season is over, we will be in DT2011 mode, so be ready to start thinking about locking players for next year!
I’m out… this game sucks!
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great read warnir i was knocked out this wk too. when will the preseason advice n stuff start do you reckon? cheeers
Warnie if you had Swan Captain would you have won?
Nope he would have lost by 50ish
I can’t remember but when this rounds Plus Four came out were the scores up for the game? Because I don’t remember them being there… So it makes me look like an idiot.
Yes they were lol….
I was thinking to myself ‘wow this kid is retarded and can’t work out simple DT captaincy issues’ lol…
Yeah scores were in the text above haha. Bad time of year for momentary lapse of concentration though, lucky it was off field
I guess I must have skipped it.
Yeah good thing It didn’t happen with my actual DT.
A lot of Crows look pretty good for next year.
Lock in Andy Otten (Crows) for the bench. Gibbs/Deledio in the backline. Robbie Gray to be considered again. Kurt Tippet again. Lock Bartel (will be underpriced). Swan locked. J.Brown locked. Patty Ryder in contention for 1st ruck spot.
Knocked out of one league by 4 bloody points. Was a massive favourite to take the league out, scored 2197.
In 2 others. Will be double trading Higgins-Harvey (to play 300th this week)/N.Riewoldt
Gibbs/Delids – locked. (provided VS put them as backmen)
Petrie – locked
J Brown + Voldt – locked. pending whether Brown can get fit over the off season.
Mitch Robinson – strongly considered by myself. I tried him this year after he had a gun pre-season, I dropped him when Carlton dropped him after his 28… However with one more pre-season could explode…
Joel Corey/Daniel Bradshaw/Hargrave all to be strongly considered.
joel corey, andy otten, jono brown, riewoldt, petrie all good chance for me next year, but who knows what will happen in the pre season.
another one everyone will get on is Liam Anthony, I think is priced should be discounted. correct me if im wrong
Next year: no-one ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE from West Coast, Port Adelaide, Carlton, Essendon or Brisbane except a cheap rook (like they’ll get a rook worth recruiting anyway). And that is a lock. Looking forward to mad Monday tomorrow…cheers Brownie and B Lake.
Agree with most but if Stanton gets DPP in defence I will be hitting that up. But choosing players from the in-form teams seems to be what its all about. Who wouldve though Daisy would be a gun
same deal with gibbs as dpp
Traded in Lake for Carrazzo two weeks ago… even after my daring captaincy of Riewoldt this week Lake completely f**ked it beyond repair. Worst part is that I could have saved $130k and gone Gilbert who has since scored two 100s and I would still be in the finals
Unlucky Warnie, it would have been great for you to get up.
Next year: RoK no way, Higgins No way
Montagna will be cheap after the end of the year.
Otten, Petrie, Anthony, Barlow, Corey, Ellis(surely break out year) all considering.
@ those who are saying such and such will be cheap, simply because they’re cheap now…
I’m pretty sure their prices are then set based on their average like it was at the start of the year… Therefore a few price drops for monty now doesn’t mean he’ll be super cheap, his price should get reset to a price for a player who averages 112.
and brown and voldt to that list aswell.
Brown & Voldt are currenlty avergaing about 10 points less this season then they were over the last couple, so they will be pretty cheap. Although Voldt is closing that gap quickly.
well cheap-er anyway
Ok let me point sumthing out. now if deledio is named as a backman next year that would be good.
BUT if you are a dream team coach (in the top 100,000) you would have Luke Hodge and Goddard as your first picks every year. now that means you would have to pay round about 350K+ for them at the start of next year. and as it stands now BJ is 450K and hodge is 350K, now add Deledio.. was around 380K about 2 weeks ago, now at 340K, now the way i see it, he will be in my backline next year no dout. but not at the start. i would use him as a target upgrade trade a track his progress as the year unfolds next year.
I’m top 2,500 and Goddard wasn’t in my backline at the start of the year
well you would have been top 1,000 if you had him. thats just crazy not having him!! hes in the same class as Swan and Ablett in my eyes
im top 1000 and didnt have goddard either
also didnt start with Ablett or Swan
well i just had a look at most of the top teams this year and it looks like 95% of the teams have goddard in there team. all i was trying to say is that he is one of the best backman you could ever want in your team and anyone without him is really not going so well and would have a better ranked team. now thats not to say im doing much better with him
im just saying.
Btw. “jigojitoku” would you mind telling me your team name so i may have a look? Mine is “idk wtf.” with a full stop if you want to have a look.
Cheers
The only reason both of them were in my team is that Hodge was underpriced due to his poor form the year before. They will both be priced as premiums next year, so I’ll pick one up and wait for the other to drop in price.
this is a good point you make.. but i still think that you should pick them both at the start of the year, but if you pick one, id pick goddard first. more likly to play 22 game and at i high rate.
lol that was @Holzman not to “jigojitoku” haha.
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score: 42,651
round 20 score: 2,317
overall ranking: 785 of 322,757
I didnt get to watch much footy on the weekend (had the week of DT and still pumped out a 2377! Hope i didnt play my prelim a week early!). Anyways would love to know if there are any injury clouds or reports to key players to be aware of?
I went to the game on Friday night and saw Jolly with ice and my opponent this week has him so interested in that one??????
Cheers
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just a few i can name
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hey boys i know this is annoying but i need help on where i need to trade this week…
goddard hodge malceski enright gilbert waters strijik (bench- harbrow davis)
swan ablett montagna boyd bartel stanton (bench- critchton gysbets)
clarke trengove (bench sandilands mcnamara
chapman harvey giansiracusa goodes okeefe franklin riewoldt (bench- gumbleton watts)
help would be appricated!
depending on how many trades/cash you have, i’d get okeefe out, maybe for pav or jack ‘volt. You look pretty set otherwise.
steer clear of jacky, i’m a richmond fan and can see that he’s out of form at the moment! with st. kilda coming up next week, who knows how he’ll score! (however, port round 22 looks promising)
As les said all depend on how many trades/cash you have. If possible I would get Didak for ROK. If Harbrow isn’t back then prob trade him to someone like Gram etc
gumbleton for 77K and upgrade okeefe
hey guys 3 trades 10k in bank, will most likley win this week so im not worried. but i need to use a trade
my team is as follows
hodge, malcheski, waters, scotland, carrazo, fisher enright (davis, webberly)
swan ablett montagna pendelbury bartel hayes (gyspets, mcneilDDP)
ROK, j brown, buddy, pavlich, gia didak (bitchcock and playfair) (sorry cant think of the others im at school and cant log on)
what do i do with my trades?
steve j my other foawrd
Downgrade one of your bench players to a cheap rookie
for instance gysberts or webberly > rookie
and earn some money
who’s a good sideways trade for okeefe if any?
Can somebody please help me?
I have just come off a week off now i’m looking to double trade to make my side better.
Here is my side with 2 trades left and 100k left in the bank.
Backs – Goddard (vc), Hodge, Scotland, Enright, Malceski, Waters, H. Shaw. (Henderson, Strijk)
Midfield – Swan (c), Ablett, Montagna, Boyd, Bartel, Mitchell. (JKT, Gysberts)
Rucks – Sandilands, Hille (Warnock, McNamara)
Forwards – Chapman, Goodes, Didak, R. O’Keefe, Podsiadly, J. Brown, N. Riewoldt (Gumbleton, Hitchcock)
Okay here are a few trades I’m thinking about -
Option 1 – Shaw to Lake and Mitchell to Judd (thats the one I like the most)
Option 2 – Brown to Pavlich and Mitchell to Judd (only if Brown is still out)
Option 2 – Brown to Thomas and Mitchell to Judd (only if Brown is still out)
Option 4 – Shaw to Lake and JTK or Gysberts to midfield rookie (for back up)
Option 5 – Mitchell to Judd and JTK or Gysberts to midfield rookie (for back up)
Even if Sandilands doesn’t come back I am happy with Warnock’s scores.
Why are you so keen on going Mitchell to Judd? not much of an improvement there.
Lake looked like he was playing with an injury on the weekend also.
I would leave Mitchell and go JKT down to a playing mid rookie and either J Brown or Podsiadly up to a Harvey/ Gia /sylvia
the form he is in picking up schneider would be a good unique trade. cheap too.
love the idea of the schneider trade! especially with playing richmond next week!
Missus has had Schneiderman all year, turning out to be a great player for the fwdline. She beat me in a round for the first time this year, her score was 295th overall which is pretty bloody good for her first season. She did however have something like 9 trades to go with only 5 rounds to go so double trading had given her a pretty decent team now!!!
Bad luck Warnie.
In my league, minor premiers & 3rd, both got knocked out in straight sets!
Lock & load for DT 2011- no H.Shaw!!!!!!
+1
Anyone else hoping that Pods vs WCE @ skilled could be X-factor for Grand Final?
Just gotta make it past this week; likely GF opponent obv traded pods for Roo.
Ive got one trade left and 420K to spend on a midfielder
I allready have Swan, Ablett, Hayes, Selwood and Mitchell
I am thinking its between Harvey (will smash the eagles this week), Bartel (under priced for his average and showed a bit of form for his 107 on the weekend) and Montagna (the pick of the bunch but looks really sore and may get rested)
Who would you pick?
Monty is good. What about Chappy? Or Risky Telli
Bartel…
JimBob won’t get rested and will have a big 2 weeks… He cruised to that 107.
You watch Selwood have a rest this week and Jimmy pump out a 140…
Higgins is likely to miss this week and next week
Haha replied to the wrong comment..
With one trade left, I hope that Brown is back next week or I’m copping a donut. In case he isn’t back, any good forward options for $337,300? Forward line at the moment is: Gia, Goodes, Boomer, Pav, ROK, Buddy, Brown (Jaensch, D.Stewart)
I can’t see Browndog playing again this season.
+1
Not a lot around that price range
Mitch Mortan looks to be playing in the midfield now and has averaged over 100 for his past 4 games, would be a brave move though.
Bob Murphy is more consistant at getting 80′s but not much more
Or you could take a punt on a Milne, Gray, Betts having one of there good games
You would be very brave to pick Mitch Morton! But balls of steel win DT grand finals!
even morton is better than a zero though…
Here is a list of possible options based on recent form or potential to score big. None of these names are ideal, but I have to take one if Brown’s out for the season. I’ll probably research these names later and post it somewhere, but does anyone have any information on any of these guys?
(Format will be Name, Avg., Last 3)
Mitch Morton, 72, 101; Robert Murphy, 79, 85; Brent Staker, 74, 93; Shaun Higgins, 82, 68; Jeff Garlett, 72, 104(Last 2); Mathew Stokes, 78, 64; Stephen Milne, 73, 95(Last 2); Jack Riewoldt, 83, 51; Cameron Mooney, 71, 75; James Podsiadly, 82, 63; Kurt Tippett, 63, 71 (108 last round).
Any opinions?
Higgins… hopefully gets a rocket up his backside and pulls out a big 1 this week… he’s due.
Higgins wil most likely miss the next 2.
Also sweating on the JBrown. Hmm!! just noticed someone mentioning Mitch Morton’s recent form…could be a unique swap. Thoughts?
Higgins is featured low down the list. He can pump out a big score. i wonder whats going on with him lately.
3 trades 10k
i was thinking webberly –> cameri
then either
1. carrazo –> gilbert
or
2. ROK–> riewoldt
or
3. only use one because i have ablett swan montagna bartell hayes who could all be rested
or j.brown to riewoldt
Get Roo…
He has potential for the big 120 score (so does ROK too i guess, but he’s just not getting the job done)
You’d probably rather upgrade Carrazzo but i think getting Roo is a bigger PPG advantage (and a good X factor to have in the finals)
Upgrade Brown before Rok i reckon…
I never thought id say this this year but FMDT. im 14th and score 2290… and drop 4 spots to 18th overall. A big FUCK YOU to Daniel Giansiracusa and Mitch Clark. I kept you through all your shit scores because i knew you could fire. I sold Gia before round 17 and have a look at what he has done in the past 4 weeks. i swap mitch clark to paddy ryder before round 15 and since then he’s been going great. At this stage i was 6th overall and looking for something that could get me the Toyota. The dream is officially over. FMDT!
That is a pretty bad ‘bad beat’ story… well done for getting so close.
Did you upgrade your team fairly quickly this year? That’s what it looks like a lot of the top teams have done… I went a bit slower and now have the best of the best in each position, but only ranked about 1200.
I’m getting big scores now, but have suffered with overall ranking…
Top 100 is a great effort, top 20 is brilliant and it takes a heap of luck when you are at that point.
I’ve pushed back into the top 1000 after dropping out a couple of weeks back due to some stupid (in hindsight) trading and I’m happy to finish where I am (hopefully with 3 trades and 140k I might crack top 500). But to finish where you are is pretty impressive!!
Yeah i did upgrade fairly quickly. You cant score points with trades sitting in the bank. Traded to avoid a donut all year and it paid off. Also started with all the gun players like swan ablett goddard boyd hodge. crucial trade was getting in chappy for riewoldt when he went down because i thought he was the only option to actually improve my team. Whats funny is that i actually am the coach of another team that is now ranked 10th overall haha. Hall vs Staker. so i have 10th and 18th. Who says people from Sydney dont know their AFL??
Ben Cousins is retiring :’(
While it is moot, I play you this week Warnie in our Cash league.
Should be a good game!
What an awesome week for my team… 2447 big ones and i played Higgins on the field instead of Rockliff.
I’d been playing Rocky but thought i’d give Higgins a run and he disappointed. Missed out on 51 points which would have got me the 4th best etam of the week, instead 30th.
Unfortunately i was only playing a team where every player was N/A so hoping i didn’t peak too early.
Next year i reckon i will load up on the backline and play rookies through the middle + Swan. Hodge, Goddard, Gibbs, Deledio down back.
The mids this year have fluctuated so much (apart from Swanny) so you’ve had a chance to pick them all up pretty cheap…
What do others think of this?
Always been my gameplan and always finished top 1000. You’ll find a lot more players who score 100+ in the mids as opposed to Def/Fwds. So basically, you stock up in those possies, then upgrade your mids when a prem like Joey or Bartel drops in value.
just a few ideas for next year
2 rookies in backline?
3 rookies in the mid?
4 mid pricers around the place
and the rest guns?
good structure?
and gray+rioli next year?
and may i just query what your team looked like at the start of the year?
I can’t believe I’m still playing Hunt in the backline!! Time to upgrade that crap, looking for someone who is decent value, have 3 trades and about 140k in the bank. Already have Fisher, Gilbert, Goddard, Hodge, Waters, Enright. Who is my next best option?
Also, with JB play this week for his 200th?
scotland or kelly would be conventional. but i reckon go with waite. only gone below 90 once in his last 10 games.
1 trade 121k
My team was all done then comes injurys
Apparently Higgins is out until finals
Will brown be back this week
Is Chappy gonna get suspended
and guess whos my cover for those 3… LEON DAVIS
So at the moment im organising to trade out higgins i can swap him with okeefe in the midfeild
and trade to which of these OR any other mid/forwards less than 421K
J Montagna Last week 67 last 3 ave 93 Last 2 Games Richmond 146, 85, 50 Adelaide 151,118, 127
J Bartel Last week 107 Last 3 ave 95, Last 2 Games Carlton 116 87, 115 West Coast 116, 111, 122
S Johnson Last Week 115 Last 3 ave 96 Last 2 Games Carlton 35, 35, 163 West coast 80, 62, 115
D Giansiracusa Last Week 133 Last 3 Ave 128 Last 2 games Essendon 60 112 53 Sydney 56 126 66
Would really appreciate some thoughts Playing my little brother this week and really dont want to loose
monty or gia in my opinion… but one is kinda out of form and the other has rollercoaster form… kinda hard to pick and finals time in dt always rewards those who gamble
get Hayes or Monty they play Adelaide in round 22 and Richmond this week so will smash out huge numbers.
CHAPMAN GONNA PLAY
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100485/default.aspx
Bad luck Warnie, I know what it is like as I am out in straight sets and I am bitter.
Now I just gotta see out the rubbish leagues.
What is with you giving us a sniff of next year’s set up without any details?
Stop being such a teaser and let us in on it!!!!!!!!
Hey guys I have 2 trades and 107K
Weak links is Hurley and Hall what is the better trade options..
Hurley-Waite or Gilbert and Hall-Daisy or Richie Douglas (X factor)
I reckon most of you will say Thomas but Douglas is starting in the middle and is capable of some huge scores now that Vince is out (135 on wk end) and is Gilbo more consistent then Waite??
Cheers
Gilbert and douglas now that vince is out he’ll be playing more in the middle i would think
+1
Douglas for sure as he will play more in the middle with Vince out the only problem is Adelaide play Collingwood and Saint Kilda in thier last two matches. Risky……
HOLD HALL. Dons and Swans to come. Dominated agaisnt his old side last time, loves playing the Bombers.
im locking in petrie hodge hayes goddard swan voldt for next year
who should i get rid of, j brown or ROK
J.brown
holy crap that was a long painful process to register for this site. why did i have to sign up for a gravatar account and a wordpress account?
anyway can someone please explain to this moron why everyone wants to trade ROK? i can see no mention of any injury or suspension troubles on afl.com.au, fanfooty.com.au, the sydney site, or the herald sun sports section.
hes shit? 62 ave in last 4
he’s been tagging the last couple weeks aswell. so no sign it will turn around. also playing through injury.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/swans-crave-comfort-of-home/story-e6frf9jf-1225902792444
But who to trade ROK to? most people already have the “good” forwards… now that every decent team jumped back on to Riewoldt.
Got 1 trade left and wanna upgrade Browny (if not playing this week) or ROK.
Nathan Bock gone to GC. Source: Hutchy
Absolute must haves for next year:
Defence: Gibbs, Goddard, Hodge, Lake
Midfield: Swan, Montagna, Boyd, Bartel
Forwards: Ablett, Chappy, Reiwoldt
If you start your team with these players, and nail the rookies, mid-pricers, you will come top 100.
My big mistake this season is getting too many non-premium, but pretty good players (e.g. Higgins, Gia, Carrazo etc).
ablett forward line ay ANDY OTTEN AND LIAM ANTHONY shal be guns
I dont know how you are going to afford all of those at the start. I have gone off Bartel and like Pendles and Joelwood more. Would like to see Ablett up forward but is that possible?
I had thought of Chappy in the midfield as a DPP.
drummond next yr?
dual position midfield players are overated, since they are a waste of gun midfielder space
Fuck you’se all
i scored 2237 points and oppn. scored 2352
f**k this bullshit