Chook’s Rooks – Round 4

Posted by Chook on 20/4/10 • Categorised as Chook's Rooks

Anyone read the book JPod, by Douglas Coupland? It’s a bit weird, but plenty awesome. I don’t know if James Podsiadly is weird at all, but he’s plenty awesome. Awesome enough to bring him in for an under-developed cash cow? That’s the burning question facing those who spurned the Geelong forward and his Brisbane buddy Tom Rockliff from their original squads.

After missing the opening two rounds, JPod, T-Rock and Carlton midfielder K-Luc (too much, right?) have produced eye-catching DT scores over rounds 3-4 to be on the verge of very big pay days. But before we get to the tasty two-gamers, let’s have a look to see if there’s anyone ripe for the picking in the three-or-more games bracket.

Three-or-more gamers

Your dreams of finishing the year with a midfield six of Ablett, Swan, Bartel, Montagna, Stanton and Dal Santo (or something equally kick-arse) are never going to be realised if you cash in your cows for anything less than $100k profit. You’d be hoping for quite a bit more than that, in fact. But DT’s an evil beast at times. While you’re hanging around waiting for your rookies to gradually appreciate in value – $5k at a time – downgrade targets with the potential to make much more keep whizzing past. The trick is knowing when to jump on the gravy trains, cause there’ll be nothing but crapola left when they’re gone.

The choice is an easy one in the backline, with all of the three gamers (here I’m excluding Jackson Trengove, cause you’re mad if you picked him anywhere other than the ruck) still boasting negative breakevens. Richmond’s Ben Nason has got some way to go in particular, with his past three scores of 68, 70 and 78 giving him a BE of -19, despite already rising $86,600. Freo’s Alex Silvagni and Brisbane’s Matt Maguire are in a similar position.

Rucks make for rubbish cash cows, so I’m not even going to mention Carlton’s Robbie Warnock or Trengove again unless they start pumping out 70s and 80s, which is as likely as Calvin’s captain not doing a hamstring this week.

There’s cause for concern in the midfield, with seemingly rolled-gold rookie Dustin Martin so far failing to reproduce his outstanding pre-season form. Martin has made just $47k on his starting price and travels to WA with his Tigers teammates this week sporting a BE of 32. Concern, not panic, is all it should be, though. While we were all expecting more at this point, stick with Martin for a while longer yet. A few 70s will force his BE back down and start bringing the dough that we so desperately need before off-loading his under-performing arse. And the rest of him. Fremantle midfielder Michael Barlow should be back to his high-scoring ways against the Tigers, so his BE of 43 should be smashed out of the park. Other popular rookies Jack Trengove, Tom Scully, Anthony Morabito and Lewis Jetta also take positive Bes into round 5, but none of them are high enough to start considering a downgrade.

Scully was one of the round’s best performed three-or-more gamers, along with Demons teammate Rohan Bail, Geelong’s Mitch Duncan and North’s Ryan Bastinac. Apart from round 2, when the Roos were slaughtered, Bust-a-nut has been delivering very nice scores. Good boy.

The forward line is where most will be tempted to use a trade to make a downgrade. Not only is this the part of the field were many a medium-pricer is doing a number on their coaches, but a few of the three-or-more gamer rookies are already struggling, too. One of the most promising forward rookies, Port’s Cameron Hitchcock, has started to go off the boil. He managed just 32 points last week, nudging his BE up to 17. Essendon’s Scott Gumbleton scored only one point better against West Coast, making his BE 21. That means he’ll go backwards in price if he does as poorly as he did in round one, when he scored a paltry 17 points. Surely, surely that won’t happen again, but the low level of points being pumped out by these two is a worry. You’ll only get $50-75k from a downgrade trade to JPod or T-Rock, but there’ll be plenty pulling the trigger on one of those trades this week. Unless you’ve got fwd-mid option Duncan down here, the only other forward to have featured in three or more games is Carl Peterson, who looks to be travelling okay, despite having his lowest score thus far in round four. You’d think selection pressure would be a bigger worry than Gumby-like scores for this Hawks rook.

Two gamers

Obviously, JPod and T-Rock are the two attracting all the attention this week. Pods took the opportunity granted to him when Cam Mooney got himself rubbed out to such an extent that some reckon he’s now ahead of Tom Hawkins in the pecking order at the Cattery. I don’t know whether that’s more of an indictment on T-Hawk than praise of Pods, but either way it’s clear that the 28-year-old has made a big impression. Whether the Geelong coaches see it that way is another thing, so you’ve got to at least consider the long-term chances of both JPod and T-Rock, who looks set to face selection battles on a consistent basis at the deep Den, before drafting them in. By the numbers, Podsiadly has scored 85 and 115 and comes in at the basement-bargain price of $77,800, while Rockliff has the palindromic scores of 78 and 87 for a slightly inflated price of $101,100.

If you really don’t think Martin is going to come good, then Carlton midfielder Kane Lucas might be your best bet. The 12^th pick in last year’s draft, Lucas has knocked up scores of 67 and 93 in his first two. Another option is Essendon’s short speedster Travis Colyer, who has scored 68 and 73 and costs almost $25k less than Lucas ($113,500 to $89,500). Of course, fellow Bomber Ben Howlett remains on the cusp of a price rise too, but needs to get over his ankle injury and back into the side first. The Bombers have a third rookie in this bracket, although he’ll cost a little more due to having been taken in the top 10. Jake Melksham costs $121,500, with scores of 57 and 59 first up.

Finally, there are a couple of defenders in the two-game bracket in Adelaide’s Chris Schmidt and Hawthorn’s Ben Stratton, but, as we said earlier, the fact that the backline cash cows are no where near maturing counts against them. For the record, Schmidt has scored 81 and 60, while Stratton has notched a less-impressive 62 and 41.

One gamers

The Connors booze-and-biffo saw the Tigers debut three rookies against Melbourne – Matthew Dea, Troy Taylor and David Astbury – but none of them managed to light up the DT scoreboard with scores of 30, 46 and 51 respectively. All are listed as forwards in DT, like Port’s Daniel Stewart, who also made an underwhelming start (33). A little better was West Coast first gamer Ashton Hams with 48, but he was overshadowed by fellow backs Phil Davis, of Adelaide, and Simon White, of Carlton. All of Carlton’s scores have to be taken with a grain of salt given they played the officially woeful Crows, but White’s first-up 74 is impressive nonetheless. Davis showed why he was so popular in January with a decent 69.

Speaking of grains of salt – you might want to take my rookie advice well seasoned, too. My rookies copped a hiding from Calvin’s rookies in my big league loss on the weekend, while my captain took his to the cleaners. Go figure.

If you’re downgrading this week, let us know who’s getting the chop and who’s coming on board.

1,221 Comments

Froggy
April 21, 2010 • 12:49 pm

I hope Roy has paid Warnie his $50 bucks for getting on the tv at Aurora Stadium when the hawks had a training session against Richmond
- roy
  April 25, 2010 • 6:16 pm
  
  he got it!
- roy
  April 25, 2010 • 6:16 pm
  
  ..and where were u other fags who didn’t chip in?
cordy
April 21, 2010 • 1:04 pm

im happy with my kickass bench without making any trades this year: mcguire, nason, bastinac, shuey, rockliff podsiadly.

Now the question is wheather to start one over my shitkickers eg. mayne, dangerfield, medhurst, hunt and buy another bench player.

Thoughts?
- Young GUNS
  April 21, 2010 • 1:12 pm
  
  put your bench on the field and the other on the bench and the week before they go backwards trade them. Or when your rookies are fully ripe upgrade your non keeper mid price players to Guns.
Bazinga
April 21, 2010 • 1:51 pm

Hey guys and girls i have Ballantyne, Hall, and Gumby i think all three are duds looking to get rid of Balla and / or Hall but which one? Does anyone know balla’s TOG or if he got injured in the last match at all and had to spend time on bench or does he just suck balls.

I already have Pods and TRock so neither of them are an option.

Thanks for your help.
- Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)
  April 21, 2010 • 1:54 pm
  
  Hold onto all of them I say for now if you already have the I-Pod and t-Rock. Ballantyne will have a field day against the tigers this week over in Suby, Anzac Day might bring out the best in the Gumby and Bazza, well you grabbed him for a reason, im sure he is due for a cracker! Save your trades!
- Bazinga
  April 21, 2010 • 1:57 pm
  
  Thanks mate. I hope your not wrong…
- Jimbo
  April 21, 2010 • 9:39 pm
  
  Wow, you’re a bit silly. Ballantyne had one bad game and you are considering trading him? He is going to rise plenty. And Hall got a ton last week. Hang onto your trades and use them when you really need them. (Although I must say your forward line is preeeety awful).
Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)
April 21, 2010 • 1:52 pm

Quick one anyone…… Whats Cox’s breakeven this week? Is he about to go up in price again or is there another fall in there waiting to happen? Wanna get him, but wondering if i should wait a week.
- eeepobreci
  April 21, 2010 • 1:53 pm
  
  106
- eeepobreci
  April 21, 2010 • 1:54 pm
  
  wait 2 weeks, comes up against sandi rnd 6!
  - Leigh (aka Cousins Coke n Ice)
    April 21, 2010 • 1:56 pm
    
    Ha ha! True that! 106…..hopefully this week he has an 80 or something like that. He is very tempting right now at his price. Nick nack paddy whack wont be as consistant as Coxy once he has hit form (Have a funny feeling he already has!).
    - eeepobreci
      April 21, 2010 • 2:01 pm
      
      well thats my plan. hoping he scores 80s max in next 2 games, then rnd 7, i roll out the red carpet!!!!! Could be worth, $350,000 ish, to quote Bruce…..”DeeeLICIOUS!”
      - simo
        April 21, 2010 • 2:19 pm
        
        im not convinced hes fully fit yet… nw he will be around 366 and that is very tempting… but Hille seems to be improving every game… come finals id rather have big cox though so i will wait for two good scores in a row
Monash
April 21, 2010 • 2:00 pm

I’m flying along well in my leagues but tossing up bringing in pod and t-rock for hall and ziebell straight on the ground. Leaving gumby and d stewart on the bench. That’ll leave me plenty in the bank for upgrades in weeks to come.

Risk is I could easily end of with those 4 rookies on the bad end of selection and have two zeros in my forwards.

If that were to happen, how do you nominate say M Duncan to play as a forward?
- eeepobreci
  April 21, 2010 • 2:09 pm
  
  hes only 18 yr old kid, has the goods, but in the high possession team of geel id say 72 average.
  that number just popped into my head. (-:
  Ultimately up to you, i’d go 1 or the other.
  Hall still capable of marks and goals, bullies had 3 tough games, coll/haw/bris.
  Ziebell, inconsistency is annoying, seems to go missing, but can also accumulate handy pts in burts.
  - Angus
    April 21, 2010 • 4:18 pm
    
    Bazza played an awesome game last week but only racked up 55 dt points
    - Monash
      April 21, 2010 • 5:58 pm
      
      Thats why I think he needs to go. If he is kicking 4 goals and only scoring 55pts, its not good enough. I think his 109 the week before was a flash out of the pan.
      - Chrispy
        April 21, 2010 • 7:32 pm
        
        Yeah Hall has been a pain in the ass this year. I think he wouldve scored better last week if the ball had’ve went into his forward 50 in the last quater. Looking to get him out thou. Straight swap with pods at this stage.
- Steve
  April 21, 2010 • 2:18 pm
  
  To play M Duncan as a FWD you would need a FWD/MID in your FWD line to swap for him. You would not have a net gain of forwards though so it would be pointless. I’d strongly advise against having a bench of Gumby/Stewart with J-Pod and T-Rock on field but it’s your call.
  - Monash
    April 21, 2010 • 2:29 pm
    
    Forgot I need a fwd/mind to switch Duncan with.
    
    Why do you strongly advise against? Just because of the risk of 4 rookies?
    
    Thanks for the opinions.
    - Blue boys
      April 21, 2010 • 2:41 pm
      
      Big risk having 4 rookies up fwd imo. Easy to cop 0′s.
      - Ingoes
        April 22, 2010 • 9:56 am
        
        I’ve had Hitchcock, Duncan, Gumby and Roberts from the get-go. Haven’t looked like getting a doughie.
        Gumbleton will play if he’s fit. End of story. If Hitch gets dropped then he may as well have hit his ceiling (a disappointingly low ceiling) and I’m probs turfing him for Pods anyway.
        
        Obviously I don’t know for a fact that Pods has tenure in the AFL team but I reckon he’s in as long as he kicks at least a goal every game – and I reckon he will.
        
        Duncan’s been awesome and I can’t see him losing his spot either.
- d-dogg
  April 21, 2010 • 8:46 pm
  
  i am interested in trading sam wright down to rockliff
  and trading in jPod for Relton
  this will leave me witth 17 trades and 260,000 which i can use to upgrade ball to swan
  any thoughts?
Gazinator
April 21, 2010 • 2:09 pm

Guys, guys…. 100k cash out of rookie isn’t the target, its the bare minimum… Not something to overly stoked about.

I do understand that it’s hard to sift through the opinions when you’re new to it all, I wasn’t very good when I started a few years ago either. So some of you will have to ‘pee on the electric fence’ to learn I’m afraid. As you only ever going to do what you want to do regardless of the advice.
- Shane
  April 21, 2010 • 2:27 pm
  
  Gazzinator – I couldn’t of said it any better mate!! 100 K is a minimum, and remember that is 100 K increase in price. Selling Martin to Coyler for example would net 100 K in the bank, however we all have to remember that we paid 140+ K for Martin in the first place. Kathryn say’s hi by the way Gazz!!
Buster
April 21, 2010 • 2:22 pm

I’m thinking of trading Warren -> Pods/Rock and then using the cash to upgrade Cotchin -> Stanton/Boyd/Didak

Any thoughts?
- Nate Dogga
  April 21, 2010 • 3:50 pm
  
  Seems a good plan. I myself are considering a similar thing.
  - Harry
    April 21, 2010 • 6:14 pm
    
    Same here,with Medhurst or Zieball > Rockiliff of Pods
    then; Cothin > Swanny
alex
April 21, 2010 • 2:53 pm

help.

should I trade hitchcock or relton for pods ?
- d-dogg
  April 21, 2010 • 8:48 pm
  
  get rid of relton and keep spatchcock
beach skins
April 21, 2010 • 3:04 pm

for me- roo and tippet down to pods and t-rock. this will be my first two trades used. ill have a cool 539k in the bank to get swan and didak/chapman the following week. thats the plan for now anyway!
Gazinator
April 21, 2010 • 3:17 pm

@Shane

Spin out… My name is also Shane. You must be a sharp bloke haha.

Hi Kathryn =)
- Shane
  April 22, 2010 • 2:14 am
  
  I can tell from your previous posts, that you are a good bloke, with a good head on your shoulders. Thank you for supporting Kath’s comments on here also. Everyone who is talking footy and DT on here should be entitled to have their say and not be personally attacked. Unfortunately I opted to have 260 K cap space left in the team before round 1 so I had a poor start 1966, then 2030, then 2117….For a ranking of 15,000ish
  
  In my opinion, leaving this money in the cap before round 1 is not a great idea, but in the past it has worked ok. Kath’s team is doing well, she is showing me up this year.. which is not such a bad thing
heroic
April 21, 2010 • 3:22 pm

Gday guys,

What do people think of me downgrading Barry Hall to Rockliffe. Then being able to play Rockliffe or Podsiadly as my 7th forward.

Then next week I can upgrade Luke Ball and Christ Masten to Dane Swan and Lenny Hayes.

Thanks for your help!
- Shane
  April 22, 2010 • 2:21 am
  
  Its all about Break even’s, downgrading to Rockliff now means you get him at a good price before the change. However Brisbane have won their previous two games and Rockliff has been pretty fair. If Rockliff turns out being a regular in the side then it is a great move, particularly if he scores higher then Bazz.
  
  Does everyone remember Jaxon Barham from Collingwood last year?? Smashed it in his first few games, now where is he?? Brisbane’s flag chances are closing with an aging midfield (Black, Power etc). So a couple of bad games may see Cliff out, lets look at Primal from Bombers…. DT scores of 99 & 98 (from memory), then he gets dropped. Great DT scores doesn’t cement a person in the side.
  
  So ask yourself this? Do I think Rockliff will play 16 games this season? If the answer is yes then the Baz – Cliff trade is viable and will net you 180 K. Hope this helps
Hook
April 21, 2010 • 3:58 pm

I’ll start by answring anothers question before I ask mine

Heroic
By trading Hall to Rocky you probably wont lose too many points, may even gain a few. Plus the upgrades to Swan and Hayes are good ones. So if you haven’t used too many trades allready I would say it sounds like a decent plan.

now

I’ve got a piss poor midfield (Selwood, Mitchell, Masten, Kerr, Martin, Barlow)
It lost me my 1st league match and dropped me out of contention in the national rankings
I’m quite happy with the rest of my team

I know I should wait until my cashies fully rippen but I need to improve my mids asap or it might be too late to even make the league finals (its a competetive league and I want to beat my mates)

So I’ve come up with a 3 step process

1) Gumby to Pods and Kerr to Judd (2 trades)
2) Macguire to Davis for ~ 130k (1 trade)
3) Nason to Sheppard and Masten to Ablett (2 trades)

This well leave me with the Mids (Gablett, J Smooth, Mitchell, Juddy, Martin and Barlow)
also leave 12 trades = 4 upgrades and 4 for injuries

Future upgrade targets are Zeiball, Martin, Seaby, Balla or Barlow
- Hook
  April 21, 2010 • 4:06 pm
  
  I didn’t really ask a question then.
  
  So do think this is an ok plan? will 12 trades left after 8 rounds be enough?
  
  P.S love the site guys my 1st year playing DT and I am hoping the site and all the generous advice will give me the edge over my mates
- Angus
  April 21, 2010 • 4:09 pm
  
  i have the same problem.. KERR and i was thinking judd.. BUT he will be getting the tags why not pic another midfeilder from carlton who wont be getting taged. I’m gonna wait one week and leave kerr on my bench and see if juddy plays well he will be getting taged by lingy for sure (in my opinion ling is the best tagger in the league
  
  Gumby to pods sounds good and gives u some cash
  - Angus
    April 21, 2010 • 4:12 pm
    
    step 3 is good 2 dw so much about ur trades just dont make any more sidway ones and ull be fine
  - Hook
    April 21, 2010 • 4:22 pm
    
    My thinking of picking Judd is purely financial at the moment, I can do the trade with 2k to spare but not enough for Gibbs or Pendlebury
    
    I could wait a week but that would mean having Jetta on the ground for an avg of 60 odd and maybe another loss.
    I think Judd is enough of a gun to still rack up consistant points while getting tagged plus I love watching him play so its always good if I can barrack for him in my team also.
- McScoundrel
  April 21, 2010 • 4:22 pm
  
  Hook, are you talking about Phil Davis? Won’t he be lucky to play when Bock returns from injury or will someone else (Stevens?) make way for him on a permanent basis?
  - Hook
    April 21, 2010 • 4:26 pm
    
    Yeah I was thinking Phil Davis. He’s a 1st round draft pick that can play fwd or back and the way the crows are going they might as well blood some youngsters. Hoping he can stay in the team
    - the zohan
      April 21, 2010 • 5:17 pm
      
      Crows will be playing youngsters this year.
Angus
April 21, 2010 • 4:03 pm

I HAVE TO TRADE THIS ROUND as my subs are usless who do u think
k simpson, bgibbs, M murphy, c judd, (the thing with carlton players is they have all played crap teams) adelaide, richmond and essendon (brisbane) and the next 4 games r geelong, saints, collingwood and port

and then these gus
JJ Corey Pendlebery L Hayes all have drop alot in price

and finaly okeefe he had a great start but slowd down in the last 2 weeks 130, 123, 92, 91 he has 2 home games coming up might score better..

Kepping Seaby on this week they have west coast at home west coast r crap away. my other option was warnock but carlton has gellong
- Hook
  April 21, 2010 • 4:10 pm
  
  I really like ROK I think he takes a lot of marks and kicks a few goals also which can give him some really big games. Plus the dual positioning is handy.
  
  Before the season started I was really keen on Pendelbury but from the games I have watched he hasn’t had a lot of impact. Out of the other players I like Gibbs, gets a lot of kicks and marks around the ground and now Judd is back should have a little less pressure on him from taggers.
  - bilbo
    April 21, 2010 • 4:30 pm
    
    from what ive seen of gibbs, hes been playing as a half back/wing i havent seen him in one centre bounce yet this year. but ive only seen 2 of his games.
- jasonjjh
  April 21, 2010 • 4:13 pm
  
  there is a reason seaby got traded, simply cox and natinui are beter, and secondly i think mumford will be the number 1 ruck anyway. Cox and natinui are just warming up the only ruck who stands a chance is sandilands. (im not an eagle fan by the way)
  - Angus
    April 21, 2010 • 4:47 pm
    
    bthx ur right but its seaby or warnock
Bella
April 21, 2010 • 4:40 pm

Just a thought at this stage. But if hill continues to go up and Cox drops a bit but is on the incline – in a few weeks wayde skipper will return for hawks and is priced at about 95k and should get a game most weeks and although wont score high he will have the same role in your team as warnock does atm.

so traded out Hille, and warnock and hopefully the money they make will be able to get you Cox and then still have a reserve incase one of the rucks are out for a game.

Alot of If’s but could be perfect timing as i think skipper returns in 4 weeks which would be about the time cox will start to go on the incline
- Hook
  April 21, 2010 • 4:49 pm
  
  yeah not a bad plan, though after watching Cox last week I don’t think it will be too long before he’s back up to speed.
  With a break even of around of 100 this week against Seaby whos game he should know off by heart, and taking into consideration he scored a 99 last week, I don’t think he’s price will fall too much further.
Tooves
April 21, 2010 • 4:44 pm

Going to go Medhurst to Pods (only coz he is cheaper than Rockliff). Hopefully Ziebell and Hall will start going better but I don’t think Medhurst will. Dangermouse was only half fit last week and will improve as the Cows get back some players. Then Kerr to Swanny (I am dirty he got injured I still had high hopes for him).

Next week probably Ball to Judd. Juddy will get tagged but so do Hodge and Ablett and it hasn’t stopped them. I think people are forgetting how elite Juddy is after he carried injuries last year. This week will be the acid test but I think he will be right. Otherwise Jordan Lewis is starting to look pretty cheap.
- Ingoes
  April 22, 2010 • 10:05 am
  
  Judd doesn’t take enough marks for DT. Great to watch but a great game of football from him often doesn’t equal a great DT score.
maanco
April 21, 2010 • 4:58 pm

• Ryan Bastinac or Mitch Duncan? (getting rid of ball: reason for this is that i beleive he has reached his peak price and will only average 85 and i need money to upgrade amitage to a gun player)

• Leon Davis,Dane Swan, Brendon Goddard or Chris Judd? (getting rid of Armitage: reson for this is that he has very inconsistent games and i want to get in a gun player)
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 5:20 pm
  
  bastinac,
  
  and swan/goddard.
  
  goddard if your backline is shit.
  - maanco
    April 21, 2010 • 6:00 pm
    
    thanks for your help need any help
    by the way my back lines pretty good so probably pick swan but one other thing do you think there are any better rookies to pick other than the two i mentioned
    - Optimus Grimes
      April 21, 2010 • 6:26 pm
      
      i think bastinac is good, but havn’t had an extensive look at him, trangove has played well and averaged 70, without anyone noticing really (i mean no tags have been put on him like barlow). you probably have barlow, but he is getting a bit of attention. I dont think if you get bastinac you’d be dissapointed. He will make you money..
      
      Or you could a more attacking approach and take on kane lucas. I had him on my bench prior to the season starting, but he wasn’t named for round 1. but he has a 67 and 89 or something similar.. a decent average from a two gamer. I think he will be a good pickup, he wont cop the attention from the opposition, due to carltons good mids (judd, gibbs, murphy, carrazzo, even mclean would get a tag before lucas).. so he could be a walk up 70 every week, who knows? I’d have a decent look into his stats..
      - Benny
        April 21, 2010 • 7:20 pm
        
        I wouldn’t get Bastinac, he’s already risen nearly 100k in price i think. I definitely agree with Optimus, go with Lucas, or maybe Schmidt from Adelaide or Howlett if he gets a game. Cost 100k less than Bastinac and will probably rise as much in price as Bastinac will from the price he is at atm.
James
April 21, 2010 • 5:11 pm

should i down grade hitchcock to pods pocket the 70K and watch as pods tears it up and nets another 150K
or
save the trade and wait for hitchcock to slowly gain cash as i have only 18 trades left
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 5:25 pm
  
  thats my dilemma,
  
  im leaning to trading hitchcock>pods.
  
  my rule of thumb is, only trade if its gonna net your more than 20 points a week or pocket you at least 100k.
  
  the trade obviously satisfies the latter of the rule.
  
  I have barely touched my trades. (using one – riewoldt), and have 185k in the bank and still crashing the 2000points a week. this trade will give me that extra cash that can turn a judd into a reliable swan or similar. maybe helping me out at the end of the year. plus a higher scoring bench player, if he gets a game.
  
  Even if pods gets dropped in a month – say 4 rounds, that is 4 rounds of significant increases compared to hitchcock and will allow me to upgrade earlier and reap the extra points of a premium upgrade earlier.. so indirectly satisfying the first part of the rule.
  
  am i crazy?
- Thommy
  April 21, 2010 • 5:26 pm
  
  Well Pods is going to go up more in one week then Hitchcock has in 4.
  
  It is a very tempting trade, I allready have Pods but if I didn’t I would definetely be considering it. Plus if you need Pods to fill in as a sub or even hold down a position as your 7th forward he is going to do much better then HitchCock.
  
  Thats a tough call, you wouldn’t be wrong either way. How are your other cows going? If they are increasing nicely I would probably save the trade but if not I’d probably lean towards doing the trade
  - Optimus Grimes
    April 21, 2010 • 5:36 pm
    
    i orignally went for a large no of mid rookies, starting 4 in my mids. and loading my backs and forwards and rucks with premiums.
    eg. my forward line is: Brown, ROK, Pavlich, Higgins, Rockliff, Hitchcock (soon to be Pods), and Gumby
    
    my mid rookies are going nicely, the worst of them being martin and jetta on my bench. so they are going to earn me money, but none faster than the pod (providing he continues.. he could very well do a seaby). I am prepared for pods to do nothing, and I can cope, but if I take this risk and use a golden trade. It could set my team up quite well. especially providing most of team are keeper material – bar the rookies who i could eventually keep (eg. barlow bastinac and the sort).
    - Thommy
      April 21, 2010 • 5:56 pm
      
      I kinda did the opposite
      
      Stacking my mids with Gablett, Boyd, Del Santo and Gibbs I played 2 rookie starters in Martin and Barlow and two on the bench with Jetta and Shuey.
      
      I have a good backline but have gone light in the fwd line with Brown, Pav, Kennedy, Franklin, Hall, Mayne and dangers. (pods & Gumby)
      
      I was hoping Hall, Mayne and Dangers would go up more then they have but there is still time.
      
      I will need to upgrade my forwards in a few rounds. I have relied on my bench players to go up in value and trade from all positions to upgrade my fwds.
      
      Optimus -I think the Hitchcock to Pods trade will be good for you as you can pocket the cash and with the price increase can upgrade the rookie mids earlier as you were saying before. As the mids are the highest scoring position the earlier the upgrade the better IMO
    - baconb
      April 21, 2010 • 5:58 pm
      
      Heres what I’m saying and take notice, I think Andrew knows what I am going to say.
      
      NO BRAINER
      
      PODS increase will be greater than Hitchcocks 4 weeks? Stupid comment. Take each week at a time, however being realistic.
      
      Pods should go up 80K plus after this round even with a shit round. FACT
      
      Trading Hitchock for Pods is a NO BRAINER
      
      IF you haven’t been burning tades. I have only used one so I will take that and upgrade Shuey to Judd / Gibbs / Swan the week after.
      
      Thank you
      - Optimus Grimes
        April 21, 2010 • 6:30 pm
        
        I dont think you correctly read it hey.. He meant pods increase will be larger this week, than hitchcocks total rise over 4 weeks.. not in 4 weeks.
        
        so that is taking this week into account, the one week at a time.
- maanco
  April 21, 2010 • 5:34 pm
  
  depends how many keepers you have
  
  the only reason why you would trade hitchcock out is because what pods scores pods would then have to be a keeper
  - Optimus Grimes
    April 21, 2010 • 5:39 pm
    
    why would he HAVE to be a keeper, why can’t he be a cash cow, just a better one than hitchcock..
    
    essentially the trade is cashing in a cow for another cash cow… just keeping the milked cash.
    - maanco
      April 21, 2010 • 5:56 pm
      
      because it would be a bit of a waste of trade unless your sure you have enough trades
      - SloppyJoe
        April 21, 2010 • 7:39 pm
        
        But you’re not using up any more trades than you would otherwise
Thommy
April 21, 2010 • 5:21 pm

I haven’t used any trades yet, I’m ranked about 1400

Was wondering if trading Joel Macdonald to Nason and Nic Nat to Cox was worth it.

Means I could put Maguire on the field who is scoring about the same as Macca and upgrade Nic Nat to Cox who is just about to go off. I don’t think he will drop too much more in price.

I’m not sure if it is me having an itchy trigger finger as I haven’t made any trades yet or if it is a logical trade.

What do you think?
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 5:30 pm
  
  i wouldn’t mate, you are sitting pretty at 1400 and have a chance of breaking through.
  
  the prices are derived from a 3-game rolling average. meaning cox’s last 3 games will determine his price.
  out of his last 3 games, he has only cracked the 100 once, with two mediocre games beforehand. this means if he cracks the ton this weekend, he will still have a 3 week rolling ave below 100k and still drop in price (his price is still higher than his 3 game average).. so id wait a couple of weeks at least for cox.
  
  as for cementing a spot for maguire in your backline is risky, he is prone to injury. he even copped a knock in one of his games this season. and i wouldn’t call nason reliable cover just yet… actually anyone at richmond isn’t reliable with half the team in and half the team out each week.. 3 new players were blooded last game.
  
  so as for your trades, i’d hold them for a while, if your sitting at 1400, you must be cracking through the 2000 each week and at this time, id pace yourself for the long ride home, and for your sake, hopefully upwards.
  - Thommy
    April 21, 2010 • 5:38 pm
    
    Thanks Optimus
    
    Sometimes you need some1 to talk sense to you when your thinking so much about what your team combinations could be, but have to sit there and wait. Damn itchy trigger finger making me stir crazy.
    - Optimus Grimes
      April 21, 2010 • 5:44 pm
      
      thats ok, i hope I helped. I have had the urge to trade, only cos i read so much about trading aswell. I have resisted. but some instances I think early trades can be worth it.
      
      I semi laughed at those that traded seaby in for clarke. (easy to say now, i know). I still have clarke nonetheless and I hope his premium tag can actually come through in premium scores..
      
      but the point is, it still made me think about doing the trade. just think, there is 22 rounds and we have only just 20 trades. thats 10 upgrades (providing you trade two per upgrade), and no injuries (which is unrealistic -> riewoldt).. not much room to move.
      
      good luck.
      - Ingoes
        April 23, 2010 • 8:12 pm
        
        Hey mate,
        
        Point 1 – I kept Clark too. Fingers crossed. If you do every trade you are tempted to do you are sure to fail.
        
        Point 2 – I personally think that a predicted average of two trades per upgrade is pessimistic. Many upgrades will require a downgrade of course, but if you have chosen good cash cows, let them grow nice and fat and time trades to underperforming guns well, you should have some change, so that every second or third upgrade only takes one trade.
- maanco
  April 21, 2010 • 5:39 pm
  
  well if i were you i would wait a bit longer and trade Joel Macdonald for hargrove and keep nicnat as a keeper but if you realy want cox wait another 1 or so and then get cox in
Hawthorn Supporter
April 21, 2010 • 5:33 pm

Does Hall to Pods and Ziebell to Rockliff sound like good trades? I will get plenty of cash to upgrade else where + I think they will score better then Hall and Ziebell and they will rise to about the same pricee.
- Hawthorn Supporter
  April 21, 2010 • 5:36 pm
  
  And even if they did start going badly they would only be on my field for a few weeks then i can upgrade gumbleton and hitchcock when i cash in my other cash cows when they max out in price.
  - Optimus Grimes
    April 21, 2010 • 5:37 pm
    
    i wouldn’t rock out all of rockliff/gumby/pods and hitchcock..
    
    thats asking for disaster.. especially when gumby and hitchcock arent doing anything,
    - Hawthorn Supporter
      April 21, 2010 • 5:40 pm
      
      But it would only be a few weeks and I would make lots and lots of cash.
      - Danger
        April 21, 2010 • 5:44 pm
        
        Well do it then and stop asking.
      - Hawthorn Supporter
        April 21, 2010 • 5:48 pm
        
        It was the first time I asked?
      - Danger
        April 21, 2010 • 6:09 pm
        
        You just sounded convinced.
      - Optimus Grimes
        April 21, 2010 • 6:42 pm
        
        whats the point of criticising for no reason danger?
        
        think about the number of trades you have man. if your wanting to definetly get them in, I’d trade in rockliff and pods for gumby and hitchcock and not have them all, rock and pods will get much larger price rises.. but itll cost you 4 trades to get them all out, which i hope your planning on doing if you get them all in.. (there maybe keeper bench cover in pods/rockliff. or even a starting 7th forward though)
Jetix
April 21, 2010 • 5:46 pm

I am considering trading gumby and hitchcock to pods and T-rock which gives me approx 190k in the bank to upgrade ball to a premium next week. Should i go ahead with this or just do one?
Ravalle
April 21, 2010 • 5:53 pm

Hi guys a little off topic but hey!!!

The Eliminator starts this week and just noticed my opponent for round 5 has been posted……

As this is my first DT year please forgive the rookie question!!!

Ok last round he scored 230 points less than me (1722 vs 1952)…..Up until now I have not wanted to trade until AT LEAST next week (I have made 2 trades so far 1 needed to be done and 1 was just plain f**king stupid…excuse the French but no other way to put it!!!)

Do I stick with my plan and hold my trades this week and possibly take another sub 2k round but be in a much happier place next week being able to make a couple of really good upgrades when my targets hit rock bottom next week (Possibly Hargrave…..Didak……Neon Leon those types)…..problem is what if my opponent trades away this week and knocks me out of the Eliminator FIRST WEEK! I mean had a look at his team and think mine is in alot better shape but one extra premium can do alot to a teams score!!

What to do What to do!!!!! I am that unsure it even crossed my mind for a fleeting moment to trade Beams up to a definite keeper this week!!!! COLLINGWOOD BLASPHEMY!!!!! lol plus just to spite me if i did trade him he would go out and win that ANZAC MEDAL!
- baconb
  April 21, 2010 • 6:00 pm
  
  You need to get some new words into your vocab.
  
  Such as NO BRAINER
  
  if you have someone who you want to trade DO IT.
  
  If you aren’t sure, DON’T TRADE.
  
  COME ON
  - Ravalle
    April 21, 2010 • 6:10 pm
    
    RIGHTO I WILL COME ON!
    I mean f**k its a DT forum….a place of differing opinions, questions and shit…….I read through this forum and see the same bloody questions OVER AND OVER AGAIN and I ask an original question about the ELIMINATOR something which aint been mentioned often and if its worth using a trade first week of it going or is 230 enough of a gap to take a chance (which it would be but would it be worth it?)
    
    So baconb COME ON and pull your head in
    - Baconb
      April 21, 2010 • 10:47 pm
      
      Last time I checked there was an eliminator thread and if you posted before wait your turn pipe down cha chi.
      
      Lets relax a little here, Your a rookie you said it.
      
      No brainer, Rookie.
      
      learn those words champ.
- samsa
  April 21, 2010 • 6:12 pm
  
  sorry about this not answering your question but speaking of the eliminator
  
  i beat Raf last year and ended up being knocked out in the final 128. There is no chance of me topping that this year because i beleive i got lucky on occasions and like always i run out of trades too early near the end – trade addict
  
  To start this year i got some guy ave about 1500… and only has one rookie in his team (barlow) lol.
  - Danger
    April 21, 2010 • 6:19 pm
    
    Hahaha. The guy i am playing only had three backmen start last round which were Zac Dawson and Merrett. Haha. All his other backs are 200k or less and have not played a single game. Lol. He scored 1300 (somehow)
    - samsa
      April 21, 2010 • 6:23 pm
      
      haha just realised my opp team name chickenporn rofl.
  - McScoundrel
    April 21, 2010 • 6:23 pm
    
    Haha, a self-confessed trade addict. Have you heard of the 2 step programme…oh shit, that’s how you got into trading from the start.
    
    Ravalle, you have to think of your team as a European football team. Prioritise a bit. Your team may not be perfect yet but neither is anyone else’s. Think of Eliminator as a midweek cup game, go in with a decent team but assume you’ll win and don’t stuff around to beat your Eliminator opponent.
- JaydenC.
  April 22, 2010 • 12:44 am
  
  Good post Ravalle, a legitimate concern.
  It all depends where your priorities lie I suppose. Some care more about their league wins and trade based on that while others are all about getting the highest possible ranking at the end of the year and thus have a different game plan.
  I like McScoundrel’s suggestion. Sounds like you should have the noob covered anyway, barring some big disaster.
  In the end you’ll probably find that when you weigh everything up objectively you’ll see what’s best for your team and if that means there’s a good trade to be made then do it. Good luck!
Pav123
April 21, 2010 • 6:04 pm

already had 100 000 in the bank but downgraded gumbleton to podsiadly which made me 70 000. hitchcock will most likely only rise another 20k so i though geting in podsiadly will make me a lot more money in the long term and he will get better scores.
- Pav123
  April 21, 2010 • 6:05 pm
  
  what dso you think
  - Bella
    April 21, 2010 • 7:37 pm
    
    Well by the sounds of it its done now, so doesnt matter to much what we think. but as long as u havent used many trades it sounds alrite
TitsonyaFC
April 21, 2010 • 6:12 pm

Gonna trade Hitchcock for Rockliff which will make me 40 Gs to go with the 40 I already have in the bank, then upgrade stinker Luke Ball to a Premium mid, perhaps Lenny, he smashed Port in the Anzac game last year… or J Selwood, but fcuk he’s out of form… then there’s Marc Murphy too, so many options! Will wait for tomorrow’s teams then make a call.
- samsa
  April 21, 2010 • 6:15 pm
  
  kind of the same here but thinking of trading hitch to pods and wait till hargrave bottoms out then almost a straight swap with hunt and my back line is set with hodge,carrazo,gram,shaw,enright,hargrave and waters if he can ave 70+:D
  - eeepobreci
    April 21, 2010 • 9:10 pm
    
    ARE you sure its SET? i didnt see Goddard anywhere.
    - Samsa
      April 21, 2010 • 9:34 pm
      
      i am thinking of getting goddard in the mids not in the backs.
      - eeepobreci
        April 21, 2010 • 9:52 pm
        
        yes but he will best or 2nd best defender, but possibly not in the top 20 mids!
        You could be missing out on valuable pts.
      - Blue boys
        April 21, 2010 • 11:51 pm
        
        Exactly!!! I have goddard in mids at moment but with dpp use him down back when needed. He will also end up in my backs once mid rookies upgraded.
gammin
April 21, 2010 • 6:17 pm

thinkin bout trading tippet to t-rock, thoughts ?
got pods and hitchdoodle on the bench?
- Seamo
  April 22, 2010 • 6:03 am
  
  I got the exact same scenario with same players. I’m definitly kickin Tippett to touch I hate him right now!….Tippett >Rockliff is how i’m goin.
goodgod
April 21, 2010 • 6:24 pm

How good is this Kane Lucas kid? I haven’t had the chance to see him play?
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 6:42 pm
  
  decent. He also wont attract a tag as easy as barlow, due to the superstar carlton mids.
Booyah
April 21, 2010 • 6:25 pm

ok Im thinking of going gumby to pods or hitchcock to pods but the only problem is that he will be playing on my field cause I dont trust any of my other bench forwards I have only used 1 trade so far and that was because of the voldt I know I wont be getting the 100k minimum but pods is about to jump and it will give me money to upgrade ball over the coming weeks, so which one do you think I should trade?
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 6:47 pm
  
  i think hitchcock. less job security than gumby. also gumby can play a decent game and scratch up a 70 score when he actually touches it. a massive confidence player IMO.
  
  and hylander predicts at the current averages that gumby will top hitchcocks peak score and that gumbys increase this week will be greater than hitchcock.
  - Blue boys
    April 22, 2010 • 12:07 am
    
    Mate, not sure how Hylander has figured out these stats between Gumby and Hitch????
    Hitch has last 2 of 57 & 32 = 89pts. Is $144,100, ave of 48.75. BE of 16. Est increase this week about 9K.
    Gumby has 56 & 33 = 89 pts. Is $150,400, ave of 45.5. BE of 21. Est increase this week about 19K.
    
    If they score the same this week Hitch should go up slighty more, if they score their averages this week, Hitchy goes up even more than gumby.
    Not that its a big issues, and if you were wanting to keep one it would be gumby as better job security.
Kingo
April 21, 2010 • 6:38 pm

Pods or Rockcliffe?
- Optimus Grimes
  April 21, 2010 • 6:45 pm
  
  i prefer rockliff. he only missed selection in the first round because there were so many fighting for that spot. But he proved himself in NAB cup, Local competition in rounds he wasnt selected and now in AFL, I dont thin he is going anywhere.
  
  Pods could be up and down, who knows .. we haven’t seen enough of him in the regular season. But that being said if he keeps going like he is, he’d be the pickup of the year. and therefore securing his own job..
  but if not, who knows? plenty of people to replace him.
- Danger
  April 21, 2010 • 6:53 pm
  
  Thats a tough one.
  
  Depends why you are getting them. Pods is 30k cheaper and better for an immediate cash boost. If you want a player to keep for a while that you may or may not trade (keeping as great bench cover or even last fwd), Rock is your man.
matty[b]
April 21, 2010 • 6:55 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/21/2879226.htm?site=sport&section=all
- Danger
  April 21, 2010 • 6:56 pm
  
  Wow!
- Warnie
  April 21, 2010 • 6:56 pm
  
  TRADE!
  - Danger
    April 21, 2010 • 6:58 pm
    
    Done it. Got Riewoldt in.
  - Optimus Grimes
    April 21, 2010 • 7:01 pm
    
    he wasnt a keeper anyway.
    - Optimus Grimes
      April 21, 2010 • 7:09 pm
      
      also, mackay is out
      
      http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/92794/default.aspx
      - Danger
        April 21, 2010 • 7:10 pm
        
        Does that effect anyones DT’s?
      - Smithy
        April 21, 2010 • 7:22 pm
        
        mackay out effects mine, also have shuey and howlett:( . Was going to go hitchcock to pods and ziebell to T Rock so i could go mackay to judd next week and seaby to cox so will have to cop a donut
      - Optimus Grimes
        April 21, 2010 • 7:37 pm
        
        mackay could have been seen as another break through player this year. bernie vince circa 2009
      - Smithy
        April 21, 2010 • 7:58 pm
        
        He has been struggling like all adelaide players and I think He wont hit it now till next year, what do you think optimus?
      - Danger
        April 21, 2010 • 9:22 pm
        
        Im a crows fan and he has actually been one of our best players all year. Been the only one willing to run hard and break lines. Doesn’t get loads of marks and touches so won’t be elite at DT at any stage IMO. Playing well though.
- Smithy
  April 21, 2010 • 7:26 pm
  
  oh no allready have 4 injuries and thats after trading out riewoldt, hope its crap as i am also a brizzy fan
Mr Sandy Pavalinco
April 21, 2010 • 7:04 pm

Double Trade this week…

Kerr out Swan in
Dangerfield out Pods in

Preparing for Gibbs or Selwood next week to complete my midfield!
- Danger
  April 21, 2010 • 7:10 pm
  
  Don’t like Dangerfield out already but ok. He has plenty of scope for improvement yet and you got him for a reason.
lions_10
April 21, 2010 • 7:19 pm

Warnie, just wondering will Calvin’s Captain’s (or is that Craptains?) be coming up tonight?
Pigdog
April 21, 2010 • 7:37 pm

i have duncan on the ground, hitchcock and gumby on the bench atm.
im thinking hitcchcock out for one of pods or rock not sure yet…..any thoughts?
Collingwood Fan
April 21, 2010 • 7:58 pm

should i trade hitchcock for pods
but i only have 14 trades
- Baconb
  April 22, 2010 • 12:46 am
  
  Sounds like your in a good position.
  Trades are over-rated, may as well get rid of them before round 10.
  
  NO BRAINER.
maanco
April 21, 2010 • 8:31 pm

but does Kane Lucas have a secure spot

any i know a family with the last name Lucas and they are pretty useless hope Kane isn’t
Disco DB
April 21, 2010 • 8:56 pm

“K-Luc”? Don’t you mean “Kluck Kluck” Chook?

If Martin keeps getting games, he might as well be a keeper, unless a rookie keeper comes along that you know will play the last 6 games (at least).

“Bust-a-nut”, haha!

Lions have alot of injuries, which gave T-Rock an opportunity. He might go when that list shortens.

Not sure if its too early to chop Warren, he’s lost me nothing, but he is sitting on my bench gaining nothing, thou. Both jPod/T-Rock look good, if they play 8 games. I think T-Rock will average alot more than jPod in the end. Not sure T-Rock is going to play 8 games in a hurry, thou.

I think this website is biased anyway… “PODcast Powered by PODpress (v8.8)”.
d-dogg
April 21, 2010 • 9:03 pm

i am interested in trading sam wright down to rockliff
and trading in jPod for Relton
this will leave me witth 17 trades and 260,000 which i can use to upgrade ball to swan
any thoughts?
whitsy
April 21, 2010 • 9:11 pm

Lads.

IN – Pods

OUT – Medhurst or Danger ?

Cheers
- Danger
  April 21, 2010 • 9:24 pm
  
  Stick with them. Both have scope for improvement and most likely will string a few good games together. You picked them both for a reason.
  
  PS i have both of them too.
  - whitsy
    April 21, 2010 • 9:59 pm
    
    pods must come in….too much free money on offer.
    
    one must go and upgrade elsewhere.
    
    think danger may be the one to go…..then again….
Bella
April 21, 2010 • 9:12 pm

I would love to see a top 5 rookies from each position to play on ur field side in chooks rooks. i can never pick who to start out of Trengrove, Martin and Shuey. been sticking with Trengrove atm. also between silvagni, maguire, and hunt!

Maybe cash cows to play because some of those players dont exactly fall under the rookie category
funky
April 21, 2010 • 9:22 pm

medhurst or hitchcock to pods/rock??
eeepobreci
April 21, 2010 • 9:34 pm

Was just talking dt with my nephew, is cracking 2000 each week, and had Pods,T-Rock, & Duncan as originals in his team. Thats handy! sure beats combo of Gumby,Hitchcock,Roberts!!!!!!! lol (Sounds like a few teams may have all 3, = EPIC DT FAILURE, one would think!
luckily i avoided, Gumby & Hitch, but sadly had Roberts and only other rook was Petersen!
The Flyer
April 21, 2010 • 10:30 pm

I am in the very unfortunate (read stupid) position of having to trade out Kerr and want to downgrade him. I alreday have the ususal suspects of Barlow, Martin, Trengove, Bastinac and Shuey and was considering Kane lucas or Rohan Mail as the likely options. Does anyone have a preference or a better option?? Thanks in advance.
- eeepobreci
  April 21, 2010 • 10:40 pm
  
  way too many midfield rooks!
  Midfield rooks are gonna be best cashcows generally, but the points you will be haemorrhaging every week will kill ya!
  Trading kerr to rookie, in your situationn, is like taking laxatives when your already suffering from diarrhea.
nebnoswal
April 21, 2010 • 10:53 pm

Tippett has to got. I’ve got a choice of Hille, Nic-Nat or Goldstein. Anyone got any suggestions? I’m thinking Hille
- Baconb
  April 22, 2010 • 12:49 am
  
  Tippet should have gone a long time ago kid.
  - Seamo
    April 22, 2010 • 6:10 am
    
    good advice bacon!…tool!…………………….To answer original question, yeah get rid of Tippett for sure and go with Hille or NicNat.
Perth Power
April 21, 2010 • 11:02 pm

I’m leaning towards pods now over rockcliff.
eeepobreci
April 21, 2010 • 11:05 pm

If JB is out for 6-8, would it be worth trading him out for the other JB?
seabs
April 21, 2010 • 11:51 pm

is it worth trading a non playing rookie (dennis-lane) for pods just for cash when he will stay on my bench? or is this a waste of a trade?
- Baconb
  April 22, 2010 • 12:50 am
  
  Not as much of a waste as reading your post.
eeepobreci
April 22, 2010 • 12:27 am

the way injuries are going, i’d save the trade.
Looks like the 2 best CHFs are out now!
It’s gonna be rough if Premiums keep going down.
eeepobreci
April 22, 2010 • 12:52 am

WAY TOO MUCH DT HARI KARI GOING ON. GOTTA LOVE IT!!!
eeepobreci
April 22, 2010 • 6:04 am

Here are some exerts from live transcript with T-Rock yesterday.
Thought a lot of you may be interested.

11:00
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
Hey guys ready to go. Fire away

11:00
Josh Porter:
hey rocky, how’s the feeling around the team atm?

11:01
Luke:
tom, is it much harder for the group to get up for a game against melbourne than it is playing the dogs? obviously it’s just as important to beat melbourne, if not more important. but is the motivation still there?

11:01
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
The feeling is pretty good, we are ready to take on Melbourne this weekend

11:02
anton:
gidday rocky, i noticed on Sat night at the game that there is a lot more poise and composure, particularly as we break forward in attack. you and staker stopped and thought about options a couple of times when in the past we’ve had a habit of blazing away, is this something that’s worked on. congrats on yr first two games this year too, helping my sc team!

11:02
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
The motivation is certinly there, its a massive game for us and Melbourne are in really good form

11:03
Luke:
a lot of people are picking you up in fantasy land this week after an impressive few weeks as a bottom priced player.. are you confident you can keep notching up those touches?

11:04
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
thanks anton, yeah its really important for us to lower our eyes and hit targets going forward instead of just bombing long.
hey luke, i hope to keep playing my role within the team and if that includes getting points for dreamteam then i hope i can keep doing well for you guys.

11:05
Josh Porter:
Hey Tom, I watched you play in the 1st reserves game and you looked really good. What soort of things did you work on in the pre season.

11:07
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
hey josh, thanks for that. i really worked hard on my fitness over the break and alot of game patterns and where to run to find the footy. it was a good preseason for all the team and we are really well drilled. all the coaching staff have been clear on our roles, espcially jade the blade

11:09
Sam Dickens:
Hi tom your first 2 games this year have been Really good is it good playing in th a’s after a while

11:10
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
hey sam, thanks for that. yeah it is great to get up and play senior footy and play along with some of the best footballers to ever play. its very exciting

11:13
Josh:
Hey Tom, what are your goals for this year?

11:13
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
sam, yeah our form has been ok but we can still improve our game. everyone is excitied about our first game in melbourne for the year and are ready for a hard faught contest agaisnt the dees

11:14
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
josh, i have not really set alot of goals for the year and the more senior footy i can get under my belt the better and the more i can learn
sam, the team are just focused one this week and the next month of footy we have some big games and its going to be a good test for the month with the dees, swans and dockers over the next three weeks

11:16
Luke:
there were rumours going around in round 2 you had a 7 goal 40 possession game in the reserves? is that true?

11:17
Christian:
mate, you and Redden are guns !!!! keep up the great footy !

11:18
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
luke, we had a good win against mt. gravatt and no i didnt kick 7 and have 40, i think it was 6 and 34
hey christian, thanks for that

11:20
Josh:
Tom, what player in the AFL would you love to man up on?

11:22
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
josh, i am not sure i would like to man up on him but i would love to play against jimmy bartel, i think he is a great player and would love to learn stuff off him

11:23
Christian:
Tom, who did you follow in the AFL before you joined the Lions ?

11:24
christian i was a tiger man

11:25
Luke:
a tiger man? i bet you are glad you are a lions man now, haha.

11:25
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
luke yes very happy to be a lion now

11:27
Dezza:
Hi Tom, where do you think you will be playing in the future, whether it be the wing, half-back or half-forward, and where would you prefer to play?

11:28
Lukey T:
Hey Rocky u played really well against western bulldogs! and also which position do you usually prefer to play since I heard you were a top goal scorer in TAC Cup 2008.

11:28
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
dezza, i would be happy to get a spot anywhere in the team and just playing a role for the team, but my personal preference would be midfield

11:31
Dezza:
How are pulling up after each game? I know that the increased speed/physicality of the AFL competition may put an extra toll on your body, are you at all struggling to back it up? Disclaimer though, I hope you’re pulling up fine

11:31
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
lukey thank you for that. i played full forward alot in the tac because of my lack of fitness
11:33
Tom Rockliff (Rocky):
dezza it is definitely harder but i have been pulling up well.
Gazinator
April 22, 2010 • 12:27 pm

@Shane

Cheers mate, like attracts like remember!

Feel free to shoot us an email if you want, or maybe just Kathryn since she knows what she’s doing haha.

sgarrett@hatch.com.au
Matt34
April 22, 2010 • 11:29 pm

So if we have gumby and he’s not going up much more should we trade for Rockliff. Note i just traded Hall for Pods. With the cash next week, Swan and Gibbs will be INS

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