Roy’s Trade Talk: rd 11

With the Byes only two weeks away, I have a look at some potential targets from the Suns and Power to help us avoid doughnuts through the dreaded period.

Cash Cows: Price, BE, Score

  • Logan Austin (DEF, $222,000) -16, 97. Came into the Saints side with no expectations from Fantasy coaches from a scoring perspective but he took advantage of a very leaky Tiger forward line to score 97 from 23 touches and eight marks. Don’t expect that every week but the break even game is there.
  • Tim Smith (FWD, $277,000) -36 107 is pricey now but he has the highest ceiling of the lot after backing up last weeks performance with 107 from 19 possessions six marks and six tackles and two goals. He is going nowhere through the byes and will actually contribute when he’s on the ground.

Trade Targets

  • Aaron Hall (MID, $566,000) 71, 115. Is an interesting prospect. Since coming back into the side he has done his best work off half back, but is it enough to get DPP if he does it again this round? He has scored 102 and 115 in his last two and plays the Cats this week who are giving up a heap of points to half backs.
  • Travis Boak (MID/FWD, $617,000) 84, 113 is having a good season and is in nice form with a five round average of 98 coming off a season high 113. He only has one score under 70 for the year which is more than can be said for a few of our popular ‘premiums’.
  • Tom Rockliff (FWD/MID, $545,000) 56, 106 is bordering on must have this week as he heads down to Tassie where he dominates. After a slow start that has resulted in his $180K price drop, he is back in the middle where he belongs and his scores of 127 and 106 reflect that. He is so cheap for a world record holder and those piggish tendencies we all love are creeping back. You will never get him this cheap ever again, so it’s time to pounce.
  • Darcy Byrne Jones (DEF, $556,000) 54, 106 here is a left field defender for you, owned by just .8% of the competition. Since Hartlett went down, DBJ has been the main beneficiary with a lowest score of 88 in the last five weeks and an average of 96 in that time following 104 and 106 on his last two. If you need a cheap guy pumping out premo scores for our depleted back lines, he may be it


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 Rolling 22

Defenders:

Rory Laird
Elliot Yeo
Sic Dawg
Kade Simpson
Jake Lloyd
Jeremy Howe out for Angus Brayshaw

Midfielders:

Tom Mitchell
Stephen Coniglio
Patrick Dangerfield
Ed Curnow
Scott Pendlebury
Jack Macrae
Adam Treloar
Nat Fyfe

No change.

Ruck:

Max Gawn
Brodie Grundy

Forward:

Robbie Gray
Isaac Heeney
Toby Mclean
Tom Rockliff
Lance Franklin out for Mitch Robinson
Jack Darling out Devon Smith

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My trades at this stage:

Kelly to Rockliff
Mutch to Tim Smith

 Cheers,
@RoyDT

101 Comments

  • Hey all.

    What’s better.
    Mutch to Giro if named and Kelly to Rockliff.
    Kelly to Giro and Waterman to Rockliff.
    Waterman to Smith and Kelly to Rockliff?

  • After listening to the pod, Roy, are you saying people shouldn’t be trading in all players in the rolling 22. Isn’t the point of it to publish the players you think are the best 22 to be aiming for? Maybe think about whether it’s a form 22 or an ideal 22. I’d prefer the latter as it’s all about the future, not the past.

    • Yeah, Brayshaw has no right to replace Howe any more than Gaff has a right to replace Dangerfield. One happened, the other didn’t. I’m sick of having to work this shit out for myself…

      • I thought Crisp would’ve been in the roiling 22. On track for a top 6 def spot.
        Ave of 91 and 125 in last 3.

        • I don’t see why you would want Dangerfield out, Simon. He hasn’t set the world on fire, but he’s been consistently good.
          And I don’t disagree with Brayshaw, averaging 115 over his last 4, but Crisp is very stiff – I would personally have him ahead of Simpson.

    • It is a bit of a combination… eg. How could Darling not be in there last week? But due to the risk I feel is associated with that, I wouldn’t have traded him in. If players maintain form, they are also in ideal 22 aren’t they. But point taken, and every player in the 22 is worth owning at the moment, although I wouldn’t recommend trading in Gray for example

  • trade fritsch or billings for rocky. and is venables any chance or returnign through the byes

    • I’ve traded Billings and I think is the right option. Fritsch is doing well. I can’t see Venables playing during the byes.

  • Gaff or treloar?

  • Do we hold Billings after his 89 on the weekend and see what happens? Had him for this long anyway, wait until his bye in Round 14?

    • Im holding until his bye, non playing players are priority for me to trade before the byes. He and Kelly will be the two i ditch prior to round 14 (unless either start killing it or they dont play)

  • Murray > Rice
    Keefe > Rocky
    Or
    Taranto > Rocky
    Murray > Brayshaw

    • Tough one…
      Prob 1 as Murray and Keefe are cooked while Taranto might still offer you a lifeline…

    • I’d take 2 myself. Taranto with a BE of 125 and scores of 70 and 50 recently, both in losses, and playing Adelaide away who would want to make a point after last week, doesn’t bode well…

      Brayshaw however has a BE of 23 and scores of 101 and 166 recently, both in big wins, and playing Dogs, fares MUCH betterer..

  • Really wanted to go all out and bring in 2 of Walters, Rocky & Brayshaw, but probably need to play it safe with bringing in another rookie..

    • Agreed, Can upgrade Cunico and Kelly to Walters and Rocky. But feel I should grab Smith instead and use the money next week/to help cover over the byes

  • First trade is set at kelly>rocky,

    Second trade:
    taranto>walters +31k
    or
    taranto>t.smith +310k?

  • DEF: Laird, Yeo, Lloyd, Whitfield, Ryan, Doedee (Rice, Murphy)
    MID: Macrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Coniglio, Merrett, Kelly, Phillips, Banfield (Coffield, Mutch)
    RUCK: Martin, Gawn (McInerney, Cameron)
    FWD: McLean, Heeney, Smith, Taranto, Ronke, Guelfi (Giles-Langdon, Spargo)

    Cash: $225k

    Currently have gone Taranto to Rockliff and Murphy (via DPP) to Smith. Then I DPP Rockliff and Spargo benching Banfield and fielding Rocky, having 3 rookies in the FWDS. Thoughts on trades and other options

  • Rocky vs Danger?

  • Yay
    I have 5 of the DEF,
    Only 2 MID
    1 RUC
    5 FWD

    Taranto – Rocky
    Kelly – Brayshaw
    Bank $70 for Danger next week

  • Hey kingzy
    What’s better mate.
    Waterman to Smith and Kelly to Rocky with 50k in bank or Mutch to Giro If named and Kelly to Rocky.
    I don’t want to miss out on Smith but I can’t see Mutch getting any games soon and byes are fast approaching?
    Operation get McLean after rnd 12 for me.

    • Hey Anth
      I like Waterman to Smith and Kelly to Rocky, Smith will be great during the byes.
      Giro if playing wont go up to much in value, next week with 3 trades it would be easy to clean up those non playing rooks.

      Yea McLean getting it done, I traded in round 7 and loved him since.
      I went left field and captain him last week, 304 thank you very much haha.

      Pity Taranto, Neale, Parker, Kelly, Bont and Hurn forgot how to play.
      And Seedsman late out, covered by Rice thank goodness.

      • I’ve got Taranto as well. He’s going to stay atm as I want to get rooks off my field 1st.
        That’s true about Giro and cleaning up non playing rooks next week.
        Looking at a triple downgrade next week hopefully then Bundy upto McLean or Macrae.
        I’ve got Seedsman too. It might as well have been a 🍩 as I had Pearce’s 30. But I won some of my league matches with his 30. Starting to make some ground in your league. In the top 8 and won 4 of my last 5.

        • Thats a good idea.
          My rooks are Kelly which I am trading, then Fristch and Guelfi which are going along nicely and happy to field at the mo.
          Taranto is sucking and cant see him being a top 10 FWD, so he is going for me.

          Nice plan, I think ill probably be going 2 downgrades and an upgrade to Danger next week. Then try and get Gaff and Macrae.

          OUch, at least you had cover I guess.
          Good work, what is the league name? And your team name?

          • It’s Kingzy’s crackups. Team name Crows choked as one. Mad Power fan.
            Taranto will go. Probably his bye week he’ll go.

          • Yea nice team man, I like the Crisp pick.
            Iam 5th, your 6th only 4 points in it.

          • Yeah thanks. It needs a bit of work. I’ve got a few spuds holding me down.
            Yeah it was either going to be him or Brayshaw. I went him as I see him ave more then Brayshaw heading home. I need McLean and Macrae but might not get Macrae as he’s expensive now, rightly so. I could get value in Danger, Zorko, Beams, Adams etc and save 150k. But if I can I will get him.
            Rockliff in middle this week and Smith at F6.
            I looked at your team the other night and it’s sweet. Nice ranking too.

  • Considering whether to do a double upgrade of:

    Ratugolea to Rockliff; and

    Murray to best mid under $620k (leaning Brayshaw over Whitfield, Blakely, Byrne Jones and Goddard)

    or should I downgrade Murray to Rice? Already have a decent backline with Yeo, Laird, Simpson and Lloyd but thinking of taking the points as I’d have to field either Rice or Ridley.

    Thoughts?

    • Points definitely. Bryne Jones would be my choice, but then again I got Brayshaw last week and am chuffed!
      Are you heavy in Rd.13 byes?

      • I’m pretty light, have a 1-7-9-13 bye structure. The 13 in rd 14 discourages a few other defs, but a couple of those are rookies to be moved on.

        I have Byrne-Jones in draft and I’ve been loving his improvements since Hartlett went down

  • Tim Kelly to Rocky is one trade.

    Please help me with the other. Murray or Alex Pearce out? Brayshaw or Austin the other?

    • Murray unless he’s picked this week… Maggies have a good run and can’t see him cracking back into a winning team given Buckley’s comments on the weekend.

      Didn’t see either Brayshaw or Austin play. Both have question marks at this point, so maybe make the deciding factor whether or not you need the dosh?

  • Ratugolea to Rocky or Devon?? Thinking Rat to Dev then Kelly to Rocky next week barring no injuries

    • Rocky is good with no byes though. I’m actually keeping Esava this week (despite me fielding him at the last minute instead of Spargo, RIP), I’ll wait until I have enough to go to someone good. To be honest, I’ve given up. When you drop a million spots you get like that.

  • Who should I get out of Treloar, Dangerfield and Fyfe for Hutchings?

  • who to get for Esava rat, Walters or rockliff

    • 100% Rocky, he has already had his bye

      • yeah but then i have got westhoff, gray and rocky in my forward line. plus walters would be a great pod as everyone is getting rocky.

        • Yeah, but Rocky has already had his bye..

        • Doesn’t matter how many port players you have, they are playing every game from now on. Plus, there is a reason everyone is getting Rocky…

          • I think what he means by having a mainly-Port line is that if Port have a crap game, especially in midfield and scoring goals, they will all suffer. The concern is to mitigate against that, and spread out the risk.

            That said, I agree with the others in this instance – getting in players already done with byes and thus playing every week outweighs (by a long way) such concerns of too many from one team in a line.

  • Really stuck on these two trades

    Ratugolea -> rocky
    Doedee -> brayshaw
    89k left over

    Or

    Ratugolea -> rocky
    Keeffe -> rice
    274k left over

    Both have their pros and cons but really torn

  • Getting Rocky in for Kelly.

    Whats the best option for second trade:

    Option A) Pearce to Rice + $350k

    Option B) Murray to Rice + $550k

    Option C) Langdon to T.Smith $324k

    • Will Rice and Smith be on field or bench?
      Smith if on field but rice should be decent bench cover through byes. Also ZGL has to go. I wish I could get rid of him this week but it’s going to have to wait till byes

      • I’ve managed to squeeze out Langdon for Smith with 0k left O_o
        Still have multiple fattened cows to cash out and upgrade..

        • yeah I’m down to 3K after trades this week but with the 3 trades throughout byes I’ll do a few downgrades to generate cash. and Langdon will be the first to go

    • Jacko

      Option C as Pearce gets a game and Murray should be back this week to replace Varcoe
      Good luck for the rest of the season

  • Who’s more important?

    Rice or Smith

  • Walters, Crisp or Brayshaw? Bye irrelevant

    • I’ve gone for Brayshaw but if I had the cash I wouldn’t been really tempted to grab Crisp… also with a low BE considering his ceiling.

      Guess it also depends on your fwd and def. structure in terms of which ones need upgrades and reduce the amount of rooks on field.

    • Brayshaw ahead of the other 2, and I’ve got Walters ahead of Crisp based on his DPP

  • neale ( i have too many freo players) & andy brayshaw> rocky & dbj?

  • My team is rooted, like completely gone. I’ve given up and I”m also about 8 beers down, but not the point. It’s a sad week, and I’ve dropped 5,000 spots in two weeks. Anyway, here we go.

    DEF: Laird, Sicily, Seedsman, Savage, Doedee, Mirra, (Ridley, Murray)
    MID: Titch, Treloar, Coniglio, Neale, Dangerfield, Zerrett, Parker, Kelly, (Phillips, Mutch)
    RUCK: Gawn, Nank, (McInerney, Cameron)
    FWD: McLean, Heeney, Smith, Taranto, Ah Chee, Ratugolea (RIP :'(), (Spargo, Waterman)

    Trades are depending on Seedsman. If he doesn’t get up I’m going:

    Seedsman —> Brayshaw
    Kelly —> Rockliff (via Ah Chee into Mid to get rid of next week the spud)

    What does everyone think?

    • I’m in a similar situation. Thinking the man of seed to Yeo/Brayshaw then Ratugolea to Smith. If the man of seed gets up, I’ll trade T Kelly to the cliff of rocks. The Ratugolea to Smith trade is locked though.

    • Mad fish

      Seedsman could be back this week (you’ve got coverage in either emergency)
      I’d trade Kelly to Rocky then Rat to Giro
      Ah Chee might also struggle to retain his spot with Shuey returning
      With byes coming up you can’t carry deadwood
      Best of luck for the rest of the season

  • Trading out Murray, should i bring in Tom Jonas cause of his bye or angus Brayshaw.
    Also trading out Kelly, do i bring in Rocky or Walters

  • Hi all

    I desperately need help this week
    Team
    Laird, Sicily, Toouhy
    Doedee. Murray, Rice (Heron)

    Titch, Coniglio, Neale, Merrett
    Redden, Langdon, E-Yolman, Kelly (Brayshaw, Much)

    Gawn, Jacobs (McInerney, Cameron)

    Menegola, Heeney, Smith
    Thompson, Billings, Fritsch (Geulfi, Waterman)
    90k left
    Should I
    Trade out Murray and Redden for A Brayshw and Rocky or
    Trade out Murray and Much for Austin and Rocky
    Or just get in a Sun or Power pler on both lines

  • Is sam Powell-Pepper an option through the byes, could do Taranto to Rocky and Tim Kelly to someone for only 524k or less

    • he has scores of 87 and 109 in the last 2 with a breakeven of 57 btw

      • Just me maybe, but I dont like the idea of bringing in stepping stones at this time of year, SPP has looked good the last few games, but I think thats his only ever ton? Im not 100% tho. Not a huge ceiling (at this stage) I’d look elsewhere personally

    • Don’t get players just because of their byes.
      If it comes down to choosing between players that you’d like regardless of byes, then consider the byes as a factor in deciding between them.

  • So everyone wants Rocky, I get it and am not against it. Am I crazy in not getting him until next week. Here’s the thing I don’t want any other Port or Gold Coast players and next week anyone I trade in will either be on a bye or going to have a bye. Therefore waiting until next week to pick him up seems more logical as really the only players to pick are ones that have had their bye. I guess my thinking also comes from me wanting a mid or defender and there isn’t much top talent for those teams

    What are other peoples thoughts on this. I’m getting in yeo to help my bye structure and as he should be a top 6 defender.

    • I think Yeo may get a rest this week so he can have 2 weeks off.

    • why get yeo now when he has a bye after this weekend, has a BE well above his average and Rocky is very underpriced with a bye done.

      • Because he suits a bye structure and is a top defender. Like I said thinking in advance next week who would I bring in? Who are you going to bring in next week? Someone who hasn’t had their bye? Or someone from port or Gold Coast. I don’t rate Westhoff, Hall could easily get dropped, Byrne Jones isn’t a top defender. I know yeo is having next week off and all the other players in 13 & 14 will have a bye as well so it makes sense I think to wait on Rockliff.

  • Hi thoughts??

    I think as the Legends said Rocky is a must this week as he is lowly priced and will go up in price after this week. If you wait until next week or longer you will be spending more money to get him in your team. By the way I am going Austin and Rocky in for Murray and Much. The only problem I have is my backline has 3 Rookies on field (Doedee, Rice, Austin) That leaves me now with 83k and I’m not Trading Kelly until next week as I think he might score ok this week against the Suns. Next week bring Brayshaw into my Backline.

    • Yeh I get that Rocky should go up. I’m happy to pay more next week if I have to as I agree I think he will be a must in the forwards. Just feel as though picking him to play through the byes I can get him next week and getting someone in to help the structure is better.

  • Watermen to Rocky
    Gowers to T.Smith

    Leaves $88k.

    Leaves Seedmen and Murray not accounted for

  • Maybe I’m stupid but how does RoyDT intend to trade two MIDs out for a MID/FWD and one FWD. Am I missing something?

    • Via ‘advanced’ trades with dpp’s (dual position players) he has in his team.

      So, for example, to trade Mutch to TSmith – he trades Mutch out from the midfield then shifts a fwd/mid he currently has in his forward line into the mid spot vacated by Mutch, then selects TSmith to go in the newly vacated fwd spot.

      If you’re on the fantasy site you do this in ‘advanced trades’.
      NB: if you’re using the app then to do these trades (where you shift players from one position to another) then you’ll need to have players on the field and not your bench while you do the trade (then you can rearrange them between field & bench after completing the trade)

      Have fun :)

      • Thanks mate. Can the same DPP player be used to do this in consecutive weeks? For instance can a MID/FWD (ie. Heeney) be used to swap a MID (ie. Mutch) out to a FWD (ie. TSmith), then the same player be used to do the reverse the following week – (ie. trade Ratugolea to a MID via Heeney)?

        • Yep, you can swap dpp’s around as often as you like (except, of course, during lockouts). Shuffling dpp’s can help avoid donuts when players are injured/suspended (and you want to park them on your bench temporarily) and it can help with getting 18 guys who’re playing on the field for the byes.

  • Looking at moving on either B. Banfield, N. Coffield or B. Gowers to T. Smith.
    And either S. Murray, T. Taranto or J. Cunico to T. Rockliff.

    • Coffield & Taranto for me..
      They have good JS, but I can’t see them rising in price anymore, where as I see more from the other 4, albeit by a minimal amount..

  • Anyone else have concerns about bringing Rocky in this week?

    I reckon Port may look to tag Titch this week.

    If they do Rocky would be their best option.

    Does anybody remember Rocky’s tagging job on Gibbs last year, he kept Gibbs to just 37 and only scored 45 himself.

    • I can’t see it. Rocky is a confidence player… expect Hinkley to get the best out of him by letting him run free.

    • Got no concerns on Rocky performing well, but I’ve gone Brayshaw this week because I see a steeper price rise from him which will be hard for me to claw back. Plus, from what we’ve seen this year, Dogs are an easier team to score against than Hawthorn..

      Rocky is in next week though

  • Any love for the Hoff?
    Still averaging 100+ and has had his bye & even with Ryder back he has gone at 93.

    Or is Boak a better option at $50k cheaper?

  • Spargo or T. Smith on field?

  • When does the 3 trades start?

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