Taylor Adams – Deck of DT 2015

Name: Taylor Adams
Club: Collingwood
Position: Midfield/Forward
AFL Fantasy: $404,00
AFL Dream Team: $402,600
Bye Round: 12
2014 Average: 71
2014 Games Played: 18
Predicted Average: 90

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Why should I pick him?

Taylor Adams has been publicly identified by Collingwood’s List Manager Derek Hine as a logical replacement to fill the midfield void left by the departure of Beams, Lumumba and more importantly, fellow inside midfielder Luke Ball.
2014 was a year of a very steep learning curve for the former Giant who admitted to struggling with the difference between playing in front of massive crowds for Collingwood as opposed to past games playing for the Giants.

Drafted by the Giants with pick number 13 in the 2011 draft. The highly rated youngster played 31 games in two years, developing well as an inside midfielder and proving he can find the ball and score well fantasy wise. Averaging 77 over his first two seasons while being managed as all GWS youngsters are with vests and omissions, Adams still showed us his potential registering two scores over 120 in his final season with them. The AFL took note and so did Collingwood, who when premiership player Heath Shaw asked to leave, the Pies and Hine were more than happy to straight swap for Adams.

In his first season at Collingwood Adams went through everything but consistency. Bouncing between the Magpies VFL and AFL sides, being an emergency, wearing a vest on occasion, copping a suspension and ending the season due to injury.

So once again, why should you pick him?

Adams eventually found his spot in Collingwoods side stringing together 7 games after round 13. During this run of games he averaged 89.8, including high scores of 122 and 111.
When given the chance, Adam’s can play a very fantasy friendly game, averaging over 25 disposals when his tail is up and registering 6 or more tackles in multiple games! This all equates to more points for us!
If all goes well for Adams this season, that’d be the kind of output i’d expect to see more often.

He’s spent this preseason training closely with former Geelong player Travis Varcoe who’s mentioned how impressed he has been with Adam’s ability and dedication, saying he inspires players around him to try and ‘keep up’ with him.

Time on ground has been something that has hampered Adam’s scoring in the past, but if his preseason training has been any indication, along with him putting on a few kg’s of muscle and running personal best times he has also been splitting his time between the midfield and forward’s, hopefully meaning we’ll see him resting forward instead of on the bench.

Why shouldn’t I pick him?

I’ll be honest, I really don’t have many reason’s not to start Adam’s this year but here we go…

Even during his DT Friendly run of games last year, his disposal efficiency can be at times woeful. While this isn’t exactly a negative in terms of Fantasy scoring (see Nathan Fyfe) it could see him on the outer at Collingwood’s selection table if it doesn’t improve.

Adams has a round 12 bye that may affect your structure, that one is pretty self explanatory.

Also, while he did average 89 points during that run of games last year, it wasn’t a consistent average. With scores of 122 and 11 certainly being a highlight, he also served up scores of 69 and 70 during that run. That is a pretty terrible standard deviation. While that may not concern some coaches who are perhaps focused on an overall score, a player with massive standard deviation is typically the player who’ll cost you in a head to head.

I wasn’t sure whether to mention the next point but in the interest of examining everything we should look into Adam’s attitude. After recently (as in this week) receiving an on the spot fine for being drunk in public, Adams has also been involved in past incidents such as noise complaints at his birthday at 5am last year and an assault charge in 2012 after being drafted by GWS.
While this may seem like something that isn’t relevant to fantasy scoring potential, I feel it could go either way.
We could see Adams really knuckle down now as if he really has something to prove and go a lot harder. Or we could see Adam’s act out again and miss games through possible club disciplines ect, which is never fun to have to account for.

Deck of DT Rating.

You know what? Queen! That’s right, if Adam’s slips in to Ball’s position as all signs are pointing to and can produce the number’s he did when given the chance last year, he is more than capable of pushing for a 95 – 100 point average by seasons end in my opinion.
Considering he’ll be starting the season priced at an average of only 71 points and is able to be selected as a dpp midfield/forward, Adams is an underpriced gun just waiting to go bang! He’s a lock for me.

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  • Taylor Adams lol, we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel here. A guy who gets injured and vested, can’t kick, stuffs around and gets nervous in front of big crowds. Real toss up between he and M Grigg as to who is less fantasy relevant.

    Stay tuned for tomorrow’s write up of Zac Dawson.

    • Both are very relevant mate. You’d be a fool to not even consider either
      As for Dawson, I’m looking at starting him this year. Bargain price at under 200k ;)

    • I like reviews of ‘fringe’ players with potential, versus cookie cutter players.

    • Not sure about scraping the bottom of the barrel. I have had Taylor slotted into my fwd line since the official site opened for business.. Priced at 71, capable of 90-100avg based on the end of last year. Sure he’s a risk, but far less risk than a beau waters / Kruz / Leuenberger imo who are all insanely popular atm.

      Very excited to see how hes used in the preseason comp. Along with whoever the hell the bulldogs are gonna replace Griffen & Cooney’s places in their midfield with (subject of DoDT soonish?).

      Cheers for the writeup Anthony !

    • Looks like your glass is still half empty, Aye-Aye.

      Great read, Anthony! Taylor Adams is a very relevant player for the Deck. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise! Always has to be a captain negativity on this site. I’m glad it wasn’t me who wrote about Taylor Adams, hey Aye-Aye.

  • Haha! We were saving Zac Dawson! How’d you know!?
    Seriously though bud, these kinds of articles are meant to take players who are being considered and highlight them. If it was all Hodge, GAJ and Rockliff then we may as well all roll into round one with the same team.
    I honestly believe Adams is worth a punt this year, based on all the reasons mentioned above and I will be starting him. Also my belief that he will outperform his previous scores kinda makes me hope that there are people out there that won’t have him. I’d love for him to be more unique but I don’t think it will be the case, especially after nab!
    All the best with the season though bud, hope playing it safe works out for you!

  • I love taking risks Anthony but you’ve outlined so many that it looks a bit scary to me, injury prone party boy, dare I say another Heath Shaw, plus vest risks, crap kick etc. Plus as a Pie fan I believe that this year will suck, terrible coach, bottom 4 and fewer fantasy relevant players. At this stage he’ll be pretty unique. But if he chops it up in the NAB I’ll eat my words and find a spot in my fwds for him along with 100,000 other coaches.

    M Grigg can fcuk off though.

    I just wanna get started, does anyone know if RDT is actually going to open any time soon, zero information out there.

  • I think you’re sinking the boot into your own team pretty hard! You’re going through a bit of a soft rebuild but I also think you’ve got a fair bit of fantasy potential there.
    Players I also wanted to write about were Freeman (who I think will walk into every team this year) kennedy, Degoey and Maynard who’re ready made picks and Moore aswell, a lot of fantasy relevance/potential.
    Along with still have Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Swan who all post big numbers on their day!

    End of the day though I just try to find/follow stats and trends. I think Adams is more than capable of pushin to a higher more consistent level.
    I copped the same critism when suggesting Macrae last season, but his numbers told the same story.
    Fingers crossed as always though!

  • Hi Anthony, being a Pies supporter I hope you’re right but I hate the way he butchers the ball so consistently. As a POD I’m looking at Josh Thomas, hoping he may fill the void in the midfield, slightly cheaper and still with DPP, thoughts?

  • I agree Collingwood has an awesome list, have recruited well for nearly 10 years now and with a decent coach like Eade we’d be threatening top four. Buckley’s got one of the best footy brains in the business but he’s not a leader and never will be. If you need any proof of that read W Carey’s book. Neither will Hird and Voss didn’t lead well as a coach either, the best players are rarely the best coaches and this will be Buckley’s last year and hopefully Hird’s too.

    Yeah we’re especially excited about D Moore, he’s the one everyone’s talking about, his old man was a gun full forward who wasted his career in the ruck, plus Freeman with Scharenburg to come later so there’s plenty of excitement but Golden Balls has to go.

    If you tipped Macrae then I’m listening, he was my biggest success last year, mate tipped him to me. On that alone I’ll watch Adams very closely now but at that price in RDT with the fwds available this year he’d have to play 20 games at 90+ and not sure if that’s going to happen this year.

    • I tipped Macrae – drafted him in all my draft leagues on UF and had him locked in 2014 even before the NAB – so listen up! lol
      Taylor Adams simply HAS to be in your side – you probably won’t want to have him in your round 23 team – but during the season yes….yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
      He WILL make you money
      He WILL piss you off
      He WON’T be consistent
      He WILL get reported (on field or drink driving not to sure which)
      But above all you need to start him in your Round 1 team and just get on board for the ride.

    • Don’t know about top 4 for the pies.
      But I think collingwood are the most fantasy relevant side. Freeman, de Goey, Moore, Maynard and Scharenberg later in the year will be closely watched in the pre season. Plus guys like swan, pendles, greenwood, Sidebottom, adams, Seedsman, and even though he’s never again, even travis Cloke is underpriced.

      I’m going with just one premium fwd (swan). The rest are mid pricers with Ziebel, titchell, Adams, Walters and Clark. Premium FWD’s are overrated when you can spend the extra 50k or so on guys like fyfe, greene, trealoar, heppel, beams, pendles, barlow etc.. Who will average about 10 points more.

      • The mid pricers you are choosing will score 10 points less than a bunch of the premo forwards, isnt really going to make a difference, just means you will have to use more trades upgrading a heap of mid pricers

    • So you are a Collingwood supporter. That explains a lot!

  • Interesting read, would you have him over Titchell, Bont, Kelly and Walters.

    • Titchell will average the most, but will he play? Bont is unique compared to the others but Bulldogs will try and play him forward a bit too much. Kelly is the least unique but will score second or third highest of these guys. Walters is the cheapest and will score similar to these guys but he isn’t dpp. Adams in my opinion will score exactly the same as Kelly but is a great POD and has more chance of playing midfield as GWS have Treloar, ward, Greene, Griffen etc.. I’ve got titchell, Adams,Walters and ziebel

  • Hard to fit him or any other mid priced forwards in when there are 4 premo locks, plus hogan, Clark, krak and daniel.. I would need krak or daniel to not play at the start to even consider a mid pricer..

  • what are your top 4 rookies for mid and defence?

  • With the DPP I find him impossible to pass up… Which sadly brings back memories of caddy, but I’ll gamble regardless

  • Too much Josh Caddy about him for me to consider. I personally can see him averaging around 82ish, which I don’t see being enough whilst dealing with his injuries, poor attitude and risk of getting dropped due to his appalling disposal. Could quite easily eat my own words though, he’s more than capable of much better than my prediction.

  • Josh Caddy’s an interesting comparison. I haven’t got the patience for another player like that who gets some good scores then some low ones then disappears for a while, J Kelly looks a better option and my favourite player Walters as Rosh said, but given the amount of love for him here Adams has to be looked at.

    I don’t play favorites Warnie and there’s nothing wrong with journalists (ie you guys) getting some scrutiny once in a while and what a great debate it started.

    It’d be great to see more GWS articles, they’ve got the most talented midfield ever assembled in the history of the game and they’re gonna break out left right and center this year. Think we’ve had Treloar, Kelly, Greene and maybe D Smith but how about Whitfield, Coniglio, Hoskin-Elliott, Shiel… are these guys ahead of Adams? Add in Griffen and Ward and there’s 10 potential high-end fantasy relevant players right there, love to get an idea of how they’ll line up this year, they need their own deck.

    • We’re not journos, we’re bloggers. Thanks for starting the debate… but in the case of Taylor Adams not being fantasy relevant, I think you’ve lost.

    • Ok, he’s my quick thoughts selecting GWS players this year.
      You’re completely right in that they do possibly have 10 high scoring possibilities, that is a lot of talent to have in one team, a lot of players demanding the ball.
      He’s the trouble I’ve been having though. It’s still only the same amount of time per game. Where do all the extra points come from?
      Over the last few years the average scores for teams vary between 1500 – 1800ish. Which is a massive differential. Of course this adjust’s more so when you take into account a teams winning/losing stats. Winning teams = higher points ect.
      My struggle with selecting GWS players this year comes with the unknown, when thinking how they’re going to distribute the points between the team. Which players will score consistently? Will a player score consistently? Which player will be tagged? Who will get the most TOG? Which players will play prodominently midfield and which will switch in out of various positions/bench or even wear a vest?
      While I have no doubt that any of these players can and possibly will step up, I’m just really struggling with choosing one and saying with more certainty ‘yep, he’ll be the breakout of the bunch’ (although, gun to my head it’s Kelly who I’m locking in)
      The plus side I see in comparison to these players for Adams is that his JS/opportunity is a lot higher. Especially with Hine, Buckley, Varcoe and literally everyone else talking up the amount of opportunity he’ll be given. The mantle is his to lose at this point which I think makes him the slightly safer bet.
      That’s my humble thoughts though :)

  • Agreed aye aye.. I’m starting with 4 gws mids Greene, trelor, ward and griffen due to there draw and rnd 13 bye.. I think Greene will avg close to 120..

  • Thanks JB at least someone else can see what’s coming, not many sides will stop that Giant midfield this year.

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    Wow I guess this is a blog then, with bloggers.

    Well I’ve learnt two things today, bloggers are not journos, and Taylor Adams appears to be fantasy relevant, certainly it’s not good for your health to suggest otherwise. Looking forward to him linking up with the likes of Pendles, Swan, Blair and Sidebottom and smashing opposition midfields to pieces each week.

    • You live an awesome existence.

    • For the record, just because you aren’t picking him (or any other player) doesn’t make him irrelevant in fantasy or for the Deck of DT. Some other people commenting on the site think we shouldn’t do a Deck on walk up premiums. Go figure.

      You’re passionate, but you come off looking like a massive flog when making comments like your Zac Dawson one. I know you don’t like the official afl fantasy game (and still are under some weird misconception that we actually make the game, have anything to do with who the provider of it is, the rules, etc) and you directed a lot of butthurt at us – specifically me – last year. Take a step back and think about what that was all about? I can tell you’re not stupid and don’t seem like an angry teenager, but we have worked hard to get a gig with the AFL. We get paid to write (blog haha), talk shit, make videos, podcasts etc about something we love and consider a hobby. Is that such a bad thing? As I’ve tried to outline to you in the past, this was in the process mid-2013. We found out that VS weren’t providers after we had signed on. would have that affected our decision anyway? Probably not because this was a goal, a dream… to create a part time job out of something we built from nothing. We do fun shit because of this whole thing. It’s about fun. Don’t lose sight of that.

      Sorry. Long reply. 1). Taylor Adams is relevant… but I’m not picking him (could get him for a ‘bargain’ in draft though). and 2). I’m no journalist.

      • I’m late, but…. good job Warnie. Never let the haters make you second guess yourselves. You guys deserve all the success you’ve had so far. (Except maybe Chopper…)

        On topic, Adams is low on the list for me. I’ll only consider him if I have budget issues and can’t afford my main targets, AND then it also depends on if he fits my bye structure.

  • I like those humble thoughts Anthony. You’re saying the Giants that got away like Tyson and Adams are not fighting a bunch of high picks of about the same age for those mid spots so have more opportunity. Yeah you agree with what I’ve been alluding to in that there are 10 or so potential high scorers but no obvious pecking order at GWS and only so many stats to go around so there’s just no telling who might get the opportunity to regularly rack up tons. They need a lot of scrutiny in the NAB.

    Yeah I’ve pretty much locked in Kelly and probably Treloar whose numbers are incredible as outlined in a previous DDT post (not calling them articles any more because journalists write articles). Interested to see what Coniglio’s doing in the NAB, plus Whitfield. Etc. So much talent…

    The Giants are top six for me, they’re going to murder a lot of other teams.

    • You are a fucking idiot.
      Lose the smug attitude and go do research yourself and stop poluting this site with the shit that you type.

  • I really like the giants for the 8 this year too.. Paying $9 with tab.. They smashed it in the draft picking up griffen who will either take the tag and ward, trelor, Greene, cogs and the rest will run rampant or they will tag someone else and he will tear it up !! Plus Cameron is in good health this year. And they picked up patful who with Davis makes a pretty strong backline.. It’s scary how good they will be in 2 years !!

  • If the Giants make the eight I will start watching the ANZ Championship. Surely you are taking the piss

  • As for Warnies comments. Well said mate, Im jealous my mates and I did not do what you did. Keep having fun and ignore shit heads…

  • Warnie I think you need some anger management counselling, you’re like the fat kid at school whose mother shows up at lunchtime with a big bag of chicken and chips and you expect all the other kids to kiss your ass so that you’ll give them some chips.

    You keep mentioning last year but that was a long time ago Warnie and you need to get over it, I haven’t talked about any of that stuff this year, really couldn’t care anymore if you’re involved with the AFL Fantasy game and getting paid to promote it but you continue defending yourself and AFL Fantasy and bringing up the past. It’s obvious you’re scarred if you’re still shadow boxing at criticism that just isn’t there.

    I’ve made two criticisms all year, one being on that crap sponsored post about Nth Melb which suggested picking up Waite and Higgins, and the second one was here about perhaps wasting a valuable DDT card on an injury prone party boy but Anthony has engaged that with some great follow up comments and we had a good respectful discussion while the best you’ve got is naff ‘go back to your mother’s basement” style insults and posting comments agreeing with yourself under another avatar like hips23 who I’ve never seen post a comment from before, pretty sad mate. Certainly no journalist, too thin skinned and not open to any sort of debate.

    • Shut up mate. If you don’t like this site or the people on it don’t go on it. Everyone that knows stud about afl fantasy knows that adams is a relevant player

    • …and you bounce back with a comment saying I create another profile to agree with myself. Good one.

      I’m not over your mudslinging from last year… and then your first posts of this year was saying we should save “that shit” for the AFL site – to which I took plenty of offence as I’ll back in any of the stuff I ‘write’ for the AFL site is okay.

      Anyway… I surrender, you can have the win. I’ll stay out of your way.

    • Shameless fat joke, further denial of being a prick, attacking someone for defending himself (while defending yourself), 0/10 would not read again

  • Lol Jake, you’re such an expert, have fun with Ziebell he might even play 10 games this year.

    • Long time lurker, made an account just to let you know you’re a bit of a prick for judging other people just because their opinions differ to yours, keep up the good work mate and maybe keep those enlightened opinions to yourself.

    • You must be an expert if you think ziebell won’t play 10 games

  • Jake’s fwd line of Swan, Adams, Ziebell, Titchell, Walters and Clark looks extremely high risk to me but what would I know, don’t know ‘stud’ about AFL.

  • Yep I am Warnie, halfwit

  • For me the new fantasy game is all about value due to the pricing of rookies meaning that we have to look at the mid prices it helps make teams unique and that’s why ill play fantasy. It means that people who have a look at stats and know a little bit about the game and how players are tracking should do better. You have got to risk it in fantasy if you want any reward or a chance at a high finish.
    Adams is super fantasy relevant and if he flops you down/up garde him with one of your two trades a week and your not really behind but if he goes gang busters then you are behind the 8 ball.
    To say that any of these mid prices DoDt are irrelevant is misguided and we’ll plain stupid. Mate don’t have a crack at the authors you aren’t paying them they owe you nothing, Want to moan write your own’Articles’.I pity the fool

  • Went too hard this time Warnie, Anthony had it under control and we had a good debate, that’s what democracy is all about. Last year was a difficult and emotional year for DTers but it’s over, the dice have been cast and it’s all about the footy now, I’m not looking for any “wins” but if you’re coming in from left field to insult me then I’m forced to retaliate.

  • I take your excellent point though The Seaman, I probably need to appreciate the difference between “fantasy relevant” and “RDT relevant” and in that context 50 posts later I accept that Adams is fantasy relevant but I think he’s too risky for RDT where the guns n rookies strategy still holds.

  • Lol and here comes D Day again still searching for a brain cell… D Day you are (as far as I know) just another schmuck like me who comes to this site for tips and info, you don’t own this site and have never contributed anything beyond your foul mouth telling people to shut up etc, you’re not the dag off an Afghan’s ass mate, I may be abrasive and blunt but Warnie wanted me to contribute more and I’m contributing so got more right to be here than you ya fkn low-life parasite.

    The Adams discussion has been the best one yet as we’ve had a debate about midpricers and their relevance to the different fantasy games plus a nuanced analysis of the GWS midfield which has been lacking so far. If you can’t handle a bit of disagreement and debate then go work for Tony Abbott.

  • ….meant to be working, but can’t look away! Got to love a keyboard warrior

  • Haha the keyboard is mightier than the sword hey Vishnu lol :)

    Just a bit of fun, we all love our footy here, football is the winner not me or Warnie.

  • Interesting read fellas, never thought about how GWS’s midfield will distribute the DT points. Adding food for thought. The same would have to go for Brisbane and their returning/off season signings as well as established guns (Rocky).

    • I’ll be completely honest, It’s something that’s been weighing on my mind for awhile, just wasn’t sure how to articulate it.
      It’s just another unknown factor that’s kind of hard to account for until we actually see how they play together. The hard thing is that I don’t think this is a ‘wait till NAB challenge’ kind of thing because most teams still wont be playing their best 22 then. Even so, if we get 5 rounds into the season and a certain player rises above and establishes himself as the points scoring ball winner, you can probably bet that’s the guy who’ll start wearing a tag or at least run with player.
      It’s just added uncertainty that I don’t think comes with a few other players. But yeah, it’s all risk vs reward in the end!