Greater Western Sydney AFL Fantasy Preview

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This series of ‘club preview’ posts are written by DT TALK regular contributors choosing their 5 players they have on their watchlist from the respective club. These aren’t who we think will be the top 5 highest scoring players… and are not necessarily in order. They are just our opinions of the 5 players who we have on our watchlist heading into the 2013 season.

 

GRIFF’S FIVE FROM THE GIANTS

1. Lachie Whitfield – $183,700 Midfield

The third number one pick at the Giants (following on from Patton & Scully) there is a very good reason the kid from Dandenong ended up on top of the draft pool. Averaging 23 disposals per game and two goals per match in the NAB u18 Championships, he is ranked elite for his ball use, especially going forward.

Even better, Lachie loves to kick more than handball, and when his kicks end up in score assists and forward 50 entries (both rated elite by champion data), he’s going to get games. In games he has played which were covered by Champion Data, he scored at least 80 points (Supercoach system) in 31 of 34 games. How many games will he play? Who knows, but if he continues to feed Patton & Cameron the ball lace out, again and again, Sheedy won’t want to drop him. Consider.

2. Toby Greene – $495,700 Midfield

Let’s get one thing straight. Toby Greene will not suffer the much hyped second year blues. Toby has blitzed the preseason, leading the entire GWS playing list in the first 3km time trial, as well as sand dune sprints. He had 30 or more disposals nine times last year, and his run home reads as a veteran premium. From rounds 14 to 23 he scored: 91, 125, 121, 80, 101, 86, 146, 109 & 113. That’s an average of 110 in the final seven rounds of his debut season. The first five rounds of which were against the Swans, Hawks, Crows, Dockers & Pies; when GWS were getting smashed by a near 100pt average!

He won’t be tagged because his ball use isn’t valuable enough, and he won’t be behind other more experienced midfielders in the Giants line-up because, well, there aren’t any other than Ward & Scully, who he played most games with last year. His ball-use isn’t great, but when all he has to do is get it to Coniglio, Whitfield or Scully, it doesn’t matter. He scored 83 from just over a half of football against the Lions, and has to be taken seriously. Toby Greene will average over 100 this season, from a possible 20 to 22 games, and could go close to a 110 average. Consider.

3. Setanta o’hAilpin – $157,700, Ruck / Forward

Big Irish was dropped by Carlton in a fight for the last spot on their list at the end of 2011. Picked up by the Giants who desperately needed a mobile ruck/utility player, o’hAilpin’s debut couldn’t have been worse, going down with a knee injury after scoring 34 points in the first half. He is under-priced, and a little under-done, but he kicked three goals in the Giants intra-club game and had four score assists.

His presence up forward allows Cameron and Patton to play off their man with a little more ease, and it also means Giles can rest forward with less impact at centre clearances  He won’t set the world on fire, but for a player who should play most games, carry that Ruck/Forward link, and go close to his 2011 average of mid 70s. Watch.

4. Jonathon Patton – $183,300 Forward

Let’s make this simple. Here you have a number one draft pick, who is basically at the same price as if he was drafted this year, but he has had a full preseason after being played well and truly under-done last season. Yes he is a key position prospect, so his scores will jump from 90s to 40s, but he is there to make money, and GWS will play him every chance they get.

Patton comes with a risk, but if he strings a few good games together, his price will rocket. And yes, with two trades you could trade him in before that happens, but only if you have the coin to trade him in; for example going from Neade ($108,500) to Patton will cost a cool $75k. It’s easier to start with him and then trade him out if it’s not working, than to do the opposite. Consider.

5. Callan Ward – $501,300 Midfield

The GWS co-captain was brilliant last season, winning more clearances, tackles and possessions than any other player in orange and taking home the Giants Best and Fairest. This season we should see Ward continue his rise as a workhorse inside midfielder who takes no prisoners. In 2012 we saw his average jump from 81.7 at the Bulldogs to 97.4 at the Giants, and in 2013 we should see it jump again, well over 100.

Coming into just his sixth season, and with 74 games under his belt, Wards midfield dominance is only just beginning. Whether it will be enough for you to take a punt on him in your starting line-up is up to you, but if he is still around in your Elite/UF drafts in the lower rounds, you’ve snagged yourself a bargain. Watch.

 

OTHERS ON THE WATCHLIST:

GWS is all over the shop with midpriced players. Sheedy’s dedication to rotate players last year means you’ll be paying an inflated price for just about any second year Giant. One exception to this is Josh Growden ($108,500 – Midfield / Forward) who missed last season with a broken leg. He was up and running by round 16, but the Giants see huge potential in him and don’t want to rush him back. A hip clean-out in December has stalled his preseason, but the elite ball user should break into the side and when he does, he may be the seasons best downgrade target.

Anthony Miles ($346,400 – Midfield) is on a few watchlists with the ball magnet a Dream Team pig in the making, but be warned; he only played seven games last season and six of those were when Coniglio & Shiel were out. He will have to work very hard to break into the top 22 and cement his place. With any luck he will.

Whether you think he is worth one million a season or not, you won’t have to fork that much out to get Tom Scully ($380,700 – Midfield). He’s bulked up a lot since last season, where he played a very effective run-with role. It’s easy to forget that this will just be Scully’s fourth year in the AFL system, and last season he match Trent Cotchin in Champion Data ranking points for a third year player. Look for similar improvement this year from the recruiters son.

If you’re after bargain players, Kristian Jaksch ($134,200 – Defender / Forward) is the pick for me. Jaksch (pronounced Jacks) is a utility player who can swing forward or back, but has been training with the defenders group. A minor knee complaint has left him out of the NAB until now, but he should be available this week.

At this point Patton is in and out of my team on a daily basis, Greene is in and out based on if I want to risk Ball or Embley or not, and o’hAilpin & Whitfield seem settled on my bench. It’ll be a year of big improvements in Western Sydney this year, and that only bodes well for Dream Team.

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29 Comments

  • Avatar of Maverick86

    Good synopsis
    Whitfield is very very tempting, I can see him outscoring recent first draft picks in debut year Coniglio and Swallow and pumping out close to 75ppg
    I’m keeping a close eye on Treloar. The kid is a gun and late last yr and this preseason seems to be spending lots of time in mids, and kicking goals. Risky proposition at $425k though, but I think he can average very close to 100ppg. Greene is a less risky proposition because I have no doubt he will average over 100 and won’t need upgrading at any stage

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      To quote Luke Darcy, I love the way he goes about it. Treloar attacks the contest with rare ferocity which if controlled will see him be one of the Giants most valuable players. His ability to go forward will bode well for this season, as GWS have way too many midfielders and he may avoid rotations out of the squad by being able to play off the half forward line.

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see him average close to 90 this season, but I think that his role at the moment will rely heavily on kicking goals if he was to push a 100 point average. Always happy to be proven wrong however.

    • Avatar of Fyfe4Lyfe

      Averaging high late can be attributed to a number of factors though, so I’d be slightly wary at that price

  • Avatar of Maverick86

    *Whitfield to pump out close to 80ppg, not 75

  • Avatar of Reprobates

    Whifield as an alternative to Moloney? May not be a big difference in average. 126k be very useful elsewhere.

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      The biggest difference between the two (apart from average, which I think will be around the 10-15ppg mark, if that Moloney is unlikely to be rest unless hurt. Whitfield is likely to get rested is sore or tired or Sheedy thinks it’s best.

      If you are willing to run the risk of needing to rely on rookies for those weeks, it’s worth considering, but if you want your on-field starters to play every week then the two aren’t really comparable.

  • Avatar of kelonwheels

    What about Dom Tyson Griff? He looks like he could really kick on this year after a good finish to 2012. I wanna give him a spot in my mids but there are so many I guess smarter vanilla or at least strawberry choices. I am a fan of rum ‘n’ raisin but will go chocolate if it is all there is.

    I missed him as a free agent in my draft league because I was trying to trade out some others and now am kicking myself so if you say he will do not much better in 2013 then I will probably feel better.

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      Dom injured his leg (PCL from memory) and won’t be back in action until mid-season. He may be a worthwhile downgrade option when he does debut, but bye that stage you’ll be wanting your team close to set – so may be too expensive this season.

      • Avatar of kelonwheels

        Griff, you know how to put a smile on a not clever man’s dial. Sorry for him but it makes my day a bit happier. Actually that is poor form – hope he runs out earlier than expected and rips it up.

  • Avatar of Lukey85

    Thanks Griff. Toby is well and truly in contention for the Mid 5 position.

    Am I crazy to even slightly consider Giles as #1 ruck (with Cox in the forward line)? Had a couple of really quiet games last year but for some reason I see more upside in him than Jacobs/McEvoy/Mummy etc at this stage.

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      Giles does have a big upside, namely in that when he goes forward he kicks goals. He is closer to a Cox-type ruckman than a McIntosh or Sandilands as it’s his around the ground mobility that makes him valuable, more so than his tap-work. I see him averaging around the 80-95 points per game (yes it’s a large forecast, but he will be up and down) this year if he stays fit, so if that’s what you’re after in a ruckman then he’s worth considering.

      • Avatar of Lukey85

        Agreed. Mature aged, big-bodied, #1 ruck and another preseason yadda yadda yadda the second year blues don’t really apply to Giles either.

        Starting to tick all my boxes!

  • Avatar of Rubitonurnuts

    o’Halpin and Whitfield settled on your bench ? Bit too much $ sitting there for my liking esp with 2 trades per week available

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      It makes it a hell of a lot easier to downgrade if I miss a rookie priced player than if I don’t have to funds. Also, I like my players to play enough games in a row to go up in price. Rowe if the only other value R/F and I’m not so sure he will be of value. Setanta also extends my ruck bench and forward bench as he will play.

      Whitfield is bench by name only, as some weeks he may be on the field, some weeks he may not depending on rookie form.

  • Avatar of johnny fontane

    anyone else uneasy at whitefields ultra light frame? yeah he’s a super talented player but against the mature bodies in the midfield in competitive matches i feel like they’ll have his way with him. no way he averages 80 like people here are suggesting, unless gws get destroyed every week so badly that he just racks up garbage time points. he’ll average 60 max which still isn’t that bad for a rookie but for that wines, vlastuin, omeara, are much better value for money.

    • Avatar of RLGriffin

      It’s worth noting that Whitfield will not be at centre bounces and playing an in-and-under role. He will likely play on the wing or half forward flank a bit more out of the way, where his disposal use is more valued going forward. Pretty much the opposite of Ollie Wines who needs the bigger frame.

      This outside running role should work well with his lighter frame, a bit like Isaac Smith in his debut year.

      I’m not sure how much GWS games you watched, you know, ever, but suggesting the Giants players get junk-time points when they’re getting smashed is up there with suggesting Franklin’s constantly increasing conceded free kick count stems from the umpires not liking him. It’s just wrong.

  • Avatar of Aidan

    Varcoe and Neade OR Wines and Patton

  • Avatar of Glennbarclay

    I like the looks of Treloar. any one else?

  • Avatar of Ditts

    Great write up griff, helpful as always. Tossing up between Varcoe and Patton at the moment. Varcoe could be a real smokey but at the same token could be a stupid decision, patton is much the same. However if i did bring patton into my team i would be able to upgrade lower to Greene which I’m quite keen on doing so. Help me out?

  • Avatar of dan talbot

    i have heard from a former of whitfields that he will only be playing 10-12 games this year at afl level.

  • Avatar of Fyfe4Lyfe

    Great article RLGriffin!

    I reckon Sheedy’s forecast of 10-12 games for Whitfield is apt. Having said that I won’t need him to play 22 as long as he averages great early, enough to upgrade him early.

    Shhhh on Setanta…

    Patton a viable alternative to the forward midpricers like Varcoe, Byrnes etc., but his body seems a little fragile. Strongly considering still.

  • Avatar of AFFEL

    Suprised Treloar didnt get a mention .. averaged over 100 in his last 4 games i think ?

  • Avatar of Carlile4Coleman

    Whitfield and Hartlett or Greene and Pittard/Colquhoun/Stevenson?

  • Avatar of Matthew

    griff what about big man Giles does he look good i am thinking of picking him up in draft based fantasy because i could get him later on . does he look like this year will be an improvement in consistency or average?

  • Avatar of sandman0906

    Cheers ill keep a look-out for Kristian Jaksch…any cheap forward line option is welcome this year.

    Looking for serious DT’ers for a sportsbet.com.au league 215934 scoring is a bit different from DT 12 for a goal etc. Please serious/experienced people only.

  • Avatar of Modern Marvels

    Thooughts on Devon Smith Griff?
    Had 3 consecutive tons late in the season…

  • Avatar of

    Loving the series lads, great work!

    There will be some serious smokies from this club in 2013…