Brent Stanton- Deck of Dream Team 2013

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Name: Brent Stanton
Club: Essendon
Position: Mid
Assistant Coach 2013 Price: $548,900
Bye Round: 13
2012 Average: 107
2012 Games Played: 20
Predicted Average: 108

Why should I pick him?

If you are anything like me, I get sucked in by a high ceiling. I tell myself ‘if they can do it once or even twice, what is to say they can’t do something close to that on a regular basis?’ That is why Brent Stanton always makes it to my short list. This year, he has to be there again after posting his career best average of 107, surpassing his previous best of 106 the year before. OK, back to those thumping scores that can’t help but catch my eye. In 2012 “the good Stants” ran a muck for scores of 140, 153, 175 and wait for it…… 193 if you don’t mind! Anybody priced at 107 and have the potential to go that big must be considered!

Stants is a durable unit, never playing under 20 games in a season for the last 7 years and the one before that in 2005 he still managed 19. His style of play rarely puts him in danger of succumbing to injury so I would expect his great run to continue this year.

When he is on, he is really on! In 2012, between the rounds of 6 and 8, Stanton was absolutely brutal, and by far the most dominant and sought fantasy player within this period. His scores of 193, 140 and 124 left him with a 3 week average of 152, pretty nasty numbers if you were gutsy enough to make him captain!

Consistency is not usually a word associated to Stanton but his start to the 2012 season was nothing short of it. Between round 1 and 14 be dropped below 100 just 4 times with 2 of those scores in the 90’s and a worst of 77.

Marking is what sets Stanton apart for a lot of mids, as he displays a great ability to find space and receive uncontested marks. He displayed this perfectly in rounds 4 and 6 where he managed a ridiculous 17 for the game.

Playing alongside a Brownlow medalist tends to make him the second in line for a tag so at times he gets a free run of things which is great from a fantasy owners perspective.

Why shouldn’t I pick him?

Because he has to go down as one of the most frustrating players in the history of the game. Last year, Stanton began his downfall in round 15 after offering the world in what was a sensational start to the season. Up until this point, his coaches from the start were rightfully bragging, and coaches that had detoured from their original plans and traded him in were riding the Stants train all the way to FJ Cruiser town.

If anybody can make you eat your words and rub it in for weeks on end, it’s Brent. Between rounds 15 and 22 (when we need wins) Stanton produced a best score of 85 to compliment his 61 and 62 in that time. Now I know we can’t always expect freak scores but that was 132 less than round 6. Pretty big drop off, especially doing it twice in 3 weeks.

So the main reason not to pick Stanton is because I worry for your mental health on the back of this emotional rollercoaster. I have watched a close friend in Calvin go through this, and although deep down I thoroughly enjoyed it, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

 

Deck of DT Rating.

King – My natural instincts made me want to put him as a queen due to his horrible drop off in 2012 but out for respect for what he displayed early, he is well and truly worthy of King status and undoubtedly has the ability to take his game to the next level and become an Ace. Statistically he played 8-9 games at that level and held one of the best averages for a large portion of the season. Buy at your own risk and put the DT helpline on speed dial. Having said that, he is a very justifiable selection.

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57 Comments

  • Noooooooo why did you do it? He was my POD! S’pose I might as well spill the beans on his other big secret now- the loophole. You can throw a VC on him with Swan/GAJ as back-up and you’ll have nothing to lose but a possible captained 140+ in the bag.

    • The other line of thinking was that he now sits 3rd in the to-tag queue behind Jobe and Goddard. This will allow him to maintain his form for longer into the season before teams consider shutting him down. What do you reckon people? Is Goddard ahead of Stanton in the tagger’s hit list?

      • Yeah I’m probably picking Stanton too for exactly the same reasons. Goddard is more damaging than Stanton so I’d say he’d get tagged first.

  • Great work Roy.
    I remember furiously saving up to get Stanton in last year and coming up just short so I never got his back half results!
    Unfortunately I don’t have the nads to take the ride this year and given his bye my upgrade target this year is Watson and not Stanton.

  • Well written Roy. I have never seen any analysis as to what happened to Stanton when he dropped off. Be interesting to know if that factor has been fixed and he is good for a 110+ average.

    • Teams started to part tag him because they realised stopping his run/ loose ball gets would stifle there mid and go along way to winning by stopping their scoring. Add to that, the team was suffering its worst run of injuries and they couldn’t get their best team on the park, putting more of the load on him. Also i remember that he was reported to have a sore calf or hammy?
      To me thats why he could be such a great POD. If the team stays fit, with Goddard added to the middle, wont he be that much better? i think he may just average closer to 115.

    • I recall him being sampled at half-forward for a game or two and then general-soreness-turned-hamstring-strain eating away at him for a while and ultimately responsible for him being sidelined. Essendon are going with a more endurance-focused preseason in which he has been absolutely dominating. This should suit his body better and see him running out a full season. I think he got tagged at various stages too (which he doesn’t handle well due to his primarily outside play), which is why I pondered in the comments above if Goddard adds further protection from taggers.

    • The tag was the big factor on his scores. Those games of around 60 were disgusting to watch. I was one of those bragging as I had him from round 1, and was loving it (even though I screwed up and missed putting the C on a few of his big scores).

      As much as I want to select him, his 2nd half of season rollercoaster was pretty damn hard to take. And even though he got plenty of very high scores, in the end he averaged out less than a number of other players who were more consistent. I’ll stick with my original plan I think.

  • No for me. I’m still getting my head read for picking Broughton in 2013 DT. Imagine the agony of having both. No thank you.

  • P.S.

    BOO!

  • Good read. In fairness, the Bombers will challenge this year, Jobe and Goddard probably get the main focus and Stanton could very well the driving force of the bombers. If midfield spots werent so tight he’d get a look in this year from me despite never owning him before but pretty sure I’ll be well and truly out of cash by the time I come around to his possie.

  • Wow even with those giant scores he was only able to manage 107, interesting to see how Goddard affects his game though.

    No for me. Cant do it. way better options at that price. Nice one though Roy

  • He was on my shortlist. Then I read DT Talk……………..Nek minut he’s in my team.

    • Good. I want him to be unique, but I was scared of riding the roller coaster completely on my own. I don’t need to confide in anyone when he busts out a 170 but when the coaster hits a trough, I need to go through the misery with someone.

  • I’m definitely keeping an eye on him! The fact that he has the ability to score 190 and Essendon have plenty of early games in the Rnd means he should be a great player for he weekly loophole!

    Just an interesting stat on Stanton:
    After 9 rounds Essendon were 8-1 and Stanton averaged 130
    From rounds 10-23 Essendon went 3-10 and Stanton averaged 88

    If Essendon can stay injury free i can see them pushing the top 4, which will mean their better players will be on the park reducing the pressure on Stanton and the likely hood of him being tagged. IMO Stants will average somewhere around the 115 mark next year.

    • i’m enjoying everyone’s comments more than the article!
      I’ve had him in my first two mid selections from the start but have cooled slightly. I also feel that his form was poor the later half of the season due to injury and ess being pretty terrible in general.

    • Nice stat, when the dons are winning, Stanton smashes it up… seems worth a gamble to me as I’m expecting the dons to do well this year.

  • You guys ever thought of doing a literal deck. There seems to be a lot of Kings, Queens and Jacks in this deck ;) Maybe you could look at Chris Dawes as maybe a 3 of clubs and then Dane Swan being the Ace of Spades. Nice write up though. This guy would be awesome if he could find some consistency

    • Hey Guys,
      This would be a great idea. Would almost be like DTT’s idea of Sheahan’s Top 50 – steal his thunder a bit. Would create a heap of debate on the site, and at least it would remove the constant confusion about whether the Deck should be listing the predictable or the obscure – you’d have a clear bit of both, and you’d know where you guys/the authors rated each person featured in DoDT. All this while still giving us the best pre-season survey around.

  • I don’t think I can start anyone in my mids who averaged 88 over 13 rounds. Perhaps an upgrade target.

  • I had him on my radar until now. After the article he was still only on my radar, but now having read the comments I think I’m convinced! He did have a niggle for the last half of the year and Essendon were hit by injuries. Goddard does it for me, surely he won’t be getting a tag ahead of Jobe and BJ so he is now MID 4!

    • Crap. I was trying to convince people of my sanity in picking him, not to the point of them actually picking him too!

      • Yeah I think he’s actually too injury prone and will get tagged ahead of Watson and Goddard. He will be a terrible pick, people shouldn’t be picking him ;)

        • Yep. He is an absolute spud people, don’t touch him with a 10 foot pole :)

          • He’s in until Pendles Deck of DT, then he will be gone. Then he will be back during the NAB cup. Then gone. Then the pattern will continue :(

  • It’s pretty tough to pick the mighty Stant when he shares a bye round with Swan, Beam, Pendle, Murph, GAJ et al. Spent last night on team picker ’13 for the first time since last season…and woke up with Dangerman, Redden and Lids clanging around in my head. FuDT and fmRL.

  • I’m gonna try start with Swan, Gaz and Stants. If they all bust out 160+ in the first round then i’ve got the car locked up! (even though Kiwis can’t win it).

    Chur chur!

    But seriously, i’m not taking this seriously enough this year for me to be scared of Stanton. He makes DT fun.

    • POK

      Swan, GAJ, Boyd, Pendles, Stants all pumping out huge scores – WOW!!!

    • Not sure why so many have both ablett and swan, you need one for sure as your go to captain, but they are both so expensive and there are so many underpriced mid premiums that are more tasty like murphy and stants.

      • Because they are safe choices and average 10 more than anyone else :) They will outscore those cheaper premiums comfortably hence they are more expensive…

  • Nice work Roy!

    Stants is very tempting, I even had him in my team picker squad for a bit.

    But Swan, Ablett, Pendles and Murphy are already locked in for me… having Stants at M5 would be suicide for the round 13 bye.

    • I agree. Im looking at flooding my fwds and rucks with non rnd 13 players this year.

  • Could also be a steal in the draft games. Can imagine picking him up when other people are going for Thompson, Swallow etc then when he’s averaging 130 in the first 6 rounds finding the biggest retard in your league who’ll think he will maintain that average and make an absolute bargain trade.

  • I just can’t accept such extreme variation in scoring in my team. Not good for my health

    • Yeah it’s a thrill ride having him. But compare him to someone who will average exactly the same but is really consistent. Overall you will score exactly the same amount of points, then with the loophole captaincy you can pinch a big score or two. So unless I’m mistaken, the inconsistent player is better?

      • POK

        exactly the reason I’ll probably go Stanton over Redden. Probably end up averaging the same. Stants will no doubt piss me off, but with the captaincy loophole the enjoyment could be twice as fun

  • Stants or Cotchin…

    I’m gong Cotchin.

    I reckon both Goddard and Stanton will be tagged ahead of Watson due to the fact that they are easier to frustrate and tag out of a game. Watson just keeps going no matter what.

  • Expect Stanton (and the bombers, mind you) to start the season off really well, and then drop off somewhere around mid-season.

    For that reason, I think I will most likely start with him. Get off to a good first half of the year, and then when he turns to shit, trade him (with so many trades this year, it is a great option!)

    Has a high ceiling, game is suited to DT, and is probably right now in the prime of his career (age/experience wise).

  • Did a bit of research into Stanton’s scores and how they are affected with Zaharakis playing.

    Brent Stanton

    2012 Average: 106.5 average

    Average with Zaharakis in the team: 116.6

    Average with Zaharakis injured: 88.5

    Now this could just be a coincidence, but Stants finished 2011 very strong… as did Zaha.

    • Interesting, Stanton plays better with Zaharakis in the team……. Is that because Zaharakis is getting tagged when he plays?

      • its because with zaharakis out, stanton had to try and play his role instead (burst from packs) rather than his natural game of just running where ever there is space

    • I think it is because Zaharakis also provides another outside option with his run and precise kicking, but can also play inside and get a few contested possessions. It would be interesting to see how many of Zaharakis’ kicks/handballs went directly to Stanton in the first half of the year (i’m betting quite a few, resulting in lots of +6′s for Stants).

  • definitely in, had him every year since he was a rookie. I had him as captain last season for a few of those massive scores. He will be my captain in rd1. Fantasy freako would tell you he is the highest rd 1 scorer for 3 of the last 4 years (or something like that).

    With even greater endurance from a pre-season tailored for it, Goddard added to the midfield along with Heppell in there with a fit Zaharakis, Stanton will be left to run free and dominate

    skip over him at your peril

    • Haha yeah, 153, 138, 145, 125 his last 4 round 1 scores. Essendon play the opening match of the season. VC loophole thank you very much.

  • Nice 1 Roy .. Great write-up you could sell ice to the eskimos.

    To whom it may concern :b

    You can dress Stanton up to look like Swan with all your stats, who he plays well with , which coloured jocks he plays well in and loopholes but at the end of the day he’s still just Stanton. Not for me ….. GO DONS

  • Stannnnntooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Seriously, why can’t the guy either suck or be a leet premium mid-fielder. I think at the same price, Mark Murphy is a safer bet, but the high Stanton ceiling always has that ‘what if’ factor. The question is, what is worse, picking Stanton and getting burned when he tanks half the season and punches out 60s, or not picking Stanton in the year he finally pulls a Swanny? Stannnnnnntooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

  • Ahhh nothing sweeter than 1000′s of people ruining their dreamteams .. pick him go on :)

  • For those planning to use Stanton for the VC loophole due to the early games, you may actually be doing yourself more harm than good.

    Say for instance Stanton puts out a 130 with Swan and Ablett to play. Would you take it? Common sense says you should bank it, but when you look at the fact that in 2012 Swan had 9 scores over 130 (including 5 above 150) and Ablett 5 scores over 130 you may talk yourselves out of keeping the 130.

    If you plan to use him this way, be prepare to make a tough decision most weeks.

    Keep the 130 and Swan/Ablett fails you look like a genius. Keep the 130 and they push out 150+ and you’ll be kicking yourself.

    All I am saying is that you may have a few more grey hairs by season end!

    • Good points raised there and I’d look back to Calvin’s Captains off-season article and the three options raised there. At the time, I decided the best option was the “bank your VC if you predict your C to score lower than what your VC scored” option, whilst keeping the “looplock” option in mind. So if Stants scores 130 and Ablett/Swan is playing a team he consistently goes big against, I’d take Gaz/Swan. But I wouldn’t lose sight of the looplock and if he gets maybe 145+ I’d bank Stants.

    • That is the exact same for any other player you use the VC loophole on. Say you use it on Scotty Thompson who pumps out a 130. What are you going to do? Your left with the exact same dilemma. Except with Stanton that score could be more like a 150+

  • F U Deck of DT!!! should I, shouldn’t I?? Some great points for, some great points against… nahhh… but wait! He made a great point there… but seriously averaging 88 last 13 games!! can’t pick him… yeah but he’s killing it preseason and shouldn’t cop the tag much now with Goddard in… OH SHUT THE F#$% UP PEOPLE!!!! I need a frickin panadeine!!!

  • Had him all of last year. Was awesome when he scored huge against Carlton and Brisbane, but when I needed him down the stretch his 60′s and 70′s just killed me when I ran out of trades. I can’t do that to myself 2 years in a row.

    He is a guy that I don’t believe gets his own ball. I have watched him closely. He does skirt around the packs and claps his hands to a teammate to feed him the ball. I was watching him closely (when I captained him) when he got tagged out of the game against the Pies at Anzac Day by Marty Clarke. They just shut down his space to run into. He loves his freedom and if you can close that space down I believe he does struggle.

    I am looking for guys that really get in and under for first possessions. Guys like Cotchin, Ablett and Pendles. I don’t believe taggers really can stop their ball winning ability.