Griff’s Grenades: Round 11

Round the Twist

Welcome to tbetta’s bullets Griff’s Grenades! Tbetta flagged earlier in the week with the Dream Team Talk crew that he would not be able to write up the bullets over the next fortnight as he was busy studying something other than Dream Team. Personally I think he knew what was coming and wanted out… The first round of our Multi-Bye Rounds (MBR) came, saw, and they were nothing short of repulsive.

On a long weekend (for most of the country) when all is right in the world, we are supposed to sit down and be able to enjoy our football. For a brief moment in a thrilling game on Saturday night we were allowed to do that. But even a four point thriller couldn’t hold out reality.

Our weekend of misery started on Friday night. I knew we were in trouble early when Joel Selwood was on 2 points with eight minutes to go in the first quarter. Bryce Gibbs was tagging Stevie J out of the game in defence, Mitch Robinson was in the line for a hot pie from the end of the first quarter until the final fifteen minutes, Stephenson was subbed out on 26 points, Matthew Kreuzer was running water and Corey Enright played as if he was a late withdrawal.

It didn’t get much better on Saturday. Aaron Sandilands was subbed out in the first quarter after stubbing his toe scoring just 10 points (one for each toe?), Deledio came crashing back to earth with 78 points, Dustin Martin gave us reason to argue, chipping in with a 68. Jumping Jack Riewoldt who had a negative breakeven of 35 coming into the round after two monster scores of 135 and 147 hurt his ankle in the first quarter and score 58. To make it worse, De Boer scored a massive 147 points which just pissed us off more as only 1% of coaches actually own the bugger.

As if things couldn’t get any worse, over at Metricon Stadium, Gary Ablett Jnr was raising his middle finger to all those who said that last weeks fifty-three possessions meant nothing to the side, by refusing to go near the ball. The whole Dream Team universe went into meltdown when Ablett limped to a mere 61, raising the bounty on a certain Irish Pirates head to near the starting value of Ablett. If you happened to have the other Roo in Nick Riewoldt, or second year player Arryn Siposs, then you may have been feeling optimistic heading into Saturday night. It wouldn’t last.

In a thriller at Etihad, the Swans got off to a flyer, which is the exact opposite of what Brett Boo Stanton was doing, who had a total of 23 points at the half time break. Nick Malceski was keeping the bench warm for the swans as the starting sub and Shane Mumford just kept shedding the dollars as he finished with 68. Watson was the only standout in a match that will be remembered for Dempsey running out on the Buddy Arc, hearing the siren, realising that he shouldn’t be on said arc, and the umpires telling him it was all too late.

Come Monday, nobody really cared about their Dream Teams anymore. 1,500 points was looking like a solid score, and quite frankly, the sooner the MBRs are over the better. Oh but wait, we have another game. And it’s the Pies vs Melbourne. Surely only good things could happen right? Well as much as I would usually think Alan Didak having a sore groin would be both entertaining and good, having personally traded him into my team this week, like so many others, his red vesting on 6 just about saw my laptop disappear out the back window about as fast as when Didak made a run from that car crash.

Eventually, Beams and Sidebottom had a massive one, but by the end of the round, who gave a toss? Swan’s back! But he has the bye this week. Thomas was tagged or something, Grimes did good, I guess, and Elliot and Williams didn’t get subbed off thanks to Alan… sigh. Let’s look at the Makers and Breakers, this is all too depressing.

 

Makers

His first quarter on Friday Night may have resembled the start Jack Watt’s career thus far, but Joel Selwood really brought it home. Joel piled on two 34 point quartes and a 42 point quarter to finish with a respectable 122. After an absolute shocker last week, the Geelong captain gave us something to smile about in the Cats two goal win over the Blues. He wasn’t the only captain to have big ones this weekend with two others both smashing out decent scores.

Both Nick Riewoldt and Jobe Watson were standouts for their teams, scoring 136 and 131 respectively. If you were lucky enough (and I do mean lucky) to put any of these three captain of your team then you did well. All three were not showing signs of great form coming into these games, so your captaincy choice here would have been very risky, and well done to you.

The other two to make the makers list were last week villains, in Dane Beams and Steele Sidebottom. Scoring a massive 305 between them, or 155 and 150, the two Dual Position Players from Collingwood almost made this week bearable. Turning around last weeks atrocity (okay, Beams wasn’t that bad), the dynamic duo were everywhere for the Queens Birthday match posting a combined 76 possessions, 13 tackles, 16 marks and two goals.

Others who deserve mention: Jack Grimes, Dane Swan (he’s back!), Kade Simpson, Trent Cotchin, Matthew De Boer (except nobody owns him), Brad Ebert and Arryn Siposs.

Breakers

There are some very popular names in the breakers this week. Be it a Pirate curse, or a general state of who gives a… care in the world, Gary Ablett Jnr this round ripped the hearts out of Dream Team coaches everywhere. Although having an average over the past two rounds of near 130, his 61 in a round where for many he was a sole captain choice is just devastating. I’m sure he will be back to his best soon, but the auto-lock captain option will not be selected anytime soon.

 Stevie J is another who had a massive fall from grace, and his 60 was infuriating for anyone who has recently traded in the live wire. Luckily he wasn’t cited for any wrestling offenses by the MRB and can have a week off to think about what he has done. He may be down at the Cattery this week, but for many he lays squarely in the dog house.

The second you hear Aaron Sandilands, Toe & Injury, you fear the worst, and for big 211 the worst is what we get. Not only was it a mere 10 points in the ruck when stocks were thin devastating, the news that he will now miss 8 to 10 weeks rubs salt into a very painful wound.

Bryce Gibbs and Alan Didak round out this weeks breakers and there isn’t much that needs to be said. Dids will be rage traded out by those who can afford it, and for those who can’t, you’ll just have to suck it up. With any luck he can be a floating bench option late in the season between your forward and midfield lines. If not, all who traded him in knew what they were getting. As for Gibbs, it’s clear that Ratten just doesn’t think he is best winning the ball. When McLean is the go to ball user before Gibbs, you know what you have to do. Yes he has plummeted funds, yes he could turn it around, but the fact is, until he does turn it around, he is a very expensive bench warmer as you can have no faith in him anymore.

Dishonourable mentions: Corey Enright, Orren Stephensen, Jarred Redden, Nick Malceski, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt and Matthew Kreuzer.

 

Tweets

The current reports out there are that Sandilands will be out with Turf Toe for eight to ten weeks. No matter how much you may love him, you have to trade. Any other year having nine trades remaining at the end of round eleven would be terrible, this year however with the amount of Long Term Injuries (LTI) we’ve seen, it’s almost good. Your obvious option to trade is Cox, Goldstein or Jacobs. All have had their bye, and it means you can sit tight with them for the rest of the year. Cox is the obvious option, but he will cost you about $60,000 to reach him with Sandilands expect to drop nearly $30k.

Goldstein has been in great form, and with McIntosh out for another month, he could hold his form, and scoring power, he’s close to a straight swap. The riskiest option is Jacobs, who has been, well, average this year. He is the sole ruckman for the Crows, they have a good draw to end the season, he’s averaging 80 points, and is unlikely to get dropped. He’ll also net you a nice $50,000. The choice is yours, but for me, if you can find the money for Cox, that’s where I’d look.

 

Firstly, let me say how disgusting it is that the AFL allows Essendon to name Zaharakis on Friday evening, to play Saturday, when he strained his quad before lodgement! Now to the question: If you don’t have Beams, get him. Take him as a mid, forward, whatever, he can score massive and should he stay fit, could average close to 110 for the rest of the year.

As for when you get him this week or next as a direct trade for Zaharakis depends on if you are in a must win league game next week. Unless you really need someone on the field, consider Dangerfield or if you really want the cash and don’t have him, Zorko. Both have had the bye and based on current form could average similar to Zaha for the rest of the year. Just understand the risk in bringing in a rookie to play on your field for the rest of the year. That said, if you don’t need to win next week, and you want Beams, just take another donut. It the current climate, it will go by unnoticed.

 

I can, but put simply, probably not. Armstrong has a history that needs to be considered when drafting into your team almost as long as Heath Shaw’s. But since people are still considering Heater, let’s take a glossy look anyway. In 2010 when at the Crows he was found guilty of drink driving, putting him on a club imposed suspension for a month. He also spent twelve weeks working with a crash victim rehabilitation centre in an attempt to get him on the straight and narrow. Thankfully he credits the Crows for salvaging his career and managed to play a few late games last season. He does however have a history of knee injuries, the most recent of which is why it has taken him so long to break into the Swans team this year.

An elite kick, he finally got a full game this week and we saw a nice 77 from the young defender who does have the potential to score decently. Unfortunately he is priced at near $270,000 and has been the starting sub twice suggesting he isn’t match fit. As much as I would love to see Armstrong up and running and reliable in any Dream Team squad, I don’t see it happening this season.

Round 12

Looking ahead at next week we have more of the same with Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, Melbourne and Sydney all missing. This means that of the 41 players who scored over 100 points this round, 25 of them will be playing minigolf instead of AFL. More so, it means the likes of Selwood, Johnson, Chapman, Beams, Sidebottom, Swan, Watson, Stanton, Broughton, Barlow, Grimes and Mumford will add to a very expensive bench for Dream Team coaches.

Hopefully our premiums won’t put on another showing of limbo (how low can you go?) and pump out some big scores. To be honest, I’m not holding my breath. Instead, I might go to the movies Friday night, golfing Saturday, and visit the in-laws on Sunday. After all, anything is better than nothing when it comes to these bye rounds. I need a drink.

 

Keep dreaming dreamers!

401 Comments

  • been trading all year for a shot at winning round 12. expect to score in excess of 2200 with:-

    deledio, scotland, goddard, suckling, gram, hurn, lake, emerg. morris

    ablett, boyd, thompson, redden, mitchell, swallow, emerg. treloar or adams

    giles, goldstein emerg. redden or jenkins

    franklin, robinson, dangerfield, reiwoldt.n.,
    whitecross, martin, higgins emerg. zorko

    hope this is good enough to beat the shonks who make up a team just for this round. not sure whether to play higgins, but he’s on etihad against port so will probably stick with him and hope he’s not the sub. half hoping he gets dropped though. anybody think they can compete???

    “bluesnews”

    • Shouldn’t really attempting that. The chances of you winning are still very low. You are screwed next week? How’d u go last week?
      Just think of how many points u will and would have lost by not having Swan/Pendles/Jelwood or having Sidey/beams/chappy instead of Whitex and Higgins.
      Yes Swanny and Pendles have been injured but not going with one of them from now on will harm your overall rankings by seasons end.

      • i know it’s a risk and anything could happen but last year i won both my leagues and frankly it wasn’t that big a thrill. however in one round my team came eighth and that was great fun, so decided to have a crack at a round win early this year. won 2 out of 3 leagues last week and will win all 3 this week and probably lose all 3 next week! top scores last round were 2167 followed by 2100 so reckon top 10 is almost a certainty this week with a good shot at the $500. picked round 12 so i could avoid the collingwood and essendon scumbags, so quite happy not to have swine or pundlebum or sidearse or blimp.

    • Good luck. My GF is trying exactly the same strategy – happily for Round 13, so fingers crossed we both get up!

      Here is her line-up for Round 13:

      M. Johnson, Broughton, Waters, Grimes, Adcock, H. Shaw, Hargrave (S. Shaw, Ellis)

      Swan, Pendles, Boyd, Thompson, Watson, Thomas (Shiel, Sexton)

      Minson, Jacobs (Stephenson, Campbell)

      Sidebottom, Beams, Chapman, S. Johnson, Cloke, Dangerfield, Porplyzia (Smedts, Elliot)

      She’d like to have Dean Cox, but alas one trade short. Still pretty good I reckon.

      Good luck to you this round mate

      • Oh yeah and she picked Round 13 so she wouldn’t have to have any cheating, tanking, still-crap-no-matter-how-many-number-one-draft-picks-we-get blues players in her team ;)

  • Does anyone think Sammy Docherty has a chance of playing this weekend?

  • Two Questions.

    1) Are there any fwd/back premos from round 11 teams anyone rates (other than Danger)

    2) Who do you guys rate more as a mid Watson/Stanton

    • Stanton has a higher chilling, Watson more consistent

      • I like Watsons consistency, plus hes been getting 130’s whilst Stanton is coming back to the fold IMO.
        Gunna be a tough choice, although I might end up just getting Beams in.

    • rule number one…avoid collingwood and essendon scumbags

      • hmmm.. now lets see.. if I follow that my team will be without the choices of: Swan, Pendlebury, Stanton, Watson, Beams, Sidebottom, Ryder, Shaw, Heppel..

        yeah, maybe not

      • Lol My mate who is playing DT for the first time is all emotional like you, she simply refuses to get Essendon players cos she hates them (collingwood supporter) and she hates Brissie lions, plus she doesnt choose players she doesnt personally like.

        Shes bottom of the ladder in our league, and she doesnt know why lol.

        How is your team faring? Just curious.

        • well shags i’m in 3 leagues and at 7/2, 6/3, 4/5. unfortunately the league i really want to win is the 4/5. but at least i don’t have any scumbags!! tell your friend to keep fighting the good fight-winning isn’t everything.

  • My forward line is literally- Sidebottom, Beams, Franklin, Steve Johnson, N. Riewoldt, Whitecross, Dangerfield.
    I might have the best team in the competition

  • in rnd 13 my midfield will look like this:

    swan, pendles, watson, stanton, boyd, ablett

    and my fwd line like this:

    sidey, beams, buddy, rok, martin, danger, robbo

    I must have the best team in the competition………

    lol ;)

    • WOW! That’s amazing, you have to be ranked number 1 with a team like that. ;)

    • i might as well give up

    • Rd 13 or 14?

      Mine:
      Def: lids, birchall, waters, hargrave, Johnson, Goddard,Scotland
      Mid: GAJ, Boyd, swan, jelwood, thommo, Stanton
      Ruck: cox, Giles
      Fwd: buddy, beams, Sidey, danger, Robbo, martin, Chappy

      All but two of these guys are in my side now

      Only thing left is Giles —>>> ???

    • Ripper midfield man

  • My head hurts trying to plan trades knowing that my score is going to suck! It’s just not cool. Persisting with the I dont care what I score over the bye rounds and upgrading to the best players I can when they have bottomed/maxed.

  • Sorry if I’m stealing Calvin’s thunder a little this week, but does anyone reckon Goldstein will end up in his top 5? Blake scored 131 on Hickey on the weekend and Wood tonned up on him the week before.

    • doubt he’ll be in there but not a bad unique.. bit risky though

    • Yeah too risky better going with a gazza or delids as C or robbo as VC although none of them got over 81. Although if your tossing up between Cox and Goldstein then Goldy looks the goods cheaper, gonna score higher this week (if the magpie supporter is right) and Hmac wont be in for at lest another 9 weeks min 8

      • Yeah, probably is a bit unconventional… but we’ve gone Cox before when the stars have aligned. I’ll be interested to see whether Calvin mentions him.

        I’m definitely considering him after the shoddy luck I’ve had with my last 2 (Pendles then Gaz).

  • Looking at trading out zaharakis for shuey, thoughts please?

    • I’d get some extra cash and trade up to a super-premium that you’d want in your team for the rest of the year

    • always a good idea to get rid of an essendon clown

  • I was thinking Marty Clarke >> Sam Shaw, Magner >> Boyd and Zaha >> Danger. What are peoples thoughts? Only issue is it leaves me a little weak in the backline.

  • Trading Zaha -> Evans/darley (via smedts)
    Magner -> Boyd

    Might make another trade if a viable round 11 rookie comes up.

  • Whats up guys, i really need some help as im in a really good position at the moment.
    My current team is

    Def:Goddard,Lids,birchall,waters,heppel,hargrave,clarke(Morris,Spurr)
    Mid: Ablett,Swan, Mitchell,Boyd,rocky,magner,(Trealor,Sexton)
    Forw:Franklin,Beams,Sidebottom,Robbo,martin,zaha,zorko,(Dickson,hall)

    I am currently ranked 507th and want to keep it that way, I have 319,000 cash and 11 trades left. Need to get magner out this week and upgrade to a premuim. But the thing is im not seeing my mid as that strong and need a really good player. I was thinking priddis which would be great for the cash but would really like thompson but if i get thommo then i dont have enough cash for other upgrades.

    Advice would be appreciated.

    • Trade Zaha out for Dangerfield,

      Consider trading Either Magner and/or Clark/Morris if you need to lose some donuts this week, there might be a couple of downgrade options worth looking at. I dont like the round 11 premos in the fwd/back other than Dangerfield.

      Team looks fantastic

      • Thanks dude, I was actually thinking of keeping zaha and keeping clarke and morris for the rest of the year as a d7 and d8 position. I guess i just stuffed up by getting spurr. What are your thoughts on which premo to get priddis or thommo?

        • I’d go Priddus for value, and I had him last year, he was super consistent at full fitness. hes had a few injury concerns this year.

          Thommo is a rollercoaster IMO.

          Holding Zaha might be an ok idea, you are in the hunt for the car tho and having a premo on the bench will leak you points, and you have a few trades up your sleeve. But thats your call. ;)

          I’m out at 4000 again (dropped 1000 this horrid week dammit) so what you have been doing is better than what I have been doing, so I’d go with your gut still, as its clearly working for you :)

    • i really like andy swallow. he’ll score big this week as he loves playing interstate, and he has a heap of etihad games in the second half of the year, and finishes with an i/s game against gws. then again i’m at about 82,000!! good luck

  • what are peoples thoughts on these trades? it will leave my team finalised but only 4 trades.

    didak -> rookie mid
    sandi -> goldstein
    krooze -> campbell

    then next week

    hall/morris -> beams
    treloar -> cloke
    old mac -> swan

  • sandi -> goldy
    didak -> 104k rookie mid
    krooze -> campbell

    then next week

    old mac -> swan
    hall -> beams
    treloar -> cloke

    leaving me with 4 trades though…

    • Mate, i see Trelor to Cloke as a sidway trade.
      I think both will ave. about 80 for the rest of the year.
      Save that trade mabye,
      what does everybody else think.

  • Forget the IF with Patton, hes going to Play.

    http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/patton-to-debut-for-giants.html

    Is anyone considering picking him up as a Downgrade target?

    You would think his JS would be pretty good, and in a lot of ways now would be the time to get him.
    I think i will pick him up as it suits the Bye rounds, and surely he would play a couple of games before being rested barring reinjury.

    • Tall forward priced at $175k. Pass.

      • +1 !!!

        Don’t know what all the hype is about although the downgrade stocks are depleted….

      • Thanks for advice … I think I might pass as well. I realsed Darley is cheaper even though hes had one price increase lol ;)

  • Also a couple of West Coast Rookies might get a game with Beau Waters out

    http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7155/newsid/138285/default.aspx

    Doesnt say much for their JS tho

  • does anyone know how to delete their team……i’ve got like 5 and i’m afraid if i win a weekly they won’t give me the $500 coz i have more than 1 team

    • Off load the team to someone else

    • no rush anyway mate…i’ve got round 12 all wrapped up, and ingoes’ girlfriend has round 13. and i don’t think any essendon supporters have won a round anyway

  • cox or maric to get in for sandi???

  • The AFL is an absolute disgrace for not charging hunt for his cowardly act on eddie Betts. How low can you go! He stood grinding his boot into the back of Eddies hand for a seemng eternity atleast 15-20 seconds) knowing full F@#$ing well what he was doing. If I see that tool on the street I’ll grind my fist into his face!

    • hahaha… yeah, hit him with your keyboard bro.

    • I’m pretty sure you’ll be on the ground before you get the chance……He’s a fucken tank

    • lol, correction should have been “suspended” and yes I’m talking all tough from behind my computer screen and in reality I’m sure he’d throw me round like a bitch… but it was a nice thought. That was a pissweak act, he’ll get his.

  • Who to downgrade? Clarke or Bugg?

    • Clarke, as he has the bye. Meaning you can upgrade Bugg to Carrotts in round 14/15.

  • How do you guys rate Michael Johnson from Fremantle?

    His Fwd/Bck status is mighty tasty

    Averaging 91 which is pretty damn good for a defender.

  • Need Trade Advice

    Team:
    Backs : Goddard, Broughton, Deledio, Waters, Hargrave, Clarke, Darley ( Ellis, Townsend )

    Mids: Ablett, Jelwood, Swan, Boyd, Thompson, Mitchell ( J Mac, A.Treloar )

    Rucks: Sandi , Giles ( Stephenson , Redden )

    Fwds: Buddy, Chappy, Danger, Sidebottom, Martin, C.Pearce, Zorko ( D.Smith, A.Hall )

    With Sandi out he needs to go !

    Option 1:
    Sandi > Cox . . . has had the bye.
    Clarke > S.Shaw . . . Has had bye and can pocket $$$

    Option 2* which I prefer
    Sandi > I.Maric . . . hasn’t had the bye but averages over 100 and has GWS, Melbourne & Gold Coast in next 4 and easy run after that.
    Clarke > S,Shaw . . . nice cash profit.

    Option 3
    Sandi > S.Jacobs
    Clarke > Birchall

    Please help me out thanks.
    Clarke > S.Shaw

    • Prefer Option 1.
      Cox is still a premo, and has been coming good recently. I wouldnt waste a Donut.

      • even though Maric has had an awesome season u still think cox ? makes sense as my next week opponent has maric out

        anything else u think I should do

        • Maric is having an Awesome season, that is true. If you are super keen and are willing to take that zero, go for it.

    • get rid of swan cause he has lots of tatts and plays for collingwood and has a dickie name.

  • looking at getting in swan and beams after the bye but is it too risky having pendles, sidey, elliot and those 2?

    • Na they don’t effect each others scoring, anyone not running with Swan, Beams & Sidey after their bye will be very sorry they didn’t

  • Who is a better downgrade option for this week? Clarke or Bugg?

  • How long is zaka out for

  • Thinking of trading Clarke out to avoid a donut/upgrade him.

    Can only afford Hanley or Adcock. Which of these two would you prefer in your team?

    Or should I cop the donut and wait for Suckling to become affordable?

    • I wouldn’t do any of those, downgrade to Sam Shaw and grab Carrots round 15

    • what’s the rest of your backline? Adcock and Hanley are quite decent pick ups and both have had the bye already whilst having pretty good seasons in a season where there’s not too many decent pick ups in the backline.

      • My weakest position. Currently: Deledio, H.Shaw, Goddard, Conca, Lake, Hargrave, Clarke, Darley, Spurr.

        I already have two players with low job security (Darley, Spurrr) and I think Sam Shaw is likely in the same boat and would be too risky. And yes, there is a lack of decent upgrade options available in defence.

        My main league opponent has no donuts this week (and i need to win) so Im leaning towards trading and getting Adcock in for Clarke.