Greatest Dream Team of All: Round 3

On the back of the non-success of the ‘Greatest’ series on afl.com.au, I will aim to reinvent and establish a new article: DTTalk’s own ‘Greatest Dream Team of All’. Taking into consideration DT form of players across the competition, a best 22 will be proposed; with things like value and price coming into play. Whilst the article shares the same name as its predecessor, these articles will be focus on players from a DT perspective (sorry Nick Maxwell). This is by no means a reflection of any player personally or on their playing style, just a pure expression of their DT awesomeness.

This week I’ve been forced to consider players based on value, more than just their past feats due largely to the price changes. Several players that have made the grade this round have displayed huge numbers, therefore simply cannot be ignored. Whether they be a one off, or the start of a breakout season; we can only speculate. But one thing cannot be denied – each of the 22 below have had a fantastic week.

NB: For the purposes of this article, the Salary Cap has been based on am increased figure taking into consideration a standard value increase across the competition of 5.9%.

I now give you McRath’s Round 3 Greatest Dream Team of All:

Backs

H. Scotland (CAR – $486,000) – One of several Blues to raise the bat on Friday night, Scotto accumulated 35 disposals and 8 marks for a handy 124 in the big win against Collingwood.

J. Gibson (HAW – $354,700) – Not usually suited to DT with his defensive mindset, Gibson had an incredible outing against Adelaide on the weekend – totalling 29 touches, including 21 kicks; as well as 15 marks. He finished with 151 points in a game out of the box. Don’t trade him in though as he’s unlikely to get those numbers very often.

P. Duffield (FRE – $352,600) – After shrugging off injury concerns during the week, the Duffman came out to be one of Freo’s best in their low-scoring win over the Lions on Saturday. Gathering 28d, 7m, 6t and a goal to register a game-high 117 points – Duffield looms as a great upgrade option with his role in defence likely to result in a high DT average.

S. Dempster (STK – $324,000) – Not one that would find himself in many teams at all, Dempster had a very DT friendly game against the Bulldogs at the weekend, finishing with 23 touches and 14 marks for a total of 127 points.

R. Conca (RIC – $303,400) – This weekend past Conca showed exactly why he was touted as a great mid price option in the preseason, with his 29 disposal, 8 mark, 2 Goal game gave his coaches a healthy 134 points for their loyalty.

T. Simpkin (STK – $197,900) – Saints youngster backed up his good score last week with another great score of 106, which he gained from his 20 disposal, 9 mark game against the Bulldogs.

T. Bugg (GWS – $176,000) – Tomas is proving to be a very handy player indeed, scoring another 93 at the weekend. His ability to find the ball in his seemingly effortless transition to top-flight football will serve him well as he looks to remain a staple in the young GWS side this year.

Reserves
J. Hombsch (GWS –$150,200) finds himself here once again after his handy 75 at the weekend, whilst G. Horlin-Smith (GEE – $104,200) scored a solid 58 on debut.

Midfield

G. Ablett (GCS – $584,500) – Golden Stubby favourite Ablett once again dominated with his 44 touches and 162 points against Essendon on Sunday. Now boasting an incredible average of 147, he is a must have this season as he looks to take back his mantle as the #1 DTer in the land.

M. Boyd (WB – $576,800) – Making his first appearance in the Greatest Team this week is the hard-headed Bulldogs ball magnet. His score of 146 gave many people an excellent option as captain in the absence of Ablett. Gathering 39 disposals in a losing team, Boyd was a rare shining light in an otherwise ordinary performance by the Dogs.

S. Selwood (WCE – $468,800) – Joining the team in a very unique midfield, Selwood is truly breaking out in 2012, scoring a career high 150 points v GWS. His score came from 31 touches, 10 marks and 9 tackles in a well-rounded display.

S. Grigg (RIC – $429,000) – Another of Richmond’s 2nd-tier midfielders to shine against the lowly Demons at the weekend, Grigg racked up 37 touches and 12 marks to register a huge 142 points.

J. Ziebell (NOR – $384,900) – Young gun JZ had a fruitfull return in R3 after serving his 2-game suspension, scoring 139 points from 37 disposals. His inclusion was timely as North went on to stun the reigning premiers by 17 points.

S. Tuck (RIC – $554,700) – Tuck’s 32 disposal, 11 tackles game on the weekend was a highlight that gave him a nice 146 points to get him selected in this week’s high performing midfield. Unlikely to see that much ball every week, he relished the chance to shine over fellow Tiger’s stars Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin.

Reserves
Koby Stevens (WCE – $104,200) burst onto the scene against the Giants in a perforformance giving him a handy 83 points in his first game for the year, whilst Saints 2nd-Gamer Jack Newnes (STK – 98,700) improved on his debut score to post 61 points.

Rucks

H. McIntosh (NOR – $306,600) – HMac is starting to live up to his preseason hype as he turned in another 100+ score. This time he gathered 16d, 9m, 9 hitouts and 2.2 for 106 points as he excelled against the under-performing Cats.

S. Hampson (CAR – $285,000) – Had a fantastic game against the Magpies scoring 102 points rotating in the ruck and as a forward target with Kreuzer. The pair dominated the ruck against Jolly, with Hammer gaining 26 hitouts, 14 touches and also kicked 2 goals.

Reserves
J. Redden (POR – $149,400) and O. Stephenson (GEE – $98,700) make up the ruck bench this week after their scores of 65 and 77 showed why they’re considered the best cash cows of the rucks (barring Giles).

Forwards

M. Robinson (CAR – $459,800) – The hardnut midfielder scored a healthy 127 against the ‘Pies on Friday night from his 28 disposals, 8 marks and 7 tackles. He’s proving to be a great pickup for those you showed faith in him from R1.

S. Sidebottom (COL – $429,300) – Sidey topped the scoring for Collingwood at the weekend with 21 touches, 9 marks, 2 goals and 113 points. Largely know as a big game player, Sidebottom is establishing a great sense of consistency that is gold for dream teams.

B. Whitecross (HAW – $412,000) – Excelling in the absence of Hawks’ stalwart Luke Hodge, Whitey is building towards a breakout year as he showed again on the weekend what he is capable of. His 25 touches, 12 marks and a goal gave him a premium-esque 122 points as he tempts Fyfe owners to make the switch and jump on the bandwagon.

J. Waite (CAR – $381,600) – Waite also got in on the action at the MCG to post 108 points. He gatherd 17d (inc. 15 kicks), 10m and 3.1 goals. If he can stay fit and avoid suspension, he will ride the Blues’ success in 2012 and be a high scoring DT player.

S. Crameri (ESS – $370,900) – One of my preseason ‘Uniques’, Crameri was one of the few that truly excelled against the Suns, scoring 4.2 goals and 17 possessions. Like Waite, look for him to rise and fall with the success of the young Bombers team in 2012.

J. Howe (MEL – $334,000) – The only Demon’s player to perform well in the trouncing they received at the hands of Richmond on Saturday, Howe is a rising star in Melbourne’s ranks as he went on to score an outstanding 130 points from 23 touches, 12 marks and 2.1 goals.

C. Pearce (FRE – $314,700) – The injury-plagued Dockers midfielder played his best game for the year on the weekend for a return of 115. He gathered 23 touches and 3 goals in the low scoring affair against the Lions.

Reserves
D. Smith (GWS – $180,800) had another productive day to score 87, whilst debutant A. Treloar (GWS – $104,200) had a great first game against West Coast to record 66 points.

Greatest Dream Team of All: Round 1

Defenders
Scotland – 124
Gibson – 151
Duffield – 117
Dempster – 127
Conca – 134
Simpkin – 106
Bugg – 93
Midfielders
Ablett – 162
Boyd – 146
S. Selwood – 150
Grigg – 142
Ziebell – 139
Tuck – 146
Rucks
McIntosh – 106
Hampson – 102
Forwards
Robinson – 124
Sidebottom – 113
Whitecross – 122
Waite – 108
Crameri – 106
Howe – 130
Pearce – 115
Reserves – Hombsch (75), Horlin-Smith (58), Stevens (83), Newnes (61), Redden (65), Stephenson (77), D. Smith (87), Treloar (66).

Total Score from starting 22: 2832 (with Ablett as Captain)

Cash Remaining in Salary Cap: $24,900 (based on adjusted cap of $9,300,000)

Honourbable Mentions

B. Goddard (STK, DEF/MID – $488,400) – 112

B. Deledio (RIC, DEF/MID – $469,300) – 111

G. Broughton (FRE, DEF – $399,900) – 109

M. Murphy (CAR, MID – $553,400) – 139

C. Ward (GWS, MID – $435,900) – 136

B. Gibbs (CAR, MID – $504,800) – 129

J. Roughead (HAW, FWD/RUC – $414,600) – 110

L. Franklin (HAW, FWD– $497,900) – 118

B. Harvey (NOR, MID/FWD– $440,400) – 111

Stay tuned for our next instalment in the ‘Greatest’ series in the coming weeks. In the mean time – feel free to speculate with your own Greatest team in the comments.

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61 Comments

  • I wish I had that team…

  • @DT TALK

    Should make a ‘next weeks greatest team’ as a point of difference aswell to give us idea of who will be good, not who has been good, just something to think about.

    love it non the less

    • Oppinitaive versus facts… If you want opinions then tune into The Circle on channel 10 every weekday morning.

      • would be really interesting to see what the greatest dream team of all would score according to their next weeks scores?? just a thought but would makle for interesting reading, especially with the inconsistancy of alot of the players included. Great work nonetheless

  • Why are you sharing my team around? Lol joking I wish.

  • Dustin martin OUT, Jarred Waite IN????

  • 2832!!!! Holy moly…

  • This side would be one hell of a roller-coaster trip through the season. Waite, Crameri, Clancee, Howe,, Grigg, Hampson, Dempster etc etc etc.

    This team would have been ridiculed through out the pre season. One hell of a weekly score. Wouldn’t touch nearly half the guys in the team though.

    Greta stuff McRath. A lot of work would have gone into creating this team!

  • qaulity read boyz. Sweet merciful jesus for captain again this week but swan is tempting me.

    • I know. Swan, always dominant against Port (I believe he racked up 48 disposals one fine Sunday at twilight) in a Collingwood team that will (hopefully) want to atone for its disgraceful performance last week. But, risk vs. reward, whole comp will go Ablett. If Swan outscores him, it probably won’t be by much and if Ablett outscores Swan, it could be by a lot

  • my Dt FWD’s did pretty bad this week…. who should i change:
    Zaharakis, Porps, Hurley, Petrie, Chaps?

    • Honestly, I think Hurley is a bit overrated, especially as far as DT goes, I’d go him but only if you have the cash to get a suitable replacement (by that I mean Whitecross most likely).

    • Honestly, I think Hurley is a bit overrated, especially as far as DT goes, I’d go him but only if you have the cash to get a suitable replacement.

  • Thats a good point about Whitecross, gave me second thoughts about him now :(

  • Nice write up McGrath, – Never would have thought Gibson would be a high scorer.

    I know its a bit off topic but is anyone confident they will only get 2 or so donuts during the multi bye round without doing many trades? If I don’t do any trades I may be looking at about 7 or 8.

    • McRath not McGrath, – sorry

    • The minimum number of donuts is 8 – (number of trades after Rd 11 & 12).

      There is no getting around this (unless you have a ruck DPP which is unlikely). This means to get down to 2 donuts you absolutely have to do 6 trades. With no trades the best you can do is 8 donuts.

      • Cheers Portetdaspet.

        Is anyone planning to use this trade / 2 donut strategy or can we expect everyone will likely be in the same boat and miss about 5-8. I reckon I’m just going to whether the storm and risk 8 donuts.

        Does the Eliminator comp go over the Multi Bye rounds or is there a break?

        • I would imagine most people going for the car would be using the full 6 trades. The key thing will be to try and make them useful trades that improve your team rather than all pure sideways. This makes Round 12 and particularly Round 13 bye rookies very valuable this year.

          Of course any non-playing player during those weeks will add an extra donut, so I think even with 6 trades getting out with 4 donuts will be a pretty good effort. 3 would be outstanding.

          • Eliminator carries on, and 9 is the maximum amount of trades (3 per week during MBRs).

  • Anyone know anything about Sam Gilbert’s back injury?

    likely to miss this week?

  • where do I find break evens for all players ??

    • do you have assistant coach, just click on the players name and it will come up

    • footywire, just google the player name footywire and dream team it’ll be the first site

    • Look up FFGenie. Does all the breakevens, expected price changes, $/points etc. Great for planning when to trade out rooks, who to bring in, etc.

  • How did Horlin-Smith find his way onto the bench in the backs? That was a clever DP swap.

  • When is Sam Darley likely to get a game? I held onto him due to a lack of back rookies.

    • I’m interested in this too, at the start of the season it was meant to be like Darley and Bugg rotating but Buggs killing it

    • I know some won’t like it but I burnt a trade to get him out for another cow pretty much knowing that I’ll bring him back in later in the season as a downgrade when Bugg gets a rests. He’ll definitely get a few games eventually

  • When I Sam Darley likely to get a game??

  • It would be remiss of me to make an honourable mention for Big Izzy in the dream squad.

    His big score of 4 has me thinking of a Fyfe —> Izzy trade.

  • Very interesting looking at that list of players.

    However the only one I truly regret is taking Golby over Conca.
    Still people will say Conca did play Melbourne last week so that baby’s not washed yet.

  • who to replace fyfe?? Whitecross, waite, dangerfield or boomer??

  • Cats end of an era??? Are you on drugs? They are playing disinterested footy at the moment, it has NOTHING to do with abiltiy, or end of an era.

    lololololololol….what was it…..2010…that idiot commentator said the same thing in the first quarter cats vs bulldogs. What happened next? Cats kicked 12 unanswered….and won the 2011 flag.

    They could very easily be 2-1 if Scarlett didnt hip ballyntine…..they could also be 0-3 if the hawks didnt choke. But last year, you could say the same as they had a lot of close games.

    End of an era? Please……….

  • who’s got 24 trades left , i have with rookies fattening up ;)

    • Not me, looking at 19 already if Fyfe opts for surgery. Wanted to save them but had Howard (LTI) and now Hale (LTI) and Fyfe (possible LTI). Hopefully that’s it now until the MBR’s.

    • Got 23, Parker to Greene the only one I’ve done (not that great with Captain Hindsight).

  • G’day, is J, Grimes to M Johnson a risky move?

  • Thoughts on Docherty to Hampton and then using the DPP link Fyfe to Ward / Harvey and keeping the DPP for later trades

  • What the hells going on with Pav?? And if Fyfes out for an extended period, do you think it will help Pavs scores increase? Fast running out of patience with his dismal output thusfar

  • Is there any prize or cash awarded to the top placed league at the end of the year? The mighty “dt talk guns” are currently sitting 7th after being as high as 2nd. Go lads!!!

  • Yes Im a newb to this forum but I’m ranked in the top 5k which im happy about [even after a shocker last week] and I have a question or two.

    Explain why sideways trades are a waste at this stage? Are you meaning that for example:

    Trading Thompson for Judd at this stage is a waste? Or even trading a Chappy for a Robinson then upgrading Thompson to Murphy is a waste of two trades and we should give the underperformers more time to come good?

    If the byes were like last year I wouldnt hesitate to make the trades. But because i’ll/we’ll need all the trades I can get come the bye rounds, im thinking you are maybe correct in saying save your trades. But at the same time im thinking do it man! Out with the olds guns [chappy, thomo or fatty] and in with the new [robbo, whitecross, s selwood].

    I say back your own judgement.

    • The aim of trading is to improve your team. The question you need to ask is whether trading Thompson to Judd improves your team. Just because one is averaging more than the other over three (!) games does not mean that it will continue – three weeks is an incredibly small sample when judging form, especially given that the two players have played different opposition in that time. Thompson always does poorly against the hawks. If he had played a lesser team last week he would have been a good shot for at least 115, which would make his three round average about 120 (more than Judd’s!). They are likely to average about the same over the season, so effectively you would be wasting a trade.

      • I do agree with what you say Hypojezza and I wont be trading out Chappy, Fatty, Thomo or Burgoyne as yet but gee its tempting!

        I think there is a changing of the guard coming for some teams and players.

        Who and when to get on or off them is the punt everyone has to take at some stage, get it right and its justified. Get it wrong and it’s a waste yes.

  • What about Zaharakis what do we do with him and i have sam reid although i have an average of 2045 iam running out of ideas for these too….. any help