West Coast Eagles: AFL Dream Team Picks

This series of ‘club preview’ posts are written by DT TALK regular contributors choosing their 5 players they have on their watchlist from the respective club. These aren’t who we think will be the top 5 highest scoring players… and are not necessarily in order. They are just our opinions of the 5 players who we have on our watchlist heading into the 2012 season.

Tbetta’s Five from the Eagles:

1. Dean Cox (RUC) – $532,000

Cox has without a doubt been the best fantasy ruckman of the past 5 years, but interestingly he was cast aside in pre-season planning by many coaches. Yes, he’s getting older, and yes, Naitanui’s going to spend a fair bit more time in the middle. But if his pre-season form is anything to go by, Cox will still be smashing out 100’s even if he rests in a forward pocket a little more frequently. In the absence of Josh Kennedy, Mark LeCras and sometimes Quinten Lynch, Big Coxy has stood up and taken a bunch of contested grabs up forward. Cox looks like he will again be the premier DT ruckman, but is he worth the coin? Ignore at your own peril.

2. Beau Waters (DEF) – $338,200

While Waters has always been a much-loved player of mine, I’ve learnt as an Eagles supporter not to trust those pesky elbows.  He’s missed more games due to his elbow issues than he’s been able to play in the last 4 years, suiting up for 37 out of 88 possible home-and-away matches. Yes, he can score – his 2010 average of 87.5 proves this, but remember that he didn’t play at all in 2009 and this is a period sandwiched in between two years of 8 games for a 68 point average. He leads a very short list of ‘premium’ defenders from the Round 11 bye, but I can’t help but remain wary over his durability. A big risk-reward type pick at his price.

3. Koby Stevens (MID) – $104,200

The wraps on Koby are huge, and it has always reminded me on the hype surrounding Shuey at the dawn of his third season. We all know how he turned out. Despite some obvious similarities, Koby is a very different footballer to Shuey, emerging in a much different landscape. Shuey, a silky, speedy, goal-sneaking midfielder, got his chance last year immediately after the Eagles ‘won’ the wooden spoon. Midfield time was a given for himself and the other youngsters coming through (Scott Selwood, Masten, Gaff). Stevens however, a hard-at-it, lateral-moving inside midfielder, arrives in a completely new football environment just one year later. West Coast’s success last year means it will be a difficult task for a newbie to break into the best 21, let alone 22 players on a given week. If anyone can do it though, it’s Koby. Look at him for a midfield bench position, as I’m tipping he’ll be much vested early(Gaff, circa 2011) if he earns an opportunity.

4. Chris Masten (MID) – $278,500

Half of me says you’d be mad not to at least consider Masten, but the other half says you’d be crazy to ever pick him. What does that say for my sanity? Many of you would know my personal feelings towards Masten, but I’ll try to put up an unbiased picture of him here. Masten finished 2011 very strongly with 140 and 115 in the last two regular season games, and his good form has continued right through the Nab Cup. His weekly nab scores have read 74, 89 and 96, going at 108 DT points per 100 minutes. That’s more points per 100 minutes than other much-hyped mid-pricers in Sloane (100), Ballantyne (95), McCarthy (103), Hayes (68), and Gaff (81) this pre-season. There no doubting that he can find the footy and score well (especially with his newly found tackling prowess) but will he play enough midfield time in the season proper? I have a nagging feeling he will fill Ebert’s HFF role early on…

5. Josh Hill (FWD) – $276,600

I wanted to chuck in a Smokey here, and I’ve landed on Hill. He has scored 57, 57, and 58 over the first three weeks of the Nab Cup, despite much reduced playing time. He was recruited with filling Ebert’s HFF spot in mind, but LeCras’ season-ending injury throws things up in the air a bit. Regardless, it can only be a good thing for Hill, who will certainly be given early opportunities to make the spot his. He’s dead cheap, priced at 55.9, but I’m worried about that his playing-style is too well suited to the vest. Hill is a giant unknown that could go either way, but if you’re looking at forwards with a Round 11 bye, he could be worth a closer look.

 

OTHERS ON THE WATCHLISTLuke Shuey ($413,000 MID) has proven he will be prolific this year with a high PPM in Nab 1 and a lauded pre-season, but he is significantly more expensive than this time last year. Scott Selwood ($431,000 MID) has had a great Nab Cup despite off-season back surgery, but is also around that awkward price for a midfielder. Gaff ($322,900 MID), Sheppard ($253,700 DEF/MID) and Weedon ($104,200 FWD) are also options, if you’re not concerned with the former’s slight injury or the latter two’s job securities. Nic Nat ($371,300 RUC) is someone who hasn’t garnered a lot of talk this pre-season, especially in a wide-open ruck race, but expect the freak athlete to improve on his 75.1 average from last year with plenty more contested marking.

 

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39 Comments

  • Avatar of G-Bangers

    3.21am in Perth , just got home from djing at the Library Nightclub and I see the forum is empty !

    Morning !

    Losing the NAB Cup was the smartest thing the Eagles have ever done… because…

    When you look back through the history of NAB Cup , no team has ever gone on to WIN the real prize in September.

    Therefore , from this day forward the NAB Cup is now known as the POISON CHALLIS !

    Poor Josh Hill , he’ll be having nightmares about last night !

    G-Bangers !

    • Avatar of Brappinalong

      Fail. G-Bangers Geelong won the NAB cup in 2009 and of course the flag. Sorry bro :(

      Plus the last 5 NAB cup winners have gone on to make the top 4. Yes I’m a Crow’s supporter and know I don’t think we’ll make the 4, top 8 yes but that is all.

      • Avatar of G-Bangers

        Fair play Brapp , i take that back i was incorrect about Geelong… I don’t usually make those sorts of mistakes , oh well I am human after all ;)

        @Ronaldo – a bit of tongue in cheek humour about losing , of course I wanted them to win but it’s not the end of the world .

        @Tuppy – the umpiring was very ordinary at times to say the least .

        Cox is fine to all those worried about him , Woosha had a plan and he stuck to it .

        I’d be getting on Masten and Waters they’re both absolute bargains ;)

        and to finish , again I say… Poor Josh Hill !

        LOL .

    • Avatar of Ronaldo

      So eagles losing the NAB cup was…good? Love to see how you hate your team mate.

      Anyway, I hate the eagles a lot so defs no players for me, as elephants on FF will tell you.

      • Avatar of unceramonius

        Eagles are a joke. Get away with so much. AFL gifts them the softest draw in history, they can hold like no tomorrow in defense…but touch them and its a free…then 50 metres!!

        AFL gifted them top 4 for tourism dollars and its sick. Get the perth crowd down for one final in melbourne to sell their packages. But it didnt stop there. Carlton got absolutely shafted when Glass held Walker like a long lost relative. Oh but ofcourse thats ok. Now lets get all the dollars of the perth crowd travelling again for another final.

        Disgusting. But not only that, when do thier players get suspended? Oh couldnt do that last year, might jeopardise top 4. So Lynch can hit gibbs with a lunging elbow, and with his head over the ball, IN THE SAME game and gets his sentence REDUCED? One freaking game.

        Nic “massively over rated” Nat, can hit a guy with his head over the ball, and like judd…..all excuses are made so he can play. Waters should have got done too…but nope, cant have that.

        Meanwhile Selwood gets done for 4 weeks on absolutely inconclusive footage. You cant see squat. If that was a eagirl player…..they would be let off.

        This team gets so looked after, if they did it on their own merits, fair enough. But they are an endangered species it seems, and thats sick

        • Avatar of Ronaldo

          +1 Wish everybody knew this, they get so much help from umpires, from the eagles’ 25 matches in 2011 they won the free kick count 18 times, conceding more free kicks then gained 6 times and drawing once, with 4 of those times being against poor teams (which is basically saying the eagles don’t need the umps for those games) in North Melbourne, Port Adelaide twice and Brisbane, the other two being Carlton and Collingwood (two more cheat teams imo), the draw coming against Gold Coast.

          Thing I hate most about it though is how ignorant all eagles fans are of this. I have never seen an eagle fan admit they get favoured by umpires/AFL, despite seeing Waters get away with two high bumps two years in a row.

          http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/eagles-free-love-on-the-free-kick-freeway-20110919-1kht0.html some cool shit there

          • Avatar of g73scratch

            u gotta be pullin yaself favoured by the afl ,u must be joking,no team gets favoured,especially us ..weve copped more sht from the afl over the last ten yrs than anyone ever

            didnt see the afl investigating and nearly running st kilda out of town in the last couple of yrs…but we have had to walk on broken egg shells ever since cousins got busted for ..what was it again?? oh thats right nothing

            i spoz if ya support one of them old suburban vfl clubs that not even ya parents have seen win a granny then ya gotta complain about something

            5 grand finals and 3 flags in 25 yrs ,we dont have much to complain about

          • Avatar of G-Bangers

            You must be one of those horrible Collingwood supporters Ronaldo because that is pretty funny.

            No teams travel more than the Eagles and Fremantle , that is all that needs to be written on the matter.

            It just proves how good an organisation the Eagles are to have Won 3 Premierships in our short history and to make a Prelim last year after being wooden spooners the year before following the Ben Cousins debacle is testament to John Worsfold and Trevor Nisbett and all associated with the club.

            I love the haters ;)

          • Avatar of Vishnu27

            Yeah, the Eagles are favoured by the umps & the AFL. Sure. That’s right. You just keep on telling yourself all about it. What an absolute crock of one-eyed drivel. No team in the AFL travels as much as West Coast (55630km this season). The suggestion that WC are looked out for by the umpires & the MRP is the most absurdly stupid nonsense I’ve read in a long time. It’s very easy to dismiss as laughable whining. So the free kick count last night (Adelaide 26; WC 19) says what? Nothing much. It’s footy & that’s the way it is.

        • Avatar of g73scratch

          would love to see the stats on free kicks last night ,i dont usually notice the umpires but it looked like they were murdering us…could be wrong ,but would like to know
          anyway your comments are crap the afl wouldnt lat one side get way more frees than others,,look at the amount of times the free kicks end up about the same at the end of any game ,,even if one team is way infront at half time ,they make sure they even them up
          so ya dont know what ya on about..its where ya get them now days not how many,look it up im sure youll get your rs jard

          • Avatar of Ingoes

            You don’t know what you are talking about.

            I did a thorough analysis of the free kicks in 2007 because at that stage my team was copping awful treatment at the hands of the umps. That year Eagles had a free kick for/free kick against percentage of about 130%, Lions were 125%, every other club was almost exactly 100%, except for the Pies about 85% and Freo 76% (no wonder those poor bastards always ‘underperform’).

            It is good business for the AFL for the Eagles to be strong. So they make sure they are.

        • Avatar of xpl

          You are insulting the eagles because the UMPIRES decide differently?

          lolmatesbut

        • Avatar of

          LOL!!! I know a good therapist if you want one???

        • Avatar of Rhino03

          mate that is the biggest load of bull ive ever heard. The eagles get slaughtered by umpires every week, and all the melbourne teams get looked after so much!! The eagles did get a good draw in the nab cup but dont they deserve to since they finished top 4 last year. The other top 4 teams got easy draws as well.
          Every one always bags the eagles!! and mate Joel Selwood deserved to get 4 weeks if not more he elbowed a guy in the face, is that okay now. And also mate you cant suspend a guy in finals for nothing, it would be alright if it was a legit reason, but not a bump mate. It is AFL mate not netball.

          Get over it the eagles would have to be one of the fairest clubs in the AFL, and if any team gets looked after it would be Collingwood!!!

      • Avatar of Ingoes

        Can someone please explain to me how “eagles travel more than other teams” is relevant rebuttal to the claim that eagles are looked after by the AFL through the umpiring and trubunal?

        Are you guys going with that because there is no more logical rebuttal? Because it’s true?

        I watched the Pies-Eagles prelim with two mates who are both Eagles supporters and they were both pretty embarrased about the umpiring – especially when i had told them it would happen, because it happened all of last year.

        North Melbourne were the whipping boys last year – they were umpired out of the eight. Eagles were umpired into the four. No doubt about it

        • Avatar of xpl

          Please tell me who is going to be umpired into the top four this year so i can make some early bets?

  • Avatar of geoff1968

    where is the code for the league?

  • Avatar of Ike

    Is Gaff still a lock?

  • Avatar of Lenny

    I won’t take Waters again. He has already burnt me in the past.

  • Avatar of Big Feller

    Great work tbetta. I’m seriously thinking of bringing in the Mastenbater – can you talk me out of it?

  • Avatar of Fabregas

    Great write-up Tbetta!

    Was out last night so taped the game and will watch it this arvo – but naturally i was sneakily watching the stats on FanFooty, and saw Cox’s 27, that he was deep in the FWD line (all night?) and that NicNat did the vast majority of the rucking.

    Haven’t seen any anxious fretting on here or Twitter so i’m guessing there isnt really much to worry about – however $532k is a lot of coin, and i was stung by Mitch Clark’s role change in 2010 (75 after his 94 the year before) and still wake up screaming sometimes…

  • Avatar of Brappinalong

    With Le Cras and now Nicoski out the picture for some time will Weedon get a decent run with good JS?

  • Avatar of wcarey

    hmmm….going either masten from west coke or brad ebert from PA. think i might go ebert just due the fact that masten is an absolute gooch….

  • Avatar of Kiwiii

    Currently have 3 gun 2 mid and 1(2) rookies midfield

    mids are masten and mccarthy. I think as an eagles boy im letting my hope/heart get in the way of luke parker over masto.

    I’ve never gone the mid-priced approach but I think worst case scenario (besides injuries) is they hold their value and you can still downgrade just like you would downgrade a ripened rookie anyway.

    If Masto averages 80 which I think he probably WILL, he still ripens a little to 325k before the bye, I feel I don’t lose much there.
    If he averages 90 which I think he CAN, he ripens to 360k before the bye.

    Same goes for Mccarthy.

    This is what i’m telling myself!

    • Avatar of Ingoes

      Yep I call them pre-fattened cash cows. You don’t make quite as much but you make it quicker and are more likely to get field-worthy scores.

  • Avatar of giants

    I have the same worry about Masten. I think I’d rather go with Caddy or McCarthy if I was looking at that price range in the mids.

  • Avatar of Sceptic

    So hard if to choose about Coxy. He is going to average the most but will be resting atleast twice this year. So maybe Sammy Jacobs/Cheesburger can make up hte points during his rest. Hmmm.

  • Avatar of BOOMER

    Avoid all 3 I say, go with Treloar! dpp, he’s hugely rated by teamates, close to returning from his ‘mystery’ injury. lock and load! ok, an over reaction, but he could prove a smart investment.

  • Avatar of BOOMER

    Hey Ronaldo, the day the bombers get a decent run from the umps, i’m bettin’ you won’t be comlaining. just a hunch.