Brisbane Lions 2012 DT Preview

I’m sure everyone can agree that the Brisbane Lions are a young team on the up with some wise old heads among them. But the most important thing about them is they have lots of DT potential. So here’s my breakdown.

The Premiums

Tom Rockliff

Where do I start? I along with Roy have a Man crush on Rocky. He averaged 112 in 2011, with the ability to increase as can be seen with his  average of 121 with the last 12 rounds. He is an out and out gun, but some people are saying he could be tagged. I doubt it highly with the likes of Rich and Black, who have much more of an effect on the game then Rocky.

Jack Redden

He was a massive improver along with Rocky to an average of 109. He cannot be tagged out of the game. His tackle count is massive so if he can up the possesion count who knows where he could stop. The only downside is when he doesn’t reach 100 it is well below, although he only  missed the mark 6 times last year.

Matthew Leuenberger

With an average of 92 last year he is a premium Ruck. He improved massively throughout the year and in the last 9 rounds his worst score was 90. He is going to his his 6th year which is a great year for Rucks. The only problem with Matthew is that the new recruits Ben Hudson and Jordan Lisle could pinch hit in the ruck a bit more than Clark did.

Fool’s Gold

Daniel Rich

I hate to say it but he might be having a good pre season at last. But he can be tagged out of the game way to easily, as he is tagged second behind Blacky. I wouldn’t consider him until he has proven himself to be able to break the tag and take out those 20 to 50 point games.

Josh Drummond

Can be, and has been proven to be, a premium when he’s fit. But he is not having a full pre season this season and is way too injury prone. Just don’t  risk it.

Breakout?

Jonathan Brown

Why is he here you might ask? Well, yes he is getting on, but with an improving Brisbane Lions side. With the improved midfield, ruck and another young tall in Lisle it could take at least 1 of the 3 defenders usually on Browny. Also Patrick Karnezis helps as a third tall. Browny is under priced and for the first time in a long time is coming in with a full pre-season. Also, there’s no Clark to stick an elbow in Browny’s face and if he can get through Round 3 against McPharlin he should be right.

Jordan Lisle

This young lad from Hawthorn could do anything. He will be a regular in a Lions team struggling for talls. He could be up at FF or CHF and could fit in at CHB. He could be a great cash cow at a little more than a rookie price that is guaranteed game time.

Injury Comeback

Callum Bartlett

Where do I start? This poor guy has had both knees reconstructed, but he’s and having his first full pre season. He is a bottom-priced rookie at the age of 20. I believe that he will get a crack this year if he can stay fit through the NAB cup, so watch our for him to play off the back flank or the wing.

Jared Polec

We saw through his first 3 games that he definitely has silky skills, with 67, 83 then a 37 with a vest when he picked up his foot injury. But he is getting a full pre season and will no doubt get games.

Unique

Pearce Hanley

This Irishman had his breakout year last year off the back flank and later on in the season has spurts into the midfield. He could be a great unique for your backline. He proved he can hit the 100 mark but his consistency was lacking ,so if this can improve so will his average.

Jed Adcock

I believe that this year Adcock will play predominantly in the midfield or on the wing. Youngsters like Docherty and Bartlett, and Drummond if he gets fit, should take the shut down roles. So if this is the case Adcock should lift his average but who knows what Voss will do.

Don’t go there

Sam Sheldon/James Hawksley

They are in and out of the side and hopefully out mostly for the Lions sake. Their average is 50-60 and that’s for a reason – they butcher the ball and just don’t have the football mind. They are the Lions version of Raph Clarke.

Rookies

Sam Docherty

He was the Lions second pick at no.12 and is ready made for the AFL level. If he is picked come round 1 he will be a must-have. But he is not having a full pre season as he is recovering from hip surgery and is currently in the Rehab group. He also will have high competition for the rebounding defender position from Drummond, Hanley and Bartlett.

Billy Longer

Young Ruckman that will take time to develop but was much needed by the Lions. But with Ben Hudson as backup for Leunberger I doubt that they will risk him early on in the season but he could be a downgrade option later on in the year.

Dayne Zorko

This guy will be 23 by the time the season starts, and he is now the shortest guy at the Lions. He will fit right into Brisbane’s forward line as a small  forward that can run through the middle. It’s a position that the Lions have been needing for a while and this guy will dominate it.

Best 22

This is my crack at a Brisbane Lions 22 for 2012. It’s hard to predict at this stage what Voss has in store for us DTer’s but we can only be hopeful.

B: Bartlett – Merrett – Patful
HB: Hanley – Maguire – Adcock
C: Rockliff – Black – Rich
HF: Zorko – Lisle – McGrath
F: Banfield – Brown – Karnezis
R: Leunberger – Raines – Redden
INT: Hudson – Polec – Lester – Retzlaff

Cornelius, Harwood, Beams, Polkinghorne, Golby are all pushing for spots, whilst Drummond and Staker are injured.

Even with all this research into my beloved Brisbane Lions, I only have Rockliff and Bartlett in my team so far. But I’m really deeply considering having Brown in for the start of the season for his price rise at the beginning.

Cheers,

Hisk0

38 Comments

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  • Great write up Hisk0, I think the Lions have heaps of players that will feature in many teams – and they have an awesome DT spread. From Ruck > Rooks and everything in-between. I hope Voss gets them up and running to the level that this list could deliver – a finals berth is a must!!

    • Yeh personally i think we have a great squad. still got some old guys int there for experience but getting the young guns coming through. Just gotta get rid of some of the guys that arent going anywhere like hawksley and Sheldon

  • Had 5 lions a week ago. Brown, Rockliff, Zorko, Docherty and Berger but Dochertys injury/surgery might see him miss out. Excellant write up

  • good work hisk0. WHy dont you have zorko in your team though, you gave him a solid wrap and he is cheap?

  • Nice write up Hisk0, I’ve got Rockliff, Luey, Browney and Zorko locked at the moment.

  • I can’t see Polkinghorne not being selected if he’s fit. Nice write up though. So far Zorko, Adcock and Brown are in my squad, and I don’t think I’ll consider anyone else.

    • Yeh I agree but I was probably just hoping that he would fit lester and polec in there.

  • Seriously, how long can Black go on for? Also Brown.
    Some good young players but now Voss has them 2 years behind where they should be with bad drafting/recruiting.

    • Bad Recruiting!!! not drafting… Brisbanes drafting has been really good i reckon likes of Rocky, Redden, Karnezis, Banfield down the draft order in the past few drafts. thats pretty reasonable!

      • Completely agree!! Considering this years draft was completely dominated by GWS rob Kerr and the rest of the lions recruiting team did extremely well to end up with two high first round draft picks and lisle and zorko!!

  • Another great article, cheers!
    JB & Zorko for me, with Rocky to most likely join the team after his bye.

  • Great write up Hisk0,

    I will prob go with my lion heart instead of my head and put too many in my team however i can’t help but think about poor Sam Sheldon & James Hawksley who you shot down in flames! Classic!

    • Yeh I make sure that i try not to get in brisbane players. Yeh I really just dont think they are up to Brisbane standards they are really squad players to me. But they could come out this year and smash it.

  • disagree a bit with the 22
    this is my opinion:

    fb Drummond Merret Patfull
    hb Adcock Maguire Hanley
    ct Rich Black Redden
    hf Karnezis Brown Polkinghorne
    ff Banfield Cornelius Zorko
    rc Leuenberger Rockliff Raines
    in Lisle McGrath Polec
    sb Sheldon
    em Stiller Buchanan Bewick

    miss out

    Hawksley, James
    Longer, Billy
    Docherty, Sam
    Green, Josh
    Harwood, Ryan
    Beams, Claye
    Retzlaff, Bryce
    Bartlett, Callum

    thats what i reckon. POLKS is a certain starter, he could even be one of the breakout players for brissy. They need big years out of guys like him. They’ve just got to play cornelius. he has to develop coz brown aint around for much longer…. B Longer will get more of a show than hudson. I reckon longer will get 11 or so games, hudson about 8, hes only there for development and back up purposes… Bartlett will get a show, but hes not in the best 22 yet! Drummond should be fit for round 1from what ive heard. He is in rehab but its no huge injury… but he is drummond… Banfield could push into the midfield this year with zorko around.

    The only injuries that The Lions have are Drummond (Knee/Hip), Staker (Knee), Docherty (Hip) so all the others are fit and firing for round 1. Brisbane will play a huge role in DT 2012 i would think

    • You have some good points there. Yeh I agree with you with Polks. But Cornelius is just not big enough yet and he really struggles at the AFL level so I think that Lisle will slip straight into his spot. Yes Longer will get games but Hudson this year I believe will get more game time in the early part while Longer finds his legs.

    • I have this as their starting 22, I agree with PRo_MoE1144, I definitely can’t see Vossy omitting Polkinghorne from the team. I also think Beams showed enough last year to be given a spot in out best 22.

      FB: M.Maguire, D. Merrett, J. Drummond
      HB: J. Adcock, J. Patful, P. Hanley
      C: D. Rich, T. Rockliff, J. Redden
      HF: A. McGrath, J. Brown, J.Polkinghorne
      FF: T. Banfield, J. Lisle, P.Karnezis
      Followers: M. Leunburger, S. Black, A. Raines
      I/C: B. Husdon, J. Polec, D. Zorko
      Sub: C. Beams
      EMG: A. Cornelius, A. Buchannon, R. Lester

      I think 6 to 9 wins would be a good outcome for us next year. Next year’s draft is meant to be strong and we definitely need to add some young key defenders and a key forward to our list to fill the void’s left by the ageing players currently in those positions. I’m hoping to finish no higher then 10th, to ensure we get some decent picks in next years draft and give ourselves every possible chance of winning the 2016 premiership

      PS. I was very glad to see that nobody mentioned Stiller in their fringe players. The fact that he nearly has 100 AFL games to his name amazes me, we definitely need to trade him for a decent draft pick next year.

      I’m glad to see that nobody mentioned Stiller in their fringe players. The fact that he has nearly 100 AFL games to his name amazes me. Definitely need to trade him for a decent draft pick next year.

      • fair call maybe not Patful at full back with McKeever and Maguire fit. Personally I think Stiller is better than Buchanon and many others like sheldon and hawksley because he gets the ball more. But I believe that Lester will be in before Beams because of his versatility.

  • nice writeup hisk0

    tend to disagree a bit with hawksley! he isnt very dream team friendly atm.. but his disposal by foot is as good as anyone.. thats the only reason he ever gets a game… (and maybe his tackling)
    nonetheless plenty of dt relevant players in a team that struggled badly for form last year. at least 3 lions will be starting in the gypsys this year

  • personally, if anyone is going to become the next Dane Swan, it is Rockliff. He is 70/30 for me at this stage, only because of the other premiums available and the bye rounds. Anyway, if he isnt it your team this year, he’ll be in your team for the next 5 years to follow without doubt.

  • actually, he is the next dane swan. lock him in, and watch the massive scores roll on by

    • hmmm, i dont see him being the next swan until brisbane start actually winning a lot…

  • I reckon Niall McKeever will be in the side more than Maguire.

  • At of the Lions rookies who do you see getting a go in the seniors?

    • Personally I see Callum Bartlett then later in the season. Docherty and Longer. But from last year Polec and Lester were injured and still quite cheap and should see game time

  • Polks is picked first every week. Vossy’s pet.

  • Nice write-up hisko …. Zorko and the Brown Dog for me …Maybe Docherty if he’s fit for round 1 and Rockliff upgrade target

  • Great write up :)

    I’m locking in Docherty, Zorko, Leuey and Browny!

    I would lock in Rocky but I rate Swan, Mitchell and Ablett higher!

    I reckon the Mighty Lions could come anywhere between 8th and 13th this year, so we’ll take it as it comes.

    Here’s my shot at the Brisbane Lions team for round 1:

    FB: Hanley – Merrett – Patfull

    HB: Docherty – McKeever – Drummond

    C: Redden – Rockliff – Rich

    HF: Banfield – Brown – McGrath

    FF: Cornelius – Lisle – Zorko

    R: Leuenberger – Black – Raines

    I/C: Polkinghorne – Karnezis – Polec

    S: Lester

    E: Beams – Bartlett – Retzlaff

    • ahh crap….. left Adcock out!

      Here is a revised team:

      FB: Adcock – Merrett – Patfull

      HB: Hanley – McKeever – Drummond

      C: Redden – Rockliff – Rich

      HF: Banfield – Brown – McGrath

      FF: Cornelius – Lisle – Zorko

      R: Leuenberger – Black – Raines

      I/C: Polkinghorne – Karnezis – Docherty

      S: Lester

      E: Polec – Bartlett – Retzlaff

      So Damn Unlucky: Beams

  • on my watchlist are: Zorko, Brown, leunberger, polec, Hanley, doherty, rockliff, redden, rich, bartlett

  • Keeping an eye on Adcock, Zorko, Rocky, Berger, Brown and Docherty from the mighty lions.

    I’m also seeing a fair bit of Lisle in these best 22’s. If he manages to have good JS, what do you lads reckon his DT output would be? At $219k and a Round 11 bye he could slot nicely into my forward line.

    • Lisle may not score very well… May get bags of 3 or 4 at times… but will probs only average 60-70

  • I was going through our list and we have heaps of players with their careers on the line this season:

    Simon Black (My FAVE player of all time!! He’s an absolute LEGEND!! Unfortunately his contract says that he needs to perform highly in 2012 for his career to continue in 2013 ):

    Ben Hudson (Brought in to protect Longer for a year and then to become a ruck coach.. Enough Said)

    Amon Buchanan (Too old for someone who will hardly ever be in our best 22… Needs some outstanding performances to stay.)

    Matt Maguire (No longer needed.. Makes too many crucial mistakes.. Also getting old)

    Cheynee Stiller ( How is he almost on 100 games.. He isn’t good enough… Needs to play some solid games without crucial mistakes to keep his spot.

    Josh Drummond (Great player, who I love, but is very, very injury prone! Needs to play at least 15 games this season)

    Sam Sheldon (Needs some solid performances)

    James Hawksley (Needs some solid performances.)

    All of the rookies besides McKeever (3 or 4 of them have to be delisted at the end of the season, to make room for new rookies taken in the rookie draft…. All of them need to play solidly in the ressies and do the little things right if they get called up to the seniors

    15 players fighting for their careers…. Hopefully it will help us play finals this year

    P.S Really, really hope Blackie and Drummo are given contracts for 2013!!!!!!!