St Kilda Saints: Dream Team Preview

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Well… what can I say about the Saints that hasn’t been said in the last two years? There has been 3 Grand finals with zero wins, four if you want to count the pre-season loss to the dogs (I do not). There has been major delistings (Lovett) and the boys have had their junk put all over the news (Saint Nick’s junk is like the sun, you know you’re not supposed to look but you can’t help yourself). However throughout all this the Saints dream team points have not suffered.

This year is probably the last chance we will have at a flag so I wouldn’t expect to see too much new blood. One of the major upsides for the saints this year is when they have their byes, the first one is in round 4 that doesn’t count for your league so if that’s your aim it won’t hurt you and the Dogs and Brisbane have their byes at the same time and I can’t think of many players from either team I would want to pick except Fev I have heard he has had a quiet preseason and hasn’t even been on the piss once (LOL and sorry to the doggie supporters but you’re on the way out). The other bye is in round 14 and although it might hurt you in your league…its one round and nowhere near the finals so picking Sainters should not be a worry. The Saints also started training a little later than other clubs and could this help them over the extended season? I hope so! (I’ll cling to any little hope for a flag). Finally the great man himself is back, Robert Harvey is on the Saints coaching panel for this year and this means some of our softer players may have to harden up or he will belt them (Kozi, Nicky Dal im looking at you!).

Backs

Sam Fisher 2010 ave 85.2 (20 games)

I will honestly say I’m not sure with this guy this year, he does have the occasional game where he smashes out a massive score (143 against the pies anyone) but teams have also realised that if you let this man run free you lose. Also the Saints defence is crap, Zac Dawson is a joke and fisher will need to do more a defensive role in the future to back up these guys. Pretty reliable player.

Sam (why did he have naked photos of dudes anyway) Gilbert 2010 ave 93.2 (22 games)

My biggest mistake last year was not picking this guy, he went to a whole new level and is one of the premium marks in the AFL and can play any position however we love him taking big marks across half back as the third man up. He slays this role and the only thing that worries me is that he might get moved up forward which will hurt his points. He won’t be cheap but he will play in the backline as he is awesome at it, he is young, he fit and you must pick him.

Brendon Goddard 2010 ave 113.4 (21 games)

I was so happy when I heard he had dual position eligibility but it would not have mattered. He is a gun that mark in the first grand final was epic and reinforces the fact that he is a freak. Just pick him, don’t worry about where he will play as we need him in the midfield, don’t worry about the tag as he is too good for them anyway, don’t worry about injuries because he is tough and finally don’t worry about price as he is your walk up captain every week (Ill take bets he will outscore Swanny this year).

Mids

Ohhh…there is some juicy ones in here, maybe don’t pick them early and hope their prices drop, Saints do finish their byes at round 14 and they could be good for the run home.

Lenny (my boy) Hayes 2010 ave 108 (21 games)

He is tough, he is great to watch and he tackles like a champ. However Lenny is getting old, Lenny has just turned 31 and surely his best is behind him. Lenny is an out and out gun and will still average over 100 but there isn’t going to be a lot of improvement in him this year. People have been saying this for years now but there are probably better premiums floating around.

Leigh Montagna 2010 ave 112 (22 games)

Mr Reliable, has only missed 3 games in the last 5 years, he kicks goals, doesn’t get tagged and can pump out the really big scores. With Harvey coaching him (they are similar) I can only see him getting better and confirming his place as one of the best (if underrated) if under rated midfielders in the AFL. I still see a bit of improvement in this guy as he is only 27 and if he can fly under the radar like the last couple of years is a  great premium pick.

Nick Dal Santo 2010 ave 103 (21 games)

Missed 3 games in the last 7 years means he is reliable, however Nicky dal gets tagged. Every week they tag him because if they don’t he is one of the best kicks in the AFL. Also he is soft and very rarely tackles (and I think he talks a bit like a girl). The tag surely has to go to Goddard but I cant see Nick improving much, will probably stay the same and will be a good pickup after the byes.

Clint Jones 2010 ave 85.2 (20 games)

Don’t pick him but I wanted to bring him up as he is the best tagger in the AFL and needs some respect.

David Armitage 2010 ave 71 (9 games)

He was on the most hyped players last year but did nothing and got dropped. In 2009 he averaged 92 and is in the mould of Lenny Hayes. He is a bit of a Smokey and if he gets a shot this year or looks good in the preseason I will be jumping all over this guy. It is important to note that he is a little bit injury prone.

Rucks

Ben McEvoy 2010 ave 58.7 (16 games)

Ok ill say it first, Gardiner and King are past it and this guy is the future and the future is bright. He is only 22 and with another preseason under his belt he will develop nicely into a good ruckman this year. Won’t get you the 100 scores of Sandi but will make you a lot of money and will be one you can upgrade some time during the year. The saints simply have no choice they have to play this kid and develop him further.

Forwards

Nick Riewoldt 2010 ave 94.4 (11 games) does anyone else think he looks like Steve Smith?

When his hamstring tore against the pies last year I died a little on the inside. He was my captain that week but that didn’t even matter. Nick Riewoldt is a gun, he runs all day, is a great mark and if he starts kicking straight will get a couple of extra points. Saint Nick will easily average over 100 and if his hammy holds together will play the majority of games…just pick him.

Ryan Gamble 2010 ave 48 (2 games)

Our new recruit from Geelong, I haven’t seen a lot of him but if my mates who support Geelong are anything to go by (they probably aren’t) then this guy should have been playing for the Kitty’s for years. This guy will get a game at the saints and I hope he will perform. If he doesn’t who cares he is dirt cheap! I reckon we drop Milne and play this guy but either way he will be on my bench.

Justin Kozchitzke 2010 ave 57.2 (17 games)

This guy is a joke up forward, it’s not his position give up on it please Ross Lyon. A couple of years ago he averaged 90 in the ruck and that’s his position. He is dirt cheap but unless he plays in the ruck I would not even think about letting my enemies pick him as it is painful.

Adam Schneider 2010 ave 84 (21 games)

My smokey for a mid-pricer to shoot up in price to premium status. Played a little through the mids last year and with Gamble in the side might get more time there and across half back. Has got pace and that’s something the saints lack through the midfield so if you see a role change jump on.

Other players of note

James Gwilt (Bac) On the way up and could be a good choice.

Rhys Stanley (FWD) If they pick him and he plays well will be a gun.

Tom Lynch (FWD) Big tough Irish bloke, if he learns to play will be good.

Thanks for reading guys hope you enjoyed It and good luck for DT 2011.

57 Comments

  • Nice write up!

    Goddard, Montagna & Riewoldt are locked for me.

    Also it was Lovett with out the hyphen Murry who was delisted!

  • haha don’t think the Doggies on the way out jibe will go down to well. As a none supporter of either club, I think your both in the same boat. Think both teams might have given there best shot at it.
    Goddard and Riewoldt are my locks… but I’m sure I’m not alone there!! Might try upgrade to Montagna if he drops down in price.

    • I agree completely

      • St Kilda’s ‘window of opportunity’ has been closed or closing since 04 or 05 according to most people, as heartbreaking as the past two years were, I don’t think they really deserve to be written off just yet.

        • Nah certainly not writing them off, just think that there in a similar place 2 the doggies. Maybe slightly better off. Probably both finish top 6, just time will tell if they’ve got what it takes.

  • this isnt anything to do with st.k but wot do peeps think of leroy jetta, should get some time in the mid with jimmy hird as the new coach

  • Another good write up, too true about not wanting to see kozzi in even your enemies team.

    Nick riewoldts injury last year in a blessing in disguise for this year as he will average over 105 with a price of 94… delicious.
    Montagna will be one of my first upgrade targets this year. Goddard will be in everybodies team.. im not sure he will get more points than the monster swan though.

    • If Kozzie was fully fit, he has more to prove than probably any other player in the AFL. Played a lot of last year injured. Has the potential to average 90, plus has never played much in the ruck other than in desperation or sparingly anyway.

      Having said that, I won’t be taking those risks – but those who talk about Petrie or Hale or whoever as great cash cows but dismiss Kozzi have got it wrong as he (if injury free) will suprise a few people.

      BJ & Riewoldt a certainties, Hayes probably, will pick up Joey when his price drops and I’ll probably go with Sam Fisher.

      What about Dean Polo as a real roughie? Noticed he hasn’t been mentioned almost anywhere but is the type of player who would thrive under RL’s gameplan, I’ll be looking real closely at his NAB cup form.

      Youngsters not mentioned are Jack Steven (or Baby Swan) and Cripps (not f/s) is meant to get a game early on and is flying. Steven was one of those players caught out in NZ so that may have pushed him back a bit as we wont see him in the preseason now.

  • Given the byes this year and possible injuries – will choosing 3 premiums from the one team too much of a risk? Goddard, Montagna, Reiwodlt.

    • Nup, not with 3 on the bench and dpp.
      Most serious DTeams will have both Goddard & Riewoldt, with many of those having a Montagna/Hayes/Dalsanto/Boyd, 4 bye as well,) in their mids.

    • im going 4 haha

  • Roo, BJ & Joey locked!
    Will look to the other Stk premiums as upgrade targets after their 2nd bye.
    Good write-up.

  • Got- Riewoldt, Goddard, Montagna.

    And by saying Nick Voldt looks like Steve Smith is an outrage. He does not look like a cricketer who can’t bad, bowl or field. Go the Barmy Army!

  • Normally I go with Montagna but not going to get him for now, will probably upgrade to him later if Liam Anthony performs. Other than that, just the Roo and Goddard for me like everyone else.

    Nice write-up, mate. Just one question; how is Montagna a similar player to Robert Harvey? I would say they are pretty much the opposite type of midfielder.

    • I agree, nothing like Harvey, I mean, Dal Santo has more of Harvey’s evasiveness than Joey. Joey kicks heaps more goals than Harvey ever did. Plus Joey is a booming kick. Harvey was brilliant, but more noted for his ability to hit a target by the mm from about 20 to 35 metres away, not 60 like Joey can.

      Completely different players with the only similarity maybe being neither generally use product in their hair!

  • Don’t mean to be picky, but Tom Lynch is a first round draft pick from a couple of years ago (considered second best fwd in the 09 draft behind Jack Watts). Not to be confused with the Tom Lynch from Suns which I’m sure will happen.

    The Irishman is Tommy Walsh… who looks like he may get a game or two in the backline early on and could be anything.

  • Roo or Buddy? I feel with Buddy playing further up the ground and unleashed he could pump some really big scores. I also feel that Roo’s head isn’t in the right place at the moment.

    Thoughts???

    (I also have cyril)

    • His head and his hammy are my worries about him. Some players react to off field hassles by going out and focussing everything on their game every week and rip it up. Not sure if Riewoldt’s one of those players. His first half in the GF replay was quite possibly one of the worst halves from a captain in a GF that’s ever been played, and that after two consecutive GF s without a win! Does it take 3 consecutive GFs to motivate him? I’m a waiting.

      • i’d go riewoldt for sure, even if he wasnt cheaper

        • Thanks birdy, but I’m with marigoldman the fact he really should’ve stood up in the two grand finals, particularly the second coupled with his speech the other night and swearing at people and being involved in scuffles just tells me his head isn’t in it. I could get burnt but I definitely feel Franklin is the one I should go for. I feel that at the moment Riewoldt’s frame of mind is not a productive one. I’ll watch him over the NAB but definitely leaning towards buddy even with cyril in my forward line.

          • mate, riewoldt is an absolute star, fair enough he didnt perfrom strongly in the grandfinals but how many could with nathan brown and nick maxwell double teaming him all day? alot of work goes into stopping him every week but his work rate always breaks that and two bad games your sayen hes anything but a champion? dont pick him and you wont go near the car

    • Easy decision for you; I reckon you have to have both Buddy and Reiwoldt in your forward line. Both will pump big scores, especially early as they both have a lot to prove.

      • I don’t feel 100% confident with just one of them.I think you’re right thommo; I’m going to need both. Just gotta find the cash

  • Seems like I’m the odd one out, but I’m not making Riewoldt a definite pick in my team. I’m tempted to see how he goes the first 3 rounds then decide whether or not to pick him up after round 4.
    What do you think the spread of games will be between McEvoy and Stanley?

  • thanks for the comment guys!!

  • What impact will playing forward have on Gilbert’s DT output?
    Surely his score will drop if he’s not playing that ‘third man up’ role?

  • Oh and like it i didnt buy the prospectus lol

  • For a start you call yourself a supporter Pffft Tom Walsh not Tom Lynch is the Irish bloke plus you reckon Kossie is soft hes very hard at it i agree he had a shocking year but doesnt mean hes soft. Dont pick young blokes for the Saints cause Ross Lyon just will not play them pick guys like Mcevoy Gamble and Lock in the obvious Riewoldt and Goddard say no more

    • Lol yeah…..sorry about the walsh thing, and Kossie is soft lol

      • No hes not he attacks hard but hes a bit of a Dud at the moment

        • Kozzie was many things but soft is not one of them, in fact he was probably too hard at it last year at times and got caught out with his limbs flying everywhere. Pretty common fact around supporters that he was playing injured for most of last year, but imagine if he had gone down as well as Rooey… he played with injury all year – you call that soft??? I heard recently he has had complications with an ankle operation, which is not the preseason he wanted… if he was fit, he would be right up there in my calculations as a cash cow but with a cloud no thanks.

        • KOSSIE HAS THE SOFTEST COCK IN THE AFL (lloyd is retired)

  • no talk of jason gram? any reason why?

    • I didnt think he was overly fantasy relevant this year, dont know why but yeah should have included him.

      • I think you should have, especially if blokes like Grimes, Adcock, Petterd etc can be ‘fantasy relevant’. The bloke is only 27ish, two years ago played the game of his life in the granny against Geelong, considered by many to be best on ground that game. Anyway, that was supposed to be his breakout game.

        Last year he was crippled with injury, had hip/back/hammy issues from memory, affected his ability to kick with any real penetration or accuracy that we’d become somewhat accustomed to. Anyway, cut a long story short, he went backwards last year due to injury, but he is still young enough to have a serious DT impact and the saints backline love to junk it up with Gilbert/Gram/Fisher/Gwilt/BJ (when he is there) sharing it around.

        • I got burned on Jason Gram last year. I could see him improving on his 10′ season, but I would rather pay $34,000 more and get Conners.

    • Shhhh.

  • currently have gilbert, should i maybe swap him to broughton or enright??

  • great write up but no mention of gilbert? Whats everyones thoughts on him?

  • oh sorry, dont know what i was smoking haha

  • Poor old Armitage, everytime I saw him kick the ball last season, it was horrendous!

  • Great write-up and I’ll definitley put the big V on Goddard and when Swanny takes the bye for round 7, Goddard will be locked in as captain.

  • I think the questioning of Riewoldt’s mental state is a really interesting one. I personally think he is going to come out firing. I initially had Pav in my team but have decided to pay the extra 10k for Roo. Saints have been in a bit of denial off the field about outsiders trying to bring them down, when there doing a pretty stand up job on that from within. However it was good to see the fire in his eyes and the intensity in his words at the Saints AGM.
    In the past with the crying when he did his shoulder debuting as Captain and the swearing and hanging his head before his kick when the siren went and he needed to slot the goal to win.
    But for some reason I don’t think he is going to buckle to the mental pressure bought on from the off-field issues and I think he might just go nuts and avg well over 100 from the get go.

    ^Just a personal opinion. I’m sure many of you will disagree but thats all apart of the fun. Gotta go with your gut ;)

    • Pav would still be someone to think about, Freo seem to have afew injuries through the midfiled, depending on when some of them come back Mr Fix it might be used further up the ground early. I wouldnt get rid of Roo for him though.

  • off topic but doesn anyone know what the go is with the eliminator, like will it still count through the multi bye rounds

  • Good write up but i am MORE than willing to send you my email address and we can get this side wager on Goddard V Swan going. Swan is unbackable!

    Godard will finish top 5 but i reckon there will be a couple in front of him (Montagna, Selwood) and ofcourse Swan.

  • any thoughts on jason gram? champion year in 2009 but injury let him down in 2010